[Ag-eq] guide dogs

nfoster at extremezone.com nfoster at extremezone.com
Fri Oct 18 16:09:58 UTC 2013 

Jewel:

that's good advice.

Do you have many guide dog training programs in New Zealand?

Also what made you decide to train your own dog rather than getting one from a
guide dog school?

Nella
Quoting Jewel <jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>:

> Nella!  If you are getting a new dog, make your requirements, very clear, to
> the school e.g you need
> the dog to be able to adjust it walking speed at a command:  slow, normal or
> fast
> !  Take no bull from them!  It is, perfectly possible, though the trainers
> may tell you differently,
> for a dog to work, quite efficiently, at any speed, although you mnay have to
> take a little more
> care over maintaining your dog's focus when it is creeping along like an
> elderly and
> arthritically-challenged snail!
>
>           Jewel
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 1:52 AM
> To: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>; "Agricultural and Equestrean
> Division List"
> <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] guide dogs
>
> Tracy:
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> How terrible that the guide dog was hurt by a loose dog.  I don't know about
> Tucson, but there are a lot of loose dogs in Phoenix.  My last dog was
> attacked
> by one and fortunately wasn't badly hurt.
>
> My balance issues come and go; sometimes I have a couple of weeks without any
> problems.  I think it would be easier for a dog if it were a constant
> condition.  The same thing goes for my walking speed.  When I'm doing well
> I'm
> a very fast walker, but on bad days I'm slow.
>
> If I ever get another dog it will be some time in the future.  I retired my
> last
> guide about 6 years ago and am doing fine without one.  I also don't want to
> go
> away and stay at a school.  I'm not good with dorm living situations.  It's
> also hard to get away with my live stock, job and all.
>
> Nella
>
>
> Quoting Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>:
>
> > Hi Nella.
> > The NAGDU list, also on nfbnet, has a few owner-trainers on it.  There's
> > also a list for owner-trainers, I think, but I don't know where it is.  One
> > of the owner-trainers lives in Tucson.  She uses a wheelchair, and had
> > trouble finding a school that would train a dog for her, back when she
> > started.
> > Besides training her own guide dogs,  she has been working with another
> > blind person to train her dog. Sadly, that dog was just seriously injured
> by
> > a loose dog.
> > Also, Guide Dog Foundation in New York is making a bit of a specialty
> > training dogs for both guide and balance work.  A few of the NAGDU list
> > members have recently gotten dual-purpose dogs, and they seem happy.
> >
> > My black lab Ben is from The Seeing Eye.  He's a city boy, excellent with
> > crowds and traffic. I thought a guide dog in a rural setting might not have
> > much to do, but Fred's post makes me re-think that.  I see that I and my
> dog
> > are the ones leading the lazy life!
> > Tracy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] guide dogs
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Jody:
> > >
> > > I know you trained the dog you have now, but where did you get your first
> > > dog?
> > >
> > > Also did you get any help training Walker; are there organizations for
> > > self
> > > training or support groups.
> > >
> > > Now that I have the fibromyalgia, I often get dizzy and my balance is off
> > > some
> > > days.  I don't know if that would confuse a dog or if one could be
> trained
> > > to
> > > help with it.
> > >
> > > I recently adopted a beautiful GSD from our local Humane Society.  He is
> > > the
> > > sweetest, smartest and most calm 2 year old GSD that I've ever been
> > > around.  I
> > > find myself using him for support when we walk.  He probably has a great
> > > personality for a guide dog.  Mike thinks I should try and use him for a
> > > guide.
> > > I have no idea how to train for that and if I even want another guide.
> > >
> > > I have to say I don't like the added attention one gets from using a dog.
> > > I
> > > just want to go from one place to another without being harassed!  I know
> > > I'm a
> > > little anti social, but that's just me.
> > >
> > > Nella
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Jody W Ianuzzi <jody at thewhitehats.com>:
> > >
> > >> Hi Barb. I have low vision too. I used a cane for 30 years before
> getting
> > >> my
> > >> first guide dog 8 years ago. I can honestly say I wish I hadn't waited
> so
> > >> long. I would never go back to using a cane. The guide not makes
> mobility
> > >> so
> > >> much better but the way people react to you is dramatic, something I
> > >> hadn't
> > >> anticipated.
> > >>
> > >> There are 14 schools plus owner training open to you.
> > >>
> > >> Pilot and Leader are closer to you in Michigan and Ohio.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> JODY
> > >>
> > >> "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance!" Thomas Jefferson
> > >>
> > >> On Oct 16, 2013, at 1:17 PM, barbandzoe at comcast.net wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi, I am Barb and I haven't been on here in a long time.
> > >> > Sorry to see that someone is having their chickens killed, that would
> > >> > be
> > >> heart breaking.
> > >> >
> > >> > Why I am posting is,  I am legally blind and have a good amount of
> > >> > vision.
> > >> I have been told that I could maybe get a guide dog.  I am 52 and my
> > >> night
> > >> vision is not what it used to be.  Plus I have tripped over things and
> > >> landed
> > >> on my face.  My people at worked were so freaked out.
> > >> > I have looked at the Seeing Eye school, but I am not shure if I should
> > >> apply.  I want the dog to go to work with me, and to the gym, I would
> > >> have
> > >> someone to go on walks with, and just be there on the train and on the
> > >> walk
> > >> home.  I am not really afraid to walk home, but things are getting a bit
> > >> rough out there.   I live in Minnesota so once it gets cold I will have
> > >> to
> > >> find a different way to get the dog his workout. I know that with a big
> > >> dog
> > >> you need to walk them almost every day.  When it gets icy I get afraid
> to
> > >> walk myself, now I need to walk the dog.  but there are indoor options
> > >> when
> > >> needed.
> > >> > I do use my cane more and more mostly in the dark and in spaces I
> don't
> > >> know, your if there are a lot of steps.
> > >> >
> > >> > So I guess I was looking for anyone who has a dog and how they have
> > >> > change
> > >> your life. I want to make shure that I am doing this for the right
> > >> reasons
> > >> and not just so I can have a great dog with me wherever I go.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> > Barb
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
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