[Ag-eq] guide dogs

Fred's Win7 Catastrophe regenerative at earthlink.net
Sat Nov 2 16:40:23 UTC 2013


Hi Barb,
Guide Dogs are allowed everywhere, except 
hospital operating rooms.  You have no health 
department probolems to worry about.  You can 
train your dog to stay, parked for a very long 
time.  When young, you'll put the dog on tie-down.
You may want to have a crate, so your dog would 
have her or his own office, while you are working.
People are gonna love seeing a dog in there!
Fred

At 10:06 PM 11/1/2013, you wrote:
>Hi, barb here. Â  I have been looking into 
>getting a guide  dog, and I think I have found 
>the answers to almost all of my questions.  I 
>work in a health club, or gym, I do laundry and 
>locker room attendant.   My only real problem 
>I can see is where the dog will be when I am 
>working.  I don't need the dog to guide me 
>around my job site, he would go with me on 
>breaks to find lunch,  the rest of the time  
>he would be hanging out until I go home.  I 
>know people who work at desks can have to dog by 
>their desk or in the office or cubicle.  I 
>don't have a office or cubicle, I have a small 
>room with washers dryers and water 
>heaters.  Plus the towels for the club or 
>stored there.  I don't want the club to get in 
>trouble with the health department over my 
>dog.    so I am asking is do anyone out there 
>Has or had a guide dog and worked in a factory, 
>food service, or other place that wasn't an 
>office.  I just need to know what my rights are 
>and where the health department steps in.   I 
>don't want to get the dog and then find out my 
>dog is in some office on the other side of the 
>building locked up. Â  I want the dog to be 
>happy to. Â  thanks Barb ----- Original Message 
>----- From: nfoster at extremezone.com To: "Jewel" 
><jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>, "Agricultural and 
>Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org> 
>Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 10:41:10 PM 
>Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] guide dogs Jewl: That is 
>quite a story. Â Did you look for certain 
>characteristics in the dogs after Mitsy? Nella 
>Quoting Jewel <jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>: > 
>Nella! Â Having a population of only 5 million 
>with, as would be expected, a > similarly small 
>blind > community, New Zealand has only one 
>guide dog school, so we do not have a > choice: 
>Â it is "you takes > what you get, like it or 
>lump it!" > Now as for your question of why did 
>I decide to train my own dog? Â Thereby, > hangs 
>a tale and it is > not a short one! > I first 
>learned of guide dogs in the 1940s, when, at the 
>age of 7 years, Â I > lost my sight and was > 
>sent, grudginly, to the only school for blind 
>children: Â the New Zealand > Institute for the 
>Blind, > now, the Royal New Zealand Foundation 
>of the Blind (RNZFB): Â situated in > 
>Auckland. > One of our house mistresses, Miss 
>Whitehill, used to read us juniors stories > 
>before the dormitory > light was turned out, and 
>one of these was simply called "Pat" and was 
>about > a German Shepherd who > had been an 
>United States army dog and then, after the war, 
>he was trained as > a "Seeing Eye Dog": Â a > 
>genuine Seeing Eye guide dog! > As the story 
>went, it happened that the man with whom Pat was 
>partnered > turned out to be his army > handler 
>who had been blinded by a blow from a sword 
>weilded by a Japanese > soldier: Â no doubt, a > 
>descendant of the ancient order of Samurai! > 
>There had always been an instinctive attachment 
>between myself and dogs, so > this story, and 
>others, > set the pattern of my future life. > 
>My first assay into training, if it could be 
>called such, came when I was 16 > or 17. Â Mrs. 
>Campbell, > the matron of McCoy House, the 
>Foundation's residential hostels for young > 
>women: Â called the Foundry > by the irreverent 
>and the inmates were , * foundlings: Â had a dog 
>and she > agreed in those, > supposedly, 
>repressive times: Â times which I never found to 
>be in the least * > repressive: Â for me to > 
>take Peter with me up to Mt Hobson: Â a nearby 
>extinct/dormant volcano with > which Auckland 
>is, > richly, endowed: Â I think that, in all, 
>there are 35 ancient and not so > ancient, 
>volcanic cones on > which Auckland is built; Â 
>the last erruption was of Mt Rangatoto, an 
>island > volcano in the Hauraki > Gulf, just a 
>hop, step and jump from the main city area, and 
>that took place > a mere 600 years ago. > I had 
>formed an idea of what a guide dog harness 
>looked like so I > hand-stitched one with 
>leather > strapping from the crafts department 
>of Epsom Girls Grammar School, the state > 
>secondary school that > I attended. > To get to 
>Mt Hobson, Peter and I had to cross several 
>heavily-used streets > and make our way 
>through > Newmarket which was then, and still 
>is, a very busy suburb. > As it has been with 
>all the dogs I have trained: 8 I think: Â I 
>seemed to do > very little: Â I put the > 
>harness on the dog,and, really, from excursion 
>#1, he/she did the right > thing, with, the 
>occasional, > suggestive pointer from me! > The 
>end of 1959 hove into view when I was to leave 
>Auckland for good and > return to my parental 
>home > in Christchurch. > The concept of dogs 
>leading the blind was still in its infancy in 
>the > southern hemisphere, the first > guide dog 
>school having been established by an 
>englishwoman, Betty Bridge in > Perth West 
>Australia, > in, circa, the early 50s; Â by 
>1958, Betty Bridge's West Australian school 
>had > gone and had been > replaced by 2 schools 
>in Melbourne, Jack Davy Memorial: Â later to 
>become > Royal guide dogs of > Australia, and 
>the Lady Nell "Seeing Eye" Â dog school. Â Yes, 
>it really did > have "Seeing Eye" in its > name. 
>Â I asked Mrs. Gration, the blind owner and 
>director of training about > the inclusion of 
>Seeing > Eye and she told me that she had 
>permission from Morristown to use it, but > that 
>is why it is written > between quotation marks. 
>Â however, by 1959, there were still only a very 
>fiew > guide dog teams and > certainly there was 
>no thought, at that time, of New Zealanders 
>getting guide > dogs, but I was > determined, no 
>matter what it took, to have one! > It just so 
>happened that one of my schoolmates, Lynette 
>Simon, nee Brown, > had a friend, Mrs > Cashmore 
>who was very interested in the concept of guide 
>dogs, and Lynette > told her of my ambition. > 
>Mrs Cashmore had just acquired a German Shepherd 
>puppy bitch from a > secondhand car yard where 
>she > was supposed to be a guard dog, but 
>proving herself to be unsuited for that > job, 
>she was advertised > in  the newspaper as being 
>available to a new home. > Mr Cashmore was none 
>too pleased when his better half came home with 
>another > large dog as they > already had a 
>Labrador., so to keep the peace, Mrs Cashmore 
>offered Mitzi to > me to train as a guide > dog, 
>and from my position of knowing zilch to very 
>little about training dogs > to do anything, I 
>said > that she was perfect! > I returned to 
>Christchurch, told my, horrified, Â parents of 
>my plans, and > Mitzi joined me shortly > after 
>and the rest is history. Â Mitzi was a wonderful 
>guide and retired at > the age of 12 years. > in 
>brief: Â HAA HAA: there you have it! > Mitzi's 
>replacement in 1971 was the only school-trained 
>dog I have had. > My reason for training all my 
>dogs but Emma was because I knew that I could > 
>do it on my ear, and > make as good, and in my 
>exalted opinion, a far better job than NZ Guide 
>Dog > Services which was > founded in 1973. Â 
>New Zealanders had been able to go to and get 
>Australian > guide dogs since 1962 or > was it 
>4? I was offered the chance to get a dog from 
>Ausie, but I felt that > it would be disloyal 
>to > Mitzi, and I could not visualise how a 
>school-trained dog could be any better > than 
>she was! > >          Jewel  
>--------------------------------------------------  
> > From: <nfoster at extremezone.com> > Sent: 
>Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:09 AM > To: "Jewel" 
><jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>; "Agricultural and 
>Equestrean Division > List" > 
><ag-eq at nfbnet.org> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] guide 
>dogs > > > Jewel: > > that's good advice. > > Do 
>you have many guide dog training programs in New 
>Zealand? > > Also what made you decide to train 
>your own dog rather than getting one from > a > 
>guide dog school? > > Nella > Quoting Jewel 
><jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>: > > > Nella! Â If 
>you are getting a new dog, make your 
>requirements, very clear, > to > > the school 
>e.g. you need > > the dog to be able to adjust 
>it walking speed at a command: Â slow, normal > 
>or > > fast > > ! Â Take no bull from them! Â It 
>is, perfectly possible, though the trainers > > 
>may tell you differently, > > for a dog to work, 
>quite efficiently, at any speed, although you 
>mnay have > to > > take a little more > > care 
>over maintaining your dog's focus when it is 
>creeping along like an > > elderly and > > 
>arthritically-challenged snail! > > > > 
>Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Jewel > > 
>--------------------------------------------------  
> > > > 
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