[Ag-eq] FW: my garden
Nella Foster
jellybeanfarm at gmail.com
Wed Jun 15 22:25:02 UTC 2016
Tracy:
I think you're right that my oregano was to wet.
I was just reading about passion flower in an herb book, but now I can't
remember what it was good for. I need some herbs for memory. Lol
I've heard morning glory can be a real problem to get rid of; good luck
withit.
Nella
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Hi Nella.
Sounds great! I bet figs will do well down there, once they get started.
Maybe your oregano was in a damp place? They like it kinda dry, I've read.
The passionflower is a vine with a thick stem and lobed leaves, sort of like
maple leaves. It has flowers with flat petals and a big sort-of
cross-shaped center, hence the "passion". They're supposed to have a smell,
but I haven't really noticed one. But the flowers are interesting, and it's
supposed to set edible fruit. And I'm pretty sure it's a native plant,
which is always a good thing.
I am being overrun with this kind of wild morning glory. It doesn't even
have nice flowers, and it's jumping all over one side of my yard. It's easy
to pull out, but then it comes back. I remember my brother complaining
about wild morning glory, and I didn't understand why. Now I do.
Tracy
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Tracy:
I picked some more sugar peas this morning and several banana peppers. It
is getting really hot here, so don't know how much longer my cool weather
plants will make it.
My oregano died not sure why, all the other herbs are doing well. I've been
using the chive flowers like you suggested and they are very good.
My roses have already bloomed and my tiger lilies are blooming right now. I
planted some lilacs and little figs. One of the figs isn't looking so good,
don't know if he will make it. I also planted some day lilies and more
lavender. I love lavender.
I got some starts from my Moms snowball bush, but they died. People tell me
they are very hard to get started.
All my little fruit trees are looking pretty good. It will be so exciting
if I actually get some fruit in a few years.
What does the passion plant look like?
Nella
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Wow Nella, you're streaks ahead of me! I'm excited because my tomatoes have
a couple blossoms.
The rabbits or woodchuck or whatever did a number on my lettuce and
broccoli. I got a couple replacement broc seedlings, and now I have chicken
wire over them. We'll see how that goes. My big chard set lots of little
seedlings, so I'm good with chard. The beans are starting to come up.
The raspberries are ripe! And I even got a strawberry before the darn
squirrels chewed on it. The passionflower is leaping toward the sky. It
must have set seed last year, because I've pulled passionflower out of
various places. I'll have to pay more attention this year and try the
fruit.
And I've harvested quite a few garlic scapes--the wannabe flowers that are
very tasty.
And the oregano is taking over its corner and then some. It hurts me, but
I'll have to pull some out. Or just stomp oer it.
Tracy
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I accidently sent this to just Zac and not the whole list.
Sorry to bother you Zac.
Nella
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From: Nella Foster [mailto:jellybeanfarm at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:48 AM
To: 'Zach'
Subject: RE: [Ag-eq] my garden
I'm so excited I just picked the first banana pepper of the year.
I have little green tomatoes and tiny cucumbers. There are a couple of bell
peppers that will be ready soon.
I'm still getting spinach, lettuce and kale. I don't think it will last
much longer because it is starting to get really hot.
Oh, I'm also getting some sugar peas; they are so good.
What is happening in everyone elses gardens?
I hope everyone is well and having a good summer.
Nella
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From: Zach [mailto:zm290 at msstate.edu]
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 7:39 PM
To: 'Nella Foster'
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A quick google search tells me this:
Cow Goat
Vacume Pressure (in Hg) 12.5-15 10-14
Pulsation rate (cicles/minute) 44-60 follow manufacturer's
instructions
Pulsation Ratio 50:50-70:30 50:50-60:40
(milking:massage)
Source Cow: https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ds139 Source Goat:
http://goatkingdom.tripod.com/machine-milking-systems
So I guess my concerns were for nothing.
Zac
Zachary Mason
M.S. Student
Animal and Dairy Sciences
Mississippi State University
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Zach:
The pressure and pulse can be adjusted.
I'm still playing with that part to get it perfect. Fortunately Bonnie the
cow is very patient. The goats are not so patient.
I'm not sure how hard it is going to be to switch, between the 2. First I
milked Bonnie then she dried up. Now I'm milking the goats, but will be
milking Bonnie again very soon. I plan on milking goats first, then pouring
milk into another container and then milk Bonnie.
I'm sure it will take a few tries to get it all down. I spend more time
cleaning the machine than anything.
Nella
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From: Zach [mailto:zm290 at msstate.edu]
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I didn't know cows and goats had the same vacume pressure and pulsation
rate, or can your machine switch between the two?
Zachary Mason
M.S. Student
Animal and Dairy Sciences
Mississippi State University
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Jewel:
So good to talk with you again. I sure hope you will send out one of your
entertaining stories soon.
The milking machine I have has 4 separate cups and each cup has a switch so
it can be turned off or on. So when I milk the goats I turn off 2 of the
cups. I could actually milk 2 goats at a time, but it is easier to just get
1 in the barn and in place at a time. As you know goats can be quite
mischievous.
When I milk the cow I just have all 4 cups turned on. If 1 of Bonnie's
teats were injured or something I could have 3 cups turned on.
Bonnie's teats and the goats teats are about the same size. I do have 1 doe
who has very small teats and I had to order 2 smaller cups for her. I can
easily change out the cups, so it works very well. I believe you can order
larger cups for larger breeds of cows. Bonnie is a Jersey so rather small.
The goats all kidded in January and there were 5 boys and only 1 girl. I
have a couple of the boys sold already and am still advertising the rest. I
plan on keeping the 1 girl, she is very cute. She is a fawn color with
white spots; everyone says she looks like a fawn.
Bonnie is due to calf in a week or so and I'm watching her closely. I
have a big stall ready for her and all the supplies I think I might need.
She seems happy and healthy. This will be her 5th calf, so she should know
what she is doing.
So far I've been able to sell most of the milk. I've put fliers around town
and ads on craigslist. It seems that most of the customers are being
referred by other customers. If I don't sell all the milk I just make
cheese. I've also been making and selling goats milk soap. One of my
customers raises chickens for meat and eggs, she and I have been trading.
She goes to a local farmers market and will take the soap for me. I can
also put out cards at her booth. We are not allowed to sell raw milk at the
market.
This same woman is interested in buying the calf. They raise grass fed
beef. They want the calf if it is a bull to raise for market and if it is a
heifer they want her to add to their herd.
So far I'm happy with my little venture. I'm working out a few kinks as I
go along, but over all things are going very well.
I hope everyone else is good and I want updates on everyone.
Nella
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YIPPEE! It is great to have you back Nella! As you know, I have been
keeping a little abreast of what you are doing through a third party, but I
am interested in your cross species dual milking machine as I had,
previously, never heard of such a device.
There are a few things that I don't understand. As cows have 4 teats and
goats 2, do you have 2 clusters, one of 2 cups and the other of 4? or do
you have a 2-cup cluster and milk 2 teats on the cow and when the udder is
empty on that side, attach the cluster to the remaining 2, but I don't think
that this would be very efficient because once the milk starts to flow,
wouldn't the uncupped teats drip? or do you just use the 4 cup for both
having it resting on what is called, in New Zealand anyway, a claw? It
wouldn't do any favours for the goat's udder to have the unused part of the
cluster just dangling.
Via the third party mentioned above, you said that goats have much larger
teats than a cow! If this is correct, US bred goats and cows are opposite
to any that I have ever seen. Like so many other things, are southern
hemisphere goats and cows wicky-werka to their northern hemisphere cousins?
I am intrigued by your address: jelly bean farm! was this name your
creation or is that the name that the property came with?
Jewel
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Hello everyone this is Nella and I'm finally here again at last.
I've really missed hearing from you guys and look forward to finding out
what is going on.
I will write more and update everyone when I have more time.
Nella
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