[Ag-eq] Bonny

Sun Jul 3 00:30:41 UTC 2016

If she did in the hospital I wouldn't know. I never saw her do it at
any time in my presence. Nope, easy when working. As long as you can
secure a private quiet spot to pump, and have ice packs to keep the
milk cool all is well. A memory that sticks with me is when the
daycare called the office where I taught and said she thought my son
would run out of milk and could I send a bottle. Surprising to hear
that come over the intercom. Sure, was my answer and within about10
minutes I got my children settled and working with my assistants and
pumped a bottle. Plunked it down in front of our secretary and called
a trusted cabbie to bring it over. I'll never forget
that......priceless!

Like you, I know a few people who have opted to do both supplementing
with formla. They seem to manage fine and appear happy with their
choices.

A strange but disappointing occurrence is that I am a certified LLL
Leader and friends and family interested i breastfeeding NEVER do what
I advise even if they ask. Most times they will go ask someone else.
that i don't understand!
I never failed any of my moms whom I have counseled.

On 7/2/16, Nella Foster via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Jewel:
>
> I'm sure the colostrum wouldn't hurt you, but that sounds kind of gross to
> me!
>
> People tell me it looks quite different than the milk we drink.
>
> It would probably be good for us.
>
> Nella
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jewel via Ag-eq
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 6:35 PM
> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
> Cc: Jewel
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Bonny
>
> In England and, possibly, in parts of the US, one of the delicacies at
> calving time was a milk custard called "beastings".  This was made of
> excess
> colastrum.
>
>           Jewel
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Nella Foster via Ag-eq" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 10:16 AM
> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Nella Foster" <jellybeanfarm at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Bonny
>
> Did your sister at least feed the colostrum to her children?
>
> I've never had children, but breast feeding seems like it would be easier.
> You wouldn't have to deal with formula, bottles and washing them.  I know
> it
> could be hard if you were working.
>
> Any parents have knowledge on this topic?
>
> One of my friends really didn't have enough milk, so she breast fed and
> used
> bottles.  She thought breast feeding was a little easier.
>
> Nella
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Ledet
> via Ag-eq
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 4:01 PM
> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
> Cc: Danielle Ledet
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Bonny
>
> Yep it's just like us humans. Don't want to take off all the good stuff
> before the calf can get it. Sort of defeats the purpose. It also helps the
> calf to fight off diseases as well. And, mastitis is not fun for Mom. I
> personally do all I can to avoid it! Good luck with bonnie and her new
> calf.
>
> funny enough my sister just had a baby, and, me not having experienced
> this,
> I know what to do, but I asked her what she does to dry up her milk since
> she has opted not to breastfeed her children. Still never got an answer,
> though I am sure she is done by now since her milk just came in day after I
> asked her but she had already left. I never hear any non-BFers talk about
> this. I find it odd.
>
> On 7/2/16, Zach via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> There was a study done by a Cornell faculty that tried pre-parturition
>> milking of colostrum. It had some interesting implications but I can't
>> remember if it had to do with somatic cell or milk yield. Either way,
>> you're right.  For the calf's sake I wouldn't pre-milk colostrum. It
>> results in the thin colostrum you mentioned which will not get the
>> calf off to a good start.
>>
>> I would also be very careful about taking any small samples before
>> calving as that really increases the risk of exposure to mastitis
>> causing pathogens.
>>
>>
>> Did she get a dry-off therapy, or is this her first calf? My new
>> research project looks at milk quality on commercial dairy farms in
>> the southeast; so keep me up to date how things go and if you have
>> questions, I'll do my best or refer you to someone who knows. :)
>>
>>
>> Zac
>>
>> P.S. I've recently been referred to a blind high school student from
>> Virginia interested in careers in animal agriculture. If you're from
>> the state or near-by, and might be interested in advising,  please
>> give me a shout.
>>
>> Zachary Mason
>> M.S. Student
>> Animal and Dairy Sciences
>> Mississippi State University
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nella
>> Foster via Ag-eq
>> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 10:16 AM
>> To: 'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List' <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Nella Foster <jellybeanfarm at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Bonny
>>
>>
>> Jewel:
>>
>> I milk a drop or 2 out of her to see what it feels like.  Right before
>> birth the colostrum will be very thick and sticky.  As the young
>> animal nurses the milk gets thinner until it is regular milk.  When I
>> milk out a drop or 2 now it is thin and oily, so that means the
>> colostum is not fully formed.  If I start milking out larger amounts
>> she may not produce the thick sticky milk which is the most important
>> for the new born calf.
>>
>> This is how I understood the vets explanation.  He keeps some Jersey
>> cattle and tells me to leave her alone until she calves.  Then I'm to
>> let the calf have all it wants for the first few hours.  After that I
>> can start milking out the colostrum.  She will have more than just one
>> calf needs.  I will freeze the colostrum and am going to give it to
>> some
> friends with a ranch.
>> They can use it for any orphan calves or if a cow doesn't have enough
> milk.
>>
>> Nella
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jewel via
>> Ag-eq
>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 11:33 PM
>> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
>> Cc: Jewel
>> Subject: [Ag-eq] Bonny
>>
>> Unless Bonny is having the litter as I suggested she might have been!
>> if you were to milk off some colostrum to reduce the possibility of
>> mastitis , would she not have ample to feed one calf? after all, the
>> supply is not static but is being replaced for the first 3 days of the
>> calf's life before it becomes normal milk.
>>
>> Jewel
>>
>>
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