[Ag-eq] Westminster Dog Show

dogwood farm dogwoodfarm62 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 19 18:45:09 UTC 2018 

We really love these two old walker hounds.  Matt would really like to
have more of the walker hounds when these two pass, but I don't want
them as an inside dog.  Dover would come inside and frequently does,
uninvited, but Stout will not cross the threshold no matter what you
do.  The cabin is just too small for anything over 50 pounds.  The
cabin is only 34 by 24 and 2 stories, and with 3 adults living inside,
floor space is at a premium.  Also, there is a cat that has the run of
the house except for my bedroom and Matt's clock workshop.

We have had several people comment on Dover, he's the tri colored one,
telling us that he would really stand out with his personality and
coloring.  Matt tried to talk my cousin into putting Dover with his
female golden retreaver for a litter of pups, and you should have seen
the look on my cousin's face.  He hasn't brought the female over
since.  He wasn't taking the chance that Matt was serious.  lol  I
don't want to see the results of Dover's pups with any dog, because he
can be the silliest, goofyist dog there is.  He is the one who got his
head and mouth caught in a beaver trap and we thought we were going to
have to put him down.

Susan
dogwoodfarm62 at gmail.com

On 2/19/18, Nella Foster via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I love Walker Hounds.  When I was very young my Grandpa kept a pack of
> Walker Hounds for hunting and he gave me one that was to old to hunt.  I
> think I was about two when I got Spot.  He was my constant companion until
> I
> was six or so, when he died.  He didn't seem to mind his new job in life.
> I
> used to have tea parties with him and I like to cover him up with blankets
> and I drove my toy cars and trucks on him.  He was a very good natured old
> guy to put up with all my little girl games.
>
> My Mom said she would put me and Spot in the back yard and watch us through
> the kitchen window.  She said he followed me everywhere and didn't even
> seem
> to mind when I sat on him.  She said I talked to him constantly and he was
> always looking at me, like what's going to happen next. Lol
>
> Nella
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dogwood farm via
> Ag-eq
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:09 AM
> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
> Cc: dogwood farm
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Westminster Dog Show
>
> We have only purchased 1 purebred puppy and that was our dalmation for
> $350 back in 91.  Both of my problem dogs were purebred male dogs.  I have
> never gotten a dog from a shelter because 90% of our dogs have been strays
> that someone else has dumped, both puppies and adults.
> The current two outside dogs we have are two Tennessee walker hounds that
> had been dumped with two other hounds and never retreaved by hunters.  They
> were not missing hunting dogs, they were abandoned without collars.  No one
> hunts around here without proper hunting collars.
>
> Around here shelters require fenced in areas for dogs even if they are
> going
> to be inside dogs.  Having 60 achers and now 30 achers, we have never had
> the necessity for a fenced pen.  Although, I told Matt that we really
> should
> invest in an outside kennel area because the neighborhood is growing along
> with other animals and people these days don't want to have someone elses
> dog walk across their property.
> Better safe than sorry.
>
> Personally, I am not interested in show quality dogs.  I want a puppy to
> train, be no larger than 40 pounds, medium to short hair and won't eat
> small
> animals or people at my front door.  lol  I don't mind mixed dogs at all,
> but if I took Matt to a shelter, he would want to bring them all home.  He
> would see no difference between 1 or 10.  He is just craving another inside
> dog.  Our last one died 3 years ago.
>
> Susan
> dogwoodfarm62 at gmail.com
>
> On 2/17/18, Nella Foster via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I've never purchased a pure breed dog and probably never will since
>> there are thousands of nice dogs on death row.  However I've had
>> friends purchase from breeders and you do have to be careful when
>> selecting one.  Some of the breeders who primarily focus on showing
>> are rather careless when it comes to the temperament of the animal.
>> Breed shows are really nothing but beauty pageants for dogs. However,
>> there are people who breed and show for agility and such.
>>
>>   It's always fun to learn about and meet different dog breeds.
>>
>> Nella
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dogwood
>> farm via Ag-eq
>> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 9:26 PM
>> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
>> Cc: dogwood farm
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Westminster Dog Show
>>
>> Well, the one negative aspect Matt was really weighing carefully for
>> the collie and airdale was their high level of necessary activity.
>> Mainly because he will in about two weeks be working 12 hour days,
>> changing from 12 hour nights and where would he have time during his work
> week.
>> Matt
>> also was really thinking about the agility training and we certainly
>> have space for it and he can work on the sections one at a time for a
>> daily activity to keep them moving and thinking.  He's still leaning
>> more towards the britany spaniel.  The average cost according to AKC
>> records is around
>> $600 and can go as high as $32,000 which I am sure that is extremely
>> high show quality or even pups that have been sired from dogs that had
>> better won Westminster grand champion.  lol
>>
>> Susan
>> dogwoodfarm62 at gmail.com
>>
>> On 2/17/18, Nella Foster via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not a fan of any terrier.  I grew up with Airedales and they can
>>> be great dogs, but they can also be a lot of work.  I guess most any
>>> dog can be a lot of work.
>>>
>>> Hank is part terrier and that is why he is a demon dog. Lol
>>>
>>> Nella
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jewel via
>>> Ag-eq
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 6:41 PM
>>> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
>>> Cc: Jewel
>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Westminster Dog Show
>>>
>>> Unless Matt can provide heaps and heaps of mental and physical
>>> exercise for either of those breeds, I would advise against them.
>>> Both he and the dogs would go crazy:  the dogs with boredom and
>>> frustration, and he with their behaviour!  the collie charging around
>>> and around in circles rounding up any and everything, or the airedale
>>> destroying everything in sight.
>>> However, of the two, if he did go for an Airedale, and remember that
>>> they are very large terriers so need an enormous amount of exercise
>>> to keep them happy and out of mischief, he should enrol the dog for
>>> sports such as agility at which it would excel!
>>>
>>>           Jewel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "dogwood farm via Ag-eq" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org
>>>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 11:52 AM
>>> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "dogwood farm" <dogwoodfarm62 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Westminster Dog Show
>>>
>>> Matt's other choices were border collie and there are 4 breeders in
>>> Virginia and airdale terrier and there are also 4 breeders in
>>> Virginia.
>>>
>>> Susan
>>> dogwoodfarm62 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> On 2/17/18, Tracy Carcione via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Sounds nice.  I've never known a Brittany, but spaniels are supposed
>>>> to be lovely dogs.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> farm via Ag-eq
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 10:35 AM
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>>>> Cc: dogwood farm
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Westminster Dog Show
>>>>
>>>> Well, Matt narrowed his list down to 3, leaning mostly to the Britny
>>>> Spaniel.  The main thing is that the males are between 30 and 40
>>>> pounds and the females are 20 to 30 pounds.  Short haired with
>>>> feathering on back of legs with a short or stubby tail.  Also, there
>>>> are 6 AKC breeders in Virginia.
>>>>
>>>> The absolute must that has to be checked with the breeder is they
>>>> have to be screened for the blood dis order of hemophilia.  Males
>>>> suffer from it more, but females can be carriers.
>>>>
>>>> One thing that was stressed while watching the dog show was the
>>>> misconception that buying a mixed breed like those crossed with
>>>> poodles, does not filter out health problems in the other breeds.
>>>> All it does is increase the chance of disorders because now you have
>>>> added the possibilities of problems that the poodles are known for.
>>>>
>>>> Susan
>>>> dogwoodfarm62 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> On 2/17/18, Tracy Carcione via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> A couple years back, my brother bought one of those "designer"
>>>>> dogs, aka a mixed breed.  It is billed as a miniature golden, and
>>>>> is a golden mixed with some kind of spaniel to keep it
> small-medium-sized.
>>>>> Sounds like a nice idea to me.  And I bet she's adorable as
>>>>> all-get-out.  Just mentioning it.
>>>>> Full of curiosity as to what Matt fancies.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dogwood
>>>>> farm via Ag-eq
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 5:41 PM
>>>>> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
>>>>> Cc: dogwood farm
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Westminster Dog Show
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt was real interested in the agility compotition and I think
>>>>> that every other dog that went up, he'd say that was the dog he
>>>>> wanted.
>>>>> Just listening to him had me doubled over laughing.  He was like a
>>>>> kid in a candy shop!  He has widdled his dog list from 28 to 6.
>>>>> I'll let you know what his two final dogs to choose from will be.
>>>>> He is looking for something between a spaniel or a terrier, but the
>>>>> terriers don't do well with smaller animals.  So, we'll see what
>>>>> comes out in the wash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Susan
>>>>> dogwoodfarm62 at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/16/18, Tracy Carcione via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Wow Susan, congratulations to your cousin!
>>>>>> I watched the dogshow!  My mother was into showing.  Her breed was
>>>>>> Irish wolfhounds, and, later, she got a nice Brussells griffon.
>>>>>> We went to Westminster a couple times.  It was fun to meet
>>>>>> different dogs, but it was also really crowded.  Oh, and it was
>>>>>> fun to walk around the vendors, and see all the dog-related stuff.
>>>>>> Equipment, toys, treats, jewelry ... you name it, it was probably
>>>>>> there somewhere.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dogwood
>>>>>> farm via Ag-eq
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 7:54 PM
>>>>>> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
>>>>>> Cc: dogwood farm
>>>>>> Subject: [Ag-eq] Westminster Dog Show
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know if anyone on the list watched the dog show earlier
>>>>>> this week, but my husband and I did and now we are doing the happy
>> dance!
>>>>>> You ask
>>>>>>  why?  Well, I'll tell you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My cousin, Wes, breeds and shows Golden Retreavers and has done so
>>>>>> for quite a  while.  His two year old male, Decoy qualified to
>>>>>> participate in the Westminster dog show in New York, which
>>>>>> happened the first of this  week.
>>>>>> There were over 201 breeds represented and over 2,800 dogs and
>>>>>> representing all 50 states and 16 countries.  The Golden Retreaver
>>>>>> class had 52 dogs and Decoy won Reserve Grand Champion.  This
>>>>>> means he was the number 2 dog in all the AKC showings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt already has a list of breeds he is researching for another
>>>>>> inside
>>>>> dog.
>>>>>> Matt was texting Wes the entire time they were in New York.  I
>>>>>> told Wes that if Matt had gone with them, they would have had to
>>>>>> leave him in the room because he would have driven them crazy
>>>>>> wanting to be everywhere seeing/petting/hugging any dog he could
>>>>>> have gotten hold of.  .  Wes said there were so many people there
>>>>>> that they couldn't even get close to watch his class, so they
>>>>>> found someone who was sitting in the front row to film it for
>>>>>> them.  Decoy's handler was suppose to be a guy named David,
>>>>>> however, when they arrived and while unloading the cages, there
>>>>>> was greese on the floor and David slipped and face planted flat on
>>>>>> the floor.  He spent all of Monday in the emergency room because
>>>>>> they thought he tore his rotater
>>> cuff.
>>>>>> David's wife Jennifer, had to fly up from Georgia to show the
>>>>>> remaining 3 dogs.  He was showing/handleing 5 dogs in the two days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>> dogwoodfarm62 at gmail.com
>>>>>>
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