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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Patricia, I just finished reading the book "The
Female Brain" by Luann Brizendine, and OH, HOw I wish I had this wonderful
information a long time ago. Raising my brood of children would have been so
much easier if I had known these things about the differences between male and
female brains. And, my goodness, I would have been a much better teacher, too. I
would have a better understanding of my fellow human beings - but at least I do
understand a lot more about it now since reading this book. It was so
enlightening to me and I was telling my husband all about it as we would ride
along in the truck. One day he said to me, "I guess it is like this conversation
we are having right now in this truck." This was his insight as I was
rapidly sharing so much information as he sat quietly listening...lol I
said, "Yes, now I understand this conversation here in this truck so much
better." We laughed.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Of course we are both crafters and artists - one
feeds into the other. We all begin somewhere - and for me, it begins with my
mother taking an afternoon to teach me how to do some embroidery stitches and to
creat a picture on a linen tea towel - I was probably 8 years old. Then, it
continues on with my precious neighbor taking an hour each morning, one summer,
to teach me how to read a pattern and how to sew a blouse, skirt, and then an
entire outfit - I was about 10. We learn from those around us, and how lucky we
were to have them in our life. What I do today, is an homage to those women in
my life so long ago. I celebrate them with every stitch I make in my
art these days. And, I say "thank you" to them for giving me the beginnings of
who I am today, and who I am becoming with each new day and each new idea I work
with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Lynda</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4><A
href="http://www.amazon.com/Louann-Brizendine/e/B001H6RZB8/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1391798400&sr=1-1">http://www.amazon.com/Louann-Brizendine/e/B001H6RZB8/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1391798400&sr=1-1</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 07, 2014 1:26
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<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=4>Hooray for "outrageous and for all of you for
taking the time to articulate these distinctions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=4>I absolutely agree and have been an artist and
crafter simultaneously. I am back to my art and love the discovery of it-but I
will admit, my left brain does like rules and instructions-but my Girl Brain
is winning! (no put down to Boy Brains, just a family joke).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=4>Right on! Right on, Linda!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=4>pece out</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 07, 2014 11:44
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Well, this is an outrageous conversation, I
know. lol I better get back to the studio before I cause a riot,
but this should be a good place for a discussion like this.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>That is great, Ann! So true. There is really
not a fine line between the two, it is very clear and distinct. And artist
or a crafter can take the exact same materials, but the mind that works with
them is quite different and the results are quite different. It's really
about "ideas" and "concepts" and what we are thinking about as we work, and
where we go with the materials in our process of working. In
Pittsburgh, PA there is a very fine museum/gallery called the Society of
Contemporary Crafts - now, what is done there, and shown there is high art.
So there is crafts and there is CRAFT, too. There is the "crafter" and
there is the "Craftsman." very distinct differences between them - and
as a sculptor you would be very aware of this, too.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>I was so fortunate to teach in a small private
college (Geneva College, in western PA) where I was free to teach
across disciplines, as I have my MFA in painting/printmaking, and my MA in
English Literature. Because of this background, I was very marketable
for a good position. I was able to create multi-discipline courses -
alway a combination of literature and art, as well as studio courses in
painting, fiber arts, printmaking, drawing. It was a dream of a job, working
in interdisciplinary studies and doing so many projects with profs in other
disciplines. I was very active in conferences on interdisciplinary
studies. I created an European experience for art and literature
students and we lived in Austria every summer and then traveled to other
countries. I even had an art exhibition in Austria for my students every
summer. They worked so hard in the studio and out on location every
day, and at the end of the month they had a show - so much fun. I also
did this with Puerto Rico, and students came to PR with me each spring as
part of their course in Puerto Rico Culture - which I have continued to
visit every March even though I am now retired. It bacame how we spent our
spring time. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>OK, back to my studio where I am working my
tail off to get a piece done today! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Lynda</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Lynda, Nice answer to craft and art. If someone who is reading this
is still torn I wouldn't be surprised though since there are all sorts of
shades in the continuum. </DIV>
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<DIV>I was talking to my daughter and a friend one day. I went off on a
tangent tangling all sorts of events together rather randomly. They
started laughing and saying something akin to how do you make it from day
to day. And I said you guys are pilots and for you to be a good pilot you
know and follow rules. That is what they pay you for. I am an artist and I
am paid to break the rules. No one wants to hear from me if it has already
been done.</DIV>
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<DIV>What did you teach before you retired? Ann</DIV>
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Re: [Artists-making-art] arts or crafts new member<BR>From: "Lynda
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Fri, February 07, 2014 6:03 am<BR>To: "An exploration of art by and for
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Hi Laurie, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>So nice to see you here. I did not
start this group though, I am like you, I just came on to ask a question
about something I needed to know and was so glad to meet Ann who helped
me with my question. I am furiously working right now (oops, split
that infinitive!) getting work done for the opening of a two-person
exhibition at a museum - the show is called _Vision and Revision:
Two artists with limited sight, not limited vision_ It is my
pottery and mixed-media fiber works, and a legally blind painter. It
opens one month from today, and if I stop to think about what else has
to be done yet, I'll get nervous. So, I won't do that, but just will
keep on working on the details. The show will appear at two locations
this year and will have a video that plays in the gallery with the art
works, Braille labeling, and artist's talks. I will even be teaching in
the gallery one afternoon, for the Women in the Arts course at Geneva
College. That is where I taught when I was a professor of fine arts and
humanities, before I retired. I'll be lecturing on the historical
context of my work and where the ideas have come from when creating it.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>To make matters even more difficult, I am
scheduled to speak at a conference at Slippery Rock University of PA for
two sessions, the day before we hang our show. So, I have those
presentations to be working on every day now, too. I officially
retired from teaching 5 1/2 years ago, but I am still very much involved
in everything but being in the classroom.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Here is my response to the question you
have asked. The gap between an artist and a crafter is like crossing the
ocean, it is that wide. Some basic things may be similar between the
two, but most things are very far apart philisophically.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Both work with the hands, and both love
working with the hands and most have done it all their life.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Both love the materials, and the handling
of them, and the satisfaction of the finished product that comes out of
it. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>While the crafter will usually be satisfied
with beginning something and knowing where the end will be, the artist
begins with no notion of where the end will be or even if it will
be. the crafter has a clearly defined path to the finished
product. The artist has only some inklings of possible outcomes, but has
to find them as she works.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>The other very big thing I see as a
difference between them is that the crafter has 'rules" to follow and
seldom will ever deviate from those rules, as they are set in stone
in her mind. On the other hand, the mature artist has learned that
there are no rules at all. They may begin in the early stages by
learning techniques, but eventually with the years of working, the light
comes on in her brain when she discovers one day - she is free
of all rules when making art. Everything can be challenged, everything
can be changed, and everything is fair game, for the artist. Is there
any other profession in this world where there are no rules? It's the
most exhilerating feeling to know that there are absolutely no rules
whatsoever for me. Wow, makes me take a deep breath just to say it.
Free, free, free, at last! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Laurie, the biggest difference between art
and a craft is where the person eventually takes the techniques, I
think. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>A crafter seldom takes things to a
different level but is usually content to learn something then duplicate
it endlessly, then moves on to learn something else and does that again
with it. The artist can take crafts materials (which is what you and I
both do) and techniques, and then take them far beyond because they will
combine their techniques and materials with the imagination. If
you can teach it, it is usually a craft. If you cannot teach it, it is
normally art. Art can begin by learning some techniques, or using
craft materials, but then the person begins to ask the "what if"
questions, and takes lots of risks, failures, and bends in the road on
the way to it becoming a work of art. It is a "mind set" that is never
satisfied with just the learning of something new, but one that
constantly questions, experiments, and never knows where the "end" will
be, or even if it will be. A "crafter" will never understand what
I have just said and will most likely be huffing and puffing and angry
with it. An "artist" is standing and applauding what I have said.
It is that simple, and that complex. The artist thrives on change
and making new discoveries and each work leads to other querstions and
more change and more new discoveries. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>One can see the difference when you look at
work in types of environments. One will be setting at a craft show
with a table full of things that are basically all the same while the
other will have work on display in a gallery or museum. Each
has decided where they "fit" and each is very happy with where they are.
They are different animals, with different ideas, and different end
results and outcomes. Each one has decided their own path and each one
is comfortable with the decision she has made.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Lynda</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Lynda</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I’d like to introduce myself. I’m a blind person from wisconsin
who is a fledgling and budding beginner artist. my medium is beadwork.
I make pictures and tapestries out of tiny little seed beads
sewn together with thread. but most of my work is in making jewlry,
but I have always looked upon my beadwork as an art form. </DIV>
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<DIV>so, I have a basic question. What is the difference between an
art and a craft? I do believe that all crafts are forms of art
but are all arts considered crafts? Thanks linda and all of you for
getting this list going as it is something I’ve always dreamed of
seeing in our efforts to bring blind people together who love to both
create and appreciate the visual arts.
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