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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>Good morning,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>Linda, I am glad to be of some "help" in your
preparation!! I guess I needed a Job!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>The discussions have been intriguing...in the
sense that I am being reminded of things I already know. Everyone's input has
been fun!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>About drawing: APH has a tactile board for raised
line drawings/math assignments, etc. This is what I would put in the hands of a
blind child-the stylus can be used for lines and a type of "shading." And of
course, it would also be useful for a blind child to do the same thing as a
sighted child, as you mentioned: feel the object and draw it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>(OK, get ready, I digress a bit: This reminds me
of the work I have done as an Infant Massage Instructor-there are certain,
simple strokes that we teach the parents and the result is calming, of course
...well, unless said baby being massaged is done!... but one of the many
objectives of this massage stroke is "to help the infant to organize his/her
world." In this case:"These things are part of me...legs, arms...and this is me
here and that is someone else over there." At which point the baby realizes that
they are getting some undivided attention and they get all excited! And with a
blind child, especially, or the newly blinded, this art exercise in observing
one's world would be really helpful in sorting out, organizing and
internalizing. But it would be helpful for *anyone* to do, and for the same
reasons!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>I like that your intent is not to try to get
students to experience what life is like as a blind person!! It is just an art
play!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>OK...about drawing/sketching, I think that is as
essential as learning the basics of music before playing in an orchestra. As
much as we'd love to skip right over the practice sessions, that just is no
other way. And I do think that there are "work arounds" for blind artists of any
age who have never seen, to learn perspective and to share it. (Ann would know
lots about this). Because of my background in classical sketching with my mom, I
could branch out to design and suggest/gesture the images...like fashion design
and even like impressionistic painting. Reducing the "story" to the most
interesting lines/colors. (which will be different for each artist and
viewer).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>Best wishes-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>Patty</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=llambert@zoominternet.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 08, 2014 8:56
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Artists-making-art] drawing
the internal dialogue</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Patricia, you bring up the most fascinating
things. This is another one of those things that is so enjoyable to think
about. Drawing! We do not need sight to draw, I am absolutely sure of
that. In fact, in many of my drawing courses, I had students draw blindfolded.
They had to feel the objects, then return to the easel to do their drawings.
They could walk over to feel it as often as they liked during the process, but
they were not permitted to have a physical "look" at it with the eyes. The
drawings they made were astounding - so full of livingness and so magical. You
are making me remember those things that I had not thought of for a very long
time - and this is great for me because I am going to be a speaker at a
conference on disabilities and inclusion in March, and this is exactly what I
needed to be thinking about as I prep for that lecture. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>If anyone else has some examples of experiences
for me, that I could share with the audience, please let me know. I want
to really make my audience understand that blind people have the same passions
for art and art making as anyone else. We just have to learn adaptive ways of
working, but we can do it, and we love to do it and it brings us great
joy. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>yes, I used Drawing From the Right Side of the
Brain as a textbook for Drawing courses at the college! I also used "The
Natural Way to Draw" by Nicolaides. I have worked my way through both of
these books for years on end. Drawing is the core of everything we do as
artists and without a good foundation in drawing, it's difficult to move on -
it is the structure on which we build everything else no matter the medium we
work with. Drawing puts us in touch with the internal dialogue and we become
more aware and connected with the object we are drawing. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>The interesting thing about drawing, to me, has
always been that all children seem to know how to draw by instinct. How does
that "fit" in your experience, Patricia? I have never encountered a
child who did not know how to draw and make pictures - I have always thought
we are born with these abilities. I think a child born blind would have
this same inclination, if provided with the tools and opportunities early on,
but that is a guess on my part. I would love to know more about this by
someone who has had the experience as a very small child without sight.
Drawing is more, far more, than the thing that is left on the page after the
person has made it. It is a whole body experience - physical and spiritual
experience, in my experiences. So, it seems to me that no sight is
needed to make drawings. I like to say, about my own work, that the
"thing that is on display on the gallery wall is the residue left behind as I
was making art." It is not the art itself, it is the tracks that show I
was there. The art was what transpired within me as I worked on it and
the piece in the gallery is the evidence that I was there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>I have to say that without my extensive drawing
background, I would not be who I am today as a blind person. I have a small
amount of peripheral vision that is enough that I can detect movement. Those
movements are "gestures" and it is through the gestures around me that I
navigate the world and that I identify people and things. It is the essence of
everything - gesture. When I am making my art these days, it is because I am
accustomed to using gesture and can continue to do that without sight.
Touch is gesture, and that is how I understand what I touch. I feel it's
internal and external gesture.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>OH, that is so funny about your 5 year old's
comment about using his "girl brain." This is what I found so
fascinating when I was reading this book, that the entire structure of the
brain is very different in males and females. Each individual part of the
brain is different between the sexes - so it is a physical as well as
psychological difference. She explored many different nuances that really
helped me as a blind person as well, as I was reading. It gave me new insight
into different aspects we encounter due to sight loss. I would highly
recommend it to anyone who has interest in learning more about how the brain
functions, and it is explored in a way that a non-science person like me
coulnd understand and enjoy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>This is all certainly another aspect of
the discussion on difference between art and crafts thought process and
ways of "seeing." Lynda</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=pece03@gmail.com href="mailto:pece03@gmail.com">Patricia C.
Estes</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=artists-making-art@nfbnet.org
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blind persons</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 07, 2014 8:54
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Artists-making-art] arts
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>Linda, the brain is so fascinating-or is it
the mind?? My first real understanding of it (before I studied holistic
psychology and energy medicine) was when our youngest was caught doing
something or other that five year olds do, and he burst into tears and
managed to blurt out emphatically, "My girl brain made me do
it!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>Yes, Luke, I know what you mean! But he
didn't go to school, yet, and we didn't have a TV...I think he just
*knew*.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>Dr. Christian Northrop teaches about the
female brain, too. Her example is that she and her, then, husband were
flying somewhere and she noticed that she was reading "Enriching the
Mother/Daughter Relationship" and he was reading "How to get the most out of
your Band Saw."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>To bring art into this, I am sure you are
familiar with the book,"Drawing on the Right side of the Brain." Pretty
fascinating, if one has time to complicate one's life by experimenting with
drawing things upside down.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>Energetically, if you want to engage both
hemispheres, Brain Gym says to "think of an X." And to relax the mind, think
of two parallel lines.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>OK, I'm taking my parallel lines and heading
to bed,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>Patty</FONT></DIV>
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title=artists-making-art@nfbnet.org
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for blind persons</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 07, 2014 1:48
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Patricia, I just finished reading the book
"The Female Brain" by Luann Brizendine, and OH, HOw I wish I had this
wonderful information a long time ago. Raising my brood of children would
have been so much easier if I had known these things about the differences
between male and female brains. And, my goodness, I would have been a much
better teacher, too. I would have a better understanding of my fellow
human beings - but at least I do understand a lot more about it now since
reading this book. It was so enlightening to me and I was telling my
husband all about it as we would ride along in the truck. One day he said
to me, "I guess it is like this conversation we are having right now in
this truck." This was his insight as I was rapidly sharing so much
information as he sat quietly listening...lol I said, "Yes, now I
understand this conversation here in this truck so much better." We
laughed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Of course we are both crafters and artists -
one feeds into the other. We all begin somewhere - and for me, it begins
with my mother taking an afternoon to teach me how to do some embroidery
stitches and to creat a picture on a linen tea towel - I was probably 8
years old. Then, it continues on with my precious neighbor taking an hour
each morning, one summer, to teach me how to read a pattern and how to sew
a blouse, skirt, and then an entire outfit - I was about 10. We learn from
those around us, and how lucky we were to have them in our life. What I do
today, is an homage to those women in my life so long ago. I celebrate
them with every stitch I make in my art these days. And, I say
"thank you" to them for giving me the beginnings of who I am today, and
who I am becoming with each new day and each new idea I work
with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Lynda</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial><A
href="http://www.amazon.com/Louann-Brizendine/e/B001H6RZB8/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1391798400&sr=1-1">http://www.amazon.com/Louann-Brizendine/e/B001H6RZB8/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1391798400&sr=1-1</A></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=pece03@gmail.com href="mailto:pece03@gmail.com">Patricia C.
Estes</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=artists-making-art@nfbnet.org
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1:26 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>Hooray for "outrageous and for all of you
for taking the time to articulate these distinctions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>I absolutely agree and have been an
artist and crafter simultaneously. I am back to my art and love the
discovery of it-but I will admit, my left brain does like rules and
instructions-but my Girl Brain is winning! (no put down to Boy Brains,
just a family joke).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>Right on! Right on, Linda!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Georgia>pece out</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=llambert@zoominternet.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=artists-making-art@nfbnet.org
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11:44 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Well, this is an outrageous conversation,
I know. lol I better get back to the studio before I cause
a riot, but this should be a good place for a discussion like
this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>That is great, Ann! So true. There is
really not a fine line between the two, it is very clear and distinct.
And artist or a crafter can take the exact same materials, but the
mind that works with them is quite different and the results are quite
different. It's really about "ideas" and "concepts" and what we are
thinking about as we work, and where we go with the materials in our
process of working. In Pittsburgh, PA there is a very fine
museum/gallery called the Society of Contemporary Crafts - now, what
is done there, and shown there is high art. So there is crafts and
there is CRAFT, too. There is the "crafter" and there is the
"Craftsman." very distinct differences between them - and as a
sculptor you would be very aware of this, too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>I was so fortunate to teach in a small
private college (Geneva College, in western PA) where I was free
to teach across disciplines, as I have my MFA in painting/printmaking,
and my MA in English Literature. Because of this background, I
was very marketable for a good position. I was able to create
multi-discipline courses - alway a combination of literature and art,
as well as studio courses in painting, fiber arts, printmaking,
drawing. It was a dream of a job, working in interdisciplinary studies
and doing so many projects with profs in other disciplines. I
was very active in conferences on interdisciplinary studies.
I created an European experience for art and literature students
and we lived in Austria every summer and then traveled to other
countries. I even had an art exhibition in Austria for my students
every summer. They worked so hard in the studio and out on
location every day, and at the end of the month they had a show - so
much fun. I also did this with Puerto Rico, and students came to
PR with me each spring as part of their course in Puerto Rico Culture
- which I have continued to visit every March even though I am now
retired. It bacame how we spent our spring time. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>OK, back to my studio where I am working
my tail off to get a piece done today! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Lynda</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Lynda, Nice answer to craft and art. If someone who is reading
this is still torn I wouldn't be surprised though since there are
all sorts of shades in the continuum. </DIV>
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<DIV>I was talking to my daughter and a friend one day. I went off
on a tangent tangling all sorts of events together rather randomly.
They started laughing and saying something akin to how do you make
it from day to day. And I said you guys are pilots and for you to be
a good pilot you know and follow rules. That is what they pay you
for. I am an artist and I am paid to break the rules. No one wants
to hear from me if it has already been done.</DIV>
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<DIV>What did you teach before you retired? Ann</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Hi Laurie, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>So nice to see you here. I did
not start this group though, I am like you, I just came on to ask
a question about something I needed to know and was so glad to
meet Ann who helped me with my question. I am furiously
working right now (oops, split that infinitive!) getting work done
for the opening of a two-person exhibition at a museum - the show
is called _Vision and Revision: Two artists with limited
sight, not limited vision_ It is my pottery and mixed-media
fiber works, and a legally blind painter. It opens one month from
today, and if I stop to think about what else has to be done yet,
I'll get nervous. So, I won't do that, but just will keep on
working on the details. The show will appear at two locations this
year and will have a video that plays in the gallery with the art
works, Braille labeling, and artist's talks. I will even be
teaching in the gallery one afternoon, for the Women in the Arts
course at Geneva College. That is where I taught when I was a
professor of fine arts and humanities, before I retired. I'll be
lecturing on the historical context of my work and where the ideas
have come from when creating it. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>To make matters even more difficult,
I am scheduled to speak at a conference at Slippery Rock
University of PA for two sessions, the day before we hang our
show. So, I have those presentations to be working on every day
now, too. I officially retired from teaching 5 1/2 years
ago, but I am still very much involved in everything but being in
the classroom.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Here is my response to the question
you have asked. The gap between an artist and a crafter is like
crossing the ocean, it is that wide. Some basic things may be
similar between the two, but most things are very far apart
philisophically.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Both work with the hands, and both
love working with the hands and most have done it all their
life. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Both love the materials, and the
handling of them, and the satisfaction of the finished product
that comes out of it. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>While the crafter will usually be
satisfied with beginning something and knowing where the end will
be, the artist begins with no notion of where the end will be or
even if it will be. the crafter has a clearly defined path
to the finished product. The artist has only some inklings of
possible outcomes, but has to find them as she works.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>The other very big thing I see as a
difference between them is that the crafter has 'rules" to follow
and seldom will ever deviate from those rules, as they are set in
stone in her mind. On the other hand, the mature artist has
learned that there are no rules at all. They may begin in
the early stages by learning techniques, but eventually with the
years of working, the light comes on in her brain when she
discovers one day - she is free of all rules when making
art. Everything can be challenged, everything can be changed, and
everything is fair game, for the artist. Is there any other
profession in this world where there are no rules? It's the most
exhilerating feeling to know that there are absolutely no rules
whatsoever for me. Wow, makes me take a deep breath just to say
it. Free, free, free, at last! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Laurie, the biggest difference
between art and a craft is where the person eventually takes the
techniques, I think. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>A crafter seldom takes things to a
different level but is usually content to learn something then
duplicate it endlessly, then moves on to learn something else and
does that again with it. The artist can take crafts materials
(which is what you and I both do) and techniques, and then take
them far beyond because they will combine their techniques and
materials with the imagination. If you can teach it, it is
usually a craft. If you cannot teach it, it is normally art.
Art can begin by learning some techniques, or using craft
materials, but then the person begins to ask the "what if"
questions, and takes lots of risks, failures, and bends in the
road on the way to it becoming a work of art. It is a "mind set"
that is never satisfied with just the learning of something new,
but one that constantly questions, experiments, and never knows
where the "end" will be, or even if it will be. A "crafter"
will never understand what I have just said and will most likely
be huffing and puffing and angry with it. An "artist" is
standing and applauding what I have said. It is that simple, and
that complex. The artist thrives on change and making new
discoveries and each work leads to other querstions and more
change and more new discoveries. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>One can see the difference when you
look at work in types of environments. One will be setting
at a craft show with a table full of things that are basically all
the same while the other will have work on display in a
gallery or museum. Each has decided where they "fit" and
each is very happy with where they are. They are different
animals, with different ideas, and different end results and
outcomes. Each one has decided their own path and each one is
comfortable with the decision she has made.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Lynda</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Lynda</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I’d like to introduce myself. I’m a blind person from
wisconsin who is a fledgling and budding beginner artist. my
medium is beadwork. I make pictures and tapestries out of tiny
little seed beads sewn together with thread. but most of
my work is in making jewlry, but I have always looked upon my
beadwork as an art form. </DIV>
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<DIV>so, I have a basic question. What is the difference between
an art and a craft? I do believe that all crafts are forms of
art but are all arts considered crafts? Thanks linda and
all of you for getting this list going as it is something I’ve
always dreamed of seeing in our efforts to bring blind people
together who love to both create and appreciate the visual
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