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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Good afternoon Corn and everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I\u2019ll be interested to hear how this will work. Much would depend on whether or not you would need to take out a car loan to buy these vehicles or if Tesla itself will develop an owner-purchas program and will manage the financing itself. As long as the vehicle pays for itself including the financing this would be awesome! And the more cybercabs you can buy the more you\u2019ll make as long as there\u2019s no downtime and the vehicles pay for themselves. I watched that video last night and will want to follow developments in this space. Perhaps in time Waymo and Zoox will have similar programs. Our friends Samantha and her daughter Leila are all for such a program.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> We had an interesting discussion last Friday. Our cleaning lady Samantha\u2019s husband Moses Fernandez told Leila that he would buy her a car once she has a driver\u2019s license. This guy has been a poor excuse of a father and a spouse to his wife and their kids. Samantha or (Sam) as we call her has had difficulty finding ways to get Leila home from school. She is very protective of her and won\u2019t let her ride the school bus. During our conversation I suggested to her that perhaps when autonomous rideshare services launch or in the case of Waymo relaunch in the Alamo City. Her response was, \u201cWaymo! \u201cThat\u2019s right! \u201c With no driver there\u2019s no one to take advantage of her, I won\u2019t need to worry about something happening to her, and if these companies develop teen plans where parents can set boundaries as to where they can travel I\u2019m all for that!\u201dAutonomous rideshare is creating new opportunities for those wishing to become entrepreneurs and in time will make the roads safer and quieter for everyone! All the best.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Peter Donahue<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> AutonomousVehicles <autonomousvehicles-bounces@nfbnet.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cornelius Butler via AutonomousVehicles<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 6, 2026 5:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> autonomousvehicles@nfbnet.org<br><b>Cc:</b> Cornelius Butler <cornelius.butler@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> [AutonomousVehicles] Discussion about making money off Cyber Cab<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Everyone,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>One thing that Tesla plans to do is <span class=g8omxb><span style='border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>cell</span></span> the Cyber Cab and allow people to make money <span class=asgive><span style='border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>off</span></span> it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kim Java just did a new video that looks at it form this perspective where people can make money off their own Tesla Robo Taxi Service by putting their vehicle on the network.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Video and Summary are below.<o:p></o:p></p><p>YouTube Video:<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvjKDmiHtAo">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvjKDmiHtAo</a><o:p></o:p></p><p>Executive Overview<o:p></o:p></p><p>In this video, Kim Java travels to Austin, Texas, to evaluate the Tesla Cybercab from the perspective of a potential owner-operator and business investor.<o:p></o:p></p><p>The video explores whether Elon Musk\u2019s projection that a Cybercab could generate roughly $30,000 per year in gross revenue or profit could translate into a viable fleet business once platform fees, maintenance, cleaning, charging, insurance, and downtime are considered.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Key Highlights<o:p></o:p></p><ol start=1 type=1><li style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'>Cybercab Business Potential<o:p></o:p></li></ol><ul type=disc><li style='mso-list:l6 level1 lfo2'>Elon Musk has previously suggested that the Cybercab could cost less than $30,000 and operate for roughly 20 cents per mile.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l6 level1 lfo2'>Musk has also suggested that a Cybercab could generate approximately $30,000 per year.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l6 level1 lfo2'>If Tesla takes an estimated 30% platform fee, approximately $21,000 per vehicle would remain before expenses such as insurance, cleaning, charging, tires, and maintenance.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l6 level1 lfo2'>Based on more realistic operating assumptions, the video estimates that an owner could potentially need approximately 25 to 50 Cybercabs to generate $1 million per year in net earnings.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l6 level1 lfo2'>The ultimate profitability of a Cybercab fleet will depend heavily on vehicle utilization, operating costs, downtime, and Tesla\u2019s platform fees.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><ol start=2 type=1><li style='mso-list:l5 level1 lfo3'>Cybercab Design and Interior<o:p></o:p></li></ol><ul type=disc><li style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'>The Cybercab uses powered butterfly-style doors that open using an exterior button.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'>Proximity sensors can stop the doors if someone is standing too close.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'>The interior features large, durable synthetic seats designed to be easy to clean.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'>There is no steering wheel or pedals.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'>The vehicle does not appear to have lower ISOFIX/LATCH child-seat anchors, meaning child seats would need to be secured using the seat belt.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'>Interior radar can detect passenger occupancy and identify situations involving children or rear-facing child seats.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><ol start=3 type=1><li style='mso-list:l9 level1 lfo5'>Exterior, Cargo, and Technology<o:p></o:p></li></ol><ul type=disc><li style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6'>Interactive RGB headlights can help guide passengers toward their assigned Cybercab.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6'>The rear trunk provides approximately 20.2 cubic feet of cargo space and can accommodate roughly two to three medium-sized suitcases.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6'>The cargo area is designed with washable surfaces for easier fleet maintenance.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6'>A roof-mounted Starlink terminal provides continuous vehicle connectivity.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6'>The Cybercab is designed for wireless inductive charging.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6'>Aerodynamic wheel covers are used to improve efficiency.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6'>There is no front trunk, or frunk.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6'>The front section contains components such as wiring, HVAC equipment, and propulsion hardware.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6'>The video suggests the Cybercab may use a relatively small 40-50 kWh battery pack.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><ol start=4 type=1><li style='mso-list:l8 level1 lfo7'>Real-World Autonomous Ride<o:p></o:p></li></ol><ul type=disc><li style='mso-list:l10 level1 lfo8'>Kim Java rides in the Cybercab through live Austin traffic without a safety driver.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l10 level1 lfo8'>The vehicle merges onto highways and navigates normal traffic conditions autonomously.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l10 level1 lfo8'>During the ride, the Cybercab encounters construction zones, jersey barriers, rain, highway merges, and emergency vehicles.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l10 level1 lfo8'>Passengers do not have traditional driving controls.<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l10 level1 lfo8'>Emergency options include requesting that the vehicle pull over through the app or contacting Tesla remote support.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><ol start=5 type=1><li style='mso-list:l2 level1 lfo9'>Fleet Ownership Challenges<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p>Several major operating expenses remain uncertain and could significantly affect profitability, including:<o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li style='mso-list:l7 level1 lfo10'>Tire replacement<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l7 level1 lfo10'>Vehicle cleaning<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l7 level1 lfo10'>Insurance<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l7 level1 lfo10'>Charging costs<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l7 level1 lfo10'>Charging downtime<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l7 level1 lfo10'>Maintenance<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l7 level1 lfo10'>Vehicle depreciation<o:p></o:p></li><li style='mso-list:l7 level1 lfo10'>Tesla platform fees<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p>The video also raises the possibility that Tesla could impose fleet quality standards. Owners who fail to maintain acceptable cleanliness or vehicle condition could potentially lose access to the Tesla robotaxi network.<o:p></o:p></p><p>This would effectively make Cybercab ownership operate somewhat like a franchise, where Tesla controls the technology, platform, customer experience, and minimum operating standards.<o:p></o:p></p><ol start=6 type=1><li style='mso-list:l3 level1 lfo11'>Tesla Is Still Testing<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p>The video also shows Tesla development vehicles operating with steering wheels and safety drivers.<o:p></o:p></p><p>This suggests Tesla is continuing to collect data and validate the Cybercab platform even as fully driverless vehicles begin operating.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Bottom Line<o:p></o:p></p><p>The Cybercab could potentially create a new type of small fleet business in which individuals or companies purchase autonomous vehicles and place them on Tesla\u2019s robotaxi network.<o:p></o:p></p><p>However, the difference between an attractive business opportunity and a marginal one will depend on factors that Tesla has not yet fully disclosed, particularly platform fees, insurance, cleaning, maintenance, charging costs, vehicle utilization, and downtime.<o:p></o:p></p><p>The video concludes that building a $1 million-per-year Cybercab business may be possible, but it would likely require a substantial fleet rather than just a handful of vehicles.<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>