[Blind-Gov] Action Alert: Federal Employee ViewPoint SSurvey (FEVS) Accessibility Issues

Fri Jun 14 20:24:21 UTC 2024

Hi all:

I’m using JAWS 2022 and I was able to complete the survey using Edge.  In many instances there were a set of labeled buttons and underneath the same buttons without check boxes.  It was clunky for sure, but my survey is submitted.  Also using arrow keys was much more affective than using usual JAWS keystrokes that are designed to work with forms and editable areas.

Have a good weekend.

Andy

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Subject: Re: [Blind-Gov] Action Alert: Federal Employee ViewPoint SSurvey (FEVS) Accessibility Issues

If you read this resource, which is from all the way back in 2015, guideline 2.1.6 discusses making keyboard navigation  more efficient than sequential navigation, which I believe would be using tabs and/or arrows to navigate.

Additionally, guideline 2.2 asks for direct navigation and activation of page elements, which would be using keyboard navigation. Taken with 2.1.6, to me this indicates that to qualify as  accessible, developers have to make a page such that alphabet navigation through its elements works seamlessly. Of course I could be misinterpreting what “sequential navigation” means, but one could easily argue that the survey was neither accessible nor usable given the parts that required mouse navigation. 

I’m currently unable to take the survey myself because I’m waiting for my entry on duty date. Here’s the link.     https://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG20/#gl-direct-navigation-and-activation

—CXB

On Jun 14, 2024, at 14:06, Meleah Jensen via Blind-Gov <blind-gov at nfbnet.org <mailto:blind-gov at nfbnet.org> > wrote:

I was able to complete the survey save one section. However, it was super clunky and because of this I have filed a complaint with my agency, and will be filing with OPM on Monday.

Also, I am fully on board with calling on the access board to release an elevator standard. I stayed in a hotel earlier this week where you had to use your key card to operate the elevator. While this was doable it was very clunky and if you weren't able to do it fast enough you would go down before you could go up. you had to hold your key on a sensor hit the button at the same time. Not super blind friendly under the best of circumstances, but particularly even less so when you have your hands full. Most of the time there were other people in the elevator who I just got to push the button for me , but this is not always feasible and definitely not always desirable.  Ronza, I would be very interested in reading your resolution.

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On Jun 14, 2024, at 1:30 PM, Othman (She/her), Ronza (CMS/OEOCR) via Blind-Gov <blind-gov at nfbnet.org <mailto:blind-gov at nfbnet.org> > wrote:

Funny you should mention Access Board standards.  I actually submitted a resolution on elevators this year and am hoping NFB will make it a priority to urge Access Board to do something.

Ronza M. Othman (she/her/hers), Director, EEO Compliance Group, Office of Equal Opportunity and Civil Rights, Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services – 7500 Security Blvd, N3-22-16, Baltimore, MD 21244 - 410-786-3274 (o); 443-380-5044 (f)

CMS aspires to create: a culture that values and recognizes our employees’ unique identities and perspectives; an environment that provides all employees with equitable access to opportunities for growth and development; and a workforce that reflects the communities we serve. 

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Subject: RE: [Blind-Gov] Action Alert: Federal Employee ViewPoint SSurvey (FEVS) Accessibility Issues

I totally agree with this sentiment.  The WCAG technical criteria are adopted by 508 so that we have consistent design that is as accessible as possible.  An unlabeled button violates the technical criteria and is a violation even if the form is usable with a JAWS double twist backflip.

On Ronza’s observations about destination elevators below, we really need the Access Board to adopt a standard.  I’ve also noticed that some of these systems have a universal accessibility mode that creates a major delay with doors slowly opening and closing to allow wheelchair access and flashing lights for those who cannot hear.  Thus a blind person might greatly slow down everyone else in the elevator car and create a light show without need.  While well-meaning, there needs to be some serious thought about best practices for destination elevator accessible design.  An Access Board regulation on this point would be ideal.

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Subject: Re: [Blind-Gov] Action Alert: Federal Employee ViewPoint SSurvey (FEVS) Accessibility Issues

This is what we call technically accessible but functionally inaccessible.

I recently encountered an elevator with a touch screen keypad inside the car.  There is a single button you press for accessibility, which activates an audio menu.  It verbalizes all of the floors, and says, “Press the accessibility button when you hear your floor.  [30 second pause] For floors 1 – 10, press the accessibility button.  [30 second pause]  For floors 11 – 20, press the accessibility button. [30 second pause]  For floors 21 – 30, press the accessibility button. [30 second pause]  For floors 31 – 40, press the accessibility button.  [30 second pause].

So let’s say I’m going to floor 39.  I press the button when they read the 31 – 40 one.  Then, here’s what happened.

For floor 31, press the accessibility button. [30 second pause]  For floor 32, press the accessibility button. [30 second pause] and so on.

It took me 6 full minutes to get to floor 15.  Imagine if I was trying to go to 39 or 40.

Is it technically accessible?  Yes.  Is it functionally accessible?  Absolutely not.  It shouldn’t take 6 or 16 minutes to do something that it’d take a sighted person half a literal second to do.

Ronza M. Othman (she/her/hers), Director, EEO Compliance Group, Office of Equal Opportunity and Civil Rights, Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services – 7500 Security Blvd, N3-22-16, Baltimore, MD 21244 - 410-786-3274 (o); 443-380-5044 (f)

CMS aspires to create: a culture that values and recognizes our employees’ unique identities and perspectives; an environment that provides all employees with equitable access to opportunities for growth and development; and a workforce that reflects the communities we serve. 

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Subject: Re: [Blind-Gov] Action Alert: Federal Employee ViewPoint SSurvey (FEVS) Accessibility Issues

Wow, I just did not have any of these issues. I did happen to notice that after each question, there are radio buttons for the  choices, and then the choices such as strongly agree, agree,  neither agree or  disagree or agree were written out without buttons. While that is odd and one has to arrow  through it,  I did not find it inaccessible. My agency specific questions were choices with radio buttons just like the rest of the survey. I wonder then, since there have been issues among other agency employees if the tests/surveys differ drastically from agency to agency. 

Interesting for sure.

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Subject: Re: [Blind-Gov] Action Alert: Federal Employee ViewPoint SSurvey (FEVS) Accessibility Issues

Hi Folks,

In addition to Nathaniel’s issues as he described them, there are also some questions whose radio buttons are not associated with the text options, having been coded as separate items.  That means it appears to a screen reader user that there are two options for each item on the Lockard scale (very good, good, etc.).  In addition, several agencies have included specific questions at the end that are ranking and rating, which can only be answered by dragging and dropping using a mouse.  There is no way to answer these questions using keyboard commands.

I am using Jaws 2024 with the latest version of Chrome.  Just to be sure I wasn’t having a bad technology day, I asked OPM to reset and re-open my FEVS, and I experienced the same issues the second time around as well.  

Hope this helps.

Ronza M. Othman (she/her/hers), Director, EEO Compliance Group, Office of Equal Opportunity and Civil Rights, Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services – 7500 Security Blvd, N3-22-16, Baltimore, MD 21244 - 410-786-3274 (o); 443-380-5044 (f)

CMS aspires to create: a culture that values and recognizes our employees’ unique identities and perspectives; an environment that provides all employees with equitable access to opportunities for growth and development; and a workforce that reflects the communities we serve. 

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Subject: Re: [Blind-Gov] Action Alert: Federal Employee ViewPoint SSurvey (FEVS) Accessibility Issues

All,

I’ve found that the most noticeable issue with this year's FEVS is the consistency of the format of the forms with the questions and the form regarding demographics. For example, on one page with several questions a user of text-to-speech may be able to use a form control keystroke (letter "F") to move from one radial button to the next, but on another page the user must tab between questions and scroll down with the arrows to select an answer. On several of the pages that have the format requiring tabbing from one question to the next, the question is not readily read, and the user can easily lose her or his place to read questions (first, second, and third) before then tabbing through the first, second, and third question to select answers and remember the order of the questions. Also, on at least two pages the formatting can cause a screen reader to skip the last question unless the user goes backwards on the page to check. These were not problems in previous years.

As data points, both this year and last year (when there were no issues), I was using a Windows PC with JAWS 2023 and Crome. To help OPM fix this problem—if it can be motivated to, would:

--Kay: Please share which browser you used.

--Cody: Please share what browser and screen reader you were using.

Best,

Nathanael

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Subject: Re: [Blind-Gov] Action Alert: Federal Employee ViewPoint SSurvey (FEVS) Accessibility Issues

Hello All,

I also have completed the FEVS recently and found no accessibility issues.

Cody Greiser

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Subject: [Blind-Gov] Action Alert: Federal Employee ViewPoint SSurvey (FEVS) Accessibility Issues

Folks,

Several individuals have shared concerns about the 2024 Federal Employee Viewpoint Survey (FEVS) in terms of lack of accessibility and 508 compliance issues.  The National Association of Blind Government Employees is asking for your help:

1.	Please prioritize taking the FEVS as soon as you can (we understand most agencies are now in the open period, but some may be on a later schedule);
2.	Please note any accessibility or 508 challenges you experience;
3.	Please share those challenges with me via email to rothmanjd at gmail.com <mailto:rothmanjd at gmail.com> ;
4.	Please consider filing a 508 complaint with OPM and your employing agency (it’s helpful to file in both places).  You can file with OPM using the email address FEVS at OPM.gov <mailto:FEVS at OPM.gov> .

If you have questions, please don’t hesitate to reach out.

Regards,

Ronza

Ronza Othman, President

National Federation of the Blind of Maryland

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