[Blind-international-students] Blind-international-studentsDigest, Vol 4, Issue 3

Thu Oct 15 20:29:43 UTC 2009

I also strongly object to the tone of such warnings since the list is 
suppose to take in to account different points of view and I have to say 
that most software venders and electronic text distributers based in the 
United States are indeed commercially motivated and they mostly make a 
mockery of the needs of the visually challenged. While I am in favor of 
warning against illegal contents, I express some reservations against the 
general attitude of toning down peoples views and that's indeed 
undemocratic.

Vetri.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guido Corona" <guidoc at austin.rr.com>
To: "'Blind International Students Mailing List'" 
<blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] 
Blind-international-studentsDigest, Vol 4, Issue 3

> Dave, I recommend that the overseers of this discussion list tred lightly 
> on
> users, ;lest they resemble the censors of benighted authoritarian regimes
> uncharacteristic to the democratic system of this land.
>
> Specifically,
>
> 1. A gentle reminder that unrestricted utilization of torrent facilities
> may, under certain circumstances, violate the copyright acts of a number 
> of
> nation states may suffice.
>
> 2.  An equally gentle pointing out that the recent KNFB/NFB eText
> announcement is curiously vague and woefully devoid of usable content 
> would
> certainly be appropriate. However, the writer in this case is expressing a
> personal opinion on the matter of a public announcement, and threatening 
> him
> with disbarment/ostracization is in my modest and respectful opinion, out 
> of
> order.
>
> Best regards,
>
> G.
>
>
> Guido D. Corona
> Email: guidoc at austin.rr.com
> Cell: (512) 466-1322
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> David
> Andrews
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:00 PM
> To: darocho at earthlink.net; Blind International Students Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] Blind-international-students
> Digest, Vol 4, Issue 3
>
> How do you know what this book deal will be.  All we have seen so far is a
> couple press releases, and it is not appropriate for you to make 
> accusations
> based on that.  Further, if you continue to promote "Torrents" and other
> illegal activities on this list you will be banned from the list.
>
> David Andrews, List Owner
>
> At 01:01 PM 10/15/2009, you wrote:
>>The significance of the announcement of NFB regarding the KNFB reader's
>>partnership with Baker, et al, can be summed up in one word: "Commercial."
>>Far from putting access to digital books closer to the average blind
>>user, it means that books in digital format will be out of the reach of
>>most blind consumers, who cannot afford the prices charged by online media
> vendors.
>>Fortunately for us, those books are still to be found on many torrent
>>sites, free of charge.  I imagine NFB will get its cut of the pie, but,
>>if previous experice is a guide, such ventures won't be very
>>profitable.  Even among sighted consumers, the digital media enterprises
> are not earning their keep.
>>
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>>Today's Topics:
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>>    1. National Federation of the Blind Applauds Partnership Between
>>       K-NFB Reading Technology and Baker & Taylor (Freeh,       Jessica)
>>    2. My Introduction (surendra KUMAR GUPTA)
>>    3. Re: My Introduction (Hina)
>>    4. Re: My Introduction (Aziza C)
>>
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>>Message: 1
>>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:14:10 -0500
>>From: "Freeh,   Jessica" <JFreeh at nfb.org> (by way of David Andrews
>>         <dandrews at visi.com>)
>>Subject: [Blind-international-students] National Federation of the
>>         Blind Applauds Partnership Between K-NFB Reading Technology and
> Baker
>>         & Taylor
>>To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
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>>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>
>>
>>
>>CONTACT:
>>
>>Chris Danielsen
>>
>>Director of Public Relations
>>
>>National Federation of the Blind
>>
>>(410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>>
>>(410) 262-1281 (Cell)
>>
>><mailto:cdanielsen at nfb.org>cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>National Federation of the Blind Applauds Partnership Between K-NFB
>>Reading Technology and Baker & Taylor
>>
>>
>>
>>Historic Partnership Will Make Millions of Books
>>   Available for Purchase by the Blind
>>
>>
>>
>>Baltimore, Maryland (October 14, 2009): The National Federation of the
>>Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to information by the
>>blind, today applauds the historic partnership between K-NFB Reading
>>Technology, Inc., the world-renowned pioneer in reading technologies,
>>and Baker & Taylor, Inc., the world's largest distributor of physical
>>and digital books and entertainment products.  This five-year
>>partnership will use K-NFB Reading Technology's soon-to-be-released
>>electronic book reader to deliver the highest-quality digital book
>>content to tens of millions of readers worldwide and harness Baker &
>>Taylor's market leadership and relationships with 44,000 publishers and
>>major book retailers in more than 120 countries.
>>
>>
>>
>>Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind,
>>said: "We are thrilled that Baker & Taylor has joined forces with K-NFB
>>Reading Technology.  This partnership, using pioneering e-book
>>technology, will provide blind and other print-disabled people
>>heretofore unprecedented access to the printed word.  Until now, the
>>traditional consumer book market has been largely closed to the blind,
>>leaving us with limited access to information.  Blind students are
>>often left behind in coursework, unable to obtain books at the same
>>time as their sighted peers.  With this groundbreaking new partnership,
>>for the first time in history, commercial access to millions of books
>>is about to become a reality for all blind people."
>>
>>
>>
>>Ray Kurzweil, CEO of K-NFB Reading Technology, said: "This dynamic
>>partnership will further my work of more than three decades with the
>>National Federation of the Blind to make the printed word easily
>>accessible to the blind.  With our growing repository of e-content,
>>Baker & Taylor's market leadership, and our innovative book technology,
>>blind people will have millions of books literally at their fingertips.
>>We expect this collaboration to revolutionize communication of
>>knowledge throughout the world."
>>
>>
>>
>>Under the broad partnership with Baker & Taylor, K-NFB Reading
>>Technology's new e-reader with cutting-edge 3-D technology will present
>>content in formats accessible to the blind and others with diverse
>>reading needs, and will operate seamlessly on a variety of electronic
>>devices, including personal computers, smart phones, and cell phones.
>>
>>
>>
>>K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., is a joint venture between Kurzweil
>>Technologies, Inc., an innovator and pioneer in reading technologies
>>and the creator of the first print-to-speech reading machine for the
>>blind, and the National Federation of the Blind, the largest, most
>>influential membership organization of blind people in the United States.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>###
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>About the National Federation of the Blind
>>
>>
>>
>>With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is
>>the largest and most influential membership organization of blind
>>people in the United States.  The NFB improves blind people's lives
>>through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs
>>encouraging independence and self-confidence.  It is the leading force
>>in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind.  In
>>January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind
>>Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the
>>United States for the blind led by the blind.
>>
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>>Message: 2
>>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:10:28 +0530
>>From: surendra KUMAR GUPTA <skg.dhanbad at gmail.com>
>>Subject: [Blind-international-students] My Introduction
>>To: Blind-international-students at nfbnet.org
>>Message-ID:
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>>Hi all,
>>
>>I'm Surendra Gupta from India. I joined the list today only. I'm a
>>stone blind and doing my major in English Literature from Delhi
>>university.
>>
>>--
>>Surendra Gupta
>>
>>Cell No.: 0-9818974982
>>
>>Skype ID: surendrathegreat24
>>
>>A man without knowlege is like a beast in the field
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>Message: 3
>>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:21:25 -0500
>>From: Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
>>Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] My Introduction
>>To: Blind International Students Mailing List
>>         <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>Message-ID: <115AF5B60CDE4EF9848A604F1493CFCA at DB8D43F1>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>         reply-type=original
>>
>>hi Surendra Gupta
>>,
>>welcome to this list. i am hina altaf, the moderator of this list. I am
>>studying computer science in USA. I hope you will benefit from this
>>list and contribute yourself as well as make new friends.
>>hina.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "surendra KUMAR GUPTA" <skg.dhanbad at gmail.com>
>>To: <Blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:40 AM
>>Subject: [Blind-international-students] My Introduction
>>
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I'm Surendra Gupta from India. I joined the list today only. I'm a
>>stone blind and doing my major in English Literature from Delhi
>>university.
>>
>>--
>>Surendra Gupta
>>
>>Cell No.: 0-9818974982
>>
>>Skype ID: surendrathegreat24
>>
>>A man without knowlege is like a beast in the field
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>>Message: 4
>>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:20:04 -0700
>>From: Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] My Introduction
>>To: Blind International Students Mailing List
>>         <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>Message-ID:
>>         <632092010910150920i58c26165l59157ef6c3c5437 at mail.gmail.com>
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>>Hi all,
>>I joined this list a little while ago, but hadn't seen much traffic on
>>it until now. So, I will follow your lead and take the time to
>>introduce myself. My name is Aziza. I'm from California, and am
>>studying psychology in my home state. I have been trying to find out
>>the best ways to build relationships with other blind students from
>>other countries and assist them to be able to get the materials and
>>resources that are available in the USA. I am currently working with a
>>six year old from El Salvador. I have sent her some of my own materials
>>and sent her grandmother, her primary caretaker, information on how to
>>raise a blind child.
>>
>>I'm hoping I can get some ideas of how to continue wtih my projects
>>from this list.
>>
>>Thank you.
>>Aziza Cano
>>California Association of Blind Students Secretary Young Energetic
>>Students Supporting Independence, President
>>
>>On 10/15/09, Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu> wrote:
>> > hi Surendra Gupta
>> > ,
>> > welcome to this list. i am hina altaf, the moderator of this list. I
>> > am studying computer science in USA. I hope you will benefit from
>> > this list
>>and
>> > contribute yourself as well as make new friends.
>> > hina.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "surendra KUMAR GUPTA" <skg.dhanbad at gmail.com>
>> > To: <Blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:40 AM
>> > Subject: [Blind-international-students] My Introduction
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I'm Surendra Gupta from India. I joined the list today only. I'm a
>> > stone blind and doing my major in English Literature from Delhi
>> > university.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Surendra Gupta
>> >
>> > Cell No.: 0-9818974982
>> >
>> > Skype ID: surendrathegreat24
>> >
>> > A man without knowlege is like a beast in the field
>> >
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