[Blind-international-students] Blind-international-studentsDigest, Vol 4, Issue 3

Guido Corona guidoc at austin.rr.com
Fri Oct 16 19:08:31 UTC 2009 

Fair enough Dave, I concur.

All, we should consider that often the public regretably misinterprets
anything we as individual private citizens write on an NFB-sponsored list as
an automatic NFB opinion.  While such misattributions are risible,  it has
happened before, in relatively recent times, from quarters that should be
more sophisticated than this.

As such, I do recommend to all and sundry that we use here language which
will not cause our Federation undue embarrassment, whilst always expressing
freely our views on matters that we are passionate about.

Regards,

G.
 
G.
 


Guido D. Corona
Email: guidoc at austin.rr.com
Cell: (512) 466-1322

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
Andrews
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 1:50 PM
To: Blind International Students Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
Blind-international-studentsDigest, Vol 4, Issue 3

I want and hope the list will be a place where different views can and are
expressed.  Nevertheless, that doesn't justify promoting a potentially
illegal activity.  As the person responsible for this and other lists, I can
not have myself, the nfbnet.org domain, or the NFB placed in the position of
promoting potentially illegal activities.

People can say what they want -- I think we just need to be a little more
careful with our wording.

Yes, U.S. book sellers may be primarily interested in money, but that
doesn't justify breaking the law.

David Andrews, List Owner



At 03:29 PM 10/15/2009, you wrote:
>I also strongly object to the tone of such warnings since the list is 
>suppose to take in to account different points of view and I have to 
>say that most software venders and electronic text distributers based 
>in the United States are indeed commercially motivated and they mostly 
>make a mockery of the needs of the visually challenged.
>While I am in favor of warning against illegal contents, I express some 
>reservations against the general attitude of toning down peoples views 
>and that's indeed undemocratic.
>
>Vetri.
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Guido Corona" 
><guidoc at austin.rr.com>
>To: "'Blind International Students Mailing List'" 
><blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] 
>Blind-international-studentsDigest, Vol 4, Issue 3
>
>
>>Dave, I recommend that the overseers of this discussion list tred 
>>lightly on users, ;lest they resemble the censors of benighted 
>>authoritarian regimes uncharacteristic to the democratic system of this
land.
>>
>>Specifically,
>>
>>1. A gentle reminder that unrestricted utilization of torrent 
>>facilities may, under certain circumstances, violate the copyright 
>>acts of a number of nation states may suffice.
>>
>>2.  An equally gentle pointing out that the recent KNFB/NFB eText 
>>announcement is curiously vague and woefully devoid of usable content 
>>would certainly be appropriate. However, the writer in this case is 
>>expressing a personal opinion on the matter of a public announcement, 
>>and threatening him with disbarment/ostracization is in my modest and 
>>respectful opinion, out of order.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>G.
>>
>>
>>Guido D. Corona
>>Email: guidoc at austin.rr.com
>>Cell: (512) 466-1322
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>David Andrews
>>Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:00 PM
>>To: darocho at earthlink.net; Blind International Students Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] 
>>Blind-international-students Digest, Vol 4, Issue 3
>>
>>How do you know what this book deal will be.  All we have seen so far 
>>is a couple press releases, and it is not appropriate for you to make 
>>accusations based on that.  Further, if you continue to promote 
>>"Torrents" and other illegal activities on this list you will be banned
from the list.
>>
>>David Andrews, List Owner
>>
>>At 01:01 PM 10/15/2009, you wrote:
>>>The significance of the announcement of NFB regarding the KNFB 
>>>reader's partnership with Baker, et al, can be summed up in one word:
"Commercial."
>>>Far from putting access to digital books closer to the average blind 
>>>user, it means that books in digital format will be out of the reach 
>>>of most blind consumers, who cannot afford the prices charged by 
>>>online media
>>vendors.
>>>Fortunately for us, those books are still to be found on many torrent 
>>>sites, free of charge.  I imagine NFB will get its cut of the pie, 
>>>but, if previous experice is a guide, such ventures won't be very 
>>>profitable.  Even among sighted consumers, the digital media 
>>>enterprises
>>are not earning their keep.
>>>
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>>>Today's Topics:
>>>
>>>    1. National Federation of the Blind Applauds Partnership Between
>>>       K-NFB Reading Technology and Baker & Taylor (Freeh,       Jessica)
>>>    2. My Introduction (surendra KUMAR GUPTA)
>>>    3. Re: My Introduction (Hina)
>>>    4. Re: My Introduction (Aziza C)
>>>
>>>
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>
>>>Message: 1
>>>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:14:10 -0500
>>>From: "Freeh,   Jessica" <JFreeh at nfb.org> (by way of David Andrews
>>>         <dandrews at visi.com>)
>>>Subject: [Blind-international-students] National Federation of the
>>>         Blind Applauds Partnership Between K-NFB Reading Technology 
>>>and
>>Baker
>>>         & Taylor
>>>To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>>>Message-ID: <auto-000121760091 at mailfront1.g2host.com>
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"
>>>
>>>
>>>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>CONTACT:
>>>
>>>Chris Danielsen
>>>
>>>Director of Public Relations
>>>
>>>National Federation of the Blind
>>>
>>>(410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>>>
>>>(410) 262-1281 (Cell)
>>>
>>><mailto:cdanielsen at nfb.org>cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>National Federation of the Blind Applauds Partnership Between K-NFB 
>>>Reading Technology and Baker & Taylor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Historic Partnership Will Make Millions of Books
>>>   Available for Purchase by the Blind
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Baltimore, Maryland (October 14, 2009): The National Federation of 
>>>the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to information by 
>>>the blind, today applauds the historic partnership between K-NFB 
>>>Reading Technology, Inc., the world-renowned pioneer in reading 
>>>technologies, and Baker & Taylor, Inc., the world's largest 
>>>distributor of physical and digital books and entertainment products.  
>>>This five-year partnership will use K-NFB Reading Technology's 
>>>soon-to-be-released electronic book reader to deliver the 
>>>highest-quality digital book content to tens of millions of readers 
>>>worldwide and harness Baker & Taylor's market leadership and 
>>>relationships with 44,000 publishers and major book retailers in more
than 120 countries.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind,
>>>said: "We are thrilled that Baker & Taylor has joined forces with 
>>>K-NFB Reading Technology.  This partnership, using pioneering e-book 
>>>technology, will provide blind and other print-disabled people 
>>>heretofore unprecedented access to the printed word.  Until now, the 
>>>traditional consumer book market has been largely closed to the 
>>>blind, leaving us with limited access to information.  Blind students 
>>>are often left behind in coursework, unable to obtain books at the 
>>>same time as their sighted peers.  With this groundbreaking new 
>>>partnership, for the first time in history, commercial access to 
>>>millions of books is about to become a reality for all blind people."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ray Kurzweil, CEO of K-NFB Reading Technology, said: "This dynamic 
>>>partnership will further my work of more than three decades with the 
>>>National Federation of the Blind to make the printed word easily 
>>>accessible to the blind.  With our growing repository of e-content, 
>>>Baker & Taylor's market leadership, and our innovative book 
>>>technology, blind people will have millions of books literally at their
fingertips.
>>>We expect this collaboration to revolutionize communication of 
>>>knowledge throughout the world."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Under the broad partnership with Baker & Taylor, K-NFB Reading 
>>>Technology's new e-reader with cutting-edge 3-D technology will 
>>>present content in formats accessible to the blind and others with 
>>>diverse reading needs, and will operate seamlessly on a variety of 
>>>electronic devices, including personal computers, smart phones, and cell
phones.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., is a joint venture between Kurzweil 
>>>Technologies, Inc., an innovator and pioneer in reading technologies 
>>>and the creator of the first print-to-speech reading machine for the 
>>>blind, and the National Federation of the Blind, the largest, most 
>>>influential membership organization of blind people in the United States.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>###
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>About the National Federation of the Blind
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind 
>>>is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind 
>>>people in the United States.  The NFB improves blind people's lives 
>>>through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs 
>>>encouraging independence and self-confidence.  It is the leading 
>>>force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's 
>>>blind.  In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the 
>>>Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in 
>>>the United States for the blind led by the blind.


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