[Blind-international-students] introducing myself and comments on your discussion

[Anmol Bhatia]

Hello Carly,
Good point. My basic arguement  is that inspite of technology that exist to assist a blind person identify their currency, NFB's opposition to make the US currency identifiable seems to me to go against the total independence belief that it touts. It seems to me that it alot more realistic and dueable to make currency identifiable then a car which a blind person can drive. The car which  is being touted by the NFB cost $150000 not  afordable for 99 percent of blind people.
Anmol
I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
Hellen Keller


--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] introducing myself and comments on your discussion
> To: "Blind International Students Mailing List" <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 4:51 PM
> Hi, Anmol,
> 
> Have you ever tried using those money identifiers? They're
> pieces of GARBAGE and you have to end up calling on ol'
> Sighty anyway to decipher encrypted
> And What is it with the NFB's stance on the seeming
> encouragement of division amongst blind and disabled folk
> when we ought to be setting such pettiness aside and getting
> together?
> C.   :37 PM 8/3/2010, you wrote:
> > Hello Jan,
> > I do believe in the basic philosophy of the NFB of
> braille education, independence, the right of blind
> individuals to teach other blind people and defeating the
> false immage and attitudes that sighted society holds
> towards blindness. However, my main issue with NFB has been
> that it sometimes goes to far. For example, I have yet to
> understand why NFB is so opposed to legislation which would
> make US currency excessable to the blind. Managing one's
> finances is a fundamental right of all Americans and even
> though technology does exist which can read papper currency
> and one can should find their method of managing their
> money, a blind are forced to depend on the honesty of
> sighted individuals to know how much money they have and
> this itself goes against the NFB philosophy  of
> independence. Also I do have some disagreement with NFB
> philosophy of total independence. I am a farely independ
> person but I think that at times it is ok to ask for help.
> As a student
> >  at the Arkansas School for the Blind I was
> thought by my hoste mother who was blind and by my teachers
> that it is ok to ask for help and as a adult I have found
> this to be so true. I consider myself to be a independent
> and confident blind adult but I still ask for help when I
> need to. Another good point you bring up is NFB does not
> seem to work with other disability organizations. Last week
> when attending the National Council on Disability Summit I
> was surprised not to see any officials  from NFB or
> ACB. This is not to say they were not there. There were alot
> of people who I did not meet. So someone from the NFB and
> ACB may have been there and I just did not know about it.
> However, I think both NFB and ACB should strive to work with
> any or all blindness related or disability organization.
> Blind people can only be put on back burner if we let
> ourselves do so and blind community is a large enough
> community within the disability community that if we unify
> >  and assert ourselves we can be the most powerful
> disabled comunity. This brings me to another point! I think
> the infighting between the NFB and ACB is really silly! Both
> organizations have alot of value to contribute for the blind
> community and frankly it seems to me that the differences
> between is not that much! It seems to me that there is more
> difference within the membership of each organization then
> there is between the organizations. Another words members of
> NFB and ACB have differences with each other more then NFB
> and ACB have with each other.Some have compared us to
> Democrats and Republicans, fair  comparison but the
> blind community is to small and our challenges to great for
> us to be Democrats and Republicans. As you know by now I am
> a person with strong oppinions and not afraid to share
> them  regardless of who I piss off or anger. lol I
> may  never be  invited to another NFB convention!
> lol
> > To answer your question about blindness organizations
> in other countries, on MIUSA's webcite there is a link which
> list all the disability organizations around the world. You
> can select which country or disability or both you wish to
> view and a list should appear.
> > www.miusa.org
> > One may think that MIUSA is paying me to promote them,
> but let me assure you that I am not receiving anything from
> MIUSA! lol
> > Is just that I love this organization and the work it
> is doing.
> > Anmol
> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
> make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at
> times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
> > Hellen Keller
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 8/3/10, jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> introducing myself and comments on your discussion
> > > To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 2:39 PM
> > >   Hi Jim, Yasmin and Anmol,
> > >
> > > Anmol, I will ask:
> > > What part of the Nfb philosophy do you find does
> not fit
> > > into the
> > > category of "positive."
> > > In short, which part do you have a difficult
> time
> > > supporting?
> > > We all -- well most of us, have certain things
> that we are
> > > passionate
> > > about within the NFB and some things that we are
> not as
> > > passionate about.
> > > Some of us are passionate about braille! Others
> are
> > > passionate about
> > > independent travel. Others are passionate about
> the "image
> > > of the
> > > blind in public."
> > > I must admit:
> > > There are parts of the philosophy that I support
> > > whole-heartedly.
> > > For example: I do believe  that everyone
> should have a
> > > chance to learn
> > > braille as a viable way of communicating.
> > > I believe that blind people should be taught by
> blind
> > > people.
> > > But, (one example of my divergence)  I did
> hear that
> > > in the philosophy
> > > that the NFB is skeptical (and does not care) to
> work with
> > > other
> > > organizations of disabled people.
> > > They say that if they work with other disabled
> people's
> > > organizations,
> > > blind people get  put on the backburner.
> > > I understand this skepticism. But, I would
> encourage us to
> > > still try
> > > to work with other organizations - yet, have our
> goal
> > > firmly planted
> > > in our mind.
> > > So, you might say that I "disagree," with that
> portion of
> > > the philosophy.
> > > But, for me:
> > > I am in the nfb because I want to help blind
> people achieve
> > > their
> > > highest  potential.
> > > I want to show us (I am not so worried about that
> fickle
> > > sighted
> > > public) that We can live the life that we want.
> > > We can be parents.
> > > We can be professionals.
> > > We can go on trips independently.
> > > We can enjoy activities such as sports, games,
> playing an
> > > instrument,
> > > picnics, etc.
> > > We can worship as we choose.
> > > We can go to college.
> > > We can have a career.
> > > We can live fulfilling lives full of all of the
> events
> > > that  are
> > > present in the lives of the sighted.
> > > That is why I am here.
> > >
> > > And, maybe that is what we can take to other
> countries.
> > > Thoughts?????
> > >
> > > There are organizations in other countries.
> > > Does the world Blind Union have a listing of
> these
> > > organizations in
> > > each country?
> > > I have found some, but not many.
> > > I thought that one thing that the World Blind
> Union can do
> > > is to
> > > provide an international directory of
> organizations and
> > > services for
> > > the blind.
> > > It would also be nice if they could help with an
> internet
> > > site and
> > > a bit of email.
> > > Yes, I have seen the International Library
> Service provide
> > > a small
> > > list, but it is out of date, I am positive.
> > >
> > > Blind corps, well, I will have to google this.
> > > Do they only go to turkey?????
> > >
> > > I am sorry to hear about Robert Leslie Newman.
> > > I  always enjoyed the thought provoker and
> hope that
> > > someday, a writer
> > > takes it on.
> > > Jan
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/3/10, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hello James,
> > > > First and for most welcome to the list.
> > > > I like Hina ecco the value that people like
> you and
> > > Jan bring to
> > > > international students and for blind
> individuals in
> > > under developed
> > > > countries.
> > > > During the Inter Cultural Exchange Committee
> meeting,
> > > Buna Dahal, one of the
> > > > co-founders of Blind Core did a presentation
> on Blind
> > > Cor and as I mentioned
> > > > to the group  sometime ago on the
> discussion that
> > > maybe this can be one of
> > > > our adopted projects.
> > > > I actually met the young lady from Japan
> whom you were
> > > refering to at the
> > > > Travel and Tureism chapter meeting. To be
> quite
> > > honest, she provided me with
> > > > her contact information and I accidently
> deleted it so
> > > if it would be
> > > > possible for you to get her contact
> information and
> > > email me off list I
> > > > would really appreciate it.
> > > > This brings up another idea! Maybe we could
> advertise
> > > with the Travel and
> > > > Tureism group and send out a flyer on their
> list
> > > serve. I am pretty sure
> > > > there would be members in this group who
> would love to
> > > connect with
> > > > international students and possibley do
> some
> > > international development
> > > > project.
> > > > I am glad you brought the point about
> starting a
> > > special interest
> > > > international division within NFB. I think
> we would
> > > have more supporters
> > > > then not. As you mentioned that most people
> would
> > > enthusiastically support
> > > > us and this is true and these people would
> also bring
> > > our group value. My
> > > > vision is that our group  would consist
> of
> > > international students, people
> > > > who care deeply about international students
> such as
> > > yourself and Jan and
> > > > Americans who are interested in travel
> abroad eather
> > > for studies or just
> > > > travel or are interested in making
> international
> > > friends. I think we would
> > > > also have alot of second generation US
> citizens
> > > meaning those who are
> > > > naturalized  US citizens. I met a
> person who was a
> > > naturalized  US citizen
> > > > but said he will always be international in
> heart.
> > > > In addition, we would have supportors who
> may not
> > > Necessarily  be active
> > > > with our group,  but would be
> supportors  of our
> > > cause. As you mentioned,
> > > > there will certainly be a few who would be
> hostile to
> > > our cause and
> > > > existence but these will be few. One thing I
> have
> > > learned in more then 20
> > > > years of living in the United States is that
> people
> > > who are hostile towards
> > > > international students and people who are
> not lucky
> > > enough to be US citizens
> > > > are usually the same people who hold
> negative attitude
> > > towards many things
> > > > including blindness and are usually the
> people who are
> > > self serving meaning
> > > > only think about what is best for them. I
> have learned
> > > through experience
> > > > that it is best just to ignore these
> people.
> > > > As you mentioned the benefit a organized
> special
> > > interest  group for us is
> > > > that it would allow us to have a leadership
> structure,
> > > allow us to open up a
> > > > bank account and allow us to rais funds.
> > > > I like the idea of writing up a one page add
> and
> > > distribute it to various
> > > > groups and anywhere else we may be able to
> recruit. My
> > > suggestion is that we
> > > > have a conference call maybe as soon 
> as this
> > > weekend to discuss the content
> > > > of the add and brainstorm of places where we
> could
> > > advertise. Any thoughts?
> > > > Jim you brought up another advantage of our
> group and
> > > this list. Amazing how
> > > > ideas pop up in one's mind! When you
> mentioned that
> > > you were Hina's pen-pal,
> > > > it occured to me that this group would be
> excellent
> > > place to build pen-pal
> > > > relationships with blind individuals in
> other
> > > countries. To be quite frank a
> > > > teacher at the Arkansas School for the
> Blind
> > > encouraged me to find a pen-pal
> > > > but I was simply just to lazy to do it. This
> were the
> > > days of writing and
> > > > mailing the letter before the days of email
> and
> > > internet. Amazing how
> > > > technology has changed even with
> communicating with
> > > pen-pal!
> > > > Anyways, Jim welcome to the list and please
> give
> > > Robbert Lesliy Newman our
> > > > best regard and wish him speady 
> recovery.
> > > >
> > > > sincerely,
> > > > Anmol
> > > >
> > > > I seldom think about my limitations, and
> they never
> > > make me sad. Perhaps
> > > > there is just a touch of yearning at times;
> but it is
> > > vague, like a breeze
> > > > among flowers.
> > > > Hellen Keller
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 8/2/10, James H. "Jim" Canaday
> M.A. N6YR
> > > <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> From: James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR
> <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> > > >> Subject: [Blind-international-students]
> > > introducing myself and comments on
> > > >> your discussion
> > > >> To: "Blind International Students
> Mailing List"
> > > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 7:53 PM
> > > >> Hello members of the Blind
> > > >> Internationals nfb list;
> > > >> I am Jim Canaday.  I am the
> president of the
> > > Jayhawk
> > > >> chapter of the NFB of kansas, here in
> Lawrence
> > > (where Kansas
> > > >> University is located).  I am also
> active with
> > > the
> > > >> writers division of NFB.
> > > >> I'll give more of an introduction later
> down this
> > > e-mail.
> > > >> > I have been delighted that
> nfb  supported
> > > this effort
> > > >> by providing the list for
> internationals.  I
> > > care
> > > >> deeply about blind international
> students who are
> > > here in
> > > >> the U.S.  I am also quite concerned
> about
> > > conditions
> > > >> for most blind people in the
> world.  I know very
> > > well
> > > >> in my heart that blind people have it
> much better
> > > here than
> > > >> in most of the world and that means that
> we have a
> > > serious
> > > >> responsibility.
> > > >>
> > > >> Robert Leslie Newman, president of the
> writers
> > > division and
> > > >> active member of Blind Corps is
> currently in the
> > > hospital,
> > > >> he lives in nebraska.  he cares
> deeply and works
> > > >> diligently to bring the nfb philosophy
> of
> > > orientation and
> > > >> mobility to other countries through
> blind corps;
> > > they
> > > >> go teach the teachers primarily. 
> that  way
> > > other
> > > >> countries can train their own blind
> people.
> > > >> also from nebraska is Fetos Floyd who
> grew to
> > > adulthood in
> > > >> Turkey.  she is I believe the head
> of the
> > > nebraska
> > > >> center for the blind where training
> takes place
> > > and she
> > > >> participates in blind corps too.
> > > >> robert and fetos and several others
> recently
> > > returned from
> > > >> their second trip to turkey.  it
> seems that the
> > > program
> > > >> in turkey is doing very well.  I
> believe that all
> > > of
> > > >> the members of Blind Corps are members
> of NFB.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have communicated with officers of
> NABS about
> > > this group
> > > >> recently, and several months ago. 
> there is an
> > > >> international grad student here in my
> chapter and
> > > I have
> > > >> told her of this list.  I cannot
> tell you why she
> > > is
> > > >> hesitant to join.
> > > >>
> > > >> it's really great to see the activity on
> this list
> > > increase
> > > >> so much!   blind people
> often experience
> > > >> isolation.  I think that may often
> be worse for
> > > blind
> > > >> international students who come here to
> study.
> > > >>
> > > >> if I can give a little advice,
> > > >> I believe that international students
> and
> > > internationals in
> > > >> the U.S. should actually have their own
> division
> > > in
> > > >> NFB.  you are at the beginning of
> this process.
> > > >> or you are at the beginning of becoming
> a special
> > > interest
> > > >> group.  as a division you will get
> more attention
> > > and
> > > >> have more impact on others.  it
> takes time to
> > > build a
> > > >> group, organize and form a
> division.  and your
> > > >> experience is actually typical. 
> yes some people
> > > may be
> > > >> put off by your being internationals,
> but most
> > > will
> > > >> not.  some people  will be put
> off by the fact
> > > >> that I am from kansas, too.
> > > >>
> > > >> Divisions start from the ground up most
> often.
> > > you
> > > >> have taken steps  already like
> other groups did:
> > > >> forming communication within yourselves;
> defining
> > > your
> > > >> identity and your interests; and forming
> goals.
> > > I hope
> > > >> you might find in your hearts some
> patience with
> > > the rest of
> > > >> us in the federation, as we are all
> human too.
> > > some of
> > > >> us will enthusiastically work with
> internationals,
> > > many will
> > > >> be shy or busy with other interests, and
> a few
> > > will be truly
> > > >> hostile.  please don't let the few
> bad people put
> > > you
> > > >> off.
> > > >>
> > > >> more advice.
> > > >> maybe you all have done this but I have
> not seen
> > > it.
> > > >> you are now in the stage of getting
> interested
> > > people
> > > >> together for your organization.  a
> very simple
> > > thing
> > > >> you can do in this is to write a direct
> one page
> > > >> statement.  your organization's
> statement should
> > > give
> > > >> your tentative name, your e-mail list
> info for
> > > subscribing,
> > > >> who you are, what your interests are,
> and who you
> > > are
> > > >> looking for as new members.  and
> any other
> > > contact
> > > >> information that would be useful. 
> your statement
> > > then
> > > >> can be easily posted to groups, and
> people can
> > > forward it
> > > >> along.  you will have a
> single  presentation
> > > that
> > > >> you all have agreed on that represents
> you.
> > > your
> > > >> statement also can go into the Braille
> Monitor.
> > > >>
> > > >> to get this statement together, you need
> to first
> > > decide
> > > >> what your goals and interests are. 
> think of who
> > > you
> > > >> are looking for as potential
> members.  and, you
> > > can
> > > >> consider how to put your group's
> presentation
> > > together from
> > > >> those decisions.  I would not
> presume to suggest
> > > to you
> > > >> what these should be.  but if you
> have a unified
> > > >> message, and one that is very easily
> distributed,
> > > it is very
> > > >> powerful.  there are people you
> want in your
> > > group who
> > > >> may have to hear about it two or more
> times before
> > > they
> > > >> reach out to you.
> > > >>
> > > >> I believe strongly in NFB, and I also
> know that
> > > >> internationals are wonderful people who
> also teach
> > > the rest
> > > >> of us much.  so I very strongly
> hope that you
> > > will work
> > > >> within NFB.  NFB has great
> resources you will
> > > find
> > > >> helpful.  it also has a wonderful
> network of
> > > >> people.  NFB will be much better
> with you in it.
> > > >>
> > > >> though you do not have a formal
> organization now,
> > > it would
> > > >> be worth investigating forming
> one.  that way you
> > > can
> > > >> designate officers and have a bank
> account.
> > > also,
> > > >> others will see you are serious by
> taking these
> > > >> steps.   again, many
> other divisions and
> > > >> special interest groups have done the
> same
> > > thing.  and
> > > >> most started with very little if any
> push or
> > > support from
> > > >> NFB national leadership.  there are
> at least two
> > > other
> > > >> nfb groups I could participate with, but
> I do not
> > > have the
> > > >> time or energy to join in with them.
> > > >>
> > > >> if you look at the writers division
> website
> > > >> www.nfb-writers-division.org
> > > >> you will see that we have a very good
> website.
> > > this
> > > >> is also provided by the national
> organization.
> > > but
> > > >> they did not provide such things for the
> writers
> > > division
> > > >> until it was organized and functioning.
> > > >>
> > > >> enough advice?
> > > >>
> > > >> *I am here because of Hina.  five
> years and a
> > > month
> > > >> ago, I wrote to her in Pakistan, and I
> was
> > > incredibly
> > > >> fortunate to be her pen pal.  she
> is a dear
> > > friend of
> > > >> mine.
> > > >>
> > > >> the M.A. after my name is in clinical
> psychology,
> > > and I
> > > >> completed the practicum as a student
> > > >> therapist.   I earned the
> degree at kansas
> > > >> university in 1991, with no help from
> kansas
> > > >> university.  K.U. has a sad long
> history of not
> > > >> properly providing services for blind
> students.
> > > >>
> > > >> I grew up in rural central california so
> I am
> > > curious about
> > > >> where Miso lives.  I was completely
> blind from
> > > age 13,
> > > >> and partial before that.  my
> bachelor's degree is
> > > from
> > > >> the university of california at davis.
> > > >>
> > > >> I am married and have no children.
> > > >>
> > > >> I hope I can help this group to grow
> and
> > > flourish.
> > > >>
> > > >> jc
> > > >>
> > > >> At 04:48 PM 8/2/2010, you wrote:
> > > >> > Hello,
> > > >> > Jan if you will recall one of the
> co-founders
> > > of Blind
> > > >> Core was from Turkey and is I believe
> the director
> > > of VR in
> > > >> Nebraska. However, do not quote me on
> this. I do
> > > not agree
> > > >> about bringing NFB philosophy to my
> country but a
> > > philosophy
> > > >> which promotes possitive attitude about
> blindness
> > > and a can
> > > >> do attitude. Just my two sense .
> > > >> > Anmol
> > > >> > I seldom think about my
> limitations, and they
> > > never
> > > >> make me sad. Perhaps there is just a
> touch of
> > > yearning at
> > > >> times; but it is vague, like a breeze
> among
> > > flowers.
> > > >> > Hellen Keller
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Reyazuddin,
> Yasmin
> > > >> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > From: Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > > >> > > Subject: Re:
> > > [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> [Blind-international-students
> introduction
> > > >> > > To: "Blind International
> Students
> > > Mailing List"
> > > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > Date: Monday, August 2, 2010,
> 3:42 PM
> > > >> > > Hi Hena and all
> > > >> > > Once again, we need to
> communicate with
> > > Ron Brown
> > > >> and see
> > > >> > > if he will support us. Also if
> some of
> > > you will
> > > >> remember
> > > >> > > there was a group of blind
> > > federationists who
> > > >> went to Turkey
> > > >> > > to teach the blind
> professionals there.
> > > May be we
> > > >> need to
> > > >> > > talk with Robert Leslie Newman
> from
> > > Nebraska who
> > > >> did the
> > > >> > > program.
> > > >> > > The NFB has send out people to
> other
> > > countries
> > > >> for teaching
> > > >> > > federation philosophy.
> > > >> > > We who get trained here need
> to go back
> > > to our
> > > >> home country
> > > >> > > and take the federation to
> people
> > > there.
> > > >> > > Yasmin Reyazuddin
> > > >> > > Aging & Disability
> services
> > > >> > > Montgomery County Government
> > > >> > > Department of Health &
> human
> > > Services
> > > >> > > 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd
> floor)
> > > >> > > Rockville MD 20850
> > > >> > > 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> > > >> > > 240-777-1556 (personal)
> > > >> > > 240-777-1495 (fax)
> > > >> > > office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
> > > >> > > Languages English, Hindi,
> Urdu, Braille
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > This message may contain
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> > > >> information or
> > > >> > > other information that is
> confidential
> > > or
> > > >> privileged. If you
> > > >> > > are not the intended
> recipient, please
> > > contact
> > > >> the sender by
> > > >> > > return mail and destroy any
> copies of
> > > this
> > > >> material.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Thank you.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > > >> > > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > > >> > > On Behalf Of hina altaf
> > > >> > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010
> 4:18 PM
> > > >> > > To: Blind International
> Students Mailing
> > > List
> > > >> > > Subject: Re:
> > > [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > >
> > > [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > hi jan,
> > > >> > >  yes that is why i
> started this list
> > > and had
> > > >> philip help me
> > > >> > > as co
> > > >> > > founder. buna is on the list
> but she
> > > never said
> > > >> anything.
> > > >> > > she is a
> > > >> > > wonderful person but i think
> if she
> > > wanted to do
> > > >> anything
> > > >> > > for this
> > > >> > > list or international
> students, she
> > > would have
> > > >> said
> > > >> > > something by now
> > > >> > > or before. but i am not sure
> how to
> > > respond to
> > > >> this since
> > > >> > > she never
> > > >> > > spoke much in the list and i
> know she
> > > was in the
> > > >> list since
> > > >> > > she did
> > > >> > > communicate with me long time
> ago.
> > > >> > > so that is my question, does
> nfb
> > > officials want
> > > >> to get
> > > >> > > involve with
> > > >> > > helping internationals and
> people in
> > > under
> > > >> developed
> > > >> > > countries? that
> > > >> > > is something i can not answer
> and most
> > > nfb
> > > >> officials are
> > > >> > > quiet on this
> > > >> > > list and some don't even
> respond.
> > > >> > > hina.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On 8/2/10, Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> > > >> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > Hi Jan,
> > > >> > > > Good observation.
> > > >> > > > Most of the time the
> international
> > > people
> > > >> are the
> > > >> > > underserved as they are
> > > >> > > > (we are) not included in
> or
> > > promoted other
> > > >> than being
> > > >> > > a member.
> > > >> > > > If we move forward and
> become
> > > leaders other
> > > >> (majority)
> > > >> > > do not like it. I
> > > >> > > > know it from my personal
> > > experience.
> > > >> > > > I have to thank the
> scholarship
> > > committee
> > > >> this year as
> > > >> > > there were many
> > > >> > > > international students
> who won the
> > > >> scholarships. If we
> > > >> > > could have the
> > > >> > > > students participate and
> become
> > > leaders in
> > > >> their own
> > > >> > > communities we will not
> > > >> > > > be underserved or
> impoverished.
> > > >> > > > Yasmin Reyazuddin
> > > >> > > > Aging & Disability
> services
> > > >> > > > Montgomery County
> Government
> > > >> > > > Department of Health
> & human
> > > Services
> > > >> > > > 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd
> floor)
> > > >> > > > Rockville MD 20850
> > > >> > > > 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> > > >> > > > 240-777-1556 (personal)
> > > >> > > > 240-777-1495 (fax)
> > > >> > > > office hours 8:30 am 5:00
> pm
> > > >> > > > Languages English, Hindi,
> Urdu,
> > > Braille
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > This message may contain
> protected
> > > health
> > > >> information
> > > >> > > or other information
> > > >> > > > that is confidential or
> privileged.
> > > If you
> > > >> are not the
> > > >> > > intended recipient,
> > > >> > > > please contact the sender
> by return
> > > mail and
> > > >> destroy
> > > >> > > any copies of this
> > > >> > > > material.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Thank you.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > -----Original
> Message-----
> > > >> > > > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > > >> > > > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > > >> > > On Behalf Of jan
> > > >> > > > wright
> > > >> > > > Sent: Monday, August 02,
> 2010 3:52
> > > PM
> > > >> > > > To: Blind International
> Students
> > > Mailing
> > > >> List
> > > >> > > > Subject: Re:
> > > [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > > >
> > > [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Hi Yasmin,
> > > >> > > > That is an interesting
> thought.
> > > >> > > > I know Ron and I am sure
> that he
> > > would be
> > > >> open to the
> > > >> > > idea.
> > > >> > > > My only question is:
> > > >> > > > Since
> "underserved,"   has a
> > > >> broader
> > > >> > > application than
> "international
> > > >> > > > students," do you think
> that the
> > > >> international
> > > >> > > community will be ....
> > > >> > > > .... last to receive
> support?
> > > >> > > > Just a question.
> > > >> > > > Honestly, I am not
> certain, but it
> > > doesn't
> > > >> seem that
> > > >> > > this group is
> > > >> > > > getting much notice in
> the NFB, as
> > > it is.
> > > >> > > > Anmol had some great
> ideas!
> > > >> > > > We should not let them
> pass as
> > > ideas only.
> > > >> > > > Jan
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On 8/2/10, hina altaf
> <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >> what is the goal of
> that group
> > > yasmin?
> > > >> we can do
> > > >> > > it but i would like
> > > >> > > >> to know more about
> that group
> > > first. and
> > > >> then you
> > > >> > > can send the email.
> > > >> > > >> how is it going to
> help us in
> > > starting a
> > > >> project
> > > >> > > to help people in
> > > >> > > >> under developed
> countries?
> > > thanks.
> > > >> hina.
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> On 8/2/10,
> Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> > > >> > > >> <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > > >> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>> Hi Hena, and
> all:
> > > >> > > >>> I will suggest
> that we
> > > consider
> > > >> combining two
> > > >> > > groups into one and getting
> > > >> > > >>> what we need. The
> cultural
> > > exchange
> > > >> group
> > > >> > > should join forces with the
> > > >> > > >>> committee to
> empower
> > > underserved
> > > >> population.
> > > >> > > >>> The goals are
> similar and
> > > then we
> > > >> will also
> > > >> > > have the support of the
> > > >> > > >>> national
> > > >> > > >>> office. I can
> start the
> > > process by
> > > >> sending an
> > > >> > > email to Ron Brown who is
> > > >> > > >>> the
> > > >> > > >>> president of
> Indiana.
> > > >> > > >>> We have a meeting
> every
> > > year and can
> > > >> do more
> > > >> > > that way.
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> Yasmin
> Reyazuddin
> > > >> > > >>> Aging &
> Disability
> > > services
> > > >> > > >>> Montgomery
> County
> > > Government
> > > >> > > >>> Department of
> Health &
> > > human
> > > >> Services
> > > >> > > >>> 401 Hungerford
> Drive (3rd
> > > floor)
> > > >> > > >>> Rockville MD
> 20850
> > > >> > > >>> 240-777-0311
> (MC311)
> > > >> > > >>> 240-777-1556
> (personal)
> > > >> > > >>> 240-777-1495
> (fax)
> > > >> > > >>> office hours 8:30
> am 5:00
> > > pm
> > > >> > > >>> Languages
> English, Hindi,
> > > Urdu,
> > > >> Braille
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> This message may
> contain
> > > protected
> > > >> health
> > > >> > > information or other
> > > >> > > >>> information
> > > >> > > >>> that is
> confidential or
> > > privileged.
> > > >> If you are
> > > >> > > not the intended
> > > >> > > >>> recipient,
> > > >> > > >>> please contact
> the sender
> > > by return
> > > >> mail and
> > > >> > > destroy any copies of this
> > > >> > > >>> material.
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> Thank you.
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> -----Original
> Message-----
> > > >> > > >>> From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > > >> > > >>> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > > >> > > On Behalf Of
> > > >> > > >>> hina
> > > >> > > >>> altaf
> > > >> > > >>> Sent: Monday,
> August 02,
> > > 2010 1:38
> > > >> PM
> > > >> > > >>> To: Blind
> International
> > > Students
> > > >> Mailing List
> > > >> > > >>> Subject: Re:
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > >
> [Blind-international-students][Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> hi anmol,
> > > >> > > >>>  i agree
> with you and
> > > that's
> > > >> what we
> > > >> > > tried last year without much
> > > >> > > >>> success. i think
> on this
> > > issue i
> > > >> need to talk
> > > >> > > to you either on the
> > > >> > > >>> phone or online.
> there are
> > > a lot of
> > > >> issues and
> > > >> > > things that i don't
> > > >> > > >>> feel comfortable
> discussing
> > > on nfb
> > > >> mailing
> > > >> > > list due to some reasons
> > > >> > > >>> which i think we
> can talk
> > > off list.
> > > >> > > >>> hina.
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> On 8/2/10, Anmol
> Bhatia
> > > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>> Hello Jan and
> Hina,
> > > >> > > >>>> Due to
> reasons which I
> > > do not
> > > >> want to
> > > >> > > mention on the list I do not
> think
> > > >> > > >>>> our
> > > >> > > >>>> list would
> get much
> > > >> advertisement from the
> > > >> > > NFB officials. So this means
> > > >> > > >>>> that
> > > >> > > >>>> more then
> likely we
> > > will have to
> > > >> self
> > > >> > > advertise. Personally I have
> been
> > > >> > > >>>> advertising
> through
> > > word of
> > > >> mouth telling
> > > >> > > my friends or anyone who may
> > > >> > > >>>> be
> > > >> > > >>>> interested in
> joining
> > > or is
> > > >> interested in
> > > >> > > international issues. Also
> > > >> > > >>>> maybe
> > > >> > > >>>> someone can
> write a
> > > article for
> > > >> Mobility
> > > >> > > International USA (MIUSA)
> > > >> > > >>>>
> www.miusa.org
> > > >> > > >>>> and it would
> be
> > > published on
> > > >> their
> > > >> > > webcite. It is a non-profit
> > > >> > > >>>> organization
> > > >> > > >>>> which works
> on
> > > international
> > > >> development
> > > >> > > for people with disabilities
> in
> > > >> > > >>>> other
> countries and
> > > also
> > > >> promotes
> > > >> > > international travel for
> individuals
> > > >> > > >>>> with
> > > >> > > >>>> disabilities.
> Some
> > > things they
> > > >> do is to
> > > >> > > promote study abroad
> > > >> > > >>>>
> opportunities
> > > >> > > >>>> for students
> with
> > > disabilities
> > > >> and
> > > >> > > leadership trainings for
> individuals
> > > >> > > >>>> with
> > > >> > > >>>> disabilities.
> I would
> > > encourage
> > > >> you to
> > > >> > > visit their webcite and maybe
> > > >> > > >>>> sign
> > > >> > > >>>> up
> > > >> > > >>>> for their
> news letter.
> > > >> > > >>>> Also we may
> want to
> > > consider
> > > >> sending a
> > > >> > > blerb to various list serves
> that
> > > >> > > >>>> we
> > > >> > > >>>> are on to let
> people
> > > know that
> > > >> there is a
> > > >> > > list serve for international
> > > >> > > >>>> students and
> for anyone
> > > who
> > > >> wants to
> > > >> > > communicate with
> international
> > > >> > > >>>> students
> > > >> > > >>>> or is
> interested in
> > > learning
> > > >> about study
> > > >> > > abroad or volunteer
> > > >> > > >>>>
> opportunities
> > > >> > > >>>> abroad. Also
> someone
> > > could write
> > > >> a article
> > > >> > > for the Student Slate (a news
> > > >> > > >>>> letter
> sponsored by the
> > > NABS "a
> > > >> student
> > > >> > > chapter of the NFB")
> September
> > > >> > > >>>> issue. I
> would
> > > volunteer to do
> > > >> this but I
> > > >> > > am already writing couple of
> > > >> > > >>>> articles so
> it may be a
> > > bit to
> > > >> much.
> > > >> > > >>>> The list is
> on the NFB
> > > >> discussion list.
> > > >> > > Infact  thats how I
> learned
> > > >> > > >>>> about
> > > >> > > >>>> it, but most
> people do
> > > not think
> > > >> about
> > > >> > > going to the discussion list
> page
> > > >> > > >>>> and
> > > >> > > >>>> therefore are
> not aware
> > > of it.
> > > >> > > >>>> Also I think
> having
> > > regular
> > > >> conference
> > > >> > > calls and some fun activities
> > > >> > > >>>> will
> > > >> > > >>>> help generate
> interest
> > > in the
> > > >> group.
> > > >> > > >>>> Just some
> thoughts.
> > > >> > > >>>> Anmol
> > > >> > > >>>> I seldom
> think about
> > > my
> > > >> limitations, and
> > > >> > > they never make me sad.
> Perhaps
> > > >> > > >>>> there is just
> a touch
> > > of
> > > >> yearning at
> > > >> > > times; but it is vague, like
> a
> > > >> > > >>>> breeze
> > > >> > > >>>> among
> flowers.
> > > >> > > >>>> Hellen
> Keller
> > > >> > > >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>> --- On Mon,
> 8/2/10,
> > > hina altaf
> > > >> <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>> From:
> hina altaf
> > > <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>> Subject:
> Re:
> > > >> > >
> [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > >
> > > [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >>>>> To:
> "Blind
> > > International
> > > >> Students
> > > >> > > Mailing List"
> > > >> > > >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > >>>>> Date:
> Monday,
> > > August 2,
> > > >> 2010, 12:03
> > > >> > > PM
> > > >> > > >>>>> i
> contacted Diane
> > > >> McGeorge  last
> > > >> > > >>>>> year as
> well about
> > > our group
> > > >> but
> > > >> > > >>>>> never got
> any
> > > reply. well
> > > >> where do you
> > > >> > > want to advertise
> > > >> > > >>>>> the
> group?
> > > >> > > >>>>> last year
> i and
> > > philip got
> > > >> an offer to
> > > >> > > do a radio show
> > > >> > > >>>>> about our
> group
> > > >> > > >>>>> but we
> did not do
> > > due to
> > > >> some reason
> > > >> > > that we discussed off
> > > >> > > >>>>> list.
> but
> > > >> > > >>>>> that is
> something
> > > we could
> > > >> still
> > > >> > > consider. hina.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>> On
> 8/2/10, jan
> > > wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>> > Hi
> Anmol,
> > > >> > > >>>>> > Tell
> us about
> > > the
> > > >> conference in
> > > >> > > DC.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > That
> sounds
> > > >> interesting.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > Yes,
> I forgot
> > > about the
> > > >> world
> > > >> > > Blind Union.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > I
> went to
> > > their site in
> > > >> hopes to
> > > >> > > join: but I am not
> > > >> > > >>>>> part of
> an
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> organization
> > > and I
> > > >> think that you
> > > >> > > have to have lots of
> > > >> > > >>>>> money to
> join.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > Or,
> you have
> > > to be part
> > > >> of a
> > > >> > > blindness organization.
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> Well, Anmol, I
> > > forgot
> > > >> about the
> > > >> > > blind corps also.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > I
> found this
> > > quite
> > > >> interesting.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > I'd
> like to
> > > know more
> > > >> about it
> > > >> > > and if we could
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> contribute in some
> > > type of
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> way.
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>> > Yes,
> I would
> > > be willing
> > > >> to hear
> > > >> > > this woman speak on a
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> conference call.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > I
> have a
> > > meeting on
> > > >> Tuesday, but
> > > >> > > the other days are
> > > >> > > >>>>> free for
> me.
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>> > I
> have emailed
> > > Diane
> > > >> McGeorge
> > > >> > > about this group and she
> > > >> > > >>>>> has not
> gotten
> > > >> > > >>>>> > back
> with me.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > So,
> I guess we
> > > will
> > > >> have to
> > > >> > > advertise ourselves.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > If
> we can get
> > > a good
> > > >> description
> > > >> > > about our group
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> together,  then
> > > we
> > > >> > > >>>>> > can
> send it to
> > > our
> > > >> divisions and
> > > >> > > state presidents for
> > > >> > > >>>>> them to
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> distribute.
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>> > Hey,
> Hina, you
> > > are
> > > >> moderator of
> > > >> > > the group:
> > > >> > > >>>>> > What
> do you
> > > think?
> > > >> > > >>>>> > I
> don't know,
> > > any
> > > >> thoughts?
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>> > On
> 8/2/10,
> > > Imran Ahmed
> > > >> <imran.altaf at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>
> What
> > > platform are
> > > >> you using
> > > >> > > to host the conference
> > > >> > > >>>>> calls?
> Please
> > > share
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>
> the
> > > necessary
> > > >> details so that
> > > >> > > all who are
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> interested, can
> > > participate
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>
> in the
> > > conference
> > > >> call.
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>
> Imran.
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>
> On 8/2/10,
> > > hina
> > > >> altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> hi
> > > anmol,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>  yes
> > > that
> > > >> is great idea
> > > >> > > to involve more
> > > >> > > >>>>> people an
> d
> > > organizations
> > > >> who
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> might
> > > be
> > > >> interested to
> > > >> > > help people from under
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> developed
> > > countries.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> buna
> > > is also on
> > > >> the list,
> > > >> > > i met her last year
> > > >> > > >>>>> and she
> is a very
> > > nice
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> lady
> > > who is
> > > >> very
> > > >> > > successfull in overcoming
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> challenges that she
> > > had
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> being
> > > someone
> > > >> from under
> > > >> > > developed countries.
> > > >> > > >>>>> how did
> your
> > > conference
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> go? i
> > > wish i
> > > >> could have
> > > >> > > been able to make it
> > > >> > > >>>>> but due
> to some
> > > issues i
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> was
> > > not able to
> > > >> attend
> > > >> > > although i qualified.
> > > >> > > >>>>> also i
> think we
> > > should
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> focuss
> > > on
> > > >> starting one
> > > >> > > project at a time and
> > > >> > > >>>>> discuss
> first what
> > > we
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> want
> > > to do. but
> > > >> i will be
> > > >> > > interested in
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> conference call and
> > > if we
> > > >> can
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> get
> > > some ideas
> > > >> from the
> > > >> > > members as well as
> > > >> > > >>>>> from some
> people
> > > who are
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>
> > > already serving
> > > >> under
> > > >> > > developed countries in
> > > >> > > >>>>> some
> ways. thanks.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> hina
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> On
> > > 8/1/10,
> > > >> Anmol Bhatia
> > > >> > > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > Hello Jan
> > > >> and all,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > Sorry it
> > > >> has taken me
> > > >> > > a while to respond.
> > > >> > > >>>>> I was in
> Washington
> > > D.C.
> > > >> last
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > week
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > for the
> > > >> National
> > > >> > > Council on Disability
> > > >> > > >>>>> Summit
> and got kind
> > > of busy
> > > >> since
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > returning.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > Jan you did
> > > >> pretty
> > > >> > > good job summarizing
> > > >> > > >>>>> what
> happened at
> > > the
> > > >> meeting,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > but
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > you for got
> > > >> about the
> > > >> > > World Blind Union.
> > > >> > > >>>>> Dr.
> Shroder (NFB's
> > > first
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > >> vice-president) who
> > > >> > > is active in the World
> > > >> > > >>>>> Blind
> Union told us
> > > about
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > World Blind
> > > >> Union and
> > > >> > > what it does. Also
> > > >> > > >>>>> Buna
> Dahal told us
> > > about
> > > >> her
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > experience
> > > >> about
> > > >> > > growing in Nepal as the
> > > >> > > >>>>> only
> person in her
> > > family
> > > >> who
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > is
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > blind and
> > > >> some of the
> > > >> > > challenges she
> > > >> > > >>>>> faced.
> She also
> > > told us
> > > >> about the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > Blind
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > Core (like
> > > >> the Peace
> > > >> > > Core) except a
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> organization which
> > > serves
> > > >> blind
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > people.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > Perhaps
> > > >> this can be
> > > >> > > one of our adopted
> > > >> > > >>>>> project
> that we as
> > > a group
> > > >> of
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > interested
> > > >> > > Federationest who are
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> interested in help
> > > blind
> > > >> kids in less
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > developed
> > > >> countries
> > > >> > > can work with. Also
> > > >> > > >>>>> last week
> I met a
> > > lady who
> > > >> is
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > doing
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > some work
> > > >> in
> > > >> > > Ecuador to train and assist
> > > >> > > >>>>> the
> disabled
> > > population
> > > >> there.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>> I
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > am
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > thinking
> > > >> about
> > > >> > > holding a conference call
> > > >> > > >>>>> next
> weekend so
> > > that the
> > > >> lady
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > who
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>> I
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > met can
> > > >> tell us about
> > > >> > > her work and what
> > > >> > > >>>>> she does.
> If I held
> > > a
> > > >> conference
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > call would
> > > >> you
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > >> attend?
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > Also Jan I
> > > >> actually
> > > >> > > thought about this
> > > >> > > >>>>> mailing
> list at the
> > > meeting,
> > > >> but
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>> be
> > > quit
> > > >> frank I felt
> > > >> > > that I was hogging
> > > >> > > >>>>> the
> discussione so
> > > decided
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > keep
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>> my
> > > mouth
> > > >> shut. But I
> > > >> > > wish I would have
> > > >> > > >>>>> said
> something or
> > > atleast
> > > >> got
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > everyone's
> > > >> email
> > > >> > > address so that we could
> > > >> > > >>>>> have
> formed some
> > > sort of
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > >> communication.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > Anmol
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>> I
> > > seldom
> > > >> think about
> > > >> > > my limitations, and
> > > >> > > >>>>> they
> never make me
> > > sad.
> > > >> Perhaps
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > there is
> > > >> just a touch
> > > >> > > of yearning at
> > > >> > > >>>>> times;
> but it is
> > > vague, like
> > > >> a
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > breeze
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > among
> > > >> flowers.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > Hellen
> > > >> Keller
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > --- On Sat,
> > > >> 7/24/10,
> > > >> > > jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> From:
> > > >> jan wright
> > > >> > > <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> Subject: Re:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > >
> > > [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> To:
> > > >> "Blind
> > > >> > > International Students
> > > >> > > >>>>> Mailing
> List"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Date:
> > > >> Saturday,
> > > >> > > July 24, 2010, 6:43
> > > >> > > >>>>> PM
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi
> > > >> All,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I will
> > > >> give a
> > > >> > > summary of what went on
> > > >> > > >>>>> during
> the meeting
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> (as it
> > > >> refers
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> to this
> > > >> list or
> > > >> > > things that we can do
> > > >> > > >>>>> on our
> own).
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Please,
> > > >> Anmol,
> > > >> > > chime in if I either
> > > >> > > >>>>> forget
> something
> > > or
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> present
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> something
> > > >> > > incorrectly.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> We
> > > >> discussed
> > > >> > > making books more
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> accessible for
> > > those who do
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> not
> > > >> live in the
> > > >> > > USA.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> We all
> > > >> know about
> > > >> > > the strict laws of
> > > >> > > >>>>> the
> Library of
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> Congress and
> > > >> > > NLS.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> There
> > > >> was some
> > > >> > > discussion about the
> > > >> > > >>>>> library
> in
> > > Australia
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> and how
> > > >> they
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> were
> > > >> trying to
> > > >> > > help others have access
> > > >> > > >>>>> to both
> braille
> > > (at
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> least
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> technical
> > > >> > > braille) and audio books.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> But,
> > > >> there were
> > > >> > > no suggestions as to
> > > >> > > >>>>> how we
> might
> > > assist
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> the
> > > >> process.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> We
> > > >> talked about
> > > >> > > sending items abroad.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Some
> > > >> people
> > > >> > > wanted to have a drive to
> > > >> > > >>>>> collect
> equipment
> > > or
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> products
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> for the
> > > >> blind and
> > > >> > > send them to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> developing
> > > countries.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> There
> > > >> was some
> > > >> > > discussion about the
> > > >> > > >>>>> postal
> fees.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> Apparently these
> > > >> > > fees have hindered
> > > >> > > >>>>> people
> from
> > > sending
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> large
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> quantities of
> > > >> > > products to other
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> countries.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> It was
> > > >> suggested
> > > >> > > that if we want to
> > > >> > > >>>>> try to
> get products
> > > to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> send
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> other
> > > >> countries:
> > > >> > > we do it
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> individually, not
> > > >> collectively.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> That
> > > >> was about
> > > >> > > the scope of the
> > > >> > > >>>>> meeting,
> as it
> > > pertained to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> us
> > > >> taking
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> action
> > > >> in some
> > > >> > > sort of way.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Anmol,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Did I
> > > >> forget
> > > >> > > anything?
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Jan
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On
> > > >> 7/24/10,
> > > >> > > Philip So <philipso101 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> This sounds
> > > >> > > interesting.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> > I
> > > >> agree with
> > > >> > > Imran that since the
> > > >> > > >>>>> group is
> small, we
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> could
> > > >> start with
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> one project
> > > >> > > first.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> Phil
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> > On
> > > >> 7/24/10,
> > > >> > > Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> hi jan,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> that
> > > >> > > is great. hope we
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> accomplish
> > > something.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> hina.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> -----
> > > >> > > Original Message -----
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> From:
> > > >> > > "jan wright" <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> To:
> > > >> > > "Blind International
> > > >> > > >>>>> Students
> Mailing
> > > List"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> Sent:
> > > >> > > Saturday, July 24, 2010
> > > >> > > >>>>> 1:28 PM
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> Subject:
> > > >> > > Re:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > >
> [Blind-international-students][Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> Hi
> > > >> > > Hina,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> Thanks!
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> If I
> > > >> > > don't see it on our
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> presidents' list,
> > > we
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> might
> > > >> have to
> > > >> > > just start
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> posting
> > > >> > > a blurb about it
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> ourselves.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> Jan
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> On
> > > >> > > 7/24/10, Carly Mihalakis
> > > >> > > >>>>> <carlymih at earthlink.net>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>> Hi,
> > > >> > > Anmol,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > Wasn't at the convention
> > > >> > > >>>>> so was
> not at the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> meeting
> > > >> in which
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > future of this List was
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> discussed. However,
> > > if
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I may I
> > > >> hope to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > suggest some things I
> > > >> > > >>>>> believe
> could
> > > cloud
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> perceptions while
> > > >> > > setting
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > global policies across
> > > >> > > >>>>> cultures
> of other
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> peoples
> > > >> and
> > > >> > > social fabrics.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>> It
> > > >> > > seems to me that a
> > > >> > > >>>>> group's
> cultural
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> identity ought to
> > > >> > > be kept
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > close in mind
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> while   seeking
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> to set
> > > >> universal
> > > >> > > policy and such.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>> It
> > > >> > > may be important to
> > > >> > > >>>>> consider
> that, one
> > > size
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> does
> > > >> not fit all
> > > >> > > in
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > matters of cultural
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> practices.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>> C.
> > > >> > > discussed ways to
> > > >> > > >>>>> help
> blind people
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> in
> > > >> developing
> > > >> > > countries and
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > maybe making the
> > > >> > > >>>>> committee
> more
> > > active so I
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> was
> > > >> thinking
> > > >> > > perhaps this
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > could be driving force
> > > >> > > >>>>> that can
> make it
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> happen.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>Any thoughts?
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>Anmol
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>I
> > > >> > > seldom think about
> > > >> > > >>>>> my
> limitations,
> > > and
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> they
> > > >> never make
> > > >> > > me sad.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>Perhaps there
> is just
> > > >> > > >>>>> a touch
> of
> > > yearning
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> at
> > > >> times; but it
> > > >> > > is vague,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>like a breeze
> among
> > > >> > > >>>>> flowers.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>Hellen Keller
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>--- On Fri,
> 7/23/10,
> > > >> > > >>>>> Hina
> <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > From: Hina
> > > >> > > >>>>> <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Subject: Re:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > >
> [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > >
> > > [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > To: "Blind
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> International
> > > Students
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Mailing
> > > >> List"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Date: Friday,
> > > >> > > >>>>> July 23,
> 2010, 7:16
> > > PM
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > hi anmol,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > that is a great
> > > >> > > >>>>> idea to
> turn it
> > > into
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> a
> > > >> discussion list
> > > >> > > to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > discuss
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> disability related
> > > issues.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> maybe
> > > >> someday we
> > > >> > > all
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > could  get
> > > >> > > >>>>> together
> and  do
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> something like
> > > >> > > that.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > ----- Original
> > > >> > > >>>>> Message
> -----
> > > From:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> "Anmol
> > > >> Bhatia"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > To: "Blind
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> International
> > > Students
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Mailing
> > > >> List"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Sent: Friday,
> > > >> > > >>>>> July 23,
> 2010 6:59
> > > PM
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Subject: Re:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > >
> [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > >
> > > [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Hi jan,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Wellcome to the
> > > >> > > >>>>> list. I
> believe I
> > > am
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> the guy
> > > >> from
> > > >> > > India who
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > you met at the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> Intercultural
> > > exchange
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> meeting. It
> > > >> > > occured to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > me later that
> > > >> > > >>>>> this
> group would be
> > > a
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> good
> > > >> resource for
> > > >> > > anyone
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > interested in
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> communicating with
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> international
> > > >> > > students and
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > maybe we could
> > > >> > > >>>>> even use
> it to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> implement some
> > > >> > > international
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > development
> > > >> > > >>>>> projects
> some of
> > > which we
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> discussed in the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > meeting. Perhaps
> > > >> > > >>>>> this can
> become
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> mailing
> > > >> list for
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Intercultural
> > > >> > > >>>>> exchange
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> committee. I
> > > >> > > really found the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > discussion about
> > > >> > > >>>>> Blind
> Core really
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> interesting and
> > > >> > > one day I
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > would love to
> > > >> > > >>>>> attend
> the World
> > > Blind
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Union.
> > > >> Someone
> > > >> > > had
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > suggest to me
> > > >> > > >>>>> that
> perhaps we
> > > can
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> have
> > > >> an
> > > >> > > international
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > table at the
> > > >> > > >>>>> bankquit
> but
> > > frankly
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> things
> > > >> were so
> > > >> > > busy I did
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > not even have
> > > >> > > >>>>> the time
> to visit
> > > with
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> this
> > > >> person.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > To answer your
> > > >> > > >>>>> question,
> I do not
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> mind
> > > >> answering
> > > >> > > any
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > question about
> > > >> > > >>>>> my
> country or my
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> experience or my
> > > >> > > culture or
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > religion. That
> > > >> > > >>>>> is how a
> person
> > > can
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> learn.
> > > >> So feel
> > > >> > > free to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > ask me any
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> questions.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Anmol
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > I seldom think
> > > >> > > >>>>> about my
> > > limitations,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> and
> > > >> they never
> > > >> > > make me
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > sad. Perhaps
> > > >> > > >>>>> there is
> just a
> > > touch of
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> yearning at
> > > >> > > times; but
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > it is vague,
> > > >> > > >>>>> like a
> breeze
> > > among
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> flowers.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Hellen Keller
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > --- On Fri,
> > > >> > > >>>>> 7/23/10,
> jan
> > > wright
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > From: jan
> > > >> > > >>>>> wright
> <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Subject:
> > > >> > > >>>>> Re:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > >
> [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > introduction
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > To: "Blind
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> International
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> Students Mailing
> > > >> > > List"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Date:
> > > >> > > >>>>> Friday,
> July 23,
> > > 2010,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 2:06
> > > >> PM
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Hi Hina,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Well, I
> > > >> > > >>>>> didn't
> meet many
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> international
> > > >> > > students.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > In the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> Intercultural
> > > exchange
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> meeting, there
> > > >> > > was a guy
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > from
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > India, but
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > he said
> > > >> > > >>>>> that it
> was his
> > > first
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> time.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > And, there
> > > >> > > >>>>> was so
> much on the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> agenda
> > > >> that we
> > > >> > > did not
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > get to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > mingle.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > I wish that
> > > >> > > >>>>> we had.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > I thought
> > > >> > > >>>>> that I
> heard other
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> international
> > > >> > > students
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > there:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > But, I felt
> > > >> > > >>>>> a bit
> awkward just
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> walking
> > > >> up to
> > > >> > > them and
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > saying:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > "Hi, my
> > > >> > > >>>>> name is
> Jan. Are
> > > you an
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> international
> > > >> > > student
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > or
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> non-American
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > NFB
> > > >> > > >>>>> member?"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > I may not
> > > >> > > >>>>> have been
> received
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> well.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > So, here is
> > > >> > > >>>>> a
> question for the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> group:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Do you mind
> > > >> > > >>>>> people
> approaching
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> you and
> > > >> asking
> > > >> > > you
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > what
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > country you
> > > >> > > >>>>> are
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > from and
> > > >> > > >>>>> other
> questions
> > > about
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> your
> > > >> journey as
> > > >> > > a
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > blind
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > person????
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Or, is that
> > > >> > > >>>>> just too
> personal
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> and do
> > > >> you get
> > > >> > > tired of
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > answering
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > questions
> > > >> > > >>>>> that
> emphasize
> > > your
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> differences?
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Jan
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > On 7/23/10,
> > > >> > > >>>>> Imran
> Ahmed <imran.altaf at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > > Hello
> > > >> > > >>>>> Noah,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > > Its
> > > >> > > >>>>> always
> exciting to
> > > come
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> across
> > > >> people on
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > lists
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > who are
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>> pursuing
> the same
> > > field as
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I am.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > > I
> > > >> > > >>>>> actually
> have a
> > > friend
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> located
> > > >> in oman
> > > >> > > who
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > works
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > there for
> > > >> > > >>>>> some
> company
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > > now.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > > When
> > > >> > > >>>>> did you
> happen to
> > > come
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> to USA?
> > > >> I have
> > > >> > > been
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > in the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > US for
> > > >> > > >>>>> almost
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > > for
> > > >> > > >>>>> four
> years now and
> > > hope
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >> settle down
> > > >> > > here.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > > Imran
> > > >> > > >>>>> Ahmed,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>> skype:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> Imran.altaf
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > > MSN:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > > imrancricketer1985 at hotmail.com
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>> phone:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> 414-671-9127
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > > On
> > > >> > > >>>>> 7/23/10,
> hina
> > > altaf
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >> hi
> > > >> > > >>>>> carly,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >>
> > > >> > > >>>>> i am also
> looking
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> into
> > > >> some
> > > >> > > university
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > for
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > my masters
> > > >> > > >>>>> in
> california
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >>
> > > >> > > >>>>> and might
> run
> > > across
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> someday.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >> On
> > > >> > > >>>>> 7/23/10,
> Carly
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> Mihalakis <carlymih at earthlink.net>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> Hi,
> > > Mr. Noah,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>    I used
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > live in
> > > >> > > >>>>> Denver
> and
> > > Littleton. My
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> friend,
> > > >> Tieu who
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> is
> > > also blind
> > > >> used
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> to go
> > > >> to UNC up
> > > >> > > in
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Greeley
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > I remember
> > > >> > > >>>>> passing
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>
> > > through Fort
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Collins
> > > >> on our
> > > >> > > way to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Greeley on
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > the bus.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> I
> > > would love
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> hear of
> > > >> your
> > > >> > > experiences
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > in
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Oman. Do
> > > >> > > >>>>> you have
> any
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>
> > > partial vision
> > > >> or
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> are you
> > > >> also a
> > > >> > > total?
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>> in
> > > Berkeley,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> California
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>   At
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 10:36
> > > >> AM
> > > >> > > 7/23/2010,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > you
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>Hi
> > > Jan,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>Welcome to
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> list!
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>My
> > > name is
> > > >> Noah
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Al
> > > >> Hadidi. I'm
> > > >> > > from
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Oman.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Most of the
> > > >> > > >>>>> people
> that I met
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>
> > > in
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> >>>>the
> > > US they
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> don't
> > > >> know Oman.
> > > >> > > It's a
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > country
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > located in
> > > >> > > >>>>> the
> middle east
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
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