[Blind-international-students] introducingmyself andcommentsonyour discussion

[Anmol Bhatia]

Thats if the students receives fellowship or graduate assistantship which is know garenty and even if they do at most universities international students still have to pay out of state depending on what the universitie's policy is for ga and RA. Now most universities are not offering out of state vaver of ga and ra and ta.
I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
Hellen Keller


--- On Wed, 8/4/10, Guido Corona <guidoc at austin.rr.com> wrote:

> From: Guido Corona <guidoc at austin.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] introducingmyself andcommentsonyour discussion
> To: "'Blind International Students Mailing List'" <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 1:31 PM
> All, at this time, only US citizens
> may work on US federal jobs/contracts.
> This is the current law of the land. international
> students, workers in the
> US on a work visa, as well as alien residents like me may
> not. If/when we
> become US citizen, the restriction is automatically lifted.
> 
> 
> Universities are partially funded by State government
> grants, which are in
> turn funded by the local tax base.  Students that come
> out of State, or out
> of country, have not had an opportunity of contributing to
> the State tax
> revenue pool, either directly or through their
> families.  As such, they are
> asked to contribute more directly to their undergrad
> education. Conversely,
> post-secondary foreign students enrolled in research Master
> programs or Ph.D
> programs are essentially fully funded by the schools,
> exactly like US
> citizens are.    
> 
> G.   
> 
> Guido D. Corona
> Email: guidoc at austin.rr.com
> Home office: (512) 996-9187
> Mobile: (512) 466-1322
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Anmol
> Bhatia
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:50 AM
> To: Blind International Students Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> introducingmyself
> andcommentsonyour discussion
> 
> And to add to this is that our options to work legally is
> vary limited.
> While in school we can only work on campous job such as the
> dinning room or
> the bookstore and work study can only be jobs which receive
> institution
> funds. Anotherwords, we can not do federal workstudy. So
> being a
> international student studying in the US is a challenge and
> not considering
> the challenge one faces being blind.
> Anmol
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me
> sad. Perhaps
> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
> vague, like a breeze
> among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 8/4/10, hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> introducingmyself
> andcommentsonyour discussion
> > To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 10:36 AM
> > well definitely we internationals are
> > not even on social security and
> > to buy such extra device is just too much and things
> like
> > money
> > identifiers add up to already so much expensive study.
> just
> > for you to
> > know, international students are charged twice more
> the
> > tuition and
> > also no federal aid or other means of funding.
> > 
> > On 8/4/10, Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
> > wrote:
> > > The cost to the USA infrastructure of having a
> war in
> > Iraq is also bloody
> > > prohibitive, doesn't seem to stop our leaders
> from
> > doing so.
> > > It's perhaps a question of priorities.
> > >
> > > Dan W.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Guido
> > > Corona
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:55 AM
> > > To: 'Blind International Students Mailing List'
> > > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> > introducingmyself
> > > andcommentsonyour discussion
> > >
> > > Dan, not quite sure if this has been mentioned,
> but
> > the current cost of a
> > > money identifier is $99, not $300 as
> suggested. 
> > ... See below.
> > >
> > > As for changing to a multi-size bill system, 
> it
> > simply will not happen.
> > > The cost to the USA infrastructure would be
> > prohibitive if the rationale
> > > remains purely an accessibility standpoint, for
> which
> > there is a
> > > multiplicity of workarounds/alternatives.
> > >
> > > * * * *
> > >
> > > >From the Braille Monitor for December 2009
> at:
> > > http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm09/bm0911/bm091118.htm
> > >
> > > New Money Identifier Available:
> > > We received the following press release
> describing a
> > new money identifier
> > > now available in the United States. Here, in
> part, is
> > the text of this
> > > announcement:
> > >
> > > Orbit Research has announced the introduction of
> the
> > iBill, the world's
> > > first affordable talking banknote identifier for
> the
> > blind and
> > > vision-impaired.
> > > Priced at $99, the 1.5 ounce pager-sized iBill
> > represents a breakthrough in
> > > enabling blind and vision impaired people to
> achieve
> > independence in the
> > > everyday
> > > necessity of using paper currency. At about a
> third of
> > the cost of existing
> > > devices, the iBill offers unrivaled features,
> ease of
> > use, and accuracy of
> > > identification.
> > >
> > > The iBill is an exceptionally convenient and
> > affordable solution that blind
> > > and vision-impaired people can use. Measuring
> just 3
> > inches by 1.6 inches by
> > > 0.7 inches, the ultra-slim and compact key-fob
> design
> > provides the ultimate
> > > in convenience, allowing it to be carried
> > unobtrusively in a pocket or
> > > purse,
> > > clipped to a belt, or attached to a keychain or
> > lanyard. Among the features
> > > that set it apart from other such devices are its
> high
> > accuracy (better than
> > > 99.9 percent) and the near-instantaneous speed
> (less
> > than one second in most
> > > cases) with which it identifies banknotes.
> > >
> > > The iBill provides the simplest, fastest, and
> most
> > accurate means to
> > > identify U.S. banknotes. Its unique ergonomic
> design
> > permits easy and
> > > intuitive use
> > > without training or practice. When a banknote is
> > inserted into the device,
> > > its denomination is identified at the press of a
> > button. Based on the user's
> > > preference, the denomination is announced by a
> clear
> > and natural voice or by
> > > tone or vibration for privacy. The unit
> identifies all
> > U.S. banknotes in
> > > circulation
> > > and recognizes them in any orientation. Banknotes
> in
> > poor physical condition
> > > are indicated as unidentifiable and are not
> misread.
> > The unit is also
> > > upgradeable
> > > to recognize new banknote designs.
> > >
> > > The iBill achieves all of this while operating on
> a
> > single, commonly
> > > available AAA battery, which lasts for over a
> year
> > with typical use. Its
> > > durable construction
> > > and sealed design ensure trouble-free use. The
> unit is
> > backed by a one-year
> > > warranty from Orbit Research, and toll-free
> customer
> > support is available.
> > >
> > > For further information contact Orbit Research,
> 3422
> > Old Capitol Trail,
> > > Suite 585, Wilmington, DE 19808; (888) 606-7248;
> > > <http://www.orbitresearch.com>.
> > >
> > > Guido D. Corona
> > > Email: guidoc at austin.rr.com
> > > Home office: (512) 996-9187
> > > Mobile: (512) 466-1322
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Dan
> > > Weiner
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:17 AM
> > > To: 'Blind International Students Mailing List'
> > > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> > introducing myself
> > > andcommentsonyour discussion
> > >
> > > Wait, the NFB, our NFB which claims that any
> > adaptation to money would cause
> > > the sighted to think less of our ability to
> handle
> > money, this NFB now wants
> > > to study tactile identification for money?
> > > Why do that, blindness is reduced, with proper
> > training and tecnique, to the
> > > level of a nuisance.
> > > Just because we have to ask people what our money
> is
> > and someone could give
> > > us a load of bull shit  and tell us it's a five
> > when it's a ten, doesn't
> > > mean we should do anything about it.
> > > The proceeding was sarcasm for those who didn't
> > guess--smile.
> > >
> > > Most of the countries I have visited  have
> paper
> > money of different sizes
> > > and not too many people in these countries use
> our
> > folding method of money
> > > identifying.
> > > The Japanese actually told me bluntly it sounded
> > weird--smile.
> > >
> > > A money identifyer, to quote our friend Carlie,
> is a
> > bunch of crap, or
> > > something like that.
> > > Many aren't reliable and they cost money.
> > > At $300.00 for the Note Teller, that means a
> person
> > getting six hundred
> > > dollars social security wouldn't be able to eat
> that
> > month.
> > > Now, granted there are other models, but I
> haven't
> > tried them yet.
> > >
> > > Speaking of Carlie, I sincerely apologize for
> not
> > being in touch, I don't
> > > know what I did with your Email in which you sent
> me
> > contact info, so please
> > > write me again at:
> > >
> > > dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
> > >
> > >
> > > I think our Federation is somewhat selective on
> the
> > projects we take on.
> > > If we don't want to take it on, then our leaders
> say
> > it's not necessary
> > > rather than  saying we just don't have the time
> > or inclination to deal with
> > > it.
> > > I'm pretty sick of the organized blind movement
> as far
> > as things like that
> > > are concerned, both ACB and NFB.
> > >
> > > Cordially,
> > >
> > > Dan W.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of
> > > Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:30 AM
> > > To: Blind International Students Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> > introducing myself
> > > andcommentsonyour discussion
> > >
> > > Hi Anmol, and others
> > > I just read many of the emails about the blind
> > international division and
> > > the issue about money identifier. I would like to
> say
> > this much about money.
> > > The NFB has been working for the last two years
> to get
> > some kind of tactile
> > > identification system on the paper bills. Some of
> us
> > who are totally blind
> > > are participating in a study. We may have the
> results
> > by next year.
> > > The second issue some have brought up is being
> > independent. There is a
> > > wonderful speech by Dr. Jernigan, "The Nature of
> > Independence" It is
> > > available on the NFB website. I suggest that you
> read
> > it. Asking for help is
> > > not new. Even sighted people ask for it.
> > > I will say that a division will be good. I think
> that
> > committee meetings
> > > have happened enough.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yasmin Reyazuddin
> > > Aging & Disability services
> > > Montgomery County Government
> > > Department of Health & human Services
> > > 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
> > > Rockville MD 20850
> > > 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> > > 240-777-1556 (personal)
> > > 240-777-1495 (fax)
> > > office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
> > > Languages English, Hindi, Urdu, Braille
> > >
> > >
> > > This message may contain protected health
> information
> > or other information
> > > that is confidential or privileged. If you are
> not the
> > intended recipient,
> > > please contact the sender by return mail and
> destroy
> > any copies of this
> > > material.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Anmol
> > > Bhatia
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:30 PM
> > > To: Blind International Students Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> > introducing myself andcommentson
> > > your discussion
> > >
> > > Hello Reyazuddin,,
> > > The sad reality is that the same is true for the
> > schools for the blind in
> > > the United States. The Arkansas School for the
> Blind
> > was not the same when I
> > > graduated from there as it was when I started
> there. I
> > often blind people
> > > that we are our own worst enemies. It is a pleg
> which
> > has hit blind
> > > community, blind schools, blind organizations
> and
> > professnals serving the
> > > blind community and we need a quick cure! lol
> > > However, our generation "our generation and
> beyound"
> > can not let the same
> > > happen when we come in leadership positions. I am
> also
> > from India and always
> > > like to meet other blind people from India.
> > > Anmol
> > > I seldom think about my limitations, and they
> never
> > make me sad. Perhaps
> > > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but
> it is
> > vague, like a breeze
> > > among flowers.
> > > Hellen Keller
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 8/3/10, Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> From: Reyazuddin, Yasmin <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> > introducing myself and
> > > commentson your discussion
> > >> To: "Blind International Students Mailing
> List"
> > > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 3:10 PM
> > >> Hi Jan,
> > >> I like your idea. We all have to think about
> what
> > is
> > >> important. For the group. I have not shared
> but
> > here it is.
> > >>
> > >> Last November I went to India, and visited my
> old
> > school.
> > >> This used to be a very good school when I
> went
> > there. We had
> > >> blind teachers and some sighted teachers.
> There
> > were blind
> > >> people working in different jobs.
> > >> I found out that the school has gone down
> hill,
> > meaning
> > >> there is no hope for the students. The
> school
> > administration
> > >> does not serve the blind community. They
> serve
> > their own
> > >> pockets. They have very few real teachers and
> the
> > rest are
> > >> administration pets.
> > >> When I went there, the security guard told me
> that
> > I was
> > >> not welcome. The school was closed and no
> staff
> > was there. I
> > >> persisted and went in. I met some of my old
> > teachers who
> > >> gave me the bad news. The school
> administration
> > and the
> > >> teachers are fighting against each other.
> There
> > are human
> > >> rights violations of all levels.
> > >> Blind graduates of the school are no longer
> able
> > to go to
> > >> college and they can not get jobs.
> > >> Students at the school are not getting any
> > assistance or
> > >> education. If you have a will you may get
> through
> > but it is
> > >> very difficult.
> > >>
> > >> I am sure that many others will have similar
> > stories.
> > >> Right now I am mentoring a young blind man
> who
> > lives in
> > >> India by email.
> > >> I am sorry if this is not the right forum
> for
> > this
> > >> discussion.
> > >>
> > >> Yasmin Reyazuddin
> > >> Aging & Disability services
> > >> Montgomery County Government
> > >> Department of Health & human Services
> > >> 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
> > >> Rockville MD 20850
> > >> 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> > >> 240-777-1556 (personal)
> > >> 240-777-1495 (fax)
> > >> office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
> > >> Languages English, Hindi, Urdu, Braille
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> This message may contain protected health
> > information or
> > >> other information that is confidential or
> > privileged. If you
> > >> are not the intended recipient, please
> contact the
> > sender by
> > >> return mail and destroy any copies of this
> > material.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > >> On Behalf Of jan wright
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:40 PM
> > >> To: Blind International Students Mailing
> List
> > >> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> > introducing
> > >> myself and commentson your discussion
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   Hi Jim, Yasmin and Anmol,
> > >>
> > >> Anmol, I will ask:
> > >> What part of the Nfb philosophy do you find
> does
> > not fit
> > >> into the
> > >> category of "positive."
> > >> In short, which part do you have a difficult
> time
> > >> supporting?
> > >> We all -- well most of us, have certain
> things
> > that we are
> > >> passionate
> > >> about within the NFB and some things that we
> are
> > not as
> > >> passionate about.
> > >> Some of us are passionate about braille!
> Others
> > are
> > >> passionate about
> > >> independent travel. Others are passionate
> about
> > the "image
> > >> of the
> > >> blind in public."
> > >> I must admit:
> > >> There are parts of the philosophy that I
> support
> > >> whole-heartedly.
> > >> For example: I do believe  that everyone
> should
> > have a
> > >> chance to learn
> > >> braille as a viable way of communicating.
> > >> I believe that blind people should be taught
> by
> > blind
> > >> people.
> > >> But, (one example of my divergence)  I did
> hear
> > that
> > >> in the philosophy
> > >> that the NFB is skeptical (and does not care)
> to
> > work with
> > >> other
> > >> organizations of disabled people.
> > >> They say that if they work with other
> disabled
> > people's
> > >> organizations,
> > >> blind people get  put on the backburner.
> > >> I understand this skepticism. But, I would
> > encourage us to
> > >> still try
> > >> to work with other organizations - yet, have
> our
> > goal
> > >> firmly planted
> > >> in our mind.
> > >> So, you might say that I "disagree," with
> that
> > portion of
> > >> the philosophy.
> > >> But, for me:
> > >> I am in the nfb because I want to help blind
> > people achieve
> > >> their
> > >> highest  potential.
> > >> I want to show us (I am not so worried about
> that
> > fickle
> > >> sighted
> > >> public) that We can live the life that we
> want.
> > >> We can be parents.
> > >> We can be professionals.
> > >> We can go on trips independently.
> > >> We can enjoy activities such as sports,
> games,
> > playing an
> > >> instrument,
> > >> picnics, etc.
> > >> We can worship as we choose.
> > >> We can go to college.
> > >> We can have a career.
> > >> We can live fulfilling lives full of all of
> the
> > events
> > >> that  are
> > >> present in the lives of the sighted.
> > >> That is why I am here.
> > >>
> > >> And, maybe that is what we can take to other
> > countries.
> > >> Thoughts?????
> > >>
> > >> There are organizations in other countries.
> > >> Does the world Blind Union have a listing of
> > these
> > >> organizations in
> > >> each country?
> > >> I have found some, but not many.
> > >> I thought that one thing that the World
> Blind
> > Union can do
> > >> is to
> > >> provide an international directory of
> > organizations and
> > >> services for
> > >> the blind.
> > >> It would also be nice if they could help with
> an
> > internet
> > >> site and
> > >> a bit of email.
> > >> Yes, I have seen the International Library
> Service
> > provide
> > >> a small
> > >> list, but it is out of date, I am positive.
> > >>
> > >> Blind corps, well, I will have to google
> this.
> > >> Do they only go to turkey?????
> > >>
> > >> I am sorry to hear about Robert Leslie
> Newman.
> > >> I  always enjoyed the thought provoker and
> hope
> > that
> > >> someday, a writer
> > >> takes it on.
> > >> Jan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 8/3/10, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > Hello James,
> > >> > First and for most welcome to the list.
> > >> > I like Hina ecco the value that people
> like
> > you and
> > >> Jan bring to
> > >> > international students and for blind
> > individuals in
> > >> under developed
> > >> > countries.
> > >> > During the Inter Cultural Exchange
> Committee
> > meeting,
> > >> Buna Dahal, one of the
> > >> > co-founders of Blind Core did a
> presentation
> > on Blind
> > >> Cor and as I mentioned
> > >> > to the group  sometime ago on the
> discussion
> > that
> > >> maybe this can be one of
> > >> > our adopted projects.
> > >> > I actually met the young lady from Japan
> whom
> > you were
> > >> refering to at the
> > >> > Travel and Tureism chapter meeting. To
> be
> > quite
> > >> honest, she provided me with
> > >> > her contact information and I
> accidently
> > deleted it so
> > >> if it would be
> > >> > possible for you to get her contact
> > information and
> > >> email me off list I
> > >> > would really appreciate it.
> > >> > This brings up another idea! Maybe we
> could
> > advertise
> > >> with the Travel and
> > >> > Tureism group and send out a flyer on
> their
> > list
> > >> serve. I am pretty sure
> > >> > there would be members in this group
> who
> > would love to
> > >> connect with
> > >> > international students and possibley do
> some
> > >> international development
> > >> > project.
> > >> > I am glad you brought the point about
> > starting a
> > >> special interest
> > >> > international division within NFB. I
> think we
> > would
> > >> have more supporters
> > >> > then not. As you mentioned that most
> people
> > would
> > >> enthusiastically support
> > >> > us and this is true and these people
> would
> > also bring
> > >> our group value. My
> > >> > vision is that our group  would consist
> of
> > >> international students, people
> > >> > who care deeply about international
> students
> > such as
> > >> yourself and Jan and
> > >> > Americans who are interested in travel
> abroad
> > eather
> > >> for studies or just
> > >> > travel or are interested in making
> > international
> > >> friends. I think we would
> > >> > also have alot of second generation US
> > citizens
> > >> meaning those who are
> > >> > naturalized  US citizens. I met a
> person
> > who was a
> > >> naturalized  US citizen
> > >> > but said he will always be international
> in
> > heart.
> > >> > In addition, we would have supportors
> who may
> > not
> > >> Necessarily  be active
> > >> > with our group,  but would be
> supportors 
> > of our
> > >> cause. As you mentioned,
> > >> > there will certainly be a few who would
> be
> > hostile to
> > >> our cause and
> > >> > existence but these will be few. One
> thing I
> > have
> > >> learned in more then 20
> > >> > years of living in the United States is
> that
> > people
> > >> who are hostile towards
> > >> > international students and people who
> are not
> > lucky
> > >> enough to be US citizens
> > >> > are usually the same people who hold
> negative
> > attitude
> > >> towards many things
> > >> > including blindness and are usually the
> > people who are
> > >> self serving meaning
> > >> > only think about what is best for them.
> I
> > have learned
> > >> through experience
> > >> > that it is best just to ignore these
> people.
> > >> > As you mentioned the benefit a
> organized
> > special
> > >> interest  group for us is
> > >> > that it would allow us to have a
> leadership
> > structure,
> > >> allow us to open up a
> > >> > bank account and allow us to rais
> funds.
> > >> > I like the idea of writing up a one page
> add
> > and
> > >> distribute it to various
> > >> > groups and anywhere else we may be able
> to
> > recruit. My
> > >> suggestion is that we
> > >> > have a conference call maybe as soon 
> as
> > this
> > >> weekend to discuss the content
> > >> > of the add and brainstorm of places
> where we
> > could
> > >> advertise. Any thoughts?
> > >> > Jim you brought up another advantage of
> our
> > group and
> > >> this list. Amazing how
> > >> > ideas pop up in one's mind! When you
> > mentioned that
> > >> you were Hina's pen-pal,
> > >> > it occured to me that this group would
> be
> > excellent
> > >> place to build pen-pal
> > >> > relationships with blind individuals in
> > other
> > >> countries. To be quite frank a
> > >> > teacher at the Arkansas School for the
> Blind
> > >> encouraged me to find a pen-pal
> > >> > but I was simply just to lazy to do it.
> This
> > were the
> > >> days of writing and
> > >> > mailing the letter before the days of
> email
> > and
> > >> internet. Amazing how
> > >> > technology has changed even with
> > communicating with
> > >> pen-pal!
> > >> > Anyways, Jim welcome to the list and
> please
> > give
> > >> Robbert Lesliy Newman our
> > >> > best regard and wish him speady 
> recovery.
> > >> >
> > >> > sincerely,
> > >> > Anmol
> > >> >
> > >> > I seldom think about my limitations, and
> they
> > never
> > >> make me sad. Perhaps
> > >> > there is just a touch of yearning at
> times;
> > but it is
> > >> vague, like a breeze
> > >> > among flowers.
> > >> > Hellen Keller
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --- On Mon, 8/2/10, James H. "Jim"
> Canaday
> > M.A. N6YR
> > >> <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> From: James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
> N6YR
> > <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> > >> >> Subject:
> [Blind-international-students]
> > >> introducing myself and comments on
> > >> >> your discussion
> > >> >> To: "Blind International Students
> Mailing
> > List"
> > >> >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > >> >> Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 7:53
> PM
> > >> >> Hello members of the Blind
> > >> >> Internationals nfb list;
> > >> >> I am Jim Canaday.  I am the
> president of
> > the
> > >> Jayhawk
> > >> >> chapter of the NFB of kansas, here
> in
> > Lawrence
> > >> (where Kansas
> > >> >> University is located).  I am also
> > active with
> > >> the
> > >> >> writers division of NFB.
> > >> >> I'll give more of an introduction
> later
> > down this
> > >> e-mail.
> > >> >> > I have been delighted that
> nfb 
> > supported
> > >> this effort
> > >> >> by providing the list for
> > internationals.  I
> > >> care
> > >> >> deeply about blind international
> students
> > who are
> > >> here in
> > >> >> the U.S.  I am also quite
> concerned
> > about
> > >> conditions
> > >> >> for most blind people in the
> world.  I
> > know very
> > >> well
> > >> >> in my heart that blind people have
> it
> > much better
> > >> here than
> > >> >> in most of the world and that means
> that
> > we have a
> > >> serious
> > >> >> responsibility.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Robert Leslie Newman, president of
> the
> > writers
> > >> division and
> > >> >> active member of Blind Corps is
> currently
> > in the
> > >> hospital,
> > >> >> he lives in nebraska.  he cares
> deeply
> > and works
> > >> >> diligently to bring the nfb
> philosophy
> > of
> > >> orientation and
> > >> >> mobility to other countries through
> blind
> > corps;
> > >> they
> > >> >> go teach the teachers primarily. 
> that 
> > way
> > >> other
> > >> >> countries can train their own blind
> > people.
> > >> >> also from nebraska is Fetos Floyd
> who
> > grew to
> > >> adulthood in
> > >> >> Turkey.  she is I believe the head
> of
> > the
> > >> nebraska
> > >> >> center for the blind where training
> takes
> > place
> > >> and she
> > >> >> participates in blind corps too.
> > >> >> robert and fetos and several others
> > recently
> > >> returned from
> > >> >> their second trip to turkey.  it
> seems
> > that the
> > >> program
> > >> >> in turkey is doing very well.  I
> believe
> > that all
> > >> of
> > >> >> the members of Blind Corps are
> members of
> > NFB.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I have communicated with officers of
> NABS
> > about
> > >> this group
> > >> >> recently, and several months ago. 
> there
> > is an
> > >> >> international grad student here in
> my
> > chapter and
> > >> I have
> > >> >> told her of this list.  I cannot
> tell
> > you why she
> > >> is
> > >> >> hesitant to join.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> it's really great to see the
> activity on
> > this list
> > >> increase
> > >> >> so much!   blind people often
> > experience
> > >> >> isolation.  I think that may often
> be
> > worse for
> > >> blind
> > >> >> international students who come here
> to
> > study.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> if I can give a little advice,
> > >> >> I believe that international
> students
> > and
> > >> internationals in
> > >> >> the U.S. should actually have their
> own
> > division
> > >> in
> > >> >> NFB.  you are at the beginning of
> this
> > process.
> > >> >> or you are at the beginning of
> becoming a
> > special
> > >> interest
> > >> >> group.  as a division you will get
> more
> > attention
> > >> and
> > >> >> have more impact on others.  it
> takes
> > time to
> > >> build a
> > >> >> group, organize and form a
> division. 
> > and your
> > >> >> experience is actually typical. 
> yes
> > some people
> > >> may be
> > >> >> put off by your being
> internationals, but
> > most
> > >> will
> > >> >> not.  some people  will be put off
> by
> > the fact
> > >> >> that I am from kansas, too.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Divisions start from the ground up
> most
> > often.
> > >> you
> > >> >> have taken steps  already like
> other
> > groups did:
> > >> >> forming communication within
> yourselves;
> > defining
> > >> your
> > >> >> identity and your interests; and
> forming
> > goals.
> > >> I hope
> > >> >> you might find in your hearts some
> > patience with
> > >> the rest of
> > >> >> us in the federation, as we are all
> human
> > too.
> > >> some of
> > >> >> us will enthusiastically work with
> > internationals,
> > >> many will
> > >> >> be shy or busy with other interests,
> and
> > a few
> > >> will be truly
> > >> >> hostile.  please don't let the few
> bad
> > people put
> > >> you
> > >> >> off.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> more advice.
> > >> >> maybe you all have done this but I
> have
> > not seen
> > >> it.
> > >> >> you are now in the stage of getting
> > interested
> > >> people
> > >> >> together for your organization.  a
> very
> > simple
> > >> thing
> > >> >> you can do in this is to write a
> direct
> > one page
> > >> >> statement.  your organization's
> > statement should
> > >> give
> > >> >> your tentative name, your e-mail
> list
> > info for
> > >> subscribing,
> > >> >> who you are, what your interests
> are, and
> > who you
> > >> are
> > >> >> looking for as new members.  and
> any
> > other
> > >> contact
> > >> >> information that would be useful. 
> your
> > statement
> > >> then
> > >> >> can be easily posted to groups, and
> > people can
> > >> forward it
> > >> >> along.  you will have a single 
> > presentation
> > >> that
> > >> >> you all have agreed on that
> represents
> > you.
> > >> your
> > >> >> statement also can go into the
> Braille
> > Monitor.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> to get this statement together, you
> need
> > to first
> > >> decide
> > >> >> what your goals and interests
> are. 
> > think of who
> > >> you
> > >> >> are looking for as potential
> members. 
> > and, you
> > >> can
> > >> >> consider how to put your group's
> > presentation
> > >> together from
> > >> >> those decisions.  I would not
> presume to
> > suggest
> > >> to you
> > >> >> what these should be.  but if you
> have a
> > unified
> > >> >> message, and one that is very
> easily
> > distributed,
> > >> it is very
> > >> >> powerful.  there are people you
> want in
> > your
> > >> group who
> > >> >> may have to hear about it two or
> more
> > times before
> > >> they
> > >> >> reach out to you.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I believe strongly in NFB, and I
> also
> > know that
> > >> >> internationals are wonderful people
> who
> > also teach
> > >> the rest
> > >> >> of us much.  so I very strongly
> hope
> > that you
> > >> will work
> > >> >> within NFB.  NFB has great
> resources you
> > will
> > >> find
> > >> >> helpful.  it also has a wonderful
> > network of
> > >> >> people.  NFB will be much better
> with
> > you in it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> though you do not have a formal
> > organization now,
> > >> it would
> > >> >> be worth investigating forming
> one. 
> > that way you
> > >> can
> > >> >> designate officers and have a bank
> > account.
> > >> also,
> > >> >> others will see you are serious by
> taking
> > these
> > >> >> steps.   again, many other
> divisions
> > and
> > >> >> special interest groups have done
> the
> > same
> > >> thing.  and
> > >> >> most started with very little if any
> push
> > or
> > >> support from
> > >> >> NFB national leadership.  there are
> at
> > least two
> > >> other
> > >> >> nfb groups I could participate with,
> but
> > I do not
> > >> have the
> > >> >> time or energy to join in with
> them.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> if you look at the writers division
> > website
> > >> >> www.nfb-writers-division.org
> > >> >> you will see that we have a very
> good
> > website.
> > >> this
> > >> >> is also provided by the national
> > organization.
> > >> but
> > >> >> they did not provide such things for
> the
> > writers
> > >> division
> > >> >> until it was organized and
> functioning.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> enough advice?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> *I am here because of Hina.  five
> years
> > and a
> > >> month
> > >> >> ago, I wrote to her in Pakistan, and
> I
> > was
> > >> incredibly
> > >> >> fortunate to be her pen pal.  she
> is a
> > dear
> > >> friend of
> > >> >> mine.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> the M.A. after my name is in
> clinical
> > psychology,
> > >> and I
> > >> >> completed the practicum as a
> student
> > >> >> therapist.   I earned the degree
> at
> > kansas
> > >> >> university in 1991, with no help
> from
> > kansas
> > >> >> university.  K.U. has a sad long
> history
> > of not
> > >> >> properly providing services for
> blind
> > students.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I grew up in rural central
> california so
> > I am
> > >> curious about
> > >> >> where Miso lives.  I was
> completely
> > blind from
> > >> age 13,
> > >> >> and partial before that.  my
> bachelor's
> > degree is
> > >> from
> > >> >> the university of california at
> davis.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I am married and have no children.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I hope I can help this group to grow
> and
> > >> flourish.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> jc
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At 04:48 PM 8/2/2010, you wrote:
> > >> >> > Hello,
> > >> >> > Jan if you will recall one of
> the
> > co-founders
> > >> of Blind
> > >> >> Core was from Turkey and is I
> believe the
> > director
> > >> of VR in
> > >> >> Nebraska. However, do not quote me
> on
> > this. I do
> > >> not agree
> > >> >> about bringing NFB philosophy to my
> > country but a
> > >> philosophy
> > >> >> which promotes possitive attitude
> about
> > blindness
> > >> and a can
> > >> >> do attitude. Just my two sense .
> > >> >> > Anmol
> > >> >> > I seldom think about my
> limitations,
> > and they
> > >> never
> > >> >> make me sad. Perhaps there is just
> a
> > touch of
> > >> yearning at
> > >> >> times; but it is vague, like a
> breeze
> > among
> > >> flowers.
> > >> >> > Hellen Keller
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > --- On Mon, 8/2/10,
> Reyazuddin,
> > Yasmin
> > >> >> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > From: Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > >> >> > > Subject: Re:
> > >> [Blind-international-students]
> > >> >> [Blind-international-students
> > introduction
> > >> >> > > To: "Blind International
> > Students
> > >> Mailing List"
> > >> >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > >> >> > > Date: Monday, August 2,
> 2010,
> > 3:42 PM
> > >> >> > > Hi Hena and all
> > >> >> > > Once again, we need to
> > communicate with
> > >> Ron Brown
> > >> >> and see
> > >> >> > > if he will support us.
> Also if
> > some of
> > >> you will
> > >> >> remember
> > >> >> > > there was a group of
> blind
> > >> federationists who
> > >> >> went to Turkey
> > >> >> > > to teach the blind
> > professionals there.
> > >> May be we
> > >> >> need to
> > >> >> > > talk with Robert Leslie
> Newman
> > from
> > >> Nebraska who
> > >> >> did the
> > >> >> > > program.
> > >> >> > > The NFB has send out
> people to
> > other
> > >> countries
> > >> >> for teaching
> > >> >> > > federation philosophy.
> > >> >> > > We who get trained here
> need to
> > go back
> > >> to our
> > >> >> home country
> > >> >> > > and take the federation
> to
> > people
> > >> there.
> > >> >> > > Yasmin Reyazuddin
> > >> >> > > Aging & Disability
> > services
> > >> >> > > Montgomery County
> Government
> > >> >> > > Department of Health
> &
> > human
> > >> Services
> > >> >> > > 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd
> > floor)
> > >> >> > > Rockville MD 20850
> > >> >> > > 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> > >> >> > > 240-777-1556 (personal)
> > >> >> > > 240-777-1495 (fax)
> > >> >> > > office hours 8:30 am 5:00
> pm
> > >> >> > > Languages English, Hindi,
> Urdu,
> > Braille
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > This message may contain
> > protected
> > >> health
> > >> >> information or
> > >> >> > > other information that is
> > confidential
> > >> or
> > >> >> privileged. If you
> > >> >> > > are not the intended
> recipient,
> > please
> > >> contact
> > >> >> the sender by
> > >> >> > > return mail and destroy
> any
> > copies of
> > >> this
> > >> >> material.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Thank you.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > -----Original
> Message-----
> > >> >> > > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >> >> > > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > >> >> > > On Behalf Of hina altaf
> > >> >> > > Sent: Monday, August 02,
> 2010
> > 4:18 PM
> > >> >> > > To: Blind International
> > Students Mailing
> > >> List
> > >> >> > > Subject: Re:
> > >> [Blind-international-students]
> > >> >> > >
> > >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > hi jan,
> > >> >> > >  yes that is why i
> started
> > this list
> > >> and had
> > >> >> philip help me
> > >> >> > > as co
> > >> >> > > founder. buna is on the
> list
> > but she
> > >> never said
> > >> >> anything.
> > >> >> > > she is a
> > >> >> > > wonderful person but i
> think if
> > she
> > >> wanted to do
> > >> >> anything
> > >> >> > > for this
> > >> >> > > list or international
> students,
> > she
> > >> would have
> > >> >> said
> > >> >> > > something by now
> > >> >> > > or before. but i am not
> sure
> > how to
> > >> respond to
> > >> >> this since
> > >> >> > > she never
> > >> >> > > spoke much in the list and
> i
> > know she
> > >> was in the
> > >> >> list since
> > >> >> > > she did
> > >> >> > > communicate with me long
> time
> > ago.
> > >> >> > > so that is my question,
> does
> > nfb
> > >> officials want
> > >> >> to get
> > >> >> > > involve with
> > >> >> > > helping internationals
> and
> > people in
> > >> under
> > >> >> developed
> > >> >> > > countries? that
> > >> >> > > is something i can not
> answer
> > and most
> > >> nfb
> > >> >> officials are
> > >> >> > > quiet on this
> > >> >> > > list and some don't even
> > respond.
> > >> >> > > hina.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > On 8/2/10, Reyazuddin,
> Yasmin
> > >> >> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > >> >> > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > > Hi Jan,
> > >> >> > > > Good observation.
> > >> >> > > > Most of the time the
> > international
> > >> people
> > >> >> are the
> > >> >> > > underserved as they are
> > >> >> > > > (we are) not included
> in
> > or
> > >> promoted other
> > >> >> than being
> > >> >> > > a member.
> > >> >> > > > If we move forward
> and
> > become
> > >> leaders other
> > >> >> (majority)
> > >> >> > > do not like it. I
> > >> >> > > > know it from my
> personal
> > >> experience.
> > >> >> > > > I have to thank the
> > scholarship
> > >> committee
> > >> >> this year as
> > >> >> > > there were many
> > >> >> > > > international
> students who
> > won the
> > >> >> scholarships. If we
> > >> >> > > could have the
> > >> >> > > > students participate
> and
> > become
> > >> leaders in
> > >> >> their own
> > >> >> > > communities we will not
> > >> >> > > > be underserved or
> > impoverished.
> > >> >> > > > Yasmin Reyazuddin
> > >> >> > > > Aging &
> Disability
> > services
> > >> >> > > > Montgomery County
> > Government
> > >> >> > > > Department of Health
> &
> > human
> > >> Services
> > >> >> > > > 401 Hungerford Drive
> (3rd
> > floor)
> > >> >> > > > Rockville MD 20850
> > >> >> > > > 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> > >> >> > > > 240-777-1556
> (personal)
> > >> >> > > > 240-777-1495 (fax)
> > >> >> > > > office hours 8:30 am
> 5:00
> > pm
> > >> >> > > > Languages English,
> Hindi,
> > Urdu,
> > >> Braille
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > This message may
> contain
> > protected
> > >> health
> > >> >> information
> > >> >> > > or other information
> > >> >> > > > that is confidential
> or
> > privileged.
> > >> If you
> > >> >> are not the
> > >> >> > > intended recipient,
> > >> >> > > > please contact the
> sender
> > by return
> > >> mail and
> > >> >> destroy
> > >> >> > > any copies of this
> > >> >> > > > material.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > Thank you.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > -----Original
> > Message-----
> > >> >> > > > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >> >> > > > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > >> >> > > On Behalf Of jan
> > >> >> > > > wright
> > >> >> > > > Sent: Monday, August
> 02,
> > 2010 3:52
> > >> PM
> > >> >> > > > To: Blind
> International
> > Students
> > >> Mailing
> > >> >> List
> > >> >> > > > Subject: Re:
> > >> [Blind-international-students]
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > Hi Yasmin,
> > >> >> > > > That is an
> interesting
> > thought.
> > >> >> > > > I know Ron and I am
> sure
> > that he
> > >> would be
> > >> >> open to the
> > >> >> > > idea.
> > >> >> > > > My only question is:
> > >> >> > > > Since
> > "underserved,"   has a
> > >> >> broader
> > >> >> > > application than
> > "international
> > >> >> > > > students," do you
> think
> > that the
> > >> >> international
> > >> >> > > community will be ....
> > >> >> > > > .... last to receive
> > support?
> > >> >> > > > Just a question.
> > >> >> > > > Honestly, I am not
> > certain, but it
> > >> doesn't
> > >> >> seem that
> > >> >> > > this group is
> > >> >> > > > getting much notice
> in the
> > NFB, as
> > >> it is.
> > >> >> > > > Anmol had some great
> > ideas!
> > >> >> > > > We should not let
> them
> > pass as
> > >> ideas only.
> > >> >> > > > Jan
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > On 8/2/10, hina
> altaf
> > <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >> what is the goal
> of
> > that group
> > >> yasmin?
> > >> >> we can do
> > >> >> > > it but i would like
> > >> >> > > >> to know more
> about
> > that group
> > >> first. and
> > >> >> then you
> > >> >> > > can send the email.
> > >> >> > > >> how is it going
> to
> > help us in
> > >> starting a
> > >> >> project
> > >> >> > > to help people in
> > >> >> > > >> under developed
> > countries?
> > >> thanks.
> > >> >> hina.
> > >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> > > >> On 8/2/10,
> Reyazuddin,
> > Yasmin
> > >> >> > > >> <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > >> >> > > >> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>> Hi Hena, and
> all:
> > >> >> > > >>> I will
> suggest
> > that we
> > >> consider
> > >> >> combining two
> > >> >> > > groups into one and
> getting
> > >> >> > > >>> what we need.
> The
> > cultural
> > >> exchange
> > >> >> group
> > >> >> > > should join forces with
> the
> > >> >> > > >>> committee to
> > empower
> > >> underserved
> > >> >> population.
> > >> >> > > >>> The goals
> are
> > similar and
> > >> then we
> > >> >> will also
> > >> >> > > have the support of the
> > >> >> > > >>> national
> > >> >> > > >>> office. I
> can
> > start the
> > >> process by
> > >> >> sending an
> > >> >> > > email to Ron Brown who is
> > >> >> > > >>> the
> > >> >> > > >>> president of
> > Indiana.
> > >> >> > > >>> We have a
> meeting
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> > >> >> > > >>> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > >> >> > > On Behalf Of
> > >> >> > > >>> hina
> > >> >> > > >>> altaf
> > >> >> > > >>> Sent:
> Monday,
> > August 02,
> > >> 2010 1:38
> > >> >> PM
> > >> >> > > >>> To: Blind
> > International
> > >> Students
> > >> >> Mailing List
> > >> >> > > >>> Subject: Re:
> > >> >> > > >>>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
> [Blind-international-students][Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > >> >> > > >>>
> > >> >> > > >>> hi anmol,
> > >> >> > > >>>  i agree
> with you
> > and
> > >> that's
> > >> >> what we
> > >> >> > > tried last year without
> much
> > >> >> > > >>> success. i
> think
> > on this
> > >> issue i
> > >> >> need to talk
> > >> >> > > to you either on the
> > >> >> > > >>> phone or
> online.
> > there are
> > >> a lot of
> > >> >> issues and
> > >> >> > > things that i don't
> > >> >> > > >>> feel
> comfortable
> > discussing
> > >> on nfb
> > >> >> mailing
> > >> >> > > list due to some reasons
> > >> >> > > >>> which i think
> we
> > can talk
> > >> off list.
> > >> >> > > >>> hina.
> > >> >> > > >>>
> > >> >> > > >>> On 8/2/10,
> Anmol
> > Bhatia
> > >> <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> > >> >> > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>>> Hello Jan
> and
> > Hina,
> > >> >> > > >>>> Due to
> reasons
> > which I
> > >> do not
> > >> >> want to
> > >> >> > > mention on the list I do
> not
> > think
> > >> >> > > >>>> our
> > >> >> > > >>>> list
> would get
> > much
> > >> >> advertisement from the
> > >> >> > > NFB officials. So this
> means
> > >> >> > > >>>> that
> > >> >> > > >>>> more
> then
> > likely we
> > >> will have to
> > >> >> self
> > >> >> > > advertise. Personally I
> have
> > been
> > >> >> > > >>>>
> advertising
> > through
> > >> word of
> > >> >> mouth telling
> > >> >> > > my friends or anyone who
> may
> > >> >> > > >>>> be
> > >> >> > > >>>>
> interested in
> > joining
> > >> or is
> > >> >> interested in
> > >> >> > > international issues.
> Also
> > >> >> > > >>>> maybe
> > >> >> > > >>>> someone
> can
> > write a
> > >> article for
> > >> >> Mobility
> > >> >> > > International USA (MIUSA)
> > >> >> > > >>>>
> www.miusa.org
> > >> >> > > >>>> and it
> would
> > be
> > >> published on
> > >> >> their
> > >> >> > > webcite. It is a
> non-profit
> > >> >> > > >>>>
> organization
> > >> >> > > >>>> which
> works
> > on
> > >> international
> > >> >> development
> > >> >> > > for people with
> disabilities
> > in
> > >> >> > > >>>> other
> > countries and
> > >> also
> > >> >> promotes
> > >> >> > > international travel for
> > individuals
> > >> >> > > >>>> with
> > >> >> > > >>>>
> disabilities.
> > Some
> > >> things they
> > >> >> do is to
> > >> >> > > promote study abroad
> > >> >> > > >>>>
> opportunities
> > >> >> > > >>>> for
> students
> > with
> > >> disabilities
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> > > leadership trainings for
> > individuals
> > >> >> > > >>>> with
> > >> >> > > >>>>
> disabilities.
> > I would
> > >> encourage
> > >> >> you to
> > >> >> > > visit their webcite and
> maybe
> > >> >> > > >>>> sign
> > >> >> > > >>>> up
> > >> >> > > >>>> for their
> news
> > letter.
> > >> >> > > >>>> Also we
> may
> > want to
> > >> consider
> > >> >> sending a
> > >> >> > > blerb to various list
> serves
> > that
> > >> >> > > >>>> we
> > >> >> > > >>>> are on to
> let
> > people
> > >> know that
> > >> >> there is a
> > >> >> > > list serve for
> international
> > >> >> > > >>>> students
> and
> > for anyone
> > >> who
> > >> >> wants to
> > >> >> > > communicate with
> international
> > >> >> > > >>>> students
> > >> >> > > >>>> or is
> > interested in
> > >> learning
> > >> >> about study
> > >> >> > > abroad or volunteer
> > >> >> > > >>>>
> opportunities
> > >> >> > > >>>> abroad.
> Also
> > someone
> > >> could write
> > >> >> a article
> > >> >> > > for the Student Slate (a
> news
> > >> >> > > >>>> letter
> > sponsored by the
> > >> NABS "a
> > >> >> student
> > >> >> > > chapter of the NFB")
> September
> > >> >> > > >>>> issue. I
> > would
> > >> volunteer to do
> > >> >> this but I
> > >> >> > > am already writing couple
> of
> > >> >> > > >>>> articles
> so it
> > may be a
> > >> bit to
> > >> >> much.
> > >> >> > > >>>> The list
> is on
> > the NFB
> > >> >> discussion list.
> > >> >> > > Infact  thats how I
> learned
> > >> >> > > >>>> about
> > >> >> > > >>>> it, but
> most
> > people do
> > >> not think
> > >> >> about
> > >> >> > > going to the discussion
> list
> > page
> > >> >> > > >>>> and
> > >> >> > > >>>> therefore
> are
> > not aware
> > >> of it.
> > >> >> > > >>>> Also I
> think
> > having
> > >> regular
> > >> >> conference
> > >> >> > > calls and some fun
> activities
> > >> >> > > >>>> will
> > >> >> > > >>>> help
> generate
> > interest
> > >> in the
> > >> >> group.
> > >> >> > > >>>> Just
> some
> > thoughts.
> > >> >> > > >>>> Anmol
> > >> >> > > >>>> I seldom
> think
> > about
> > >> my
> > >> >> limitations, and
> > >> >> > > they never make me sad.
> > Perhaps
> > >> >> > > >>>> there is
> just
> > a touch
> > >> of
> > >> >> yearning at
> > >> >> > > times; but it is vague,
> like a
> > >> >> > > >>>> breeze
> > >> >> > > >>>> among
> > flowers.
> > >> >> > > >>>> Hellen
> Keller
> > >> >> > > >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>> --- On
> Mon,
> > 8/2/10,
> > >> hina altaf
> > >> >> <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>> From:
> hina
> > altaf
> > >> <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> Subject:
> > Re:
> > >> >> > >
> [Blind-international-students]
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > >> >> > > >>>>> To:
> > "Blind
> > >> International
> > >> >> Students
> > >> >> > > Mailing List"
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> Date:
> > Monday,
> > >> August 2,
> > >> >> 2010, 12:03
> > >> >> > > PM
> > >> >> > > >>>>> i
> > contacted Diane
> > >> >> McGeorge  last
> > >> >> > > >>>>> year
> as
> > well about
> > >> our group
> > >> >> but
> > >> >> > > >>>>> never
> got
> > any
> > >> reply. well
> > >> >> where do you
> > >> >> > > want to advertise
> > >> >> > > >>>>> the
> > group?
> > >> >> > > >>>>> last
> year
> > i and
> > >> philip got
> > >> >> an offer to
> > >> >> > > do a radio show
> > >> >> > > >>>>> about
> our
> > group
> > >> >> > > >>>>> but
> we did
> > not do
> > >> due to
> > >> >> some reason
> > >> >> > > that we discussed off
> > >> >> > > >>>>> list.
> but
> > >> >> > > >>>>> that
> is
> > something
> > >> we could
> > >> >> still
> > >> >> > > consider. hina.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>> On
> 8/2/10,
> > jan
> > >> wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> Hi
> > Anmol,
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> Tell
> > us about
> > >> the
> > >> >> conference in
> > >> >> > > DC.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> That
> > sounds
> > >> >> interesting.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> Yes,
> > I forgot
> > >> about the
> > >> >> world
> > >> >> > > Blind Union.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> I
> > went to
> > >> their site in
> > >> >> hopes to
> > >> >> > > join: but I am not
> > >> >> > > >>>>> part
> of
> > an
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> > organization
> > >> and I
> > >> >> think that you
> > >> >> > > have to have lots of
> > >> >> > > >>>>> money
> to
> > join.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> Or,
> > you have
> > >> to be part
> > >> >> of a
> > >> >> > > blindness organization.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> Well,
> > Anmol, I
> > >> forgot
> > >> >> about the
> > >> >> > > blind corps also.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> I
> > found this
> > >> quite
> > >> >> interesting.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> I'd
> > like to
> > >> know more
> > >> >> about it
> > >> >> > > and if we could
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> contribute
> > in some
> > >> type of
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> way.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> Yes,
> > I would
> > >> be willing
> > >> >> to hear
> > >> >> > > this woman speak on a
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> conference
> > call.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> I
> > have a
> > >> meeting on
> > >> >> Tuesday, but
> > >> >> > > the other days are
> > >> >> > > >>>>> free
> for
> > me.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> I
> > have emailed
> > >> Diane
> > >> >> McGeorge
> > >> >> > > about this group and she
> > >> >> > > >>>>> has
> not
> > gotten
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> back
> > with me.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> So, I
> > guess we
> > >> will
> > >> >> have to
> > >> >> > > advertise ourselves.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> If we
> > can get
> > >> a good
> > >> >> description
> > >> >> > > about our group
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > together,  then
> > >> we
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> can
> > send it to
> > >> our
> > >> >> divisions and
> > >> >> > > state presidents for
> > >> >> > > >>>>> them
> to
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> > distribute.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> Hey,
> > Hina, you
> > >> are
> > >> >> moderator of
> > >> >> > > the group:
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> What
> > do you
> > >> think?
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> I
> > don't know,
> > >> any
> > >> >> thoughts?
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> > >> >> > > >>>>> >
> On
> > 8/2/10,
> > >> Imran Ahmed
> > >> >> <imran.altaf at gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> >>
> > What
> > >> platform are
> > >> >> you using
> > >> >> > > to host the conference
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> calls?
> > Please
> > >> share
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> >>
> > the
> > >> necessary
> > >> >> details so that
> > >> >> > > all who are
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > interested, can
> > >> participate
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> >>
> > in the
> > >> conference
> > >> >> call.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> >>
> > Imran.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> >>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> >>
> > On 8/2/10,
> > >> hina
> > >> >> altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>> hi
> > >> anmol,
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>  yes
> > >> that
> > >> >> is great idea
> > >> >> > > to involve more
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> people an
> > d
> > >> organizations
> > >> >> who
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>> might
> > >> be
> > >> >> interested to
> > >> >> > > help people from under
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> developed
> > >> countries.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>> buna
> > >> is also on
> > >> >> the list,
> > >> >> > > i met her last year
> > >> >> > > >>>>> and
> she is
> > a very
> > >> nice
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>> lady
> > >> who is
> > >> >> very
> > >> >> > > successfull in overcoming
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> challenges
> > that she
> > >> had
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>> being
> > >> someone
> > >> >> from under
> > >> >> > > developed countries.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> how
> did
> > your
> > >> conference
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>> go? i
> > >> wish i
> > >> >> could have
> > >> >> > > been able to make it
> > >> >> > > >>>>> but
> due to
> > some
> > >> issues i
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>> was
> > >> not able to
> > >> >> attend
> > >> >> > > although i qualified.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> also
> i
> > think we
> > >> should
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>> focuss
> > >> on
> > >> >> starting one
> > >> >> > > project at a time and
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> discuss
> > first what
> > >> we
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>> want
> > >> to do. but
> > >> >> i will be
> > >> >> > > interested in
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> conference
> > call and
> > >> if we
> > >> >> can
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>> get
> > >> some ideas
> > >> >> from the
> > >> >> > > members as well as
> > >> >> > > >>>>> from
> some
> > people
> > >> who are
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > >> already serving
> > >> >> under
> > >> >> > > developed countries in
> > >> >> > > >>>>> some
> ways.
> > thanks.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>> hina
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>> On
> > >> 8/1/10,
> > >> >> Anmol Bhatia
> > >> >> > > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> Hello Jan
> > >> >> and all,
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> Sorry it
> > >> >> has taken me
> > >> >> > > a while to respond.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> I was
> in
> > Washington
> > >> D.C.
> > >> >> last
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> week
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> for the
> > >> >> National
> > >> >> > > Council on Disability
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> Summit and
> > got kind
> > >> of busy
> > >> >> since
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> returning.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> Jan you did
> > >> >> pretty
> > >> >> > > good job summarizing
> > >> >> > > >>>>> what
> > happened at
> > >> the
> > >> >> meeting,
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> but
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> you for got
> > >> >> about the
> > >> >> > > World Blind Union.
> > >> >> > > >>>>> Dr.
> > Shroder (NFB's
> > >> first
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> >> vice-president) who
> > >> >> > > is active in the World
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> Blind
> > Union told us
> > >> about
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> World Blind
> > >> >> Union and
> > >> >> > > what it does. Also
> > >> >> > > >>>>> Buna
> Dahal
> > told us
> > >> about
> > >> >> her
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> experience
> > >> >> about
> > >> >> > > growing in Nepal as the
> > >> >> > > >>>>> only
> > person in her
> > >> family
> > >> >> who
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> is
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> blind and
> > >> >> some of the
> > >> >> > > challenges she
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> faced. She
> > also
> > >> told us
> > >> >> about the
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> Blind
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> Core (like
> > >> >> the Peace
> > >> >> > > Core) except a
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > organization which
> > >> serves
> > >> >> blind
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> people.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> Perhaps
> > >> >> this can be
> > >> >> > > one of our adopted
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> project
> > that we as
> > >> a group
> > >> >> of
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> interested
> > >> >> > > Federationest who are
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> interested
> > in help
> > >> blind
> > >> >> kids in less
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> developed
> > >> >> countries
> > >> >> > > can work with. Also
> > >> >> > > >>>>> last
> week
> > I met a
> > >> lady who
> > >> >> is
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> doing
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> some work
> > >> >> in
> > >> >> > > Ecuador to train and
> assist
> > >> >> > > >>>>> the
> > disabled
> > >> population
> > >> >> there.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>> I
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> am
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> thinking
> > >> >> about
> > >> >> > > holding a conference call
> > >> >> > > >>>>> next
> > weekend so
> > >> that the
> > >> >> lady
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> who
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>> I
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> met can
> > >> >> tell us about
> > >> >> > > her work and what
> > >> >> > > >>>>> she
> does.
> > If I held
> > >> a
> > >> >> conference
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> call would
> > >> >> you
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> >> attend?
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> Also Jan I
> > >> >> actually
> > >> >> > > thought about this
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> mailing
> > list at the
> > >> meeting,
> > >> >> but
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>> be
> > >> quit
> > >> >> frank I felt
> > >> >> > > that I was hogging
> > >> >> > > >>>>> the
> > discussione so
> > >> decided
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> keep
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>> my
> > >> mouth
> > >> >> shut. But I
> > >> >> > > wish I would have
> > >> >> > > >>>>> said
> > something or
> > >> atleast
> > >> >> got
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> everyone's
> > >> >> email
> > >> >> > > address so that we could
> > >> >> > > >>>>> have
> > formed some
> > >> sort of
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> >> communication.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> Anmol
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>> I
> > >> seldom
> > >> >> think about
> > >> >> > > my limitations, and
> > >> >> > > >>>>> they
> never
> > make me
> > >> sad.
> > >> >> Perhaps
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> there is
> > >> >> just a touch
> > >> >> > > of yearning at
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> times; but
> > it is
> > >> vague, like
> > >> >> a
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> breeze
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> among
> > >> >> flowers.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> Hellen
> > >> >> Keller
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> --- On Sat,
> > >> >> 7/24/10,
> > >> >> > > jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> From:
> > >> >> jan wright
> > >> >> > > <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> Subject: Re:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >> [Blind-international-students]
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> To:
> > >> >> "Blind
> > >> >> > > International Students
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> Mailing
> > List"
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Date:
> > >> >> Saturday,
> > >> >> > > July 24, 2010, 6:43
> > >> >> > > >>>>> PM
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Hi
> > >> >> All,
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> I will
> > >> >> give a
> > >> >> > > summary of what went on
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> during the
> > meeting
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> (as it
> > >> >> refers
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> to this
> > >> >> list or
> > >> >> > > things that we can do
> > >> >> > > >>>>> on
> our
> > own).
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Please,
> > >> >> Anmol,
> > >> >> > > chime in if I either
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> forget
> > something
> > >> or
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> present
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> something
> > >> >> > > incorrectly.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> We
> > >> >> discussed
> > >> >> > > making books more
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> accessible
> > for
> > >> those who do
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> not
> > >> >> live in the
> > >> >> > > USA.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> We all
> > >> >> know about
> > >> >> > > the strict laws of
> > >> >> > > >>>>> the
> > Library of
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> Congress and
> > >> >> > > NLS.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> There
> > >> >> was some
> > >> >> > > discussion about the
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> library
> > in
> > >> Australia
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> and how
> > >> >> they
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> were
> > >> >> trying to
> > >> >> > > help others have access
> > >> >> > > >>>>> to
> both
> > braille
> > >> (at
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> least
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> technical
> > >> >> > > braille) and audio books.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> But,
> > >> >> there were
> > >> >> > > no suggestions as to
> > >> >> > > >>>>> how
> we
> > might
> > >> assist
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> the
> > >> >> process.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> We
> > >> >> talked about
> > >> >> > > sending items abroad.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Some
> > >> >> people
> > >> >> > > wanted to have a drive to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> collect
> > equipment
> > >> or
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> products
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> for the
> > >> >> blind and
> > >> >> > > send them to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > developing
> > >> countries.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> There
> > >> >> was some
> > >> >> > > discussion about the
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> postal
> > fees.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> Apparently these
> > >> >> > > fees have hindered
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> people
> > from
> > >> sending
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> large
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> quantities of
> > >> >> > > products to other
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > countries.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> It was
> > >> >> suggested
> > >> >> > > that if we want to
> > >> >> > > >>>>> try
> to get
> > products
> > >> to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> send
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> other
> > >> >> countries:
> > >> >> > > we do it
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > individually, not
> > >> >> collectively.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> That
> > >> >> was about
> > >> >> > > the scope of the
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> meeting,
> > as it
> > >> pertained to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> us
> > >> >> taking
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> action
> > >> >> in some
> > >> >> > > sort of way.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Anmol,
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Did I
> > >> >> forget
> > >> >> > > anything?
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Jan
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> On
> > >> >> 7/24/10,
> > >> >> > > Philip So <philipso101 at gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> >
> > >> >> This sounds
> > >> >> > > interesting.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> > I
> > >> >> agree with
> > >> >> > > Imran that since the
> > >> >> > > >>>>> group
> is
> > small, we
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> could
> > >> >> start with
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> >
> > >> >> one project
> > >> >> > > first.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> >
> > >> >> Phil
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> >
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> >
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> > On
> > >> >> 7/24/10,
> > >> >> > > Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> hi jan,
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> that
> > >> >> > > is great. hope we
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > accomplish
> > >> something.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> hina.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> -----
> > >> >> > > Original Message -----
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> From:
> > >> >> > > "jan wright" <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> To:
> > >> >> > > "Blind International
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> Students
> > Mailing
> > >> List"
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> Sent:
> > >> >> > > Saturday, July 24, 2010
> > >> >> > > >>>>> 1:28
> PM
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> Subject:
> > >> >> > > Re:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
> [Blind-international-students][Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> Hi
> > >> >> > > Hina,
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> Thanks!
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> If I
> > >> >> > > don't see it on our
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > presidents' list,
> > >> we
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> might
> > >> >> have to
> > >> >> > > just start
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> posting
> > >> >> > > a blurb about it
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > ourselves.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> Jan
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >> On
> > >> >> > > 7/24/10, Carly Mihalakis
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> <carlymih at earthlink.net>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>> Hi,
> > >> >> > > Anmol,
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > Wasn't at the convention
> > >> >> > > >>>>> so
> was not
> > at the
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> meeting
> > >> >> in which
> > >> >> > > the
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > future of this List was
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> discussed.
> > However,
> > >> if
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> I may I
> > >> >> hope to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > suggest some things I
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> believe
> > could
> > >> cloud
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> perceptions while
> > >> >> > > setting
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > global policies across
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> cultures
> > of other
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> peoples
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> > > social fabrics.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>> It
> > >> >> > > seems to me that a
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> group's
> > cultural
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> identity ought to
> > >> >> > > be kept
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > close in mind
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >> while   seeking
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> to set
> > >> >> universal
> > >> >> > > policy and such.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>> It
> > >> >> > > may be important to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> consider
> > that, one
> > >> size
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> does
> > >> >> not fit all
> > >> >> > > in
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > matters of cultural
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > practices.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>> C.
> > >> >> > > discussed ways to
> > >> >> > > >>>>> help
> blind
> > people
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> in
> > >> >> developing
> > >> >> > > countries and
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > maybe making the
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> committee
> > more
> > >> active so I
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> was
> > >> >> thinking
> > >> >> > > perhaps this
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > could be driving force
> > >> >> > > >>>>> that
> can
> > make it
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> happen.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>Any
> thoughts?
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>Anmol
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>I
> > >> >> > > seldom think about
> > >> >> > > >>>>> my
> > limitations,
> > >> and
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> they
> > >> >> never make
> > >> >> > > me sad.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>Perhaps
> there
> > is just
> > >> >> > > >>>>> a
> touch
> > of
> > >> yearning
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> at
> > >> >> times; but it
> > >> >> > > is vague,
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>like a
> breeze
> > among
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> flowers.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>Hellen
> Keller
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>--- On
> Fri,
> > 7/23/10,
> > >> >> > > >>>>> Hina
> > <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > From: Hina
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > Subject: Re:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > >
> [Blind-international-students]
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > To: "Blind
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > International
> > >> Students
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Mailing
> > >> >> List"
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > Date: Friday,
> > >> >> > > >>>>> July
> 23,
> > 2010, 7:16
> > >> PM
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > hi anmol,
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > that is a great
> > >> >> > > >>>>> idea
> to
> > turn it
> > >> into
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> a
> > >> >> discussion list
> > >> >> > > to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > discuss
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> disability
> > related
> > >> issues.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> maybe
> > >> >> someday we
> > >> >> > > all
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > could  get
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> together
> > and  do
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> something like
> > >> >> > > that.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > ----- Original
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> Message
> > -----
> > >> From:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> "Anmol
> > >> >> Bhatia"
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > To: "Blind
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > International
> > >> Students
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Mailing
> > >> >> List"
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > Sent: Friday,
> > >> >> > > >>>>> July
> 23,
> > 2010 6:59
> > >> PM
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > Subject: Re:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > >
> [Blind-international-students]
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > Hi jan,
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > Wellcome to the
> > >> >> > > >>>>> list.
> I
> > believe I
> > >> am
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> the guy
> > >> >> from
> > >> >> > > India who
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > you met at the
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > Intercultural
> > >> exchange
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> meeting. It
> > >> >> > > occured to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > me later that
> > >> >> > > >>>>> this
> group
> > would be
> > >> a
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> good
> > >> >> resource for
> > >> >> > > anyone
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > interested in
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > communicating with
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> international
> > >> >> > > students and
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > maybe we could
> > >> >> > > >>>>> even
> use
> > it to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> implement some
> > >> >> > > international
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > development
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> projects
> > some of
> > >> which we
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> discussed in the
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > meeting. Perhaps
> > >> >> > > >>>>> this
> can
> > become
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> mailing
> > >> >> list for
> > >> >> > > the
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > Intercultural
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> exchange
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> committee. I
> > >> >> > > really found the
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > discussion about
> > >> >> > > >>>>> Blind
> Core
> > really
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> interesting and
> > >> >> > > one day I
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > would love to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> attend the
> > World
> > >> Blind
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Union.
> > >> >> Someone
> > >> >> > > had
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > suggest to me
> > >> >> > > >>>>> that
> > perhaps we
> > >> can
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> have
> > >> >> an
> > >> >> > > international
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > table at the
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> bankquit
> > but
> > >> frankly
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> things
> > >> >> were so
> > >> >> > > busy I did
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > not even have
> > >> >> > > >>>>> the
> time
> > to visit
> > >> with
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> this
> > >> >> person.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > To answer your
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> question,
> > I do not
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> mind
> > >> >> answering
> > >> >> > > any
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > question about
> > >> >> > > >>>>> my
> country
> > or my
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> experience or my
> > >> >> > > culture or
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > religion. That
> > >> >> > > >>>>> is
> how a
> > person
> > >> can
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> learn.
> > >> >> So feel
> > >> >> > > free to
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > ask me any
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > questions.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > Anmol
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > I seldom think
> > >> >> > > >>>>> about
> my
> > >> limitations,
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> and
> > >> >> they never
> > >> >> > > make me
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > sad. Perhaps
> > >> >> > > >>>>> there
> is
> > just a
> > >> touch of
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> yearning at
> > >> >> > > times; but
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > it is vague,
> > >> >> > > >>>>> like
> a
> > breeze
> > >> among
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> flowers.
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > Hellen Keller
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > --- On Fri,
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> 7/23/10,
> > jan
> > >> wright
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> > > > > From: jan
> > >> >> > > >>>>>
> wright
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