[Blind-international-students] meeting minutes
Carly Mihalakis
carlymih at earthlink.net
Wed Oct 27 15:24:42 UTC 2010
Good morning, Hina,
The USPS ought to know about shipping overseas.
Free matter does stand when shpping to other countries, in my experience.
At 07:58 AM 10/27/2010, hina altaf wrote:
>well i think it is possible, i know
>organizations send equipments all the time. i
>used to have a friend who always sent big boxes
>of books and used equipments to other countries.
>this is something we can check into with US
>postal service. if it is free matters for the
>blind sent from here, i don't think any other
>country will have an issue with it. most
>countries do allow that and we have done it in
>pakistan as well. i am not sure who to contact,
>but i will try to find out. if it is sent on the
>name and address of the intended person, i don't
>see any reason that they did not get it. i have
>recieved things and many others in other
>countries. it took months to arrive but things
>most offten did. few boxes of books got lost but
>that's it. we can work on this if anyone has any
>ideas who should we contact? hina. On 10/27/10,
>Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com> wrote: > I
>think the braille writer would meet the waight
>limit, but how much would > it cost? This summer
>at the Friends of the International committee
>meeting > one problem that Dr. Shroder mentioned
>which oftens comes up when sending > equipment
>oversease is that the cost of shipping the
>equipment is sometimes > more then the equipment
>itself. Plus we will have to see what are the >
>restructions in the country where we are sending
>the braille writer and if > we shiped it will it
>get to the proper person? Many times it does
>not. These > are just somethings we have to
>consider. > Anmol > > I seldom think about my
>limitations, and they never make me sad.
>Perhaps > there is just a touch of yearning at
>times; but it is vague, like a breeze > among
>flowers. > Hellen Keller > > > --- On Wed,
>10/27/10, hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>wrote: > >> From: hina altaf
><hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com> >> Subject: Re:
>[Blind-international-students] meeting
>minutes >> To: info at causesforchange.org, "Blind
>International Students Mailing List" >>
><blind-international-students at nfbnet.org> >>
>Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 9:35 AM >> hi
>zully, >> I sent your braille writer request to
>sightexchange and i >> hope someone >> will
>respond to our request for a braille writer. but
>maybe >> we can >> talk to mail department to
>allow us to send equipment for >> free sent >>
>through causis for change international to any
>where in the >> world. i >> know the postal
>service has a weight limit, but since this >> is
>going to >> be shipped by an organization we can
>talk to the postal >> service to >> lift
>this weight requirement. thanks. >>
>hina. >> >> On 10/27/10, Info
><info at causesforchange.org> >> wrote: >> > Thank
>you Anmol, you stated things very well. It is >>
>about partnership, >> > collaboration, and
>strenthening each others vision and >>
>mission. >> > I appreciate the tip about the
>weight of the braille >> writer. >> > Sent from
>Zully >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> >
>From: Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com> >> >
>Sender:
>blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org >
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 05:48:50 >> > To:
>Blind International Students Mailing >> >
>List<blind-international-students at nfbnet.org> >>
> > Reply-To: Blind International Students
>Mailing List >> > Â Â
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><blind-international-students at nfbnet.org> >> >
>Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
>meeting >> minutes >> > >> > Hello my fellow
>blind international students, >> > Sorry for my
>slow in providing response to some of the >>
>discussion that we >> > have going on this list,
>but I think we have a >> positive vision going
>and I >> > think we will have some good
>contribution to the blind >> community in
>America >> > and world as well as some positive
>contribution to the >> disability community >> >
>in the United States and world wide. >> > Jan,
>you presented some some good points both pro
>and >> cons with us joining >> > with Causes for
>Changes and during our last meeting I >>
>somewhat provided some >> > of the thoughts on
>what I am thinking. >> > But let me provide my
>thoughts in greater detail: >> > Generally when
>I am thinking about doing any project >>
>wheather it be for >> > non-profit or
>for-profit, I like to use the step by >> step
>process that I was >> > tought when writing a
>proposal: >> >    What is it that I or my
>group or >> organization wants to do? >> > Â
>Â Â Who are the people that will be >> involved
>and who are the people who will >> >
>benefit? >> >    What are the pros and
>what are >> the the cons of the project? >> >
>   How much if any would be the >> cost
>if we did the project? >> >    Is there
>anyone or any other >> group or organization who
>is doing the >> > samething or related
>thing? >> >    If so would it be possible
>for >> my group to eather join or partner
>with >> > that organization or group to carry
>out the project? >> >    Finally what is
>the outcome that >> we want to achieve? >> > I
>think we need to keep this in mind as we are >>
>thinking of what are some of >> > the projects
>that we want to do and who we want to >> work
>with. >> > This step by step process will also
>help us in >> applying for the Paul G. Hern >> >
>award. >> > Now to answer to some of the
>previous discussion: >> > Last time Hina you
>suggested that one project that >> Blind
>International could >> > do is to create a
>distance learning program for blind >> students
>living in >> > other countries. >> > I mentioned
>that the Hadley School already has a >> similar
>program to which >> > you replyed that perhaps
>we could offer some of the >> courses that the
>Hadley >> > does not offer such as computer
>courses. >> > I think a better approach would be
>to work with the >> Hadley school to
>perhaps >> > assisting them with creating some
>additional courses >> and maybe some of us >> >
>can help teach of some of the courses. >> > My
>thinking is that Hadley already has a well >>
>established program one which >> > has a good
>reputation and a strong name. Working >>
>cepretly will not help >> > anyone and would not
>serve the people we want to help >> well. >> >
>What my thinking is when it comes to working
>with >> Causes for Change is that >> > both
>would be separate organizations maintaining >>
>eaches identy, but work to >> > to
>together. >> > There is a common bond between us
>enhance we both want >> to help disabled >> >
>people in under developed countries. In
>relationship >> we call this chemistry >> > and
>in business we call this partnership. So
>since >> there is chemistry >> > between Blind
>International Network and Causes for >> Changes,
>I would >> > encourage for us when doing some
>projects to go into a >> partnership. >> > The
>advantage we would have is that we have
>resources >> and possible sources >> > for fund
>which can help Causes for Change and the >>
>opposite. In addition, we >> > can serve as the
>experts on blindness for clients of >> Causes
>for Change and >> > perhaps they can be experts
>for us if we came across a >> client who is
>not >> > blind. >> >Â Finally I think working
>will help both Causes >> for Change and
>Blind >> > International advance their goals and
>help both >> organizations with funding >> > and
>name identification. To often the disability >>
>organizations work >> > separately and
>everyone is competing for >> attention and
>power. This to often >> > drives donors and
>possible supporters away and causes >> them to
>not get >> > involved in anything. So it think
>it will be great if >> we can show donors
>and >> > supporters that we are calabrating
>with other >> organizations where it is >> >
>possible but still maintaining our identy. >> >
>Another advantage this would bring is that it
>would >> help us when we apply >> > for the Paul
>G. Hern award. In addition, applying for >> this
>award would give >> > some of us who want
>experience applying for grants to >> work with
>Katy who >> > already has experience and
>something we can include in >> our resume. >> >
>Just some of my thoughts and sorry for the
>long >> rants. >> > Anmol >> > >> > >> > >> > I
>seldom think about my limitations, and they
>never >> make me sad. Perhaps >> > there is just
>a touch of yearning at times; but it is >>
>vague, like a breeze >> > among flowers. >> >
>Hellen Keller >> > >> > >> > --- On Tue,
>10/26/10, Causes for Change International >>
>(CCI) >> > <Info at CausesforChange.org> >>
>wrote: >> > >> >> From: Causes for Change
>International (CCI)
><Info at CausesforChange.org> >> >> Subject: Re:
>[Blind-international-students] >> meeting
>minutes >> >> To: "'Blind International Students
>Mailing List'" >> >>
><blind-international-students at nfbnet.org> >> >>
>Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 11:25 AM >> >>
>Thank you Hina, >> >> Yes, I am still searching
>for >> >> a Braille Writer. It would be >> >>
>great if we could get one along with >> >> any
>other supportive equipment that would >> >> be
>helpful to a group of individuals just >> >>
>learning to become independent: White
>canes, >> >> magnifying glasses and other items
>that you >> >> can think of. I have someone from
>Ecuador >> >> arriving in Chicago on the 20th
>and returning >> >> to Ecuador on the 11th of
>December. >> >> At that time I would be able to
>take the >> >> Opportunity to send these
>items. >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original
>Message----- >> >> From:
>blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org >
> > >>
>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> >> On Behalf Of hina >> >> altaf >> >> Sent:
>Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:04 AM >> >> To:
>Blind International Students Mailing List >> >>
>Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] >>
>meeting >> >> minutes >> >> >> >> dear jan,
>thanks for sending out the minutes. I >>
>think >> >> instead of >> >> legally blind, we
>should use words like people >> with >> >>
>significant vision >> >> lose. The time for next
>meeting is this coming >> sunday at 6 >> >> pm
>central >> >> time. if anyone has any other
>plans please let me >> know >> >> ahead of
>time. >> >> any suggestions of what are some of
>the projects >> we can >> >> work on?
>zully >> >> the braille writer was already taken
>by someone >> else and if >> >> you still >> >>
>did not recieve one, i can try a few other >>
>resources. >> >> thanks. >> >> hina. >> >> >> >>
>On 10/26/10, jan wright
><jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com> >> >>
>wrote: >> >> > The meeting Began at 8:15 P.M.
>(EST). >> >> > >> >> > Those in
>attendance were Hina, Anmol, >> >> Zaby,
>Jan, Philip and Imran. >> >> > >> >> > The
>goals and mission statement were read >> again.
>It >> >> was suggested and >> >> > adopted to
>change " Legally blind," and >> "Blind and
>Low >> >> Vision"Â to >> >> > "Those with
>significant vision loss." >> >> > It
>was pointed out that there are already >> >>
>international databases of >> >> >
>organizations. So, instead of reinventing the >>
>wheel, >> >> we will >> >> > "evaluate" already
>existing databases and >> make >> >> attempts to
>add to them >> >> > or correct them if/when
>possible. >> >> > The goals and mission
>statement were accepted >> as >> >>
>corrected. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Zaby is
>going to Pakistan, Karachi to >> evaluate >> >>
>an organization where >> >> > blind people live
>and work. He will give us a >> report >> >> of
>his findings >> >> > when he returns. We wish
>him luck and a safe >> trip. >> >> > There was
>much discussion concerning >> publicity. >> >> >
>Anmol was to write an add for us to put on >>
>the email >> >> lists, etc. >> >> > We realize
>that we don't have a website, yet, >> but
>we >> >> could advertise >> >> > the
>blind-international-student mailing list >> >> >
>and our conference calls. >> >> > Anmol talked
>about putting an advertisement >> in >> >> the
>Ziggler Magazine, >> >> > MIUSAÂ and the
>Braille forum. >> >> > Hina will
>put something on the technology >>
>list. >> >> > Everyone should put a blurb about
>the >> >> organization  on their email >> >>
>lists, >> >> > etc. >> >> > We could also
>advertise on newsline, Braille >> Monitor >> >>
>and the Student >> >> > division. >> >> > We
>also discussed making a web site. >> >> > Philip
>and Imran can create the web page. >> >> > Imran
>will look into setting up a website >>
>and >> >> have a mailing list on >> >> >
>freelists. >> >> > >> >> > We discussed grant
>writing and defining >> projects that >> >> are
>important to >> >> > us. Hina would talk to Katy
>about grant >> writing. Anmol >> >>
>would >> >> > investigate the grant from
>AAPD. >> >> > Next meeting is   on
>Halloween. >> >> The exact time is to be
>announced. >> >> > This meeting was adjourned at
>9:25 P.M. >> >> > >> >> > Respectfully
>submitted, >> >> > Jan Wright (am in the process
>of changing my >> last name >> >> to
>Ahmed) >> >> > >> >> > >>
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