[Blind-international-students] meeting minutes

Wed Oct 27 19:24:44 UTC 2010

Someone, (I don't know who) in that meeting said that they know how to get 
around shipping costs.
Anmol, did you get any contact info?
I can try again to email Diane McGeorge and ask her to send me a list of 
meeting participants (names and emails) but she did not respond to my last 
email.
Maybe she did not get it.
Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anmol Bhatia" <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
To: "Blind International Students Mailing List" 
<blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] meeting minutes

>I think the braille writer would meet the waight limit, but how much would 
>it cost? This summer at the Friends of the International committee meeting 
>one problem that Dr. Shroder mentioned which oftens comes up when sending 
>equipment oversease is that the cost of shipping the equipment is sometimes 
>more then the equipment itself. Plus we will have to see what are the 
>restructions in the country where we are sending the braille writer and if 
>we shiped it will it get to the proper person? Many times it does not. 
>These are just somethings we have to consider.
> Anmol
>
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps 
> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze 
> among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
>
>
> --- On Wed, 10/27/10, hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] meeting minutes
>> To: info at causesforchange.org, "Blind International Students Mailing List" 
>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 9:35 AM
>> hi zully,
>> I sent your braille writer request to sightexchange and i
>> hope someone
>> will respond to our request for a braille writer. but maybe
>> we can
>> talk to mail department to allow us to send equipment for
>> free sent
>> through causis for change international to any where in the
>> world. i
>> know the postal service has a weight limit, but since this
>> is going to
>> be shipped by an organization we can talk to the postal
>> service to
>> lift this weight requirement. thanks.
>> hina.
>>
>> On 10/27/10, Info <info at causesforchange.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Thank you Anmol, you stated things very well. It is
>> about partnership,
>> > collaboration, and strenthening each others vision and
>> mission.
>> > I appreciate the tip about the weight of the braille
>> writer.
>> > Sent from Zully
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>> > Sender: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 05:48:50
>> > To: Blind International Students Mailing
>> > List<blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> > Reply-To: Blind International Students Mailing List
>> > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] meeting
>> minutes
>> >
>> > Hello my fellow blind international students,
>> > Sorry for my slow in providing response to some of the
>> discussion that we
>> > have going on this list, but I think we have a
>> positive vision going and I
>> > think we will have some good contribution to the blind
>> community in America
>> > and world as well as some positive contribution to the
>> disability community
>> > in the United States and world wide.
>> > Jan, you presented some some good points both pro and
>> cons with us joining
>> > with Causes for Changes and during our last meeting I
>> somewhat provided some
>> > of the thoughts on what I am thinking.
>> > But let me provide my thoughts in greater detail:
>> > Generally when I am thinking about doing any project
>> wheather it be for
>> > non-profit or for-profit, I like to use the step by
>> step process that I was
>> > tought when writing a proposal:
>> >  What is it that I or my group or
>> organization wants to do?
>> >  Who are the people that will be
>> involved and who are the people who will
>> > benefit?
>> >  What are the pros and what are
>> the the cons of the project?
>> >  How much if any would be the
>> cost if we did the project?
>> >  Is there anyone or any other
>> group or organization who is doing the
>> > samething or related thing?
>> >  If so would it be possible for
>> my group to eather join or partner with
>> > that organization or group to carry out the project?
>> >  Finally what is the outcome that
>> we want to achieve?
>> > I think we need to keep this in mind as we are
>> thinking of what are some of
>> > the projects that we want to do and who we want to
>> work with.
>> > This step by step process will also help us in
>> applying for the Paul G. Hern
>> > award.
>> > Now to answer to some of the previous discussion:
>> > Last time Hina you suggested that one project that
>> Blind International could
>> > do is to create a distance learning program for blind
>> students living in
>> > other countries.
>> > I mentioned that the Hadley School already has a
>> similar program to which
>> > you replyed that perhaps we could offer some of the
>> courses that the Hadley
>> > does not offer such as computer courses.
>> > I think a better approach would be to work with the
>> Hadley school to perhaps
>> > assisting them with creating some additional courses
>> and maybe some of us
>> > can help teach of some of the courses.
>> > My thinking is that Hadley already has a well
>> established program one which
>> > has a good reputation and a strong name. Working
>> cepretly will not help
>> > anyone and would not serve the people we want to help
>> well.
>> > What my thinking is when it comes to working with
>> Causes for Change is that
>> > both would be separate organizations maintaining
>> eaches identy, but work to
>> > to together.
>> > There is a common bond between us enhance we both want
>> to help disabled
>> > people in under developed countries. In relationship
>> we call this chemistry
>> > and in business we call this partnership. So since
>> there is chemistry
>> > between Blind International Network and Causes for
>> Changes, I would
>> > encourage for us when doing some projects to go into a
>> partnership.
>> > The advantage we would have is that we have resources
>> and possible sources
>> > for fund which can help Causes for Change and the
>> opposite. In addition, we
>> > can serve as the experts on blindness for clients of
>> Causes for Change and
>> > perhaps they can be experts for us if we came across a
>> client who is not
>> > blind.
>> > Finally I think working will help both Causes
>> for Change and Blind
>> > International advance their goals and help both
>> organizations with funding
>> > and name identification. To often the disability
>> organizations work
>> > separately and everyone is competing for
>> attention and power. This to often
>> > drives donors and possible supporters away and causes
>> them to not get
>> > involved in anything. So it think it will be great if
>> we can show donors and
>> > supporters that we are calabrating with other
>> organizations where it is
>> > possible but still maintaining our identy.
>> > Another advantage this would bring is that it would
>> help us when we apply
>> > for the Paul G. Hern award. In addition, applying for
>> this award would give
>> > some of us who want experience applying for grants to
>> work with Katy who
>> > already has experience and something we can include in
>> our resume.
>> > Just some of my thoughts and sorry for the long
>> rants.
>> > Anmol
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
>> make me sad. Perhaps
>> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
>> vague, like a breeze
>> > among flowers.
>> > Hellen Keller
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Tue, 10/26/10, Causes for Change International
>> (CCI)
>> > <Info at CausesforChange.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Causes for Change International (CCI) <Info at CausesforChange.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
>> meeting minutes
>> >> To: "'Blind International Students Mailing List'"
>> >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 11:25 AM
>> >> Thank you Hina,
>> >> Yes, I am still searching for
>> >> a Braille Writer. It would be
>> >> great if we could get one along with
>> >> any other supportive equipment that would
>> >> be helpful to a group of individuals just
>> >> learning to become independent: White canes,
>> >> magnifying glasses and other items that you
>> >> can think of. I have someone from Ecuador
>> >> arriving in Chicago on the 20th and returning
>> >> to Ecuador on the 11th of December.
>> >> At that time I would be able to take the
>> >> Opportunity to send these items.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> On Behalf Of hina
>> >> altaf
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:04 AM
>> >> To: Blind International Students Mailing List
>> >> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
>> meeting
>> >> minutes
>> >>
>> >> dear jan, thanks for sending out the minutes. I
>> think
>> >> instead of
>> >> legally blind, we should use words like people
>> with
>> >> significant vision
>> >> lose. The time for next meeting is this coming
>> sunday at 6
>> >> pm central
>> >> time. if anyone has any other plans please let me
>> know
>> >> ahead of time.
>> >> any suggestions of what are some of the projects
>> we can
>> >> work on? zully
>> >> the braille writer was already taken by someone
>> else and if
>> >> you still
>> >> did not recieve one, i can try a few other
>> resources.
>> >> thanks.
>> >> hina.
>> >>
>> >> On 10/26/10, jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > The meeting Began at 8:15 P.M. (EST).
>> >> >
>> >> > Those in attendance were Hina, Anmol,
>> >> Zaby, Jan, Philip and Imran.
>> >> >
>> >> > The goals and mission statement were read
>> again. It
>> >> was suggested and
>> >> > adopted to change " Legally blind," and
>> "Blind and Low
>> >> Vision" to
>> >> > "Those with significant vision loss."
>> >> > It was pointed out that there are already
>> >> international databases of
>> >> > organizations. So, instead of reinventing the
>> wheel,
>> >> we will
>> >> > "evaluate" already existing databases and
>> make
>> >> attempts to add to them
>> >> > or correct them if/when possible.
>> >> > The goals and mission statement were accepted
>> as
>> >> corrected.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Zaby is going to Pakistan, Karachi to
>> evaluate
>> >> an organization where
>> >> > blind people live and work. He will give us a
>> report
>> >> of his findings
>> >> > when he returns. We wish him luck and a safe
>> trip.
>> >> > There was much discussion concerning
>> publicity.
>> >> > Anmol was to write an add for us to put on
>> the email
>> >> lists, etc.
>> >> > We realize that we don't have a website, yet,
>> but we
>> >> could advertise
>> >> > the blind-international-student mailing list
>> >> > and our conference calls.
>> >> > Anmol talked about putting an advertisement
>> in
>> >> the Ziggler Magazine,
>> >> > MIUSA and the Braille forum.
>> >> > Hina will put something on the technology
>> list.
>> >> > Everyone should put a blurb about the
>> >> organization on their email
>> >> lists,
>> >> > etc.
>> >> > We could also advertise on newsline, Braille
>> Monitor
>> >> and the Student
>> >> > division.
>> >> > We also discussed making a web site.
>> >> > Philip and Imran can create the web page.
>> >> > Imran will look into setting up a website
>> and
>> >> have a mailing list on
>> >> > freelists.
>> >> >
>> >> > We discussed grant writing and defining
>> projects that
>> >> are important to
>> >> > us. Hina would talk to Katy about grant
>> writing. Anmol
>> >> would
>> >> > investigate the grant from AAPD.
>> >> > Next meeting is on Halloween.
>> >> The exact time is to be announced.
>> >> > This meeting was adjourned at 9:25 P.M.
>> >> >
>> >> > Respectfully submitted,
>> >> > Jan Wright (am in the process of changing my
>> last name
>> >> to Ahmed)
>> >> >
>> >> >
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