[Blind-international-students] meeting minutes

Thu Oct 28 16:28:11 UTC 2010

I agree Jan.
This is the problem with us saying significant  vision loss and I think I mentioned it in the last meeting.
What does significant  vision loss mean and to what degree will we consider significant  vision loss? Unless and until we define what we consider significant  vision loss it will present a problem for us when we provide services. Therefore, it is probally better for us to leave it at legally blind and we can determine who receives our services based on various factors such need, lack of funds and various factors. I think we need to say that we will provide tools and services to anyone who needs it in order  to be successful which would include providing eye glasses for legally blind people in Equidor. Low vision  I think is anyone who is legally blind which means that low vision is just a better term for legally blind. We could say that people with low vision excluding those with high parshel vision but again what do we consider high parshel? Proper language is vary important and significant  vision loss is the same arguement like reasonable
 accomadation. Americans with Disabilities mandates that employeers provide reasonable accomadation, but does not define what is considered reasonable accomadation.
Just my thoughts.
Anmol

I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
Hellen Keller

--- On Thu, 10/28/10, Jan Wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jan Wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] meeting minutes
> To: "Blind International Students Mailing List" <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, October 28, 2010, 10:39 AM
> 
> I think that it will exclude those who do not have
> significant vision loss.
> Because... .... they don't have significant vision loss and
> therefore, we 
> are saying that when the vision loss is not
> "significant,"  it does not 
> detour them from their daily living.
> 
> but, we probably should define "Significant."
> Maybe "significant vision loss," is the same as "low
> vision."
> If that has been defined, then, we can go with it.
> I mean,
> what exactly is "low,"
> If there are definitions, let us know.
> We did not like the "legally blind," definitions because we
> felt that there 
> were some "legally blind" individuals who could see quite
> well and would not 
> need our services.
> I know some here in the USA.
> Jan
> 
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> 
> >A question. What percentage of the
> > Population has "significant vision loss"?
> > How is that defined? Will this exclude those
> > That do not have "significant vision loss"?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
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> On Behalf Of Hina
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:22 PM
> > To: Blind International Students Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] meeting
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> >
> > hi jan,
> > no, but please send it to me both goals and mission
> statement because i 
> > and
> > philip are going to work on our web site this
> weekend.
> > hina.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jan Wright" <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
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> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:35 PM
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> >
> >
> >
> >    Hi Hina,
> > Yes. we decided to change it to "Those with
> significant vision loss."
> > That will be in the goals.
> > Do you want a new copy sent to the list with the
> revisions?
> > Jan
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "hina altaf" <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
> > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] meeting
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> >
> >
> > dear jan, thanks for sending out the minutes. I think
> instead of
> > legally blind, we should use words like people with
> significant vision
> > lose. The time for next meeting is this coming sunday
> at 6 pm central
> > time. if anyone has any other plans please let me know
> ahead of time.
> > any suggestions of what are some of the projects we
> can work on? zully
> > the braille writer was already taken by someone else
> and if you still
> > did not recieve one, i can try a few other resources.
> thanks.
> > hina.
> >
> > On 10/26/10, jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> The meeting Began at 8:15 P.M. (EST).
> >>
> >> Those in attendance  were  Hina, Anmol,
> Zaby, Jan,  Philip and Imran.
> >>
> >> The goals and mission statement were read again.
> It was suggested and
> >> adopted to change " Legally blind," and "Blind and
> Low Vision"  to
> >> "Those with significant vision loss."
> >> It was  pointed out that there are already
> international databases of
> >> organizations. So, instead of reinventing the
> wheel, we will
> >> "evaluate" already existing databases and make
> attempts to add to them
> >> or correct them if/when possible.
> >> The goals and mission statement were accepted as
> corrected.
> >>
> >>
> >> Zaby  is going to Pakistan, Karachi to
> evaluate an organization where
> >> blind people live and work. He will give us a
> report of his findings
> >> when he returns. We wish him luck and a safe
> trip.
> >> There was much discussion concerning publicity.
> >> Anmol was to write an add for us to put on the
> email lists, etc.
> >> We realize that we don't have a website, yet, but
> we could advertise
> >> the blind-international-student mailing list
> >> and our conference calls.
> >> Anmol talked about putting  an advertisement
> in the Ziggler Magazine,
> >> MIUSA  and the Braille  forum.
> >> Hina will put  something on the technology
> list.
> >> Everyone should put a blurb about the
> organization    on their email
> >> lists,
> >> etc.
> >> We could also advertise on newsline, Braille
> Monitor and the Student
> >> division.
> >> We also discussed making a web site.
> >> Philip and Imran can create the web page.
> >> Imran will look into setting  up a website
> and have a mailing list on
> >> freelists.
> >>
> >> We discussed grant writing and defining projects
> that are important to
> >> us. Hina would talk to Katy about grant writing.
> Anmol would
> >> investigate the grant from AAPD.
> >> Next meeting is   on
> Halloween.  The exact time is to be announced.
> >> This meeting was adjourned at 9:25 P.M.
> >>
> >> Respectfully submitted,
> >> Jan Wright (am in the process of changing my last
> name to Ahmed)
> >>
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