[Blind-International-Students] [jaws-uk] Re: [jaws-up] Thank you and starting general computer list

Sat May 30 21:29:52 UTC 2020

Well, thank you Graham, Robin and others. Graham, I am aware of the
two lists you mentioned. Nonetheless, they’re not active as to my
humble knowledge. Well, I would like someone else to create this list
because I am not sufficiently adequate to preside such thing. As you
may have noticed subsequent to my recent incident, my computer
knowledge is quite limited. I thence wish to designate this task to
someone who is more qualified. So, if posting off topic here is
somewhat okay, kindly excuse me, I have some questions. Based on my
recent experience, how could a screen reader user access safe mode? As
my friend launched it yesterday, I caught that even Narrator doesn’t
operate there. Does it run on dos? And if so, how could we access
this, if we needed to? I read about diagnostic mode and fathomed, that
it allows basic elements to run and disables major features.
Strangely, why would someone need to run on such primitive mode? I
apologise again for posting about irrelevant subjects here. We just
couldn’t cope without learning something new, everyday. As I write
this, I relentlessly recall further issues. Concerning Avast, I
noticed that its latest built has got zero screen reader friendly
interface. What’s the best alternative then? I halted being a Jaws
user almost a year ago. I can’t afford to upgrade and moreover, I have
plenty of priorities to spend such substantial amount of cash on.
Well, I do not destine to be impolite, but as of you who could afford
Jaws, how could you still be able to manage paying for such expensive
licence and concurrently, grapple with regular life primeval expenses?
And, how are you folks getting on during lockdown period? I personally
began to feel quite tedious. Therefore, I constantly urge myself to
develop new skills, to lift my spirit a bit. Is it true, that in the
UK, they intend to ease internment restrictions this week? Here in
Egypt, unfortunately, our curve has risen to its peak with people
behaving carelessly. That’s insane and, the circle of positively
tested individuals gets closer to me everyday. I pray to Allah, to
help us overcome this stern ordeal. Thank you for reading, best
wishes, Mustafa

On 5/30/20, Robin <dmarc-noreply at freelists.org> wrote:
> I wish some one would start a  computer lis
> Cheers Robin.
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> Sounds like reinventing the wheel to me as we already have the access uk and
> BCAB lists. Talking of which anyone got the sub info for both as would like
> to get back on board.  Cheers!  Graham
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> From: jaws-uk-bounce at freelists.org <jaws-uk-bounce at freelists.org> On Behalf
> Of Mostafa Almahdy
> Sent: 29 May 2020 21:11
> To: jaws-uk at freelists.org
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Thank you and starting general computer list
>
> Hello everyone, thank you for decently responding to my inadvertent post. I
> came today with the following suggestion. Although this list is mainly for
> Jaws, people still would ask about unrelated subjects.
> Thence, I thought of developing another list for general computer questions.
> I previously encountered couple of maling lists that had been dedicated to
> computer discussions. Nonetheless, they no longer exist, as to my humble
> knowledge. Blind computer users though desperately demand to access
> information that are useful and sometimes necessary to execute troubleshoot
> utilities on their own. So for instance, I recently experienced something
> intriguing. Yesterday afternoon, I felt tedious and went to Windows
> configurations and played with them. I unnoticeably altered Windows startup
> to something called, diagnostic mode. I hence booted my system for this
> selected option to take effect, not knowing what that was. I then left my
> machine and after awhile, I sat on my laptop again. I pushed the power
> button but couldn’t hear anything. I retried multiple times with the same
> mysterious result. I felt awkward and took my reticent machine to my
> neighbors to see what’s going on. After she loa
>  ded the system, she saw Windows sign coming up, with welcome message.
> Subsequently, as soon as the system fully loaded, the screen became dark. I
> recognised then, that I changed major settings. I felt phew and calmly
> returned home. This morning, I called a sighted friend to come visit me to
> see my computer. He came and saw what we went through yesterday. After
> Windows is fully loaded, the screen turns dark. I told him to try running
> Windows on safe mode, which he did. We got to run utility and retained
> Windows to start normally. Ultimately, problem solved. So, I said to myself,
> hmm, should have not I done this on my own?
> Particularly, that we are in strict lockdown here in Egypt. I am enormously
> connived though, to solve my computer problems independently. I included
> other friends with their contact information undisclosed. Shouldn’t we, id
> est, blind computer users, be able to access such crucial utilities as
> Windows safe mode? With such unusual situation, if you are not environed by
> competent sighted individuals, who could help you solve your computer
> problems, you may end up leaving your computer dead for awhile. I was lucky
> today though.
> Consequently, I think my suggestion to have a list dedicated to solving
> significant computer troubles like the one I experienced yesterday is
> absolutely necessary right now. It’s not safe at all, to visit computer
> shops. So, as we’re now wholly quarantined and we couldn’t predict for how
> long, we may intelligently take advantage of this situation and set general
> computer discussion list, to massively exchange information and expertise
> and possibly, help those who might be in need. As we knew well, it’s quite
> inconvenient for us as blind people to be stuck and not able to fix such
> basic thing, especially if we already have got the know-how. We just lack
> equitable access. I admit, that calling my friend to come along was a bit
> risky. Although he himself is a doctor and thus, very careful, still that
> was a bit speculative. So, I would like us all to see, what could be
> possibly done, to serve the largest number of blind computer users
> worldwide, so, they may solve their computer
>  based troubles on their own and not to seek sighted assistance, especially,
> it’s not safe now to meet people randomly as such. Thank you for reading,
> and, sorry for the lengthy post. Cordially, Mustafa
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> On 5/29/20, Joan Muir <dmarc-noreply at freelists.org> wrote:
>> Hello Tom and Richard.
>>
>> What stars you are! Jaws is now speaking tab in Word. I hadn't
>> realised that not saying tab was the default now. I know it stopped
>> saying "alt tab" and that suits me fine.
>>
>> Thank you very much. I'm amazed at the help I get from this list.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Joan.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jaws-uk-bounce at freelists.org
>> [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce at freelists.org] On Behalf Of Redacted sender
>> "tom.reid21" for DMARC
>> Sent: 29 May 2020 08:03
>> To: jaws-uk at freelists.org
>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Completely Off Topic
>>
>> Hi Joan,
>>
>> By default, jaws sets the tab key to be silent. In jaws settings
>> centre, there's a keyboard section. If you open that up, there's a general
>> section.
>> If you open the general section up and arrow down, you get to manage
>> key labels. When you get into that, if you press t you'll get to tab
>> and it will say mute. When you are on tab, press the space bar and it
>> will say speak.
>>
>> If that's what you want, tab along till you get to possibly apply, or
>> there might be just the ok, and make your change.
>>
>> Good news it's working.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jaws-uk-bounce at freelists.org <jaws-uk-bounce at freelists.org> On
>> Behalf Of Joan Muir (Redacted sender "wjmuir.twadugs" for DMARC)
>> Sent: 28 May 2020 16:55
>> To: jaws-uk at freelists.org
>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Completely Off Topic
>>
>> Hello Tom.
>>
>> It doesn't say tab when I press it, but I've just realised that if I
>> use control right arrow it will say "tab" so at least I know it works!
>> I don't know howI managed to make it silent though.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Joan.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jaws-uk-bounce at freelists.org
>> [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce at freelists.org] On Behalf Of Redacted sender
>> "tom.reid21" for DMARC
>> Sent: 28 May 2020 15:00
>> To: jaws-uk at freelists.org
>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Completely Off Topic
>>
>> Hi Joan, did you get this sorted. Is it the tab that isn't working or
>> is it that you don't hear the thing saying tab.
>>
>>    If not, have you tried a sys restore.  Have you got a windows
>> repair disk?  Tom
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jaws-uk-bounce at freelists.org <jaws-uk-bounce at freelists.org> On
>> Behalf Of Joan Muir (Redacted sender "wjmuir.twadugs" for DMARC)
>> Sent: 27 May 2020 20:58
>> To: jaws list <jaws-uk at freelists.org>
>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Completely Off Topic
>>
>> Hello Folks.
>>
>>
>> This really is not a Jaws thing, and I apologise for asking the question.
>> I'm going crazy trying to sort the problem out though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Using Word 2010. For some reason the tab key is no longer taking me
>> anywhere. I can't find how to set it and I've no idea how I cancelled
>> it either.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any help would be very much appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>>
>>
>> Joan.
>>
>>
>>
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