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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link="#467886" vlink="#96607D" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Note: As of the first episode of 2026 (episode #2601), transcripts of each episode will be available for download. You can find links to the transcripts on our web site or use the link in these weekly announcements (such as the one below). We hope some listeners find these transcripts useful.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This week’s episode of Eyes On Success is:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><span style='mso-ligatures:none'><img width=150 height=84 style='width:1.5625in;height:.875in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.jpg@01DC834C.08571470" alt="Close-up photo of Glen Gordon. He is wearing a brown tweed sport coat and beige dress shirt."></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.EyesOnSuccess.net/eos_2602_podcast.mp3">2602 Behind the Scenes with JAWS - From Inception To Next Gen (Jan. 14, 2026)</a><br><a href="https://www.EyesOnSuccess.net/show_notes_2602.htm" target="_blank">Show Notes</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.eyesonsuccess.net/bin/dt.php?sn=2602">Transcript</a><br>Glen Gordon, long the key developer behind JAWS for Windows, continues his story in part two of our interview. Hosts Nancy and Peter Torpey talk with Glen about his early work developing JAWS, major changes in screen reader technology, balancing AI with traditional methods, and his retirement plans to improve accessibility in some open-source projects.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:none'>You can download the episode from the link above or subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your podcasts if you don’t want to miss an episode. 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