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blind association should be able to network you holly to a mobility  
specialist.  They paid for services to help me...best money ever  spent...for 
real.  I never ever tipped in this chair and I can tell you I  have put it 
through some pretty tough tests....we have even had to wash the  wheels off cuz 
they get mud caked in them cuz I was trying to garden after a  rain lol.  
Maybe I need mud flaps too...someone went by one day and said to  hubby...good 
thing no one gives her a tractor lol....ha ha...deb
 
 
In a message dated 6/14/2009 8:11:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
mommaholly at gmail.com writes:

Oh you  made me laugh saying that John Deer needs to make some wheels  for
you.   Smiles.  Have you ever had your chair tp with you  in  it?  How
would I go about finding a mobility specialist that  can do  wc and db
too?

Holly

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Oh Laura..I do wish I was near you.  You and I would go  on a  wheelchair

field trip and I guarantee you come home two  hours later feeling more  
confident.  It does not happen  overnight and you need a good 3-6 months
and  much 
exposure to  different buildings and situations to get around.  And
truly, 
you  could fall now on your own without the wheelchair.  At least  with  
wheelchair..you are closer to the ground.  Also, we actually  tested
this Jazzy 
chair and went down over a hill (my mobility  specialist did it to see
how 
stable the chair is about tipping over)  and she was at a pretty steep
slant  and 
it did NOT tip.   Now..getting stuck..I am the queen at getting that
chair 
stuck  places.  Like I said...John Deere needs to invent some new   wheels
for 
me lol.  My son who is 15 jokes he is going to charge  me  "wrecker fees"

for getting me unstuck from our front yard  after it just rained  lol.  I
think 
the trick is mobility  training and I heard (just a rumor)  that the 
government has cut  mobility training as part of a service.  I
LOVEEEEEEEEd my  
mobility specialist...she actually pulled me out of bed some  days  I
didn't want 
to go!!  ha ha.  I hope you will try again in  an  open space...deb


In a message dated 6/14/2009 6:05:06 P.M.  Central Daylight Time,  
lauraeaves at yahoo.com  writes:

Wow,  Holly and Agape, your mail makes me count my  blessings.  I still
have 

balance, but a severe to profound  hearing loss in both ears. My vision
is  
now down to seeing only  light and bright colors, and that out of the
right  
corner of the  right eye, and I am confined to a manual chair due to  
orthopedic  problems -- but I still feel blessed.  Negativity is   poison
--  
not just unpleasant for people to deal with, but  eroding  the negative 
person 
him/herself.
Good luck with the  power chair.   I confess I'm afraid of them.  I had  a

sighted friend in college who  was in a power chair and  accidently went
off 
the side of a curb.  She  had to be  scooped up from the street and
xrayed 
for 
injuries.  She   didn't have the brittle bone problem I have -- if I did 
that 
with a  chair  it would be a major catastrophy.
I did  try a power chair  for a week,  and liked it, but the dangers
weren't 
worth it to me  -- not to mention to  damage to my walls and  
furniture...*smile*
Anyway, good luck and happy   rolling!
--le



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Holly,

I  am especially interested in blind mobility  because I was a nurse  and
am studying to become a rehab specialist.  I  myself had to  struggle
with mobility issues that actually depressed me  enough I was  staying in
bed way 
too
much.
I am not real familiar  with  your condition although you have explained
that you are totally blind   and have hearing lose also.  It sounds like
your gait   (walking)  has been compromised by your disease also.  I
guess I  would
like   to know if this disease is progressive and will your  walking and
stability  get  worse???  How much hearing loss  have you experienced? I
have  MS/a back injury from previous car  accident/and am legally blind
(I see  shadows from the left eye so  that is a help-sometimes.... When
one  eye can  see even just a  bit...it causes a perception problem (that
is  another whole   story) and I think something is further then it is
and  end up  
hitting
a doorway  or my finger.)  My conditions might   progress so I prepared 
myself
for no  vision at all.  I used  a  blindfold and that was actually easier
to mobilate.

I  decided in  2005, that I needed to stop using all my energy  staying
upright.  My  kids and grand kids always saw me walking  in an "ape-like 
walk"
using a  cane with a grim face trying to  survive the pain of walking.
By  
the
time, I got to my  destination, I had to take a pain pill and  was
miserable for any  event in my life.  It was my best decision  to get
electric  
mobility.
Let me give you some tips I  learned.

1.   Hand controls:  You use your left or right hand  to control   the
knobs. It is wise to first use the "turtle setting" of  the chair  when
first learning to use your chair. Always keep your  hand above  the
controls  and 
not
hanging off the side or you will   break a finger or hurt your hand if
you  
do
hit the molding,  etc.  going through a doorway.  Size up your   doorways.

You
will  need at LEAST 35 inches for doorways and  floor  space with a
Jazzy electric chair to clear the arm rests which  is  its widest  part.

Always turn the control to off when you  stop  or when  getting in and
out of the chair.  This is  VERY  important fact to  learn.  If you leave
the  
chair
on, and am  pivoting, you can  hit controller and your  chair will either
run into you or  knock  something flying while  you are trying to pivot
out of
the  chair.   TRAIN that  if you don't turn it off...someone scolds you
lol.

2.  Clear  your surroundings in your home and learn your   "spaces".   I
am
sure your family members already know that nothing is  to  be  moved or
rearranged without telling you already but I need  to  reiterate  that.
I 
was
sentimental and wanted my China  closet  where it was because  that is
full 
of 
my
good  china and crystal  but it was right next to the  doorway where  the
transition strip into  the room makes it a rough fit through   door.   Of

course,  I
needed to get that china closet  moved,  because what good would a
destroyed china closet be if I ran  into it and all the  crystal came
tumbling out of  
the
doors?

Any floor that has more then half  inch change  going from one room to
another, will have to have a  transitional  strip put down. If only under
an 
inch,
you can sometimes  use a  thick welcome carpet rectangle (some call them
mud rugs-very course   material about inch thick) to help with that
transition. Transition  strips  can be purchased online also.  Check with
local   agencies
for  funding for house adaptation because I am on a special  state
program
that sends aides to my home daily and they paid for  the  transition
strips and its installation.

Do not crowd  your  paths you go regularly.  For example, don't put   the
family  computer and chair right near your path to the kitchen  because
invariably  family members leave the chair out.  It could  end up hurting

you 
if  you
run into it or catch a wheel on  that chair.  Set your home up  for
success. Clear a path that is  at least 36-48 inches for you to  go
freely to all places in your  home.  When you get your new  chair, try
to get a 'mobility  specialist' to work with you in an open  area to
learn  control  of the 
chair. 
It
does NOT come  instantly.  Plan on  getting a  few fingers hurt or ankle

bones
lol.
Make sure  your children/family understand that sneakers   (especially
men's
bulky ones) are not to be left in middle of  floor.   Remove all extra
furniture but keep durable cornered  ones for markers to be  used with
your 
guide
cane.    (I will talk about guide canes  next.)  Expect that you   still
will
have the occasional accidents  of running over the cat's  tail because
they didn't move fast enough  etc.  LOL you will  hear that if you get em
lol.

3.  I  use a roller tip guide  cane which was purchased by the blind
association  for me. I tried the  ball cane and it was awkward but the 
roller 
tip
was  perfect  for me.  Its about 3 inches across and turns like a
steering
wheel  around in front of me as I check my surroundings.   Therefore,  one

hand
(my right) is using the control to move forward and   backward and the
other hand (a lot of wrist action-expect your arm  and  shoulders to hurt
during 
first
month of practicing.) is  used to hold  the cane
in a reverse grip with the thumb up.  You  use your wrist to  move the
cane back and forth.  Learn to keep  the roller  tip on the ground at all
times.  This roller tip is  "clearing" you  for  access to the new area
in front of  you.  You will soon learn  that it will  show 
you
when  you get to a new intersection in a  building and even on a busy
street  will tell you when sidewalk  changes or curb is ahead.  It  has
saved  me many falls down a  stairwell etc.  I kind of  think of my guide
cane as a 
magic
wand  to open up my world to  me again.  I went everywhere with my
mobility
specialist to learn  different challenges.  In the hospital,  I  learned
that  revolving doors should be avoided by blind wheelchair  users from
my  
mobility
specialist.  I would not take that as a "NO  NO" so  I learned to  use
the slow down button on the revolving door  and  go through them anyway
because 
our
major hospital has it as   the entrance where my hubby was always  there
as a patient. The   guide cane will make a half circle in front of you at
all times staying  on  the ground.  Think of windshield wipers but
completely flat  on  ground in  front of you.  Practice this in an open
area  such as a  church,  school 
or
hospital.

4.  Using  your other  senses.  This is one thing that concerns me   when
you said you  are losing your hearing also.  I use my  hearing a great
deal  
when
transporting myself.  I listen  for an upcoming person in a  hall  at the
hospital.  I  listen for the shoes of someone I am  following in a
public  
place.
(I do have two family members  trained as my guide person  by  the way.
This is where a guide  dog might come in handy for  you.  He  could be
your
"ears'.)  I listen constantly in  new area because my guide   cane tells
me 
when I
am going  from cement to a driveway.  I use my  cane and  sound to  help
me cross at a red light at a busy  intersection. I can hear my  cane
touch the walls and curbs.  You will  have to rely solely on  your hand
and guide cane to seek out your "frontal"  space.  It  is always ok to
stop the chair and get your bearings with  where you  are by 
taking
the guide cane completely around your  area.   You can even take it
behind you to see how far a wall or  barrier is  behind you.  I use my
guide cane 
when
backing into   a
space to sit next to a regular chair in a waiting room etc.
Your   familiarity with the chair will take time and practice.  I  can
tell
you on second day I was in tears because I am a type "A"  personality
that likes to do things perfectly.  But now, I have  conquered  airports,
school auditoriums, hospitals, and very busy  intersections on  public
streets.

If your healthcare provider  is concerned you will lose  your  muscle
tone etc., that is an  old school idea.  I do my  exercises in  bed still
(I can  
do
more now that I am free from pain  all the time.) and I  have  great
upper 
core
strength because I  went to  physical therapy to get  exercises to do in
the
wheelchair.  I  am constantly busy now in the   wheelchair.  My  kitchen
sink
and stove have no cupboard doors or  wood  frame  so I can pull my
wheelchair right under to get access to  do   dishes and cook.  I use my
table for my 
prep
area because   it is  perfect size for chopping, etc.  If I ever get
rich,   I will have a counter  built right near sink that will be lower
for  me  to use as my prep area or a  center island low enough for  me
with a  sink in it.  
My
church has been  so great  to me.  They have  built ramp, redid the
kitchen, widened   doors and even put a new Pergo  laminated floor in my
living room  because my  wheels were spinning on  the thick carpeting.
What  floors do you have in your home, by the  way?

I have given you  much to think about but truly...I love my  electric
Jazzy chair. Now I  am working on more storage issues on the chair  lol.
I  want  feedbags or a special cover that is pretty and  comfortable.

In  closing, I will tell you that getting a power chair is  the best
thing  I could do to be the best mother that I can be.  I now  sit  up
proudly  when entering my son's school.  I am smiling   instead of being
in extreme  pain. 
I
am using that energy  to  engage in my child's world and community. I
personally feel more  empowered  in the electric wheelchair then having
to almost crawl into  a public  building.

I do have struggles because its not a perfect  world and many  things are
not handicap accessible yet.  (Many  bleachers at son's  football games
are not yet handicap accessible for  example.)  I work  with community
leaders, building owners,  school districts  to see that  they do not
have accessible  buildings. I just feel that I am an educator  and
advocate for  those  with physical and mental challenges that  prevent
them to  be all they can  be. 
YOU
can...and YOU will...if  you put  your mind to it.

By way, if you are looking at the financial  part  of the purchase  of
chair, you only need a doctor's order to get   the electric  wheelchair.
You then take the doctor's order to   the medical supply store  and they
will help 
adapt
the chair  best  for you.  DO NOT buy a chair  without being able to  try
it. Medicare pays for most of the chair costs  and if you  have
medicaid, I believe they pick up the difference.  If not,   and  you
don't have the 20% 
funds,
look at different agencies  to help  you.   You need to convince your
doctor
that you  NEED an  electric  wheelchair.  I had to convince  my
neurologist that it  would be better for  me to sit to travel  around my
community and  
home.
I had fell so much,  he had  ordered a Life Line (button that  contacts
emergency personnel I  have  emergency) for me to wear because  I laid
one 
day  
til
my son came home in a long  walk-in closet that  was very  hot.  Since,
getting the chair three years  ago, I have  not  fell once.  (I have hurt
my 
ankle
because I put down  my   foot between petal and floor which is another
big NO
NO,  I didn't mention.)  But  an ankle sprain is much better then  a
broken 
hip
or concussion  lol.   NOW, my  neurologist  recommends electric mobility
for
his patients   because he has seen how totally "freeing" it was for  me
to go from  pain to GAIN  by using electric mobility. An electric
wheelchair  improves the quality of  life in people that have limited
mobility due  to 
injury
or disease.

Good luck, and do try to find  a  mobility specialist to assist you in
getting your chair and teaching  you  to use it. The blind association in

your 
are
should  have access to a  mobility specialist.

MY LAST advice is to ENJOY  LIFE AS IT IS...because  its YOUR life and
your memories you are  making new memories with your  little guy.  Laugh
at yourself  when you run into a wall.  If you  goof and spill  something,

figure 
out
what could of been done to avoid   that incident.  Keep things
organized. 
You
will be  surprised  what all you can do from that  chair.  I even  garden
but my  wheels get stuck..I am gonna ask the  wheelchair  company to come
out  
with
a John Deere wheels for on my Jazzy!  HA  HA.

Take every  day as a Blessing!  Best  wishes!  Keep me  posted.   deb




In a  message dated 6/13/2009 11:40:42 P.M. Central  Daylight  Time,
mommaholly at gmail.com writes:

Hello   everyone.   I was on this list once before, but got off of it
for
whatever  reason.  Now I am back with more questions and   needing
support.

I am totally blind and while I was pregnant  with  my son 2  years ago I
started losing my hearing.  Now  I have lost  one hear  completely and
the other ear mostly.   Since the tuor  that I have is an  acoustic
neuroma on the 8th  nerve which controls  not only hearing, but also
balance, well I'm  vertually drunk all day  every day.

With  each day that  passes my balance get worse and  worse.  I have
fallen countless  times.  I am afraid that  oone of these day I'm going
to fall and  break my nec or something  very very dangerous.  Right now
I live  in Asheville, NC which is  in the mountains.  That is like  even
worse with the  balance.  Right now I use a walker, but it  still can't
make me  catch myself whenever I'm already falling.   My vistibular
system  is wack.

So I'm leaning more to a power  chair.  I have   tumors in my spine and
don't think I would  be strong enough to push  myself,  especially up all
these  sloping sidewalks, driveways, etc of  the mountains  of  Asheville.
I am going to be moving back to Arkansas,  flat land,  soon  though  just
because these mountains are killing   me.  I'm afraid  to go out of my
house alone afraid of   falling.  I always feel like  crying when I go
out. It's so  hard  and I have to concentrate so intently  not to lose  my
balance and  thinking about it only make the balance worse   and I have
to go sooooo  slow.

So I think really a chair would  be  best for me.  I  just am suck
because balance is  terrible now, but  being in a chair,  will that make
it worse? My  right leg is already  weak.  The  quads are basically  non
existant and
PT never could get it   back.  There's  nerve damage and really not way
to
get it back.   I  have  nothing to lock my knees so it can buckle very
easily.   And  since  that leg is not strong I have trouble keepingthe
balance,   then throw in all  the other vistibular problems.

How does   mobility in a chair work?   Is it hard?  One thing I   was
thinkingabout, I know I'm paranoid.   I know there are  seat  belts, but
what if the chair tips overand you're  strapped  in then  that heavy
chairs falls on you.  What would you   do?  How  likely is it to tip?
Have any of you tipped   it?

Also  what would be the best type of chair to get considering  I'm  blind
and  don't have my own car to adapt and also won't  have   public
transportation in Arkansas to call a Van and make  surethey have  a  lift
and those little wheel locks like  paratranset.  Would  a  folding
powerchair be good?  Do  any of you have one of   those?

Help, I'm full of  question.     Smiles.

Holly


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