[Blind-rollers] Blind-rollers Digest, Vol 50, Issue 5

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>>  1. Re: an idea (Becky Frankeberger)
>>  2. Re: an idea (Paul Wick)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 10:31:16 -0700
>> From: "Becky Frankeberger" <b.butterfly at comcast.net>
>> To: <bcpaws4me at gmail.com>
>> Cc: 'Blind wheelchair users list' <blind-rollers at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-rollers] an idea
>> Message-ID: <003601cd1b2d$90d6d8d0$b2848a70$@butterfly at comcast.net>
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>> 
>> with your joy stick attached to an AMD you might just get more flexibility
>> in traveling. Certainly less pain in the wrists.
>> 
>> Alternative Mobility Device
>> Photo shows Dona walking with an AMD.  It has two vertical 4-foot metal
>> rods, each
>> with a handle at the top and a wheel at the bottom.  The rods are connected
>> and held
>> about a foot apart with a horizontal bars near the top and at the bottom
>> (the horizontal
>> bar at the bottom extends a few inches beyond the long vertical rods and
>> curves back
>> to the rods).
>> "Alternative mobility devices" (AMD's) can provide as much protection (or
>> more!)
>> as a long cane, but without having to use proper cane technique. They can
>> reliably
>> detect obstacles, slopes or drop-offs (such as curbs or stairs) ahead of
>> the
>> user.
>> AMDs are often used by people (children and adults) who cannot use the long
>> cane
>> for various reasons, such as being physically unable to move the cane
>> properly or
>> being unable to learn to correctly use the cane reliably. AMDs are also
>> useful for
>> people who require advanced warning of slopes because of precarious
>> balance.
>> And
>> AMDs are sometimes used for jogging, as they don't require coordination of
>> the cane
>> with the feet. However it is important to know that traditionally designed
>> AMDs do
>> NOT provide any support.
>> The first photos on this page show an AMD that was developed for research
>> purposes
>> by the Veterans Administration. It is not available for sale, but I use it
>> as a prototype
>> to determine if an AMD will be useful for clients and if so, what length is
>> needed.
>> Before this prototype was available, I used luggage carriers and 2-wheeled
>> shopping
>> carts to demonstrate to clients how an AMD might work for them. Actually,
>> such carts
>> and carriers have been used by some people as an AMD (if you use such a
>> ready-made
>> device as an AMD, be sure the wheels are far enough apart --
>> see below
>> ).
>> AMD's can detect drop-offs, as shown in the photos below.
>> Two photos show Dona pushing the AMD along the sidewalk and one of the
>> wheels drops
>> over the curb, which tips the AMD sideways, alerting the user.
>> Two photos show Dona pushing the AMD along the sidewalk and one of the
>> wheels drops
>> over the curb, which tips the AMD sideways, alerting the user.
>> AMDs are more effective than canes to detect and anticipate changes in
>> slopes, as
>> illustrated below.
>> Photo shows Dona pushing the AMD along the sidewalk, approaching a driveway
>> with
>> a slope going down to the street to her left.
>> Photo shows the wheels of the AMD in the slope of the driveway, which tilts
>> the entire
>> AMD so the left handle is lower than the right handle.
>> AMDs in Use
>> AMDs can be made from PCV pipe, customized for size, handle and wheel
>> design
>> as shown
>> in the examples below.
>> Thanks to "An Illustrated Guide to Cane Repair and More" by Lynn Gautreaux
>> for very
>> helpful instructions to assemble the AMD! This book is available from AER
>> --
>> order
>> at
>> AER's online bookstore
>> or phone 877-492-2708 or 703-671-4500.
>> AMD for walking without pain
>> A woman holds an AMD made of white plastic pipe in the shape of a
>> rectangle,
>> with
>> long sides and short top and bottom (the bottom piece extends a few inches
>> to each
>> side of the rectangle) with two wheels at the borrom.  She holds the top
>> like a person
>> would hold the handle of a shopping cart, and the bottom bar is about a
>> foot
>> and
>> a half in front of her forward foot.
>> Using a cane correctly was awkward and sometimes painful for this woman,
>> and she
>> decided that an AMD would be useful. She wanted to be able to push it with
>> a
>> bar
>> along the top (like pushing a shopping cart) rather than with handles at
>> the
>> side
>> (like pushing a wheelbarrow). She may add pipe insulation along the handle
>> to make
>> it larger and softer, and pegs on the bottom so the AMD can stand on its
>> own
>> for
>> storage.
>> Photo shows the woman's feet and the bottom bar of the AMD, which is
>> horizontal to
>> the ground and supported by two wheels.  The wheels are about 17-18 inches
>> apart,
>> and behind the bar we see that as her feet move forward to where the AMD
>> bottom is
>> now, her feet will step within the space between the wheels.
>> Wheel position and AMD dimensions
>> It is crucially important that the distance between the wheels be wider
>> than
>> the
>> space in which the feet walk, so that there is sufficient warning of
>> drop-offs to
>> the side, such as curbs. The distance between the wheels should be even
>> wider for
>> people who occasionally move their foot to the side to correct their
>> balance.
>> The front bar should be far enough ahead of the user to allow sufficient
>> warning
>> of drop-offs, depending on the person's reaction time and walking (or
>> running!) speed.
>> The bottom bar of this AMD is extended to each side to increase detection
>> of
>> obstacles.
>> AMD for negotiating obstacles easily
>> Two photos show a woman walking along a hall, approaching the edge of an
>> open door.
>> Her left hand trails the wall and her right hand holds a cane with the tip
>> on the
>> floor straight ahead of her hand.  The cane never touches the door, and she
>> is about
>> to collide into it.
>> Two photos show a woman walking along a hall, approaching the edge of an
>> open door.
>> Her left hand trails the wall and her right hand holds a cane with the tip
>> on the
>> floor straight ahead of her hand.  The cane never touches the door, and she
>> is about
>> to collide into it.
>> The doors propped open in this building create hazards, particularly when
>> someone
>> trails the walls. The cane does not provide protection and warn about the
>> doors when
>> it is not consistently used correctly, as demonstrated here (
>> click here
>> for an explanation of the stages of learning to use a cane, and the
>> importance of
>> full mastery of the technique in order to provide protection).
>> Three photos show the woman approaching the same door but holding an AMD
>> instead
>> of a cane.  The AMD is in the shape of a rectangle with wheels on the
>> bottom, and
>> she is pushing it like one would push a lawnmower.
>> Three photos show the woman approaching the same door but holding an AMD
>> instead
>> of a cane.  The AMD is in the shape of a rectangle with wheels on the
>> bottom, and
>> she is pushing it like one would push a lawnmower.
>> Three photos show the woman approaching the same door but holding an AMD
>> instead
>> of a cane.  The AMD is in the shape of a rectangle with wheels on the
>> bottom, and
>> she is pushing it like one would push a lawnmower.
>> By contrast, the AMD provides full protection simply by being pushed ahead,
>> without
>> having to use proper cane technique.
>> AMD made by Eldre Boggs, COMS
>> A lightweight AMD is easy to maneuver with one hand while still providing
>> full protection,
>> leaving the other hand free to trail the walls looking for corners and
>> doorways.
>> Photo shows the woman with her left hand trailing a wall approaching a
>> corner, and
>> pushing the AMD with her right hand.
>> Three photos show the woman approaching the same door edge she approached
>> in
>> the
>> first photos, trailing the wall with her left hand and pushing the AMD
>> ahead
>> of her
>> with her right hand.  When the AMD reaches the edge of the door, it stops
>> while the
>> woman is still a few feet away from the door.
>> Three photos show the woman approaching the same door edge she approached
>> in
>> the
>> first photos, trailing the wall with her left hand and pushing the AMD
>> ahead
>> of her
>> with her right hand.  When the AMD reaches the edge of the door, it stops
>> while the
>> woman is still a few feet away from the door.
>> Three photos show the woman approaching the same door edge she approached
>> in
>> the
>> first photos, trailing the wall with her left hand and pushing the AMD
>> ahead
>> of her
>> with her right hand.  When the AMD reaches the edge of the door, it stops
>> while the
>> woman is still a few feet away from the door.
>> This foldable AMD is now on the market from
>> Ambutech
>> -- the two photos on the left show the model with the "indoor wheels" and
>> on the
>> right is a prototype with swivel wheels.
>> Photo shows the woman walking along the sidewalk from her driveway with a
>> rectangular
>> AMD that looks like two white canes with crossbars.  The bottom of the AMD
>> has stopped
>> at the bottom of a step.
>> Photo shows the woman smiling and standing on the sidewalk in front of her
>> home.
>> The AMD has just dropped over the edge of a step.
>> Photo shows a young man walking along a sidewalk pushing another Ambutech
>> AMD.  It
>> is rectangular with a swivel wheel at the bottom corners, and all white
>> except for
>> about 4 inches of red at the bottom of the sides.
>> Return to
>> Teaching the Cane and Non-Visual Skills
>> Return to
>> Using an AMD to Safely Experience Walking Without Vision
>> 
>> Becky Frankeberger
>> Butterfly Knitting
>> 
>> Custom-made knit throws, shawls, and more!
>> 
>> Phone: 360-426-8389
>> E-mail: becky at ButterflyKnitting.com
>> Website: www.ButterflyKnitting.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 22:57:51 -0700
>> From: Paul Wick <wickps at gmail.com>
>> To: Blind wheelchair users list <blind-rollers at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-rollers] an idea
>> Message-ID:
>>       <CAN9av1akMgsR3aob4jaYp8d0ZR_LHDJ6wXGz7mYpiUUszYyQmg at mail.gmail.com
>>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> 
>> All:
>> 
>> While an interesting idea, an AMD offers little real likelyhood that
>> its user will be as independent as the user of a white cane (in all
>> its varieties) I think there is litterally no one who if enough time
>> is spent in training could not use a long white cane. The only
>> exception might be people who use crutches or walkers, however those
>> same people could be just as independent if they used a chair and a
>> cane (I use mostly a manual chair with my cane and while traveling can
>> be slow going especially on inclines it can be done.)
>> 
>> The AMD also does not have the near universal identification that the
>> white cane has in the public mind, (I say near universal because
>> people basically walk right into me everyday lol) The only practical
>> use I might see is for getting around a nursing home or other
>> institution-like closed environment.
>> 
>> Just my two cents, from experience, not through any formal training in
>> the subject matter.
>> 
>> My Best,
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> On 4/15/12, Becky Frankeberger <b.butterfly at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> with your joy stick attached to an AMD you might just get more
>> flexibility
>>> in traveling. Certainly less pain in the wrists.
>>> 
>>> Alternative Mobility Device
>>> Photo shows Dona walking with an AMD.  It has two vertical 4-foot metal
>>> rods, each
>>> with a handle at the top and a wheel at the bottom.  The rods are
>> connected
>>> and held
>>> about a foot apart with a horizontal bars near the top and at the bottom
>>> (the horizontal
>>> bar at the bottom extends a few inches beyond the long vertical rods and
>>> curves back
>>> to the rods).
>>> "Alternative mobility devices" (AMD's) can provide as much protection
>> (or
>>> more!)
>>> as a long cane, but without having to use proper cane technique. They can
>>> reliably
>>> detect obstacles, slopes or drop-offs (such as curbs or stairs) ahead of
>> the
>>> user.
>>> AMDs are often used by people (children and adults) who cannot use the
>> long
>>> cane
>>> for various reasons, such as being physically unable to move the cane
>>> properly or
>>> being unable to learn to correctly use the cane reliably. AMDs are also
>>> useful for
>>> people who require advanced warning of slopes because of precarious
>> balance.
>>> And
>>> AMDs are sometimes used for jogging, as they don't require coordination
>> of
>>> the cane
>>> with the feet. However it is important to know that traditionally
>> designed
>>> AMDs do
>>> NOT provide any support.
>>> The first photos on this page show an AMD that was developed for research
>>> purposes
>>> by the Veterans Administration. It is not available for sale, but I use
>> it
>>> as a prototype
>>> to determine if an AMD will be useful for clients and if so, what length
>> is
>>> needed.
>>> Before this prototype was available, I used luggage carriers and
>> 2-wheeled
>>> shopping
>>> carts to demonstrate to clients how an AMD might work for them. Actually,
>>> such carts
>>> and carriers have been used by some people as an AMD (if you use such a
>>> ready-made
>>> device as an AMD, be sure the wheels are far enough apart --
>>> see below
>>> ).
>>> AMD's can detect drop-offs, as shown in the photos below.
>>> Two photos show Dona pushing the AMD along the sidewalk and one of the
>>> wheels drops
>>> over the curb, which tips the AMD sideways, alerting the user.
>>> Two photos show Dona pushing the AMD along the sidewalk and one of the
>>> wheels drops
>>> over the curb, which tips the AMD sideways, alerting the user.
>>> AMDs are more effective than canes to detect and anticipate changes in
>>> slopes, as
>>> illustrated below.
>>> Photo shows Dona pushing the AMD along the sidewalk, approaching a
>> driveway
>>> with
>>> a slope going down to the street to her left.
>>> Photo shows the wheels of the AMD in the slope of the driveway, which
>> tilts
>>> the entire
>>> AMD so the left handle is lower than the right handle.
>>> AMDs in Use
>>> AMDs can be made from PCV pipe, customized for size, handle and wheel
>> design
>>> as shown
>>> in the examples below.
>>> Thanks to "An Illustrated Guide to Cane Repair and More" by Lynn
>> Gautreaux
>>> for very
>>> helpful instructions to assemble the AMD! This book is available from
>> AER --
>>> order
>>> at
>>> AER's online bookstore
>>> or phone 877-492-2708 or 703-671-4500.
>>> AMD for walking without pain
>>> A woman holds an AMD made of white plastic pipe in the shape of a
>> rectangle,
>>> with
>>> long sides and short top and bottom (the bottom piece extends a few
>> inches
>>> to each
>>> side of the rectangle) with two wheels at the borrom.  She holds the top
>>> like a person
>>> would hold the handle of a shopping cart, and the bottom bar is about a
>> foot
>>> and
>>> a half in front of her forward foot.
>>> Using a cane correctly was awkward and sometimes painful for this woman,
>>> and she
>>> decided that an AMD would be useful. She wanted to be able to push it
>> with a
>>> bar
>>> along the top (like pushing a shopping cart) rather than with handles at
>> the
>>> side
>>> (like pushing a wheelbarrow). She may add pipe insulation along the
>> handle
>>> to make
>>> it larger and softer, and pegs on the bottom so the AMD can stand on its
>> own
>>> for
>>> storage.
>>> Photo shows the woman's feet and the bottom bar of the AMD, which is
>>> horizontal to
>>> the ground and supported by two wheels.  The wheels are about 17-18
>> inches
>>> apart,
>>> and behind the bar we see that as her feet move forward to where the AMD
>>> bottom is
>>> now, her feet will step within the space between the wheels.
>>> Wheel position and AMD dimensions
>>> It is crucially important that the distance between the wheels be wider
>> than
>>> the
>>> space in which the feet walk, so that there is sufficient warning of
>>> drop-offs to
>>> the side, such as curbs. The distance between the wheels should be even
>>> wider for
>>> people who occasionally move their foot to the side to correct their
>>> balance.
>>> The front bar should be far enough ahead of the user to allow sufficient
>>> warning
>>> of drop-offs, depending on the person's reaction time and walking (or
>>> running!) speed.
>>> The bottom bar of this AMD is extended to each side to increase
>> detection of
>>> obstacles.
>>> AMD for negotiating obstacles easily
>>> Two photos show a woman walking along a hall, approaching the edge of an
>>> open door.
>>> Her left hand trails the wall and her right hand holds a cane with the
>> tip
>>> on the
>>> floor straight ahead of her hand.  The cane never touches the door, and
>> she
>>> is about
>>> to collide into it.
>>> Two photos show a woman walking along a hall, approaching the edge of an
>>> open door.
>>> Her left hand trails the wall and her right hand holds a cane with the
>> tip
>>> on the
>>> floor straight ahead of her hand.  The cane never touches the door, and
>> she
>>> is about
>>> to collide into it.
>>> The doors propped open in this building create hazards, particularly when
>>> someone
>>> trails the walls. The cane does not provide protection and warn about the
>>> doors when
>>> it is not consistently used correctly, as demonstrated here (
>>> click here
>>> for an explanation of the stages of learning to use a cane, and the
>>> importance of
>>> full mastery of the technique in order to provide protection).
>>> Three photos show the woman approaching the same door but holding an AMD
>>> instead
>>> of a cane.  The AMD is in the shape of a rectangle with wheels on the
>>> bottom, and
>>> she is pushing it like one would push a lawnmower.
>>> Three photos show the woman approaching the same door but holding an AMD
>>> instead
>>> of a cane.  The AMD is in the shape of a rectangle with wheels on the
>>> bottom, and
>>> she is pushing it like one would push a lawnmower.
>>> Three photos show the woman approaching the same door but holding an AMD
>>> instead
>>> of a cane.  The AMD is in the shape of a rectangle with wheels on the
>>> bottom, and
>>> she is pushing it like one would push a lawnmower.
>>> By contrast, the AMD provides full protection simply by being pushed
>> ahead,
>>> without
>>> having to use proper cane technique.
>>> AMD made by Eldre Boggs, COMS
>>> A lightweight AMD is easy to maneuver with one hand while still providing
>>> full protection,
>>> leaving the other hand free to trail the walls looking for corners and
>>> doorways.
>>> Photo shows the woman with her left hand trailing a wall approaching a
>>> corner, and
>>> pushing the AMD with her right hand.
>>> Three photos show the woman approaching the same door edge she
>> approached in
>>> the
>>> first photos, trailing the wall with her left hand and pushing the AMD
>> ahead
>>> of her
>>> with her right hand.  When the AMD reaches the edge of the door, it stops
>>> while the
>>> woman is still a few feet away from the door.
>>> Three photos show the woman approaching the same door edge she
>> approached in
>>> the
>>> first photos, trailing the wall with her left hand and pushing the AMD
>> ahead
>>> of her
>>> with her right hand.  When the AMD reaches the edge of the door, it stops
>>> while the
>>> woman is still a few feet away from the door.
>>> Three photos show the woman approaching the same door edge she
>> approached in
>>> the
>>> first photos, trailing the wall with her left hand and pushing the AMD
>> ahead
>>> of her
>>> with her right hand.  When the AMD reaches the edge of the door, it stops
>>> while the
>>> woman is still a few feet away from the door.
>>> This foldable AMD is now on the market from
>>> Ambutech
>>> -- the two photos on the left show the model with the "indoor wheels"
>> and
>>> on the
>>> right is a prototype with swivel wheels.
>>> Photo shows the woman walking along the sidewalk from her driveway with a
>>> rectangular
>>> AMD that looks like two white canes with crossbars.  The bottom of the
>> AMD
>>> has stopped
>>> at the bottom of a step.
>>> Photo shows the woman smiling and standing on the sidewalk in front of
>> her
>>> home.
>>> The AMD has just dropped over the edge of a step.
>>> Photo shows a young man walking along a sidewalk pushing another Ambutech
>>> AMD.  It
>>> is rectangular with a swivel wheel at the bottom corners, and all white
>>> except for
>>> about 4 inches of red at the bottom of the sides.
>>> Return to
>>> Teaching the Cane and Non-Visual Skills
>>> Return to
>>> Using an AMD to Safely Experience Walking Without Vision
>>> 
>>> Becky Frankeberger
>>> Butterfly Knitting
>>> 
>>> Custom-made knit throws, shawls, and more!
>>> 
>>> Phone: 360-426-8389
>>> E-mail: becky at ButterflyKnitting.com
>>> Website: www.ButterflyKnitting.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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