[Blind-rollers] wheelchair access and city ordinance

[Paul Wick]

Bibi and All,

Speaking as an attorney myself; in the situation you don't need an attorney. Please contact your local Center for Independent living (and I know Denver has one) they have advocates on staff his job is precisely to help people and situations like this, all you really need to do is make a couple nasty phone calls to the public works department.

Best,
Paul

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> On Sep 8, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Marlana via Blind-rollers <blind-rollers at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I would think it is an accessability issue for sure. Here in Oregon we have agencies that will help you fight such issues. I was able to get an attourney help me get rapmps for my apartment when they were promised and then after I moved they said they were too expensive. My attourney had a few phone calls with them and now I have very nice ramps.
> 
> It will take some research for your particular state, here it is called Independent Living Resources. If you can do google searches to help you find an ADA attorney in your area they are quite often able to help you free of charge, or can refer you to those who can.
> 
> Marlana
> 
> 
> 
> Original message
> From: "Becky Frankeberger via Blind-rollers" <blind-rollers at nfbnet.org>
> To: orleans24 at comcast.net; blind-rollers at nfbnet.org; 
> Dated: 9/8/2014 10:18:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blind-rollers] wheelchair access and city ordinance
> 
> If the street where the sidewalk is is say a State highway, then you take
> the puddle up with the State folks
> 
> Anyway, makes sense to me you would not want your power chair splashed by
> the puddle. So why take the chance by going fast through the puddle? Low
> spead and you have no splashing. 
> 
> Also call the people who service your chair and ask how deep of a puddle you
> can go through without shorting out your chair, if that is your concern.
> Puddles at the ends of curb cuts are pretty deep, probably deeper then the
> foot wide puddle on the sidewalk.
> 
> Anyway, I should think the information about how deep is to deep would be
> tops on my list to learn.
> 
> Safety first, so slow down so you don't tip over again, please.
> 
> Becky and Jake waving a paw to Odie 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blind-rollers [mailto:blind-rollers-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire via Blind-rollers
> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 9:45 PM
> To: Blind Rollers Mailing List
> Subject: [Blind-rollers] wheelchair access and city ordinance
> 
> Hi, all,
> Sub says it all.
> Recently, I've been having to put up a huge fight with the city and county
> of Denver here in Colorado.
> I usually go out to the Super Wal-Mart on Hampden Avenue and Dayton Street
> to pick up my medications and I also like how it is wheelchair friendly.
> On the way back up to the intersection, I come across a huge water puddle
> which a Wal-Mart associate recently described it as a foot wide water
> puddle.
> Thankfully, I've never had my power chair short out, but I'm concerned one
> day, it can happen to someone else or eventually when winter hits soon, the
> foot wide pudle will turn into one major piece of ice.
> I realize that with a power chair, it's not the best to go through water
> such that size, but there's not really another alternative way to get around
> the area.
> When I've have had to deal with that foot wide water puddle, I've had to amp
> up the speed on my chair to the last speed which is 6 so my chair would move
> through it quickly.
> I have filed numorous complaints with the city and their claim is and this
> is the quote from Damage Control, "According to the city ordinance, each
> person is responsible for their property even if it is not directly in front
> of a business".
> Damage Control claims that Wal-Mart is responsible for getting that problem
> fixed and despite that I told Damage Control that I have already spoke to
> Wal-Mart on this problem and because of where the sidewalk is, it is beyond
> their property and directly outside their territory.
> Once again, I had to go back to square one having to see if I could launch a
> complaint with neighborhood inspection instead.
> This is very frustrating going round and round with a city who tries to say
> they are best and accessible, but I'm not so sure anymore.
> Any ideas, suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated.
> I have tried to look up things on:
> http://www.denvergov.org
> http://www.denvergov.org
> but problem I'm running into is that the web site is no longer speech
> friendly for those that use screen reading programs.
> Sorry for the long, message.
> Just needed to vent and get this all off of me.
> Sincerely:
> Bibi and MAR son Odie
> orleans24 at comcast.net
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