[Blind-Rollers] A friend in need of a wheelchair who is told no because she is blind

[Becky Frankeberger]

Jane that was me. I don't need the walker full help. So, I could catch myself if a wheel went over the side of a curb. Use the cane to go ahead of you, like a roller tip or ball, if you need the extra time to stop and rebalance yourself.

The best way for me to walk pushing my walker and letting others guide me is when we walked side by side. They have one hand on the walker and I used one or two hands on the walker handles. They couldn't walk ahead of me or drag me. The walker would go all crazy and neither one of us would make progress. Thus, they walked my speed to keep the walker moving straight.

Becky 

-----Original Message-----
From: Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jane Lansaw via Blind-Rollers
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 5:14 PM
To: Karen Rose <rosekm at earthlink.net>
Cc: Jane Lansaw <lansaw at icloud.com>; Blind wheelchair users list <blind-rollers at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blind-Rollers] A friend in need of a wheelchair who is told no because she is blind

Sorry but right now my only reliable guidance system is the white came. Yes, you could totally use it with a wheelchair or scooter or walker.  I meant to answer somebody else’s post earlier about cane  and Walker. Yes, the Walker detect obstacles and will keep you safe but if you are putting all of your weight on the walker, You could hurt yourself on a curb or wheelchair ramp. People who can balance themselves and push the walker forward without putting all their weight on it will be fine without a cane. But most people who need a walker need it for balance. Sam people need a walker to put all of her weight on that walker to stay upright. In that event, you can’t use the walker to detect a drop off or a slant that doesn’t go the way you expect. That is what the cane  can do.

I’m still looking for good guidance systems.  I’ve had students in the past with disabilities in their hands that kept him from using a white cane properly. If I could find something to help them, I would be all over it.  I keep telling people that you have a rumba vacuum can clean the edge of a flight of stairs without going over, I don’t know why we can’t do that with a wheelchair.

Jane Lansaw NOMC
Tulsa


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> On Feb 21, 2022, at 3:36 PM, Karen Rose <rosekm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like you have done amazing advocacy! Could you share any information on guidance systems that blind people are using for scooters and wheelchairs? I could possibly use it with a walker. :-) Thanks
> 
> Karen Rose MFT/LPCC www.career-therapy.net
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Jane Lansaw via Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Gary,
>> I can help. I had a client go through the same thing.  Her doctor prescribed a scooter when she could see better but she needed the doctors approval to get the scooter updated and repaired or replaced by her insurance company. Her doctor then discovered she didn’t have enough vision to do what he thought she needed to do. He refused and she struggled because her scooter wouldn’t go 10 minutes without turning toes up.   She tried so hard to walk with a support cane but there is a reason the doctor prescribed the scooter in the first place.
>> I didn’t want to waste time with a lot of paperwork where she would give me permission to talk to the doctor, then I would send a letter to the doctor, wait for a reply and so forth. I wrote the letter directly to my client explaining to her how blind people use wheelchairs and she took it to her doctor. Next thing you know, new scooter. I was thrilled. This was my first time experiencing that from a doctor.
>> Today I’m home for the holiday but when I get back to work, I will dig up that letter and dust it off to make sure it doesn’t have any confidential information. Then I will forward it to you to see if you think it is appropriate for your lady.  It is very generic and describes people in multiple types of wheelchairs. The big thing doctors need to know is that we already have methods in place for dealing with other disabilities when blindness keeps us from using visual methods.
>> Also, depending on your friends needs, she might want to think about a mobility scooter instead of a full-size, electric, power chair.  You mentioned upper body pain in this might well cause her to stick to a device that will help her support her trunk upright without causing undo stress or pain. On the other hand, if she can sit up in a chair without any help, she might want to think about the scooter because they are very easy to dismantle and load into the trunk of a car.  Power chairs are very cumbersome and limit a person to converted vehicles.  With a mobility scooter, all she needs is a sedan with a large trunk, somebody with an SUV, or even throw it in the back of a pick up truck.
>> Is there anyway that you can get this lady to Springfield at the end of next month? Maybe if I meet her, I could help her a

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