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<div dir="ltr">Hi Maureen</div></div><div dir="ltr">I'm glad your grip strength is better. </div><div dir="ltr">I've never seen a golf putter, but did have a large velcro bandage wrapped around the handle of my old AmbuTech cane. This made it wider, but nice and soft at the same time. </div><div dir="ltr">I now have two canes to pick from here... </div><div dir="ltr">One is an extendable carbon-fibre one which shrinks down to about two feet in length - my cane of choice for the past year or so such as it is with the pandemic going on ...</div><div dir="ltr"> it's lovely and light to work with, small enough to hang from the back of my chair, but does take a second or so to erect or collapse.and the other being the AmbuTech "no jab cane" which has a big spring inside so when it hits a bump or obstacle the cane shrinks down by about 6 to 8 inches or so. It's designed to save your stomach and wrists from taking so much damage. As handy as it is, the benefits are weighed against the extra weight of the cane caused by the metal and workings inside the handle. The handle is also "sheep skin leather" apparently, which feels better than that awful bobbly rubber stuff AmbuTech insist On putting on their canes.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I wish there was more choice of cane handles though. </div><div> </div><hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1"><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers-bounces@nfbnet.org> on behalf of maureen Pranghofer via Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers@nfbnet.org><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 23, 2022 4:09 pm<br><b>To:</b> 'Blind wheelchair users list'<br><b>Cc:</b> maureensmusic@comcast.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blind-Rollers] A friend in need of a wheelchair who is told no because she is blind<div> </div></font></div>Hi<br>I have better hand grasp than I used to have but after my spinal cord injury it wasn't that good and it was hard for me to hang onto a cane. We tried several canes including those with a roller ball on the end and I found those to be especially cumbersome because it weighted down the end of the cane too much. What ultimately worked was the long NFB carbon fiber cane with a golf butter on the grippy part because this made it fatter and the surface wasn't as slippery for hanging on to. I still use that kind of cane but my grasp has improved to where I don'g need the putter. I am still not able to hold the cane in my right hand but the left one works.<br>Maureen<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers-bounces@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Erica via Blind-Rollers<br>Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2022 7:51 AM<br>To: 'Blind wheelchair users list' <blind-rollers@nfbnet.org><br>Cc: ejcole@fmail.co.uk<br>Subject: Re: [Blind-Rollers] A friend in need of a wheelchair who is told no because she is blind<br><br>Hi Jane<br>Your reference to someone with hand disabilities made me think. I had bad carpal tunnel syndrome a few years ago and I always wanted to find another way of holding my cane that doesn't involve the wrist joint. I've no idea how this could be done, but what I came up with was the cuff and handle of an elbow / forearm crutch attached to the rest of the length of a usual white cane. Thus, you do most of the swinging with your shoulder, but can do finer movements using the handle at palm level.<br> <br> Like I said, I have no idea how to achieve something like this, but I'd love to know if anyone ever puts something like this into action. <br>Cheers<br>Erica from the UK<br><br>Erica Cole<br>Find me on Twitter: @ladymunch<br>And I’m on Facebook at facebook.com/ezzie85<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers-bounces@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jane Lansaw via Blind-Rollers<br>Sent: 22 February 2022 01:14<br>To: Karen Rose <rosekm@earthlink.net><br>Cc: Jane Lansaw <lansaw@icloud.com>; Blind wheelchair users list <blind-rollers@nfbnet.org><br>Subject: Re: [Blind-Rollers] A friend in need of a wheelchair who is told no because she is blind<br><br>Sorry but right now my only reliable guidance system is the white came. Yes, you could totally use it with a wheelchair or scooter or walker. I meant to answer somebody else’s post earlier about cane and Walker. Yes, the Walker detect obstacles and will keep you safe but if you are putting all of your weight on the walker, You could hurt yourself on a curb or wheelchair ramp. People who can balance themselves and push the walker forward without putting all their weight on it will be fine without a cane. But most people who need a walker need it for balance. Sam people need a walker to put all of her weight on that walker to stay upright. In that event, you can’t use the walker to detect a drop off or a slant that doesn’t go the way you expect. That is what the cane can do.<br><br>I’m still looking for good guidance systems. I’ve had students in the past with disabilities in their hands that kept him from using a white cane properly. If I could find something to help them, I would be all over it. I keep telling people that you have a rumba vacuum can clean the edge of a flight of stairs without going over, I don’t know why we can’t do that with a wheelchair.<br><br>Jane Lansaw NOMC<br>Tulsa<br><br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 3:36 PM, Karen Rose <rosekm@earthlink.net> wrote:<br>> <br>> Sounds like you have done amazing advocacy! Could you share any information on guidance systems that blind people are using for scooters and wheelchairs? I could possibly use it with a walker. :-) Thanks<br>> <br>> Karen Rose MFT/LPCC www.career-therapy.net<br>> <br>>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Jane Lansaw via Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers@nfbnet.org> wrote:<br>>> <br>>> Hey Gary,<br>>> I can help. I had a client go through the same thing. Her doctor prescribed a scooter when she could see better but she needed the doctors approval to get the scooter updated and repaired or replaced by her insurance company. Her doctor then discovered she didn’t have enough vision to do what he thought she needed to do. He refused and she struggled because her scooter wouldn’t go 10 minutes without turning toes up. She tried so hard to walk with a support cane but there is a reason the doctor prescribed the scooter in the first place.<br>>> I didn’t want to waste time with a lot of paperwork where she would give me permission to talk to the doctor, then I would send a letter to the doctor, wait for a reply and so forth. I wrote the letter directly to my client explaining to her how blind people use wheelchairs and she took it to her doctor. Next thing you know, new scooter. I was thrilled. This was my first time experiencing that from a doctor.<br>>> Today I’m home for the holiday but when I get back to work, I will dig up that letter and dust it off to make sure it doesn’t have any confidential information. Then I will forward it to you to see if you think it is appropriate for your lady. It is very generic and describes people in multiple types of wheelchairs. The big thing doctors need to know is that we already have methods in place for dealing with other disabilities when blindness keeps us from using visual methods.<br>>> Also, depending on your friends needs, she might want to think about a mobility scooter instead of a full-size, electric, power chair. You mentioned upper body pain in this might well cause her to stick to a device that will help her support her trunk upright without causing undo stress or pain. On the other hand, if she can sit up in a chair without any help, she might want to think about the scooter because they are very easy to dismantle and load into the trunk of a car. Power chairs are very cumbersome and limit a person to converted vehicles. With a mobility scooter, all she needs is a sedan with a large trunk, somebody with an SUV, or even throw it in the back of a pick up truck.<br>>> Is there anyway that you can get this lady to Springfield at the end of next month? Maybe if I meet her, I could help her a<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Blind-Rollers mailing list<br>Blind-Rollers@nfbnet.org<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org<br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Blind-Rollers:<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org/ejcole%40fmail.co.uk<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Blind-Rollers mailing list<br>Blind-Rollers@nfbnet.org<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org<br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Blind-Rollers:<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org/maureensmusic%40comcast.net<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Blind-Rollers mailing list<br>Blind-Rollers@nfbnet.org<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org<br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Blind-Rollers:<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org/ejcole%40fmail.co.uk<br></div><div id="ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><div><br></div><div style="text-align: left; color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="auto">Erica Cole</div><div style="text-align: left; color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="auto">Find me on Twitter! 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