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</div><div><div dir="ltr"> </div><div dir="ltr">Bingo! got it in one Becky. I haven't got the confidence or stamina in my feet or arms to self-propel / foot propel for long periods, but it gets me around inside small buildings or rooms or out to a taxi. </div>
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<div> </div><hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1"><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers-bounces@nfbnet.org> on behalf of Becky Frankeberger via Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers@nfbnet.org><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 8, 2024 2:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Blind wheelchair users list' <blind-rollers@nfbnet.org><br><b>Cc:</b> Becky Frankeberger <b.butterfly@comcast.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blind-Rollers] Wheelchair and long cane training in England.<div> </div></font></div>Have someone with a brain walk with you. You want to shoreline, meaning stay near the edge of the sidewalk near the grass hopefully. Is there a park near you that is a square or close enough. You make your feet move the chair with one hand on the big wheel and the other holding and using your long cane. Go slow. So you can feel to get the beat of the cane moves your feet walk forward. I forget right now how it goes when you walk, but say your right foot goes out the cane swings to the left. Someone correct me if I am wrong. You don't want anyone to nervous. You don't want anyone so laid back you might get hurt. Learn together, by using the tools the O and M specialist gave you while walking.<br><br>I was in a nursing home after my fall. I would not stay in bed. The OT, aka, bright person walked with me. She let me know where to turn. I had two doorways to the rug that took you on your left to the tile floor. She let me know I go right to the front door and left to a garden. I went right and I heard a water fountain. We both found out if I lined up with the fountain behind me, the front door was to my right I would role past the receptionist desk on my left. The desk rounded so I had to be careful as I need to stay straight to get to the dining room or physical therapy hallway. She let me know what was around dealing with where I was and needed to go. I used my listening skills and the thing the O and M specialists taught me about listening and using things around me to keep me oriented. I think we did it once and then I asked the receptionist if I was going to the dining hall. I used the people around me to keep me oriented.<br><br>None of this is hard. It is just thinking through things first. Then going out and making mistakes and Victories.<br><br>Warmly,<br>Becky determined to stay safe and mobile <br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers-bounces@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Fran Webber via Blind-Rollers<br>Sent: Friday, June 7, 2024 5:35 PM<br>To: Blind wheelchair users list <blind-rollers@nfbnet.org><br>Cc: Fran Webber <webberfran799@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [Blind-Rollers] Wheelchair and long cane training in England.<br><br>Well, I have just been informed today that the Birmingham sensory team doesn’t do wheelchair and long cane training either. It’s absolutely disgusting that not all boroughs across the country are not doing it in this day and age. If someone was prepared to train me, then I would have no problems in commuting somewhere, and staying there for a couple of weeks in order to have the training. I would even be prepared to pay the instructor. Because because even though I can walk, I can’t walk long distances. so being able to use a wheelchair and a lawn came the same time would mean a great deal to me, because it would mean going anywhere with friends, I wouldn’t get this behind whilst I was in a group. and I wouldn’t experience so much pain walking either.<br>Cheers all, sorry about the rant.<br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>> On 6 Jun 2024, at 20:01, Fran Webber <webberfran799@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> Yes, I know, but don’t worry I will find a way through it. I ain’t gonna let them grind me down. There isn’t even a phone number you can ring any more, because you have to be referred to by a third-party i.e. another charity which has already been done for me but today nothing has been done. I think I’ll have to do is get in touch with the lady at Birmingham focus again, and see what she can do to hurry them up a little bit.<br>> Sent from my iPhone<br>> <br>>> On 6 Jun 2024, at 19:35, Erica Cole via Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers@nfbnet.org> wrote:<br>>> <br>>> Nottingham is also flat broke and bankrupt, however they still have a duty of care as far as I understand it to make sure you get the help you need.<br>>> <br>>> <br>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>> From: Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers-bounces@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of <br>>> Fran Webber via Blind-Rollers<br>>> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2024 6:20 PM<br>>> To: Blind wheelchair users list <blind-rollers@nfbnet.org><br>>> Cc: Fran Webber <webberfran799@gmail.com><br>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Rollers] Wheelchair and long cane training in England.<br>>> <br>>> Yeah, that would be a great idea. The only hitch I have there is that Birmingham City Council is bankrupt, bust, stony motherless broke. So unfortunately, they will not be able to help anyway. I am still on the waiting list for someone to get back to me from the, sensory team. However, no one has contacted me since. another organisation referred me to the sensory impairment team, but like I say, no one has got in touch with me or anything yet.<br>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>>> <br>>>>> On 6 Jun 2024, at 18:13, Erica Cole via Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers@nfbnet.org> wrote:<br>>>> <br>>>> Hey Fran<br>>>> Welcome to the list.<br>>>> My local social services seem ok with doing long cane training for <br>>>> wheelchair users, so if you haven't asked yours, please do and point <br>>>> out that other departments do it.<br>>>> The lady that worked with my friend when she did hers last year is <br>>>> visually impaired herself, so there you go, if a VI mobility person <br>>>> can show a VI wheelchair user routes around the local area, there should be no excuse.<br>>>> Good luck<br>>>> Erica.<br>>>> <br>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>> From: Blind-Rollers <blind-rollers-bounces@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of <br>>>> Fran Webber via Blind-Rollers<br>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2024 8:38 PM<br>>>> To: blind-rollers@nfbnet.org<br>>>> Cc: Fran Webber <webberfran799@gmail.com><br>>>> Subject: [Blind-Rollers] Wheelchair and long cane training in England.<br>>>> <br>>>> Hi, my name is Fran And I live in England. I was just wondering if <br>>>> anybody else on here is from England because I need to have <br>>>> wheelchair and long came training. Unfortunately, no organisation <br>>>> seems to want to do this on the grounds of health and safety. Does <br>>>> anyone know of any organisations that might be able to help.<br>>>> Cheers<br>>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> Blind-Rollers mailing list<br>>>> Blind-Rollers@nfbnet.org<br>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org<br>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info <br>>>> for<br>>>> Blind-Rollers:<br>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org/ejcole%40<br>>>> fm<br>>>> ail.co<br>>>> .uk<br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> Blind-Rollers mailing list<br>>>> Blind-Rollers@nfbnet.org<br>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org<br>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Blind-Rollers:<br>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org/webberfra<br>>>> n7<br>>>> 99%40gmail.com<br>>> <br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Blind-Rollers mailing list<br>>> Blind-Rollers@nfbnet.org<br>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org<br>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Blind-Rollers:<br>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org/ejcole%40f<br>>> mail.co.uk<br>>> <br>>> <br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Blind-Rollers mailing list<br>>> Blind-Rollers@nfbnet.org<br>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org<br>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Blind-Rollers:<br>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org/webberfran<br>>> 799%40gmail.com<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Blind-Rollers mailing list<br>Blind-Rollers@nfbnet.org<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org<br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Blind-Rollers:<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org/b.butterfly%40comcast.net<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Blind-Rollers mailing list<br>Blind-Rollers@nfbnet.org<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org<br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Blind-Rollers:<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blind-rollers_nfbnet.org/ejcole%40fmail.co.uk<br></div></div></body></html>