[blindkid] FW: [nabs-l] Line Ups

Carol Castellano carol_castellano at verizon.net
Mon Dec 8 23:25:53 UTC 2008


Hey, making mountains out of molehills is in the JOB DESCRIPTION of 
being an adolescent!
Carol

At 12:55 AM 12/7/2008, you wrote:
>Carrie:
>
>Seems to me what the below posts truly show is the all-too-prevalent
>tendency on NABS-L to make mountains out of molehills.
>
>Seems to me it's simple: you ask where the end of the line is and stay
>close enough to the person in front to know when s/he moves. If you
>don't, the people behind you will certainly tell you when the line
>moves. But students seem preoccupied with "looking good", not sticking
>out from the crowd and doing everything the "right way" -- whatever that
>might be.
>
>To me, lining up was nothing compared to working in a foreign language
>imersion environment and trying to figure out what was on a cafeteria
>line when one didn't know what things were called in said foreign
>language! (grin)
>
>Mike
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Carrie Gilmer" <carrie.gilmer at gmail.com>
>To: "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)'"
><blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 7:40 AM
>Subject: [blindkid] FW: [nabs-l] Line Ups
>
>
>I find it often interesting that things that come up for us often come
>up
>simultaneously on the student list--that is they bring it up and discuss
>amongst themselves...here is a new example: Recall Stephanie had posted
>about Kendra being shown a method that Stephanie questioned for lining
>up...
>I had thought but never added...
>I think there is room in first grade for a bit of line swaying, that is
>I
>wouldn't expect her to be perfect like a line at a military academy or
>boot
>camp. I have spent many hours at elementary schools in the last twenty
>years... and observed many a line. The sighted kids do not line up
>perfectly...
>
>I would also ask you to observe the subtle things in the discussion
>below
>and the differences between what they were taught and where they were
>taught
>it....
>
>
>
>Carrie Gilmer, President
>National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
>A Division of the National Federation of the Blind
>NFB National Center: 410-659-9314
>Home Phone: 763-784-8590
>carrie.gilmer at gmail.com
>www.nfb.org/nopbc
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf
>Of Valerie Gibson
>Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:42 AM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Line Ups
>
>Hi all,
>
>when i went to the Louisiana center for the blind a long while back,
>we were taught to put the tip of the cane on the heel of the person in
>front of us.  However when the person is moving around or hovering on
>the outskirts of the line where it becomes confusing, i just think the
>best way is to ask where the end of the line is, and when you find the
>end of the line, as the person when you can ove up.  or rather, if
>they could tell you when it's time to move up.
>
>I'm shy too. part of the reason i've not posted to the list much, but
>college teaches me that you have to take what you need, and do what
>you've got to do to get things done, even if it's a matter of waiting
>in line.
>
>On 12/4/08, hannah <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
> > I think the best way would be to light put your cane to the heel
> > of the person in front of you.
> > Best,
> > Hannah
> >
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net
> >>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >>Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:54:51 -0500
> >>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Line Ups
> >
> >>With respect, I disagree.  I think putting your hand on a sighted
> > person's
> >>shoulder is inappropriate, especially if it's a stranger.  Also,
> > some
> >>sighted strangers may interpret this as wanting sighted guide and
> > grab your
> >>arm without worning you!
> >
> >>Serena
> >
> >
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Karrie Kinstetter" <skittlesfreak69 at gmail.com
> >>To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> >><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >>Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:37 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Line Ups
> >
> >
> >>> Sarah, When I went to the school for the blind and other places
> > that had a
> >>> setting like this, I usually just put my hand on the person in
> > front of
> >>> me.
> >>> This also helps a great deal seeing as I have a rocking tendency
> > so if I
> >>> put
> >>> my hand on the person's shoulder, they usually don't mind and
> > are
> >>> perfectly
> >>> fine with it.
> >>> Mind you, those are the blind people.
> >>> If it's the sighted people, they just usually kindly tell me to
> > move up.
> >
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>> Behalf
> >>> Of Sarah Jevnikar
> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:30 AM
> >>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Line Ups
> >
> >>> Hi All,
> >>> I was in my university cafeteria today and thought of one aspect
> > we hadn't
> >>> yet discussed.  How do you guys manage line ups? How do you know
> > if it's
> >>> your
> >>> turn or where the line ends? In my caf there are several lines
> > that
> >>> converge
> >>> so things can get confusing.  I know the obvious thing would be
> > to ask the
> >>> people near you, but I find I get shy and tongue-tied when I'm
> > in
> >>> unfamiliar
> >>> settings alone so sometimes that doesn't work so well.  Any
> > other thoughts?
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Sarah
> >
> >
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