[blindkid] Potty training and eating independantly
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Tue Aug 18 20:09:21 UTC 2009
Than you so much for the idea to set the timer. I will definitely try that! I'll let you know how it goes. Thanx again.
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:28:12 -0500
From: "Carrie Gilmer" <carrie.gilmer at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] O&M maps
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Dear Sally,
Once while in Washington DC for our NFB causes I was traveling with two
blind adult Minnesotans who are excellent travelers and who had been to DC
and who had for years traveled around the capitol and congressional office
buildings. I found a tactile model map of the area and the mall, everything
was labeled in Braille and had model buildings on it--it was a great piece
of work for both sighted and blind to get a mental map of the whole picture.
They were very excited to see it, they learned something new (as did I) and
all three of us got a better mental map of the whole thing in proportion and
how buildings and streets within the larger picture related to each other.
I know several good travel instructors who use felt boards and tactile maps
to lay out intersections for the simple and new concepts to a novice
traveler and also maps to gain a bird's eye view just as sighted people do
to get the whole picture and form a mental map. We have done this with our
kids at Saturday school too. We have a large 4 story mansion for our center,
you can get "lost" in the details and not grasp the whole picture--I think
you miss something if you don't have both. Exploration of details and a map
I believe work together to form a complete mental map--they enhance each
other. Of course you need GOOD and accurate maps.
That said, What is "a lot of time"? For a familiar large building, once or
twice looking at the map should do it--or a periodic few minute review
perhaps if the school is very large and laid out unusually or if he is
having difficulty finding his way. Even for an unfamiliar place a couple of
times looking at it--or a quick review before heading out--in the same way a
sighted person might review a map of something. Some (of all kinds) people
have trouble with maps and never learned to read them--or have trouble
transferring the concept of the whole to their route within it--for others
who have trouble with direction I have found learning to read a map has been
really beneficial in them forming a mental map (sighted and blind) and thus
their route within it.
Once at a Saturday school a parent did not want to bring their child. He had
autism and the mother said-he can not read maps, he will never travel alone,
this class will not be relevant to us. I encouraged her strongly anyway and
they came. We had a tactile outline of the room (which was not rectangular),
he grasped the concept that the tactile line was the shape of the room. I
had a model house with removable stairs. I handed him the stairs--he
commented "oh this is stairs", we talked about how his house was different
from the model--where the placement of the front door was for example. His
parents were shocked at how much he understood and knew (they were even
living in a new house). It completely changed how they approached his travel
and their expectations for what he could do. It also made them realize that
he could/should! have independence and knowledge WITHIN supervised travel. I
have set up tables (square) and we all walked around them getting an idea of
the several block radius and buildings before we go out--it really enhanced
their comprehension (the really 'smart' kids too).
I am unsure of the value of him creating (or reading) maps of the school
(why not more and new places?) at length--unless he was really having
trouble grasping the concept of the whole. Was this to teach him to create
maps? I can't speak to how often blind people create their own
maps--honestly I have never heard someone mentioning doing it, so I will be
very interested to hear.
Carrie Gilmer, map lover :)
(BTW: so glad to hear you finally got an answer for David's headaches and
it was not something really bad or difficult to treat)
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Subject: [blindkid] O&M maps
I'm curious about the use of orientation maps by blind people. My son's O&M
instructor has him spend a lot of time creating tactile maps of his school.
Do others do this? Do people use this kind of map in every day life? It
doesn't make a lot of sense to me--if he is familiar with the environment
why does he need a map? If he's not, wouldn't exploration be a good way to
learn about the building?
Sally Thomas
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:44:34 -0600
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Subject: Re: [blindkid] blindkid Digest, Vol 64, Issue 14
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Sally, what do you mean by "...a lot of time?" I just finished the
blindfold portion of my COMS, so I'm not an expert by any means, but
that course, plus Ethan give me a good bit of experience.
Ethan's saying his teacher didn't even make maps at the beginning of
last year - his first in a new middle school. Since she hasn't called
to schedule a time for going back over the school environment, I'm
offering to take him up this week for a refresher in the 7th Grade
halls, (if he can stand being with me to do that ;-))
Tactile mapping is not used a great deal in the workaday world,
though, since most people are familiar with the routes they have each
day. I believe it would be really useful if you were going to an
unfamiliar place and wanted to give an overview, then, smaller and
smaller areas within that larger arena.
Please, anyone else chime in, as well.
Best,
Leslie
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:57:33 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: [blindkid] Potty Training and eating independantly
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Hi:
?????? I was just wondering if anyone had any tips on potty training. My daughter is kind of big now and I don't think the communication is going well when I am trying to teach her to potty train. If anyone has any tips I would greatly appreciate it. And Any tips for getting her to eat on her own.
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I'm curious about the use of orientation maps by blind people. ?My son's O&M instructor has him spend a lot of time creating tactile maps of his school. ?Do others do this? ?Do people use this kind of map in every day life? ?It doesn't make a lot of sense to me--if he is familiar with the environment why does he need a map? ?If he's not, wouldn't exploration be a good way to learn about the building?
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:06:02 -0500
From: Carrie Thomson <CThomson at StrategicAmerica.com>
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Wonderful insight Carrie, thanks for sharing your knowledge and wisdom!!
Carrie Thomson
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Dear Sally,
Once while in Washington DC for our NFB causes I was traveling with two
blind adult Minnesotans who are excellent travelers and who had been to DC
and who had for years traveled around the capitol and congressional office
buildings. I found a tactile model map of the area and the mall, everything
was labeled in Braille and had model buildings on it--it was a great piece
of work for both sighted and blind to get a mental map of the whole picture.
They were very excited to see it, they learned something new (as did I) and
all three of us got a better mental map of the whole thing in proportion and
how buildings and streets within the larger picture related to each other.
I know several good travel instructors who use felt boards and tactile maps
to lay out intersections for the simple and new concepts to a novice
traveler and also maps to gain a bird's eye view just as sighted people do
to get the whole picture and form a mental map. We have done this with our
kids at Saturday school too. We have a large 4 story mansion for our center,
you can get "lost" in the details and not grasp the whole picture--I think
you miss something if you don't have both. Exploration of details and a map
I believe work together to form a complete mental map--they enhance each
other. Of course you need GOOD and accurate maps.
That said, What is "a lot of time"? For a familiar large building, once or
twice looking at the map should do it--or a periodic few minute review
perhaps if the school is very large and laid out unusually or if he is
having difficulty finding his way. Even for an unfamiliar place a couple of
times looking at it--or a quick review before heading out--in the same way a
sighted person might review a map of something. Some (of all kinds) people
have trouble with maps and never learned to read them--or have trouble
transferring the concept of the whole to their route within it--for others
who have trouble with direction I have found learning to read a map has been
really beneficial in them forming a mental map (sighted and blind) and thus
their route within it.
Once at a Saturday school a parent did not want to bring their child. He had
autism and the mother said-he can not read maps, he will never travel alone,
this class will not be relevant to us. I encouraged her strongly anyway and
they came. We had a tactile outline of the room (which was not rectangular),
he grasped the concept that the tactile line was the shape of the room. I
had a model house with removable stairs. I handed him the stairs--he
commented "oh this is stairs", we talked about how his house was different
from the model--where the placement of the front door was for example. His
parents were shocked at how much he understood and knew (they were even
living in a new house). It completely changed how they approached his travel
and their expectations for what he could do. It also made them realize that
he could/should! have independence and knowledge WITHIN supervised travel. I
have set up tables (square) and we all walked around them getting an idea of
the several block radius and buildings before we go out--it really enhanced
their comprehension (the really 'smart' kids too).
I am unsure of the value of him creating (or reading) maps of the school
(why not more and new places?) at length--unless he was really having
trouble grasping the concept of the whole. Was this to teach him to create
maps? I can't speak to how often blind people create their own
maps--honestly I have never heard someone mentioning doing it, so I will be
very interested to hear.
Carrie Gilmer, map lover :)
(BTW: so glad to hear you finally got an answer for David's headaches and
it was not something really bad or difficult to treat)
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Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:00 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
Subject: [blindkid] O&M maps
I'm curious about the use of orientation maps by blind people. My son's O&M
instructor has him spend a lot of time creating tactile maps of his school.
Do others do this? Do people use this kind of map in every day life? It
doesn't make a lot of sense to me--if he is familiar with the environment
why does he need a map? If he's not, wouldn't exploration be a good way to
learn about the building?
Sally Thomas
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:01:33 -0400
From: "Kieszak, Stephanie (CDC/CCEHIP/NCEH)" <sek7 at cdc.gov>
Subject: [blindkid] Question about regulations for Braille signage
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My daughter's public school does not have permanent Braille signs on the
doors or room locations yet. Before I bring it up again, I was hoping
to find references to regulations concerning Braille signs in public
buildings. I tried searching under ADA but wasn't having much success.
Can anyone point me to some references? Also, what is the recommendation
for the height of the signage? My daughter just entered 1st grade and,
unless things go horribly wrong, she'll be in this school until 6th
grade. We want the signs to be low enough for her to reach them at age
6, but still at a good height at age 11.
Thank you.
Stephanie
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:33:55 -0700
From: Alyson Martinez <sundiosa21 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Potty Training and eating independantly
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Hello,
I definetely feel your pain. Luke was 4 by the time he was potty trained and I thought it was never going to happen. His language is on the track to improvement but at that time his ability to express basic needs just wasn't there. However, we were determined. The school was also instrumental is us achieving this goal. Every tactic was tried out and with Luke repetiveness on top of over the top praise worked. At home, we set a timer for every 20 min to take him to the potty and just try; when he went we did the "pee pee parade" up and down the hall. Yes, we are lunatics. After time he started to get that pee in the potty=positive praise and going in the undies=no parade. Also, no pull ups or diapers just undies, the washer was in overdrive and those were the most disgusting years of my life. EWW! It worked for us and now he is 5 and goes all by himself with no help, communicates when he needs to go and most recently wakes up (sometimes) to go during a nap or at night.
I wish you the best of luck!
Alyson Martinez
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> Subject: [blindkid] Potty Training and eating independantly
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> Hi:
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> I was just wondering if anyone had any tips on potty training. My daughter is kind of big now and I don't think the communication is going well when I am trying to teach her to potty train. If anyone has any tips I would greatly appreciate it. And Any tips for getting her to eat on her own.
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> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:38:20 -0400
> From: "Jan Wright" <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindkid] looking for books
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> Hi,
> a parent in Indiana is looking for the following titles.
> If anyone has them and wants to loan or sell them, let me know.
> She is willing to buy.
> Thanks.
> 1. Parent Power by Joe Larson and Joe Cutter
> 2. About Blind Children by Joe Cutter
> 3. A Bibliography of Resources by Parents of Disabled Children by doris Wolaughby and Sharon Duffy.
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> Thanks much.
> Jan Wright
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jessica Stewart <jessicas25 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [blindkid] Change of e-mail address
> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
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> ???? My name is Jessica Stewart and I would like to say that I love recieving e-mails from you guys and I would like to keep them going so I want to inform you of my e-mail change.
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> Please make a note of it. Thank you and take care.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:00:12 -0500
> From: "Sally Thomas" <seacknit at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindkid] O&M maps
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
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> I'm curious about the use of orientation maps by blind people. My son's O&M instructor has him spend a lot of time creating tactile maps of his school. Do others do this? Do people use this kind of map in every day life? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me--if he is familiar with the environment why does he need a map? If he's not, wouldn't exploration be a good way to learn about the building?
>
> Sally Thomas
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