[blindkid] blindkid Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4
grace at babymilagro.org
grace at babymilagro.org
Wed Feb 4 20:54:00 UTC 2009
Another plug for the Mountbatten Learning System for the youngest Braille learners. My daughter is seven but the size of a five year- old...very tiny former micropreemie too.
Santa Claus paired up with my employer's Special Care assistance fund for families with kids with disabilities and we've had it up and running since Christmas Day.
Milagro ASKS to sit down and practice writing after school and on weekends. She is writing her name, some favorite words, and just practicing her letters. She never asked to do this when we had just the Perkins.
My favorite thing is the USB-connected QWERTY keyboard I use to write quickly and produce Braille shopping lists, notes, song lyrics, journal entries about family adventures. Nothing beats that.
I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.
Grace Tiscareno-Sato
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1. New site for braille book sharing (Debby B)
2. Re: 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
(Brandy with Discovery Toys)
3. Re: 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology (Tene Gibson)
4. Re: 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology (Tene Gibson)
5. Re: 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
(Andy & Sally Thomas)
6. Re: nonvisual teaching techniques (H. Field)
7. Re: 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
(Patricia Renfranz)
8. Re: nonvisual teaching techniques (Carol Castellano)
9. National Federation of the Blind to Attend World Bank
Workshop (Danielsen, Chris)
10. Braille writer (Meng, Debi)
11. Re: Braille writer (trising at sbcglobal.net)
12. Re: Braille writer (Christi-An Miceli)
13. Re: Braille writer (Jessica Trask)
14. Re: Braille writer (Marla Palmer)
15. Re: Braille writer (Robert Jaquiss)
16. Re: Braille writer (Bonnie Lucas)
17. Re: Braille writer (Jen and Bill O'Neill)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:02:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Debby B <bwbddl at yahoo.com>
Subject: [blindkid] New site for braille book sharing
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This came through another group today. Yay!
NFB ShareBraille
http://www.nfbshare braille.org/
NFB ShareBraille is a free service provided by the National Federation of
the Blind to promote the use and vitality of Braille. To trade your Braille
books or to request books from other NFB ShareBraille users, simply create a
free account and start exploring the available titles.
Debby
bwbddl at yahoo.com
www.nfbflorida.org/parents
Please support Braille literacy and programs for our youth by sponsoring me in
the Motor City March for Independence! Better yet, join the team of the FL Parents of Blind Children!
http://www.marchforindependence.org/goto/fpobc
http://www.marchforindependence.org/goto/debbyb
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:39:47 -0600
From: "Brandy with Discovery Toys" <branlw at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
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Hi, As others have said it is important that a blind child do math in
Braille. I did my math on the Braille writer through high school. I did
learn the abacus and used it for some of my math but when other kids had to
show their work so did I. This made a huge difference for me in college. I
was able to understand what professors were doing on the board with out
seeing it. I really think this is because I always did my math in nemith on
the Braille Writer. I think the math window may help especially for learning
concepts. I also didn't get a calculator till my peers did some time in 7 or
8th grade.Good luck. Bran
"We all have our time machines. Some take us back, they're called memories.
Some take us forward, they're called dreams."
Jeremy Irons
Brandy Wojcik
Discovery Toys Group Manager and Educational Consultant
Shop online any time!
www.playtoachieve.com
(512) 231-8697
Let me know if I can help with any of the following:
* Starting your own Discovery Toys business
* Best buy bundles allow you to shop at a discount year round
* How you can earn toys for free
* Gift baskets for all ages
* Gift certificates
* Office setups and much more
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tene Gibson" <g_tene305 at yahoo.com>
To: "BVI-parents" <bvi-parents at yahoogroups.com>; "(for parents of blind
children) NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:36 PM
Subject: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
Thanks to NCLB, I am finding that my 9yo is getting caught up in the crunch
to meet certain benchmarks with his sighted peers. Although I believe my
child is an exceptionally bright child, I am sensing that he is stressed out
by long division and multiplication (lining up problems on the Perkins being
the main culprit). He is a type A personality so perfection is his goal and
he gets caught up in the nuances of the problem set up instead of getting
the answer. From a sighted perspective, I can understand his angst when
having to go up, down, left, right, and sideways on a Perkins just for one
problem alone and sometimes having to start all over if not lined up
correctly. All we do with Math is erase with a pencil eraser.
My question I guess is when is the right to introduce technology into the
classroom curriculum. He is one and half years shy of being in middle
school. I have the Duxbury software, the screen reader, the notetaker, and
the embosser. When can we put Perkins down for limited use.
Tene
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:26:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Tene Gibson <g_tene305 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
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That I understand -?as far as regarding the problem set up - I understand the need to know this.? My issue is - Is there an easier assistive technology to do this on.? I am not looking for an easier way to get the answer - I want that concept learned as with the rest of his class.? I am looking at a workflow point of view. Last I heard the new Perkins is still on backorder - so we are still dealing with the oldy goldy - clunky hard key machine. Like does it make sense for Na'im to work thru the problem on his computer using Duxbury and a word document and to print it out using an embosser? Are there cons with this method and what are they? Are they just positional issues? Na'im is given 20 long division problems a night sometimes? - 2 per page may fit barring any mistakes.?
________________________________
From: Debra Baxley <debrabaxley at bellsouth.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 10:47:18 AM
Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
Somehow, doing Math with the Perkins brailler causes the concepts to be
understood better because of the physical movement on the page.? Because I
did Math with a Perkins brailler, I can now type a Math problem in print
because I understand the formatting so well.?
Debra
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From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Tene Gibson
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:50 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
How do we lessen the frustration?? Although I may agree some repitition, I
believe that in some circles that the "drilling" method, even in children
with sight, has been proven defunct.? Lord knows both of my children hold to
the standard "I did that already and I am not doing it again."? Na'im has no
problem identifying the? concept of math or the process it takes to get from
point?A to point B.? The issue is when do we move in the 21st century? When
do we grasp what we have available in the schools as far as technology is
concerned?? I learned how to start a fire by rubbing sticks, but I still
prefer matches or a lighter.
Tene
________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:28:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Tene Gibson <g_tene305 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
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What type of braille writer did you use?
________________________________
From: Brandy with Discovery Toys <branlw at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 6:39:47 PM
Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
Hi, As others have said it is important that a blind child do math in Braille. I did my math on the Braille writer through high school. I did learn the abacus and used it for some of my math but when other kids had to show their work so did I. This made a huge difference for me in college. I was able to understand what professors were doing on the board with out seeing it. I really think this is because I always did my math in nemith on the Braille Writer. I think the math window may help especially for learning concepts. I also didn't get a calculator till my peers did some time in 7 or 8th grade.Good luck. Bran
"We all have our time machines. Some take us back, they're called memories. Some take us forward, they're called dreams."
Jeremy Irons
Brandy Wojcik
Discovery Toys Group Manager and Educational Consultant
Shop online any time!
www.playtoachieve.com
(512) 231-8697
Let me know if I can help with any of the following:
* Starting your own Discovery Toys business
* Best buy bundles allow you to shop at a discount year round
* How you can earn toys for free
* Gift baskets for all ages
* Gift certificates
* Office setups and much more
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tene Gibson" <g_tene305 at yahoo.com>
To: "BVI-parents" <bvi-parents at yahoogroups.com>; "(for parents of blind children) NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:36 PM
Subject: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
Thanks to NCLB, I am finding that my 9yo is getting caught up in the crunch to meet certain benchmarks with his sighted peers. Although I believe my child is an exceptionally bright child, I am sensing that he is stressed out by long division and multiplication (lining up problems on the Perkins being the main culprit). He is a type A personality so perfection is his goal and he gets caught up in the nuances of the problem set up instead of getting the answer. From a sighted perspective, I can understand his angst when having to go up, down, left, right, and sideways on a Perkins just for one problem alone and sometimes having to start all over if not lined up correctly. All we do with Math is erase with a pencil eraser.
My question I guess is when is the right to introduce technology into the classroom curriculum. He is one and half years shy of being in middle school. I have the Duxbury software, the screen reader, the notetaker, and the embosser. When can we put Perkins down for limited use.
Tene
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:01:32 -0600
From: "Andy & Sally Thomas" <andysally at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
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Have you seen a Mountbatten Brailler? Since it is electric and has a light
touch, it might help.
Sally Thomas
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To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
That I understand - as far as regarding the problem set up - I understand
the need to know this. My issue is - Is there an easier assistive technology
to do this on. I am not looking for an easier way to get the answer - I want
that concept learned as with the rest of his class. I am looking at a
workflow point of view. Last I heard the new Perkins is still on backorder -
so we are still dealing with the oldy goldy - clunky hard key machine. Like
does it make sense for Na'im to work thru the problem on his computer using
Duxbury and a word document and to print it out using an embosser? Are there
cons with this method and what are they? Are they just positional issues?
Na'im is given 20 long division problems a night sometimes - 2 per page may
fit barring any mistakes.
________________________________
From: Debra Baxley <debrabaxley at bellsouth.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 10:47:18 AM
Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
Somehow, doing Math with the Perkins brailler causes the concepts to be
understood better because of the physical movement on the page. Because I
did Math with a Perkins brailler, I can now type a Math problem in print
because I understand the formatting so well.
Debra
-----Original Message-----
From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Tene Gibson
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:50 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
How do we lessen the frustration? Although I may agree some repitition, I
believe that in some circles that the "drilling" method, even in children
with sight, has been proven defunct. Lord knows both of my children hold to
the standard "I did that already and I am not doing it again." Na'im has no
problem identifying the concept of math or the process it takes to get from
point A to point B. The issue is when do we move in the 21st century? When
do we grasp what we have available in the schools as far as technology is
concerned? I learned how to start a fire by rubbing sticks, but I still
prefer matches or a lighter.
Tene
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:02:56 -0600
From: "H. Field" <missheather at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] nonvisual teaching techniques
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <ECBBD4206892442EAC6DA1DC2F89C27C at heathersony>
The achives of The Blind Educators list has a lot of e-mails detailing
various nonvisual techniques blind teachers use.
You can also join the blind teachers group on yahoo groups and look at
that archive as well.
Most of the time blind students ask the same basic questions: how to
manage behaviour, call students by their names, discipline, mark
written work, manage assignments, assuage the fears of parents and
colleagues etc. Most this is discussed at length in the archives of
both e-mail lists.
Regards,
Heather
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From: "Carol Castellano" <carol_castellano at verizon.net>
To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:20 PM
Subject: [blindkid] nonvisual teaching techniques
Hi All,
I'm trying to find out about the nonvisual techniques used by blind
elementary school teachers in the regular classroom. I have sent an
email to the blind educators list but thought I'd query here as
well. If anyone has info, please write me on or off the list.
Thanks!
Carol
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:16:31 -0700
From: Patricia Renfranz <dblair2525 at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
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Sounds awfully tedious.
In 4th grade, my daughter used an abacus for computation and a Perkins
Brailler to record answers.
In 7th grade, she is still using a Perkins for all of her algebra work. We
are planning on trying software called Nemetex that handles linear (so, not
long division as would be set up in print) math in a way to go from
BrailleNote to inkprint. However, our issues with technology, learning
another piece of software, etc... make us leery of moving in this direction
too quickly.
Setting up math on the computer is not always easy - maybe for a division
problem it is straightforward, I don't know. For more complicated math
people use Math ML and such. It's doubly difficult to get that compatible
with accessibility software. When I spent a little time on the math
listserv, I thought, this is going to have to come later.
Maybe a compromise would be to use the "Math window" on a problem or 2, to
show the teacher he knows how to set up a division problem, then have him
gain the abacus skills so that the computation is less cumbersome? In the
meantime, two resources are Susan Osterhaus at TSBVI and Gaylen Kapperman at
Northern Illinois University, who may better be able to steer you towards a
technology-based way to get through this. You might also pose the question
on the NFB's math listserv.
Good luck,
Pat
--
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801-582-2293
> From: Tene Gibson <g_tene305 at yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:26:34 -0800 (PST)
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
>
> That I understand -?as far as regarding the problem set up - I understand the
> need to know this.? My issue is - Is there an easier assistive technology to
> do this on.? I am not looking for an easier way to get the answer - I want
> that concept learned as with the rest of his class.? I am looking at a
> workflow point of view. Last I heard the new Perkins is still on backorder -
> so we are still dealing with the oldy goldy - clunky hard key machine. Like
> does it make sense for Na'im to work thru the problem on his computer using
> Duxbury and a word document and to print it out using an embosser? Are there
> cons with this method and what are they? Are they just positional issues?
> Na'im is given 20 long division problems a night sometimes? - 2 per page may
> fit barring any mistakes.?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Debra Baxley <debrabaxley at bellsouth.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 10:47:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
>
> Somehow, doing Math with the Perkins brailler causes the concepts to be
> understood better because of the physical movement on the page.? Because I
> did Math with a Perkins brailler, I can now type a Math problem in print
> because I understand the formatting so well.?
>
> Debra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Tene Gibson
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:50 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
>
> How do we lessen the frustration?? Although I may agree some repitition, I
> believe that in some circles that the "drilling" method, even in children
> with sight, has been proven defunct.? Lord knows both of my children hold to
> the standard "I did that already and I am not doing it again."? Na'im has no
> problem identifying the? concept of math or the process it takes to get from
> point?A to point B.? The issue is when do we move in the 21st century? When
> do we grasp what we have available in the schools as far as technology is
> concerned?? I learned how to start a fire by rubbing sticks, but I still
> prefer matches or a lighter.
>
> Tene
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:52:35 -0500
From: Carol Castellano <blindchildren at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] nonvisual teaching techniques
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
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Thank you, Heather.
Carol
At 10:02 PM 2/3/2009, you wrote:
>The achives of The Blind Educators list has a lot of e-mails detailing
>various nonvisual techniques blind teachers use.
>
>You can also join the blind teachers group on yahoo groups and look at
>that archive as well.
>
>Most of the time blind students ask the same basic questions: how to
>manage behaviour, call students by their names, discipline, mark
>written work, manage assignments, assuage the fears of parents and
>colleagues etc. Most this is discussed at length in the archives of
>both e-mail lists.
>
>Regards,
>
>Heather
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Carol Castellano" <carol_castellano at verizon.net>
>To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:20 PM
>Subject: [blindkid] nonvisual teaching techniques
>
>
>Hi All,
>
>I'm trying to find out about the nonvisual techniques used by blind
>elementary school teachers in the regular classroom. I have sent an
>email to the blind educators list but thought I'd query here as
>well. If anyone has info, please write me on or off the list.
>
>Thanks!
>Carol
>
>
>
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>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:03:26 -0600
From: "Danielsen, Chris" <CDanielsen at nfb.org> (by way of David Andrews
<dandrews at visi.com>)
Subject: [blindkid] National Federation of the Blind to Attend World
Bank Workshop
To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
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Dear Fellow Federationists:
Dr. Fredric Schroeder, first vice president of the National
Federation of the Blind, will address the World Bank workshop:
"Actuality of Braille in Different Socioeconomic Settings," on
February 10, 2009, at World Bank headquarters in Washington, DC. The
workshop, sponsored by the World Bank HDNSP, Education for All - Fast
Track Initiative, GPDD, and the National Federation of the Blind, is
intended to highlight the usability and affordability of Braille in
all socioeconomic settings. The event will focus on current use of
Braille in education in Africa and Latin America, with live
interviews via videoconference with Kampala, Montevideo, and Sao Paulo.
Registration is required for the workshop and registered guests may
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:10:37 -0600
From: "Meng, Debi" <Meng at sccompanies.com>
Subject: [blindkid] Braille writer
To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
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Jonathan will never read print so it is imperative that we get him
started learning Braille. We currently have the old metal Perkins
brailler. This is very hard for our 3 year old to press the keys.
Are there other Braille writers available for very young beginners?
Debi
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:58:50 -0500
From: <trising at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Braille writer
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
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There is a new Perkins Brailler out that supposedly has keys that are easier
to press. As to the old Braillers, I learned to use one at age 4. It was a
little tough to press the keys, but I was so excited to be doing what the
big kids were doing, I wrote my letters and would not admit my hands were
tired until the teachers made me stop.
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:01:07 +0000
From: Christi-An Miceli <christi_an at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Braille writer
To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
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I can't speak to an easier braille writer. I do remember a kindergarten teacher tell me that to strengthen my eldest daugher's hand strength to play with playdo. If you don't like the mess with playdo than try some different shaped stress balls.
Christi-An
As for me and my family, we will serve the Lord.
Joshua 24:15> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:10:37 -0600> From: Meng at sccompanies.com> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org> Subject: [blindkid] Braille writer> > > Jonathan will never read print so it is imperative that we get him> started learning Braille. We currently have the old metal Perkins> brailler. This is very hard for our 3 year old to press the keys.> Are there other Braille writers available for very young beginners? > > Debi > _______________________________________________> blindkid mailing list> blindkid at nfbnet.org> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindkid:> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/christi_an%40msn.com
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:39:38 -0500
From: Jessica Trask <jess28 at samobile.net>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Braille writer
To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
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Debi,
There is a newer version of the classic perkins braille writer out.
It's sold by the American Printing House for the Blind in Louisville
Kentucky. When I was listening to the coverage of ATIA through SAM Net
Radio. They interviewed someone for from the Printing house and he said
as of right now the Brailler was on back order and he also said that
all the back orders would be filled by the springtime. The other option
is to an Electronic Brailler. you can go to either
www.perkinsbrailler.org or www.aph.org or www.perkinsproducts.org
--
Jessica Trask
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:39:49 -0700
From: Marla Palmer <palmermommy at q.com>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Braille writer
To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>, <pobc-presidents at nfbnet.org>
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This past Sunday, the Salt Lake Tribune ran a front page article on Katie Colton. Kuddos to Julia Lyon for writing a nice piece!
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_11604505?IADID=Search-www.sltrib.com-www.sltrib.com
http://166.70.44.68/multimedia/2009/Katie_Colton/index.html
Katie
is a delightful teenager with a huge imagination and even bigger heart.
Her mom (Dr.) Denise Colton is the Vice President of the UPBC and Board
Member of the NOPBC
Marla PalmerPresident, Utah Parents of Blind Children (UPBC)1062 E.
Fairway DriveNorth Salt Lake, Utah 84054801-797-9760www.upobc.blogspot.com?The
greatest danger for most of us lies in not setting our aim too high and falling
short, but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.?
**Michelangelo
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:14:40 -0600
From: "Robert Jaquiss" <rjaquiss at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Braille writer
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
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Hello Debi:
It is possible to get Extension keys for a Perkins. These attach to the
keys making them longer and thus giving the user more leverage. Perkins also
sells an Electric Perkins. The Montbatten might be an option, but it's
expensive and I wonder how durable they are.
Regards,
Robert Jaquiss
----- Original Message -----
From: "Meng, Debi" <Meng at sccompanies.com>
To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:10 AM
Subject: [blindkid] Braille writer
>
> Jonathan will never read print so it is imperative that we get him
> started learning Braille. We currently have the old metal Perkins
> brailler. This is very hard for our 3 year old to press the keys.
> Are there other Braille writers available for very young beginners?
>
> Debi
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:39:43 -0500
From: "Bonnie Lucas" <lucas.bonnie at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Braille writer
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
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I did not start using the Braille writer until I was six because my parents
did not take me to the blind school until I was six. We lived in a very
rural location and in those days there was no such thing as early childhood
intervention. I weighed 40 lb and I still remember that it was very hard to
press the keys and at first I was frustrated. However, with consistent
practice and encouragement from my teachers, I learned to write. We were
rewarded with a ccandy bar for writing our first and last name. My daugher,
Aubrie, has only used the perkins, the one I won in fourth grade in 1965, to
learn to write with and she has done fine. Encourage just pressing any key
and making dots at first. then just have your little one write one dot at a
time and make a whole line of that one dot. the finger strength will
eventually be built up. Remember, that for a sighted child to learn to form
letters, it takes litterally hundreds of hours of scribbling. Best of luck.
Bonnie Lucas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Meng, Debi" <Meng at sccompanies.com>
To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:10 AM
Subject: [blindkid] Braille writer
>
> Jonathan will never read print so it is imperative that we get him
> started learning Braille. We currently have the old metal Perkins
> brailler. This is very hard for our 3 year old to press the keys.
> Are there other Braille writers available for very young beginners?
>
> Debi
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:26:03 -0600
From: "Jen and Bill O'Neill" <jenbilloneill at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Braille writer
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
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Debi,
Our daughter, Camille, is now 4 years old and she has taken off with her
Braille on a Mountbatten Braillewriter this year. We love it for her. She
is a peanut as she was a micropreemie, so lacked the strength to push the
keys on a typical Perkins. Her hands are very small as well, so the key
positioning on a traditional Perkins was not ideal...yet we knew she was
cognitively ready to go full speed ahead with it. To make things more
interesting, she has a limited amount of vision in one eye and loves to try
to use it. Even though she can read large print now, it is face to the book
and in my opinion, will not be reliable or efficient enough for her to use
as her main medium AND writing print is nearly impossible at this point as
visual motor skills are hard due to her spotty vision. We were very set on
getting her started on Braille with technology that was appropriate for her
so that she would be willing to use it as much as she wants to try to read
print and keep her at the reading level we know that she is capable of. The
Mountbatten has served that purpose very well. It is electronic, more
ergonomically suitable for little fingers, and has many advanced functions
that will allow for some growing room as your son gets into elementary
school. Additionally, it has speech feedback, which I love as it is so fun
to watch Camille participate in incidental learning by listening to what
she's typing and it has the capability to communicate with a PC and has a
screen so a non-braille reader can tell what is being typed in braille. The
drawback---it's expensive. The entire Mountbatten learning system is around
$4000. Maybe a good time to approach your TVI or see if there is a loan
program in your state. Camille doesn't go to a school for the blind, but if
you have one in your state, they often have every kind of technology and may
be able to let you try one out as well or at least show it to you.
Appropriate technology at this age is a big debate still, but don't be
afraid to push for it if you think it's appropriate. It has made a
difference for Camille in the speed with which she has been able to pick up
learning Braille.
The website is www.mountbattenbrailler.com
Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
Jen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Meng, Debi" <Meng at sccompanies.com>
To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:10 AM
Subject: [blindkid] Braille writer
>
> Jonathan will never read print so it is imperative that we get him
> started learning Braille. We currently have the old metal Perkins
> brailler. This is very hard for our 3 year old to press the keys.
> Are there other Braille writers available for very young beginners?
>
> Debi
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