[blindkid] Leaving classes early

Peter Donahue pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net
Sun Jan 25 18:29:48 UTC 2009


Hello Kim and listers,

    Many of us delt with crowded halls, excess baggage, stress, and all the 
rest without asking for such "Accommodations." God help her when it comes 
time for her to find a job! By doing this you're setting her up for failure 
in life, and to believe that the World owes her a living and must adjust 
itself to her needs rather than teaching her the alternative techniques and 
coping methods many of us mastered and have used for years.

Peter Donahue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kim Cunningham" <kim at gulfimagesphoto.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)" 
<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Leaving classes early


Well....I guess that I may be the only parent on the list serv who sees the 
need for my daughter to leave class 5 minutes early. I thought about not 
posting, but I'm open for critism this morning! Don't be too harsh with 
me....
My daughter is in the 11th grade and has left her class 5 minutes early 
since 7th grade. She wears a watch and begins packing up her laptop, books, 
etc and heads out at the appropriate time (no reminders from the teacher). 
There are quite a few "sighted" kids who are in the hallway at the same time 
for various reasons due to injuries, etc. My daughter carries a very heavy 
backpack with a laptop, books, technology, and binders while using her cane. 
She is rather small and must lean forward for balance. The school is 2 story 
and she is constantly up and down stairs. The school is dealing with a huge 
influx in population due to rezoning with around 3000 kids. My daughter's 
sighted friends complain about getting to and from classes while carrying 
one book and a binder. There are times when she hasn't left 5 minutes early 
and gets caught in the traffic. She has found that she has a hard time 
getting to her locker as the other kids are blocking her access
 while they get their belongings and they also gather in groups outside of 
classrooms to chat causing the hallways to be blocked. At these times, she 
ends up being frustrated and rushed, sometimes arriving just seconds before 
the bell. Then she is rushed about getting her laptop set up and loaded for 
the begining of class (Some of the programs and textbooks take a while to 
load). There is no time to visit with friends when this happens. When she 
leaves 5 minutes early, she goes to her locker and arrives at class early 
enough to still talk with her friends and have her technology ready to 
start. During this time she is also able to talk with her teacher and get 
clarification about what is needed for the day and will prepare for it with 
the appropriate technology. I believe that my daughter should act and be 
treated equally as a blind person, but what about taking into consideration 
all the "extras" that our kids must handle as a blind person. Do we
 expect our children to go above and beyond what we expect for their peers? 
Most all of our kids attend the same class schedule as the other kids, but 
must also have O&M lessons, TBS services, braille instruction, etc. There 
are only so many hours in a day to get something accomplished and if leaving 
class 5 minutes early helps to alleviate some stress, then I'm OK with it, 
as is my daughter.
Just my two cents.
Kim Cunningham

--- On Sat, 1/24/09, Barbara.Mathews at sce.com <Barbara.Mathews at sce.com> 
wrote:

From: Barbara.Mathews at sce.com <Barbara.Mathews at sce.com>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Leaving classes early
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)" 
<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 4:26 PM

My advice is to just say "No thank you.". My daughter attended a large
middle school.  She is totally blind and her orientation skill isn't that
great, but she got herself from class to class just fine. We did include in 
her
IEP an accommodation that she would not be penalized for being tardy to a 
class
if it was due to orientation problems, but this was intended primarily for 
the
beginning of the year when she was still learning the routes or if there was 
a
change in schedule or something that meant she wouldn't follow the usual
route.  We wanted to make sure she would handle those situations 
independently
without undue stress about being late.  We also told the teachers that the
accommodation didn't apply if she was goofing off between classes.

I asked her about this 5 minutes early idea, and she thought it was silly. 
She
also said you would miss less if you got to class a little late because it
usually takes a while for class to settle down.

I also wonder who would tell your son it's time to leave 5 minutes before
the bell rings.  Kyra's teachers wouldn't have interrupted what they
were doing for that.  If some other adult would come into the room for that
reason, how embarrassing for a middle school kid! For an otherwise typical 
blind
kid, not a good idea.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy & Sally Thomas" [andysally at comcast.net]
Sent: 01/24/2009 07:38 AM CST
To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindkid] Leaving classes early



My son's O&M instructor has told him that next year in junior high he
will be dismissed from classes 5 minutes early in order to get a head start 
into
the halls to make it to his next class. I'm wondering if most of the blind
kids out there get this "accommodation."  I personally think it is an
opportunity to miss some afterthought the teacher has and to be singled out 
and
isolated in the classroom. Walking to classes with friends is one of the few
times kids have for private conversations.  Would you share your experiences
with this?

Sally Thomas
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