[blindkid] never stands still

Heather craney07 at rochester.rr.com
Sat Jun 12 17:11:18 UTC 2010

Regarding the netting around the trampoline.  Ours currently only has a 
handel, and I've never scene one with netting in person.  Does it attach in 
such a way that the child bouncing against it hard enough could either tip 
over the whole unit or slip down between the netting and the rim of the 
trampoline?  Also, when I was eight or so I loved jumping outside on a 
totally blind friend's large outdoor round trampoline.  I could see the 
shiney metal edge, which was not padded as it should be, but that did wind 
up helping me see it.  I remember coming back four years later when my sight 
was giving out and being so frustrated that I didn't feel safe enough to 
jump and chase my friend around or travel much as I jumped.  Jumping in 
place or seat drops were all I could really do with out getting paranoid and 
dropping to all fours to check where the edge was.  In hindsite, I wonder 
how she managed not breaking her neck, as she had not even light perception, 
two prosthetic eyes and was, in her everyday life outside of a pool and not 
on a trampoline, a rather clutsy, love her to bits, but it's true, 
individual.  She must have had some crazy facial perception or something of 
that sort.  Funny how things are sometimes.  Do you find that Kendra bumps 
into the netting often?  Or, is it a rare thing, also how big is the jump 
surface, as one that is two by two for instance would probably have more net 
colisions than one that was four by four.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway at gopbc.org>
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)" 
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Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [blindkid] never stands still

Does the Reebok happen to have both a handle or net surround and
traditional (metal) springs? There must be more around that are better
built than I have found. Many of the trampolines for kids have some
sort of bungee solution for the springs and those all give up after a

What I really want is basically what I have except with springs that
hook to (or around with some sort of mount) the frame in a non-self-
destructive way. I only went searching hard for a design with real
springs that looked stronger once we broke our fourth unit with
bungees (well, the first was really with elastic straps).

I have seen one unit on-line that is rated for a 300 pound adult and
has a handle to hold as you jump, but none like what we have that is
small with a surround that looks any stronger than ours. The nice
thing with the surround netting is Kendra can be relatively safe
jumping without holding a handle. It gives her more options and I
suspect also helps develop more lateral stability and control than
with having to hold onto a bar to jump (or risk flying off to one side).


On Jun 11, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Kathy B wrote:

> We got our trampoline from ToysRUs for about $60.00.  It's a  Reebok.  The 
> only problem we've had with it is my daughter jumps so  hard we had to 
> attach weights to it.  Once we did that it's been  wonderful.
> Kathy
> ________________________________
> From: Richard Holloway <rholloway at gopbc.org>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)" 
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 1:38:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] never stands still
> Sure,
> The best we've found so far (our fifth small trampoline) has been  our 
> Bazoongi 55" Junior Combo Trampoline with Teclon Pad. (That's  the 
> official name on the web site.) I mention this with some  reservation 
> because we have had some problems with it, but it  has  been better than 
> our first four... All of these small units seem to  be within a foot or 
> less from the floor.
> It has steel springs which I thought would solve everything over our 
> previous elastic and bungee "springs". Well, the springs mount into 
> little slots in the frame. Jump enough and the edge of the punched  slot 
> and the hook of the spring rub one another. The holes get  longer while 
> the springs get thinner. After about six months,  springs began to break. 
> (The hook ends simply snap off.) They sent  replacements but then I 
> realized the frame was getting damaged  (slots tearing to the center of 
> the frame, my oversight-- could not  see that before I took it apart to 
> add the springs though). They  sent a new frame but then I realized they 
> sent the wrong frame (too  small, their mistake). They sent another frame 
> but then I realized  we were short on springs from the first batch (also 
> their mistake).  Finally they sent 40 more springs and I replaced every 
> one again.  All this took several weeks and I expect to have springs 
> failing  again this fall sometime and suspect the
> frame could be getting unsafe a few months after that. People at  Bazoongi 
> were very nice and polite and all parts and shipping to  date have been 
> free but the hassle factor is still pretty high.
> Bottom line is that any of these $100-range products simply seem not  to 
> be designed to last for a terribly long time.
> The Intex Jump-O-Lene (I assume that's the one?) looks fun, but my  first 
> reaction is the sides look low enough that a jumper could  vault over the 
> side. Also, ultimately most of these blow-up units  spring leaks and 
> deflate. This becomes a huge pain, re-inflating  over and again until the 
> leaks are so fast that you can't use them  anymore. Adult weight may also 
> pop them if you have to crawl in to  rescue a child with a "boo-boo", for 
> example. Usually patch kits are  included but these often fail to stop the 
> leaks properly. The  trampoline above has about 6 feet of surround netting 
> so there's no  chance of that, though you can fall out the door if the 
> netting  tears up or the "door" is not closed.
> For something smaller than the Bazoongi we have, I'd probably look  on 
> their same page at the 48"  Bazoongi® Bouncer. (Comes in pink or  orange 
> camo.) This one is $100. (The next one up is only $7 more.)  The key 
> difference is that the 55" unit has no actual handle but  tall sides with 
> netting while the 48" has no surround netting but  does have a padded, 
> "inverted-U" handle. Smaller kids could probably  do better with the 
> handle, but if they do let go, there is no safety  net so think of that 
> when you set it up. All of these small units  (like the 48" and the 55") 
> seem to be within a foot or less from the  floor. Carpet with a pad is 
> better than a hard floor. Pillows around  it might help, but put them out 
> far enough to catch a rebounding  child.
> Here is the Bazoongi page:
> http://www.bazoongi.com/trampoline.htm
> You could also go in the inflatable bounce house direction of you  have 
> enough space and can tolerate the noise of the blower.  Honestly, I'd want 
> a basement room to use these inside but they are  great to softly stop a 
> fall and the surround nets are strong.  However they'd completely fill 
> most of our living rooms, especially  when you factor in the blower that 
> has to run all the time it is up.  Better for most of us to find outdoor 
> space but then you have winter  snow and summer mosquitos to factor in or 
> whatever local  frustrations mother nature will throw your way.
> I hope that helps a bit.
> If anyone else has some better recommendations, please jump in with  them. 
> I know of more durable solutions but they are in the larger  trampoline 
> and bounce house realm. They require a chunk of outdoor  space and are 
> from several hundred dollars to up in the $1000-plus  range for even the 
> lower end offerings in that arena.
> Richard
> On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Heather wrote:
>> Richard, this might be off topic, but since you brought it up,  could you 
>> please recommend a good quality small toddler trampoline  and then maybe 
>> one for slightly larger kids?  We baught Jeremy one  when he out grew his 
>> baby jumper at around 12 months old, but the  one we got was a pain to 
>> set up, has very little bounce, is very  small considering the amount of 
>> space it takes up and is already  showing signs of ware and tare and 
>> Jeremy only jumps about thirty  to forty minutes a day.  It's funny that 
>> you mention all that your  daughter does on hers.  Jeremy loves to watch 
>> TV, listen to the  radeo, sing, talk to himself, or his checkered towel, 
>> his version  of a security blanket, even look at books or pet the cat who 
>> has  learned that for pats he needs to stand on the table where Jeremy's 
>> bouncing hand will pat, but not hit him while meowing up a storm to  go 
>> with the toddler babble.  I am always having to stop him from  bringing 
>> his sippy cup or finger food snack
> up there with him.  In a pinch for time with Jeremy in a pissy mood  I 
> have even managed diaper changes and clothing changes while he  jumped 
> lightly.  lol  He never jumps for more than five minutes at a  time, but 
> he will do it through out the day, and if thwarted by time  constraints, 
> it is clear that his mood and receptiveness to learning  suffers if he 
> can't jump.  His other thing, that I will post about  and ask some thing 
> about later is going up and down and up and down  our stairs for up to an 
> hour and forty minutes with various games  and make-believe employed while 
> doing it.  So, second the trampoline  recommendation, add the 
> recommendation for something called a  jumpaline, a mini bounce house for 
> the living room that Jeremy also  recommends, as he has one of those at 
> Jim's house and the trampoline  at mine, , and request recommendations for 
> spacific trampolines that  pass the Kendra ceal of approval.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holloway" 
>> <rholloway at gopbc.org
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>> To: <empwrn at bellsouth.net>; "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for  parents 
>> of blind children)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindkid] never stands still
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