[blindkid] Transision to Kindergarten
Trudy Pickrel
tlpickrel at hotmail.com
Tue May 3 17:36:38 UTC 2011
The first thing I got before PK was a Technology Evaluation giving a time line by years and grade as what the child will need. This does two thing Lets the School board prepare a year or more in advance for setting aside budget and helps you follow thru and stay on top of them to make sure it is there the first day of school each year. You also can ask for a O& M Evaluation. Our son had 2 hrs a day of TVI for k-2 and at 3 the second hr was worked into his class time, so that he was not pulled out during critical classes. He starts his day with his TVI as soon as the bus stops before all the rest of the kids get off the bus. While the other kid had not got off the bus yet or where getting breakfast. He had in 45 minutes already that would not have to be pull out time. And also again at the end of the day a rap up time.
As for Technology. Go for what he will need in the future. So he is not learning and relearning screen readers. Also get that work is to be to your TVI or Transcriber 2 wks ahead so his work is there when everyone else is. This is a courteousy to your TVI also, and they will thank you for having it in the IEP.
With Technology you will want to stay a yr ahead so he has that yr to be learning it before he is needing it in the class room. This also goes for Anything educational. This yr in PK he should be reading and starting on contractions. He will need them by 2 grade.
Trudy L. Pickrel
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> 2. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (H. Field)
> 3. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Erin Teply)
> 4. adapting science presentation (Godwin, Swatara)
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> From: "slemmonrn at spotlight-music.com" <slemmonrn at spotlight-music.com>
> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
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> My daughter is now completing first grade, this is her first year in public
> school. For kindergarten we kept her at a small Catholic school. We found
> she needed additional support that was unable to be provided for by the
> private school. Things I have included on her IEP are a PCA (aide) for
> safety, assembly of materials, enlargements, etc.. She is partially
> sighted. We have an adobe Acrobat, task lighting and slant board. She is
> learning keyboarding skills. She is also learning Braille and has a
> Perkins's Brailler. We also have her as 'line leader' so she can go first
> with transitions and not take everyone out with her cane. This part she
> loves! Preferential seating, away from windows. Anything you think you want
> or would benefit your child, get it in writing. Make sure they have
> already ordered enlarged print or Braille texts for next year, one set for
> home and one for school. Flashcards the kids use for 'sight' words,
> prepared in advance in large text or Braille. I couldn't believe the volume
> of homework in 1st grade.
>
> Best wishes on a smooth transition!
>
> Stacy
>
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> 3. Transition to Kindergarten (Eleanor Robinson)
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> 5. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Meng, Debi)
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> From: "Jaquiss, Robert" <RJaquiss at nfb.org>
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> Hello:
>
> It is my opinion that if sighted children are using computers at an
> early age, then blind children should have the same opportunities.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> Robert Jaquiss
> National Federation of the Blind
> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:34 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
>
> How about the free NVDA? It has most of the same functions and keystrokes
> as
> Jaws does. And also at what age is it right to start kids on computers?
> because talking to some who are now in their late teens they say they
> started at around age six. is this too early?
> GErardo
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway at gopbc.org>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
>
>
> I haven't been following this thread but as far as a screen reader, while
> JAWS may be more expensive than what is needed, often-- especially for
> small
> kids, it can be used for free in "demo mode". I always forget how long it
> will go-- seems like 40 or 50 minutes, but it is generally long enough for
> the length of lessons kids usually have at a young age.
>
> There certainly is some software that is self-voicing, but it is good to
> have a screen reader available as well if possible. I like the idea of
> getting the kids familiar with JAWS from an early age as they are likely to
> be using it for a very long time. The retail package costs $900 or $1000,
> but the free demo is the exact same software, only with a time expiration.
> To reset the clock you have to reboot the machine.
>
> This is also great to know about if they tell you they have "no funds for a
> screen reader". It can be downloaded for free or Freedom Scientific also
> distributes demo CD's with this on it.
>
> Incidentally, if you want to buy it after the demo is already loaded, you
> don't even install the software again, you just enter an activation "key".
> At least how it has worked for many years. I have not run the "demo"
> version
> in a year or more.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Aaron Cannon wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > Some other thoughts from my own daughters Kindergarten experience (she
> > is sighted, I am blind):
> >
> > My daughter's class had the opportunity to use computers for short
> > periods throughout the year, and were she blind, I would likely ask
> > that she also be allowed to use a computer with some adaptive tech. I
> > realize that it might be a little for a full-blown screen reader, but
> > there are, I believe, some self-voicing software titles aimed at that
> > age group.
> >
> > I would also make sure the IEP included cane travel instruction. A
> > lot of cane travel instruction.
> >
> > That's all that occurs to me that hasn't already been mentioned.
> >
> > Good luck, and don't settle for anything less than everything you need.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> > On 4/29/11, Penny Duffy <pennyduffy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a
> >> sighted
> >> kindergartener who started first grade blind.
> >>
> >> I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different
> >> and
> >> thats with the individual part comes into play with an IEP. No one knows
> >> your child like you do.
> >>
> >> There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My daughter
> (who
> >> is
> >> in first grade and just learned braille) had both in her IEP.
> >> Kindergarten
> >> kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should
> >> be
> >> your son's goal. The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille
> >> for
> >> reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some of which I
> >> still dont' understand LOL)
> >>
> >> My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the
> >> IEP
> >> to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for the computer
> >> when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
> >> I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home
> >> and
> >> at school. Every child is different in what they need. Those items that
> >> the
> >> child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
> >> visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
> >>
> >> How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for
> >> every
> >> single child. My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
> >>
> >> Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals. Its an area that gets
> >> forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district
> >> has
> >> with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O & M once a week
> >> and
> >> uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O & M is important.
> >>
> >> Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra
> >> help
> >> he may need. A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
> >> independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
> >> important that all the materials are the right format for him. Abby's
> >> aid
> >> spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
> >> brailling papers and books.
> >>
> >> Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the
> >> classroom
> >> your child is able to do some how. Even fluff work.
> >>
> >> Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
> >> Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look
> >> and
> >> see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
> >> if the school district will pay for them.
> >>
> >> Its always better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
> >> expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
> >>
> >> Thats all I have to to share :) there are some wonderful resources for
> >> IEPs
> >> I don't know where to direct you. We just did our IEP in November and I
> >> was
> >> pretty clueless.
> >> --
> >> --Penny
> >> ----------
> >> Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Erin Teply <eteply at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am preparing for our IEP roll-up meeting as my son Max will be
> >>> starting
> >>> kindergarten next year. He is my first child to attend public school,
> >>> so
> >>> the process is new to me and I have so many questions around how they
> >>> place
> >>> kids in the classroom, what they consider, etc. I also have questions
> >>> as
> >>> to what 'should be' on his IEP as educational goals aren't necessarily
> >>> going
> >>> to be on as he will have the same goals as everyone else. I've got
> >>> questions on what technology should be introduced, if any, along with
> >>> his
> >>> Perkins Brailler. Because I feel like there is so much I don't know, I
> >>> am
> >>> sending a letter to the school prior to the meeting to make sure all my
> >>> questions are addressed.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has a child close in age or can remember what they did prior
> >>> to
> >>> kindergarten with respect to placement, IEP goals, technology and
> >>> anything
> >>> else, please share with me what you can.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks so much,
> >>> Erin Teply
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 15:05:18 -0500
> From: "Thea Eaton" <thea at doodledoo.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind
> children\)'" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
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> The only keys necessary to successfully navigate Flash content on the web
> with a screen reader, are the up and down arrow keys and the Enter or Space
> bar. I have heard of children as young as 3 being able to use a screen
> readerlike this online. It is never too early to get your child started with
> adaptive tech. Hopefully, in the future there will be more sites that are
> screen reader accessible available to access and also practice their screen
> reader skills on.
>
> Thea Eaton
> DoodleDoo
> www.doodledoo.com
> Where early birds learn.
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jaquiss, Robert
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:06 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
>
> Hello:
>
> It is my opinion that if sighted children are using computers at an
> early age, then blind children should have the same opportunities.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> Robert Jaquiss
> National Federation of the Blind
> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:34 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
>
> How about the free NVDA? It has most of the same functions and keystrokes as
>
> Jaws does. And also at what age is it right to start kids on computers?
> because talking to some who are now in their late teens they say they
> started at around age six. is this too early?
> GErardo
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway at gopbc.org>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
>
>
> I haven't been following this thread but as far as a screen reader, while
> JAWS may be more expensive than what is needed, often-- especially for small
>
> kids, it can be used for free in "demo mode". I always forget how long it
> will go-- seems like 40 or 50 minutes, but it is generally long enough for
> the length of lessons kids usually have at a young age.
>
> There certainly is some software that is self-voicing, but it is good to
> have a screen reader available as well if possible. I like the idea of
> getting the kids familiar with JAWS from an early age as they are likely to
> be using it for a very long time. The retail package costs $900 or $1000,
> but the free demo is the exact same software, only with a time expiration.
> To reset the clock you have to reboot the machine.
>
> This is also great to know about if they tell you they have "no funds for a
> screen reader". It can be downloaded for free or Freedom Scientific also
> distributes demo CD's with this on it.
>
> Incidentally, if you want to buy it after the demo is already loaded, you
> don't even install the software again, you just enter an activation "key".
> At least how it has worked for many years. I have not run the "demo" version
>
> in a year or more.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Aaron Cannon wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > Some other thoughts from my own daughters Kindergarten experience (she
> > is sighted, I am blind):
> >
> > My daughter's class had the opportunity to use computers for short
> > periods throughout the year, and were she blind, I would likely ask
> > that she also be allowed to use a computer with some adaptive tech. I
> > realize that it might be a little for a full-blown screen reader, but
> > there are, I believe, some self-voicing software titles aimed at that
> > age group.
> >
> > I would also make sure the IEP included cane travel instruction. A
> > lot of cane travel instruction.
> >
> > That's all that occurs to me that hasn't already been mentioned.
> >
> > Good luck, and don't settle for anything less than everything you need.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> > On 4/29/11, Penny Duffy <pennyduffy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a
> >> sighted
> >> kindergartener who started first grade blind.
> >>
> >> I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different
> >> and
> >> thats with the individual part comes into play with an IEP. No one knows
> >> your child like you do.
> >>
> >> There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My daughter (who
>
> >> is
> >> in first grade and just learned braille) had both in her IEP.
> >> Kindergarten
> >> kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should
> >> be
> >> your son's goal. The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille
> >> for
> >> reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some of which I
> >> still dont' understand LOL)
> >>
> >> My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the
> >> IEP
> >> to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for the computer
> >> when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
> >> I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home
> >> and
> >> at school. Every child is different in what they need. Those items that
> >> the
> >> child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
> >> visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
> >>
> >> How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for
> >> every
> >> single child. My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
> >>
> >> Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals. Its an area that gets
> >> forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district
> >> has
> >> with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O & M once a week
> >> and
> >> uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O & M is important.
> >>
> >> Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra
> >> help
> >> he may need. A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
> >> independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
> >> important that all the materials are the right format for him. Abby's
> >> aid
> >> spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
> >> brailling papers and books.
> >>
> >> Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the
> >> classroom
> >> your child is able to do some how. Even fluff work.
> >>
> >> Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
> >> Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look
> >> and
> >> see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
> >> if the school district will pay for them.
> >>
> >> Its always better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
> >> expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
> >>
> >> Thats all I have to to share :) there are some wonderful resources for
> >> IEPs
> >> I don't know where to direct you. We just did our IEP in November and I
> >> was
> >> pretty clueless.
> >> --
> >> --Penny
> >> ----------
> >> Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Erin Teply <eteply at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am preparing for our IEP roll-up meeting as my son Max will be
> >>> starting
> >>> kindergarten next year. He is my first child to attend public school,
> >>> so
> >>> the process is new to me and I have so many questions around how they
> >>> place
> >>> kids in the classroom, what they consider, etc. I also have questions
> >>> as
> >>> to what 'should be' on his IEP as educational goals aren't necessarily
> >>> going
> >>> to be on as he will have the same goals as everyone else. I've got
> >>> questions on what technology should be introduced, if any, along with
> >>> his
> >>> Perkins Brailler. Because I feel like there is so much I don't know, I
> >>> am
> >>> sending a letter to the school prior to the meeting to make sure all my
> >>> questions are addressed.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has a child close in age or can remember what they did prior
> >>> to
> >>> kindergarten with respect to placement, IEP goals, technology and
> >>> anything
> >>> else, please share with me what you can.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks so much,
> >>> Erin Teply
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> blindkid mailing list
> >>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
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> .com
> >>>
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> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:42:19 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Eleanor Robinson <erobin8725 at aol.com>
> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
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> Aaron talked about self-voicing software for children who are kindergarten
> age. We have a series of self-voiced computer games called PizzaGames that
> just might be what you are looking for. They start with a simple cause and
> effect game called Here Comes the Duck, and continue through letters,
> numbers, spelling, numbers plus and numbers minus games. Each game sold
> separately is $7.00, but they are sold in two packs, Baby Bear, 3 games for
> $15.00 and Mama Bear, 4 games for $20.00. Each of these games self-voices,
> has sounds and pictures using the SAPI voice on your computer.
>
> They can be purchased and downloaded from our website www.7128.com. We
> also have a listing of the top 25 websites for gamers who are blind. We
> did a demo yesterday for a conference at Perkins School and our games were
> well received. If any of you were at that conference, you saw us at the
> top of the stairs near the coffee and doughnuts.
>
> Eleanor Robinson
> 7-128 Software
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 19:25:55 -0700
> From: MARK FELIZ <felizfamily5 at msn.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Geometry for next year
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> Hello Bonnie,
>
> I have been successful in requesting a student aide, a student who knows
> math well and receives elective credit for being a teacher's aide, for my
> students. It is also very important to coordinate with the classroom
> teacher
> to insure that your blind student has all the supplemental handouts along
> side her peers. Most of my teachers that I deal with do tend to alter at
> the
> last minute; however, I try to schedule my students' math classes later in
> the day so I can get a head start on last minute handouts.
>
> Also, make sure your child fully understands one, two, and three
> dimensional
> raised line drawings ahead of time. Make sure the teacher has a good
> variety
> of tactual three-D shapes. If the teacher primarily uses his own curriculum
> handouts for the class do not allow him to resort to using the braille book
> for your blind student. In this case I find that the student is not given
> the same teaching and concepts as the rest of the class.
>
> Let us hear how it goes.
> Mark F
>
>
> Mark Feliz
> President, National Federation of the Blind of Arizona
> East Valley Chapter
> 1038 West Hillview Street
> Mesa, Arizona 85201
> Home Phone: 480-890-8943
> Cell Phone: 480-560-0641
> National Federation of the Blind, Pledge.
>
> I pledge.
> to participate actively in the effort of the National Federation of the
> Blind.
> to achieve equality, opportunity, and security for the blind.
> To support the policies and programs of the Federation.
> and to abide by its constitution.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Aaron Cannon" <cannona at fireantproductions.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:55 PM
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Geometry for next year
>
> > Hi Bonnie.
> >
> > First, where I'm coming from: I have almost completed my bachelors
> > degree in computer science, with a minor in mathematics. I have not
> > used an aid much in college, but I don't know how I would have passed
> > geometry in high school without one. I'm not saying it can't be done,
> > I'm not even prepared to say that I couldn't have done it without an
> > aid, but looking back on it, I think it was a good thing I had one.
> >
> > My aid primarily helped me understand what was being shown on the
> > board. She had a rubber mat and a pin wheel, and she would draw what
> > the instructor was demonstrating. Without her, I likely would have
> > been lost.
> >
> > So, in short, based on my experience, my advice is that you request an
> > aid.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/19/11, Bonnie Lucas <lucas.bonnie at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> We are getting Aubrie's schedule together for next year. She is expected
> >> to
> >> take geometry but I'm just wondering if kids have generally had an aid
> >> for
> >> this one or not. I personally was finally given an aid, which helped, I
> >> think. However, if some of your kids have managed to take it without an
> >> aid,
> >> I'd like to know what kinds of things you did to make it work. She has
> >> had
> >> some aid assistance from time to time in math in the past but since
> >> moving
> >> to AK, she has had no one in the classroom for anything. Any suggestions
> >> will be greatly appreciated. Another child in the district was allowed to
> >> skip geometry and they gave us that option. I let them know that this
> >> wasn't
> >> an option for Aubrie.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Bonnie
> >>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 08:44:45 -0500
> From: "Meng, Debi" <Meng at sccompanies.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
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> I LOVE THAT STATEMENT! "Don't lower your expectations. Don't let the
> school lower them ether."
>
> Thanks for the reminder.
>
> Debi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Penny Duffy
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:39 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
>
> Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a
> sighted
> kindergartener who started first grade blind.
>
> I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different
> and
> thats with the individual part comes into play with an IEP. No one
> knows
> your child like you do.
>
> There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My daughter
> (who is
> in first grade and just learned braille) had both in her IEP.
> Kindergarten
> kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should
> be
> your son's goal. The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille
> for
> reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some of which
> I
> still dont' understand LOL)
>
> My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the
> IEP
> to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for the
> computer
> when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
> I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home
> and
> at school. Every child is different in what they need. Those items that
> the
> child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
> visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
>
> How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for
> every
> single child. My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
>
> Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals. Its an area that gets
> forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district
> has
> with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O & M once a week
> and
> uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O & M is important.
>
> Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra
> help
> he may need. A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
> independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
> important that all the materials are the right format for him. Abby's
> aid
> spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
> brailling papers and books.
>
> Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the
> classroom
> your child is able to do some how. Even fluff work.
>
> Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
> Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look
> and
> see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
> if the school district will pay for them.
>
> Its always better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
> expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
>
> Thats all I have to to share :) there are some wonderful resources for
> IEPs
> I don't know where to direct you. We just did our IEP in November and I
> was
> pretty clueless.
> --
> --Penny
> ----------
> Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Erin Teply <eteply at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > I am preparing for our IEP roll-up meeting as my son Max will be
> starting
> > kindergarten next year. He is my first child to attend public school,
> so
> > the process is new to me and I have so many questions around how they
> place
> > kids in the classroom, what they consider, etc. I also have
> questions as
> > to what 'should be' on his IEP as educational goals aren't necessarily
> going
> > to be on as he will have the same goals as everyone else. I've got
> > questions on what technology should be introduced, if any, along with
> his
> > Perkins Brailler. Because I feel like there is so much I don't know,
> I am
> > sending a letter to the school prior to the meeting to make sure all
> my
> > questions are addressed.
> >
> > If anyone has a child close in age or can remember what they did prior
> to
> > kindergarten with respect to placement, IEP goals, technology and
> anything
> > else, please share with me what you can.
> >
> > Thanks so much,
> > Erin Teply
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 10:35:49 -0400
> From: Erin Teply <eteply at cfl.rr.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
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> And I love this "don't settle for anything less than everything you need."
> - thank you Aaron for that!
>
> And thanks to everyone who responded, everyone's comments are so helpful
> and give me the confidence and support I need to head into this meeting.
>
>
> On May 2, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Meng, Debi wrote:
>
> > I LOVE THAT STATEMENT! "Don't lower your expectations. Don't let the
> > school lower them ether."
> >
> > Thanks for the reminder.
> >
> > Debi
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Penny Duffy
> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:39 AM
> > To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
> > Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >
> > Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a
> > sighted
> > kindergartener who started first grade blind.
> >
> > I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different
> > and
> > thats with the individual part comes into play with an IEP. No one
> > knows
> > your child like you do.
> >
> > There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My daughter
> > (who is
> > in first grade and just learned braille) had both in her IEP.
> > Kindergarten
> > kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should
> > be
> > your son's goal. The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille
> > for
> > reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some of which
> > I
> > still dont' understand LOL)
> >
> > My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the
> > IEP
> > to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for the
> > computer
> > when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
> > I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home
> > and
> > at school. Every child is different in what they need. Those items that
> > the
> > child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
> > visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
> >
> > How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for
> > every
> > single child. My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
> >
> > Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals. Its an area that gets
> > forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district
> > has
> > with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O & M once a week
> > and
> > uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O & M is important.
> >
> > Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra
> > help
> > he may need. A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
> > independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
> > important that all the materials are the right format for him. Abby's
> > aid
> > spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
> > brailling papers and books.
> >
> > Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the
> > classroom
> > your child is able to do some how. Even fluff work.
> >
> > Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
> > Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look
> > and
> > see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
> > if the school district will pay for them.
> >
> > Its always better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
> > expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
> >
> > Thats all I have to to share :) there are some wonderful resources for
> > IEPs
> > I don't know where to direct you. We just did our IEP in November and I
> > was
> > pretty clueless.
> > --
> > --Penny
> > ----------
> > Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Erin Teply <eteply at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I am preparing for our IEP roll-up meeting as my son Max will be
> > starting
> >> kindergarten next year. He is my first child to attend public school,
> > so
> >> the process is new to me and I have so many questions around how they
> > place
> >> kids in the classroom, what they consider, etc. I also have
> > questions as
> >> to what 'should be' on his IEP as educational goals aren't necessarily
> > going
> >> to be on as he will have the same goals as everyone else. I've got
> >> questions on what technology should be introduced, if any, along with
> > his
> >> Perkins Brailler. Because I feel like there is so much I don't know,
> > I am
> >> sending a letter to the school prior to the meeting to make sure all
> > my
> >> questions are addressed.
> >>
> >> If anyone has a child close in age or can remember what they did prior
> > to
> >> kindergarten with respect to placement, IEP goals, technology and
> > anything
> >> else, please share with me what you can.
> >>
> >> Thanks so much,
> >> Erin Teply
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 13:56:50 -0500
> From: "H. Field" <missheather at comcast.net>
> To: slemmonrn at spotlight-music.com, "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,
> \(for parents of blind children\)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> Message-ID: <4DBEFE72.8070008 at comcast.net>
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>
> Hi Stacy,
> Would you please tell us more about why you've requested an aide for
> safety? I attend lots of IEP meetings for blind/vI children as a parent
> advocate and they don't usually raise the topic of safety. So, I'm very
> interested to hear about your situation. Did the school require this or
> are their circumstances which lead you to believe it's necessary. Just
> interested.
>
> Warmest regards,
>
> Heather Field
>
> On 5/2/2011 12:56 PM, slemmonrn at spotlight-music.com wrote:
> > My daughter is now completing first grade, this is her first year in public
> > school. For kindergarten we kept her at a small Catholic school. We found
> > she needed additional support that was unable to be provided for by the
> > private school. Things I have included on her IEP are a PCA (aide) for
> > safety, assembly of materials, enlargements, etc.. She is partially
> > sighted. We have an adobe Acrobat, task lighting and slant board. She is
> > learning keyboarding skills. She is also learning Braille and has a
> > Perkins's Brailler. We also have her as 'line leader' so she can go first
> > with transitions and not take everyone out with her cane. This part she
> > loves! Preferential seating, away from windows. Anything you think you want
> > or would benefit your child, get it in writing. Make sure they have
> > already ordered enlarged print or Braille texts for next year, one set for
> > home and one for school. Flashcards the kids use for 'sight' words,
> > prepared in advance in large text or Braille. I couldn't believe the volume
> > of homework in 1st grade.
> >
> > Best wishes on a smooth transition!
> >
> > Stacy
> >
> > Original Message:
> > -----------------
> > From: blindkid-request at nfbnet.org
> > Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 12:00:16 -0500
> > To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: blindkid Digest, Vol 85, Issue 2
> >
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Jaquiss, Robert)
> > 2. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Thea Eaton)
> > 3. Transition to Kindergarten (Eleanor Robinson)
> > 4. Re: Geometry for next year (MARK FELIZ)
> > 5. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Meng, Debi)
> > 6. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Erin Teply)
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 12:05:30 -0700
> > From: "Jaquiss, Robert"<RJaquiss at nfb.org>
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> > <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > Message-ID:
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> > Hello:
> >
> > It is my opinion that if sighted children are using computers at an
> > early age, then blind children should have the same opportunities.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Jaquiss
> > National Federation of the Blind
> > 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
> > Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> > Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:34 PM
> > To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> > Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >
> > How about the free NVDA? It has most of the same functions and keystrokes
> > as
> > Jaws does. And also at what age is it right to start kids on computers?
> > because talking to some who are now in their late teens they say they
> > started at around age six. is this too early?
> > GErardo
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Holloway"<rholloway at gopbc.org>
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> > <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >
> >
> > I haven't been following this thread but as far as a screen reader, while
> > JAWS may be more expensive than what is needed, often-- especially for
> > small
> > kids, it can be used for free in "demo mode". I always forget how long it
> > will go-- seems like 40 or 50 minutes, but it is generally long enough for
> > the length of lessons kids usually have at a young age.
> >
> > There certainly is some software that is self-voicing, but it is good to
> > have a screen reader available as well if possible. I like the idea of
> > getting the kids familiar with JAWS from an early age as they are likely to
> > be using it for a very long time. The retail package costs $900 or $1000,
> > but the free demo is the exact same software, only with a time expiration.
> > To reset the clock you have to reboot the machine.
> >
> > This is also great to know about if they tell you they have "no funds for a
> > screen reader". It can be downloaded for free or Freedom Scientific also
> > distributes demo CD's with this on it.
> >
> > Incidentally, if you want to buy it after the demo is already loaded, you
> > don't even install the software again, you just enter an activation "key".
> > At least how it has worked for many years. I have not run the "demo"
> > version
> > in a year or more.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 30, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Aaron Cannon wrote:
> >
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> Some other thoughts from my own daughters Kindergarten experience (she
> >> is sighted, I am blind):
> >>
> >> My daughter's class had the opportunity to use computers for short
> >> periods throughout the year, and were she blind, I would likely ask
> >> that she also be allowed to use a computer with some adaptive tech. I
> >> realize that it might be a little for a full-blown screen reader, but
> >> there are, I believe, some self-voicing software titles aimed at that
> >> age group.
> >>
> >> I would also make sure the IEP included cane travel instruction. A
> >> lot of cane travel instruction.
> >>
> >> That's all that occurs to me that hasn't already been mentioned.
> >>
> >> Good luck, and don't settle for anything less than everything you need.
> >>
> >> Aaron
> >>
> >> On 4/29/11, Penny Duffy<pennyduffy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a
> >>> sighted
> >>> kindergartener who started first grade blind.
> >>>
> >>> I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different
> >>> and
> >>> thats with the individual part comes into play with an IEP. No one knows
> >>> your child like you do.
> >>>
> >>> There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My daughter
> > (who
> >>> is
> >>> in first grade and just learned braille) had both in her IEP.
> >>> Kindergarten
> >>> kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should
> >>> be
> >>> your son's goal. The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille
> >>> for
> >>> reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some of which I
> >>> still dont' understand LOL)
> >>>
> >>> My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the
> >>> IEP
> >>> to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for the computer
> >>> when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
> >>> I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home
> >>> and
> >>> at school. Every child is different in what they need. Those items that
> >>> the
> >>> child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
> >>> visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
> >>>
> >>> How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for
> >>> every
> >>> single child. My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
> >>>
> >>> Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals. Its an area that gets
> >>> forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district
> >>> has
> >>> with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O& M once a week
> >>> and
> >>> uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O& M is important.
> >>>
> >>> Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra
> >>> help
> >>> he may need. A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
> >>> independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
> >>> important that all the materials are the right format for him. Abby's
> >>> aid
> >>> spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
> >>> brailling papers and books.
> >>>
> >>> Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the
> >>> classroom
> >>> your child is able to do some how. Even fluff work.
> >>>
> >>> Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
> >>> Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look
> >>> and
> >>> see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
> >>> if the school district will pay for them.
> >>>
> >>> Its always better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
> >>> expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
> >>>
> >>> Thats all I have to to share :) there are some wonderful resources for
> >>> IEPs
> >>> I don't know where to direct you. We just did our IEP in November and I
> >>> was
> >>> pretty clueless.
> >>> --
> >>> --Penny
> >>> ----------
> >>> Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Erin Teply<eteply at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I am preparing for our IEP roll-up meeting as my son Max will be
> >>>> starting
> >>>> kindergarten next year. He is my first child to attend public school,
> >>>> so
> >>>> the process is new to me and I have so many questions around how they
> >>>> place
> >>>> kids in the classroom, what they consider, etc. I also have questions
> >>>> as
> >>>> to what 'should be' on his IEP as educational goals aren't necessarily
> >>>> going
> >>>> to be on as he will have the same goals as everyone else. I've got
> >>>> questions on what technology should be introduced, if any, along with
> >>>> his
> >>>> Perkins Brailler. Because I feel like there is so much I don't know, I
> >>>> am
> >>>> sending a letter to the school prior to the meeting to make sure all my
> >>>> questions are addressed.
> >>>>
> >>>> If anyone has a child close in age or can remember what they did prior
> >>>> to
> >>>> kindergarten with respect to placement, IEP goals, technology and
> >>>> anything
> >>>> else, please share with me what you can.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks so much,
> >>>> Erin Teply
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 15:05:18 -0500
> > From: "Thea Eaton"<thea at doodledoo.com>
> > To: "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind
> > children\)'"<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > Message-ID:<000601cc083b$1847c0b0$48d74210$@com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > The only keys necessary to successfully navigate Flash content on the web
> > with a screen reader, are the up and down arrow keys and the Enter or Space
> > bar. I have heard of children as young as 3 being able to use a screen
> > readerlike this online. It is never too early to get your child started with
> > adaptive tech. Hopefully, in the future there will be more sites that are
> > screen reader accessible available to access and also practice their screen
> > reader skills on.
> >
> > Thea Eaton
> > DoodleDoo
> > www.doodledoo.com
> > Where early birds learn.
> > 1-888-42 DOODLE
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Jaquiss, Robert
> > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:06 PM
> > To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> > Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > It is my opinion that if sighted children are using computers at an
> > early age, then blind children should have the same opportunities.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Jaquiss
> > National Federation of the Blind
> > 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
> > Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> > Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:34 PM
> > To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> > Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >
> > How about the free NVDA? It has most of the same functions and keystrokes as
> >
> > Jaws does. And also at what age is it right to start kids on computers?
> > because talking to some who are now in their late teens they say they
> > started at around age six. is this too early?
> > GErardo
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Holloway"<rholloway at gopbc.org>
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> > <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >
> >
> > I haven't been following this thread but as far as a screen reader, while
> > JAWS may be more expensive than what is needed, often-- especially for small
> >
> > kids, it can be used for free in "demo mode". I always forget how long it
> > will go-- seems like 40 or 50 minutes, but it is generally long enough for
> > the length of lessons kids usually have at a young age.
> >
> > There certainly is some software that is self-voicing, but it is good to
> > have a screen reader available as well if possible. I like the idea of
> > getting the kids familiar with JAWS from an early age as they are likely to
> > be using it for a very long time. The retail package costs $900 or $1000,
> > but the free demo is the exact same software, only with a time expiration.
> > To reset the clock you have to reboot the machine.
> >
> > This is also great to know about if they tell you they have "no funds for a
> > screen reader". It can be downloaded for free or Freedom Scientific also
> > distributes demo CD's with this on it.
> >
> > Incidentally, if you want to buy it after the demo is already loaded, you
> > don't even install the software again, you just enter an activation "key".
> > At least how it has worked for many years. I have not run the "demo" version
> >
> > in a year or more.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 30, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Aaron Cannon wrote:
> >
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> Some other thoughts from my own daughters Kindergarten experience (she
> >> is sighted, I am blind):
> >>
> >> My daughter's class had the opportunity to use computers for short
> >> periods throughout the year, and were she blind, I would likely ask
> >> that she also be allowed to use a computer with some adaptive tech. I
> >> realize that it might be a little for a full-blown screen reader, but
> >> there are, I believe, some self-voicing software titles aimed at that
> >> age group.
> >>
> >> I would also make sure the IEP included cane travel instruction. A
> >> lot of cane travel instruction.
> >>
> >> That's all that occurs to me that hasn't already been mentioned.
> >>
> >> Good luck, and don't settle for anything less than everything you need.
> >>
> >> Aaron
> >>
> >> On 4/29/11, Penny Duffy<pennyduffy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a
> >>> sighted
> >>> kindergartener who started first grade blind.
> >>>
> >>> I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different
> >>> and
> >>> thats with the individual part comes into play with an IEP. No one knows
> >>> your child like you do.
> >>>
> >>> There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My daughter (who
> >>> is
> >>> in first grade and just learned braille) had both in her IEP.
> >>> Kindergarten
> >>> kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should
> >>> be
> >>> your son's goal. The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille
> >>> for
> >>> reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some of which I
> >>> still dont' understand LOL)
> >>>
> >>> My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the
> >>> IEP
> >>> to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for the computer
> >>> when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
> >>> I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home
> >>> and
> >>> at school. Every child is different in what they need. Those items that
> >>> the
> >>> child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
> >>> visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
> >>>
> >>> How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for
> >>> every
> >>> single child. My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
> >>>
> >>> Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals. Its an area that gets
> >>> forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district
> >>> has
> >>> with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O& M once a week
> >>> and
> >>> uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O& M is important.
> >>>
> >>> Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra
> >>> help
> >>> he may need. A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
> >>> independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
> >>> important that all the materials are the right format for him. Abby's
> >>> aid
> >>> spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
> >>> brailling papers and books.
> >>>
> >>> Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the
> >>> classroom
> >>> your child is able to do some how. Even fluff work.
> >>>
> >>> Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
> >>> Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look
> >>> and
> >>> see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
> >>> if the school district will pay for them.
> >>>
> >>> Its always better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
> >>> expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
> >>>
> >>> Thats all I have to to share :) there are some wonderful resources for
> >>> IEPs
> >>> I don't know where to direct you. We just did our IEP in November and I
> >>> was
> >>> pretty clueless.
> >>> --
> >>> --Penny
> >>> ----------
> >>> Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Erin Teply<eteply at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I am preparing for our IEP roll-up meeting as my son Max will be
> >>>> starting
> >>>> kindergarten next year. He is my first child to attend public school,
> >>>> so
> >>>> the process is new to me and I have so many questions around how they
> >>>> place
> >>>> kids in the classroom, what they consider, etc. I also have questions
> >>>> as
> >>>> to what 'should be' on his IEP as educational goals aren't necessarily
> >>>> going
> >>>> to be on as he will have the same goals as everyone else. I've got
> >>>> questions on what technology should be introduced, if any, along with
> >>>> his
> >>>> Perkins Brailler. Because I feel like there is so much I don't know, I
> >>>> am
> >>>> sending a letter to the school prior to the meeting to make sure all my
> >>>> questions are addressed.
> >>>>
> >>>> If anyone has a child close in age or can remember what they did prior
> >>>> to
> >>>> kindergarten with respect to placement, IEP goals, technology and
> >>>> anything
> >>>> else, please share with me what you can.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks so much,
> >>>> Erin Teply
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:42:19 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Eleanor Robinson<erobin8725 at aol.com>
> > To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > Message-ID:<8CDD65FC80B8C9B-1030-28A3E at webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >
> > Aaron talked about self-voicing software for children who are kindergarten
> > age. We have a series of self-voiced computer games called PizzaGames that
> > just might be what you are looking for. They start with a simple cause and
> > effect game called Here Comes the Duck, and continue through letters,
> > numbers, spelling, numbers plus and numbers minus games. Each game sold
> > separately is $7.00, but they are sold in two packs, Baby Bear, 3 games for
> > $15.00 and Mama Bear, 4 games for $20.00. Each of these games self-voices,
> > has sounds and pictures using the SAPI voice on your computer.
> >
> > They can be purchased and downloaded from our website www.7128.com. We
> > also have a listing of the top 25 websites for gamers who are blind. We
> > did a demo yesterday for a conference at Perkins School and our games were
> > well received. If any of you were at that conference, you saw us at the
> > top of the stairs near the coffee and doughnuts.
> >
> > Eleanor Robinson
> > 7-128 Software
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 19:25:55 -0700
> > From: MARK FELIZ<felizfamily5 at msn.com>
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> > <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [blindkid] Geometry for next year
> > Message-ID:<BAY152-ds856BF9CF9E75CFA9B9F219A9F0 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> > Hello Bonnie,
> >
> > I have been successful in requesting a student aide, a student who knows
> > math well and receives elective credit for being a teacher's aide, for my
> > students. It is also very important to coordinate with the classroom
> > teacher
> > to insure that your blind student has all the supplemental handouts along
> > side her peers. Most of my teachers that I deal with do tend to alter at
> > the
> > last minute; however, I try to schedule my students' math classes later in
> > the day so I can get a head start on last minute handouts.
> >
> > Also, make sure your child fully understands one, two, and three
> > dimensional
> > raised line drawings ahead of time. Make sure the teacher has a good
> > variety
> > of tactual three-D shapes. If the teacher primarily uses his own curriculum
> > handouts for the class do not allow him to resort to using the braille book
> > for your blind student. In this case I find that the student is not given
> > the same teaching and concepts as the rest of the class.
> >
> > Let us hear how it goes.
> > Mark F
> >
> >
> > Mark Feliz
> > President, National Federation of the Blind of Arizona
> > East Valley Chapter
> > 1038 West Hillview Street
> > Mesa, Arizona 85201
> > Home Phone: 480-890-8943
> > Cell Phone: 480-560-0641
> > National Federation of the Blind, Pledge.
> >
> > I pledge.
> > to participate actively in the effort of the National Federation of the
> > Blind.
> > to achieve equality, opportunity, and security for the blind.
> > To support the policies and programs of the Federation.
> > and to abide by its constitution.
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Aaron Cannon"<cannona at fireantproductions.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:55 PM
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> > <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [blindkid] Geometry for next year
> >
> >> Hi Bonnie.
> >>
> >> First, where I'm coming from: I have almost completed my bachelors
> >> degree in computer science, with a minor in mathematics. I have not
> >> used an aid much in college, but I don't know how I would have passed
> >> geometry in high school without one. I'm not saying it can't be done,
> >> I'm not even prepared to say that I couldn't have done it without an
> >> aid, but looking back on it, I think it was a good thing I had one.
> >>
> >> My aid primarily helped me understand what was being shown on the
> >> board. She had a rubber mat and a pin wheel, and she would draw what
> >> the instructor was demonstrating. Without her, I likely would have
> >> been lost.
> >>
> >> So, in short, based on my experience, my advice is that you request an
> >> aid.
> >>
> >> Aaron
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/19/11, Bonnie Lucas<lucas.bonnie at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hello everyone,
> >>>
> >>> We are getting Aubrie's schedule together for next year. She is expected
> >>> to
> >>> take geometry but I'm just wondering if kids have generally had an aid
> >>> for
> >>> this one or not. I personally was finally given an aid, which helped, I
> >>> think. However, if some of your kids have managed to take it without an
> >>> aid,
> >>> I'd like to know what kinds of things you did to make it work. She has
> >>> had
> >>> some aid assistance from time to time in math in the past but since
> >>> moving
> >>> to AK, she has had no one in the classroom for anything. Any suggestions
> >>> will be greatly appreciated. Another child in the district was allowed to
> >>> skip geometry and they gave us that option. I let them know that this
> >>> wasn't
> >>> an option for Aubrie.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Bonnie
> >>>
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 08:44:45 -0500
> > From: "Meng, Debi"<Meng at sccompanies.com>
> > To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> > <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > Message-ID:
> > <0EA82EE4F8C9694F8CE943EA7A49886006AEC5B0 at JACO.sccompanies.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > I LOVE THAT STATEMENT! "Don't lower your expectations. Don't let the
> > school lower them ether."
> >
> > Thanks for the reminder.
> >
> > Debi
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Penny Duffy
> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:39 AM
> > To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
> > Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >
> > Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a
> > sighted
> > kindergartener who started first grade blind.
> >
> > I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different
> > and
> > thats with the individual part comes into play with an IEP. No one
> > knows
> > your child like you do.
> >
> > There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My daughter
> > (who is
> > in first grade and just learned braille) had both in her IEP.
> > Kindergarten
> > kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should
> > be
> > your son's goal. The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille
> > for
> > reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some of which
> > I
> > still dont' understand LOL)
> >
> > My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the
> > IEP
> > to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for the
> > computer
> > when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
> > I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home
> > and
> > at school. Every child is different in what they need. Those items that
> > the
> > child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
> > visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
> >
> > How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for
> > every
> > single child. My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
> >
> > Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals. Its an area that gets
> > forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district
> > has
> > with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O& M once a week
> > and
> > uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O& M is important.
> >
> > Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra
> > help
> > he may need. A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
> > independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
> > important that all the materials are the right format for him. Abby's
> > aid
> > spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
> > brailling papers and books.
> >
> > Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the
> > classroom
> > your child is able to do some how. Even fluff work.
> >
> > Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
> > Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look
> > and
> > see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
> > if the school district will pay for them.
> >
> > Its always better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
> > expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
> >
> > Thats all I have to to share :) there are some wonderful resources for
> > IEPs
> > I don't know where to direct you. We just did our IEP in November and I
> > was
> > pretty clueless.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:13:56 -0400
> From: Erin Teply <eteply at cfl.rr.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> Message-ID: <914545AD-059D-4BB9-BA00-7962C2A3AAFA at cfl.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> This brought up one more question I have. As I've said before, my son Max is in a pre-K class at our regular elementary school. The other day, his teacher said that Max got 'lost'...meaning that on the way to the lunchroom, Max was not with them when they arrived and was still back in the hall way on the way. I guess another teacher found him and brought him to his teacher. As you can imagine, this is something we don't want to hear, and the only thing I could say is that we need to come up with a safety plan if this ever happens again. Max knows the school and his normal paths somewhat, but it is a large school and a lot of territory to learn. Has anyone had a similar experience and what did you do to make sure your child *always* has a safe place to go to? I am bringing this up to his O&M and then will bring it up again at our meeting but should I have something written in his IEP? It is such a terrible feeling to know your child could be 'lost' and not know where to go.
>
>
>
>
> On May 2, 2011, at 2:56 PM, H. Field wrote:
>
> > Hi Stacy,
> > Would you please tell us more about why you've requested an aide for safety? I attend lots of IEP meetings for blind/vI children as a parent advocate and they don't usually raise the topic of safety. So, I'm very interested to hear about your situation. Did the school require this or are their circumstances which lead you to believe it's necessary. Just interested.
> >
> > Warmest regards,
> >
> > Heather Field
> >
> > On 5/2/2011 12:56 PM, slemmonrn at spotlight-music.com wrote:
> >> My daughter is now completing first grade, this is her first year in public
> >> school. For kindergarten we kept her at a small Catholic school. We found
> >> she needed additional support that was unable to be provided for by the
> >> private school. Things I have included on her IEP are a PCA (aide) for
> >> safety, assembly of materials, enlargements, etc.. She is partially
> >> sighted. We have an adobe Acrobat, task lighting and slant board. She is
> >> learning keyboarding skills. She is also learning Braille and has a
> >> Perkins's Brailler. We also have her as 'line leader' so she can go first
> >> with transitions and not take everyone out with her cane. This part she
> >> loves! Preferential seating, away from windows. Anything you think you want
> >> or would benefit your child, get it in writing. Make sure they have
> >> already ordered enlarged print or Braille texts for next year, one set for
> >> home and one for school. Flashcards the kids use for 'sight' words,
> >> prepared in advance in large text or Braille. I couldn't believe the volume
> >> of homework in 1st grade.
> >>
> >> Best wishes on a smooth transition!
> >>
> >> Stacy
> >>
> >> Original Message:
> >> -----------------
> >> From: blindkid-request at nfbnet.org
> >> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 12:00:16 -0500
> >> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> >> Subject: blindkid Digest, Vol 85, Issue 2
> >>
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> >> 1. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Jaquiss, Robert)
> >> 2. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Thea Eaton)
> >> 3. Transition to Kindergarten (Eleanor Robinson)
> >> 4. Re: Geometry for next year (MARK FELIZ)
> >> 5. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Meng, Debi)
> >> 6. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Erin Teply)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 12:05:30 -0700
> >> From: "Jaquiss, Robert"<RJaquiss at nfb.org>
> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> >> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >> Message-ID:
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> >>
> >> Hello:
> >>
> >> It is my opinion that if sighted children are using computers at an
> >> early age, then blind children should have the same opportunities.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Robert Jaquiss
> >> National Federation of the Blind
> >> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
> >> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> >> Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:34 PM
> >> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >>
> >> How about the free NVDA? It has most of the same functions and keystrokes
> >> as
> >> Jaws does. And also at what age is it right to start kids on computers?
> >> because talking to some who are now in their late teens they say they
> >> started at around age six. is this too early?
> >> GErardo
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Richard Holloway"<rholloway at gopbc.org>
> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> >> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:16 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >>
> >>
> >> I haven't been following this thread but as far as a screen reader, while
> >> JAWS may be more expensive than what is needed, often-- especially for
> >> small
> >> kids, it can be used for free in "demo mode". I always forget how long it
> >> will go-- seems like 40 or 50 minutes, but it is generally long enough for
> >> the length of lessons kids usually have at a young age.
> >>
> >> There certainly is some software that is self-voicing, but it is good to
> >> have a screen reader available as well if possible. I like the idea of
> >> getting the kids familiar with JAWS from an early age as they are likely to
> >> be using it for a very long time. The retail package costs $900 or $1000,
> >> but the free demo is the exact same software, only with a time expiration.
> >> To reset the clock you have to reboot the machine.
> >>
> >> This is also great to know about if they tell you they have "no funds for a
> >> screen reader". It can be downloaded for free or Freedom Scientific also
> >> distributes demo CD's with this on it.
> >>
> >> Incidentally, if you want to buy it after the demo is already loaded, you
> >> don't even install the software again, you just enter an activation "key".
> >> At least how it has worked for many years. I have not run the "demo"
> >> version
> >> in a year or more.
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 30, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Aaron Cannon wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi.
> >>>
> >>> Some other thoughts from my own daughters Kindergarten experience (she
> >>> is sighted, I am blind):
> >>>
> >>> My daughter's class had the opportunity to use computers for short
> >>> periods throughout the year, and were she blind, I would likely ask
> >>> that she also be allowed to use a computer with some adaptive tech. I
> >>> realize that it might be a little for a full-blown screen reader, but
> >>> there are, I believe, some self-voicing software titles aimed at that
> >>> age group.
> >>>
> >>> I would also make sure the IEP included cane travel instruction. A
> >>> lot of cane travel instruction.
> >>>
> >>> That's all that occurs to me that hasn't already been mentioned.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck, and don't settle for anything less than everything you need.
> >>>
> >>> Aaron
> >>>
> >>> On 4/29/11, Penny Duffy<pennyduffy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a
> >>>> sighted
> >>>> kindergartener who started first grade blind.
> >>>>
> >>>> I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different
> >>>> and
> >>>> thats with the individual part comes into play with an IEP. No one knows
> >>>> your child like you do.
> >>>>
> >>>> There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My daughter
> >> (who
> >>>> is
> >>>> in first grade and just learned braille) had both in her IEP.
> >>>> Kindergarten
> >>>> kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should
> >>>> be
> >>>> your son's goal. The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille
> >>>> for
> >>>> reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some of which I
> >>>> still dont' understand LOL)
> >>>>
> >>>> My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the
> >>>> IEP
> >>>> to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for the computer
> >>>> when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
> >>>> I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home
> >>>> and
> >>>> at school. Every child is different in what they need. Those items that
> >>>> the
> >>>> child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
> >>>> visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
> >>>>
> >>>> How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for
> >>>> every
> >>>> single child. My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals. Its an area that gets
> >>>> forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district
> >>>> has
> >>>> with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O& M once a week
> >>>> and
> >>>> uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O& M is important.
> >>>>
> >>>> Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra
> >>>> help
> >>>> he may need. A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
> >>>> independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
> >>>> important that all the materials are the right format for him. Abby's
> >>>> aid
> >>>> spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
> >>>> brailling papers and books.
> >>>>
> >>>> Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the
> >>>> classroom
> >>>> your child is able to do some how. Even fluff work.
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
> >>>> Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look
> >>>> and
> >>>> see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
> >>>> if the school district will pay for them.
> >>>>
> >>>> Its always better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
> >>>> expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thats all I have to to share :) there are some wonderful resources for
> >>>> IEPs
> >>>> I don't know where to direct you. We just did our IEP in November and I
> >>>> was
> >>>> pretty clueless.
> >>>> --
> >>>> --Penny
> >>>> ----------
> >>>> Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Erin Teply<eteply at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I am preparing for our IEP roll-up meeting as my son Max will be
> >>>>> starting
> >>>>> kindergarten next year. He is my first child to attend public school,
> >>>>> so
> >>>>> the process is new to me and I have so many questions around how they
> >>>>> place
> >>>>> kids in the classroom, what they consider, etc. I also have questions
> >>>>> as
> >>>>> to what 'should be' on his IEP as educational goals aren't necessarily
> >>>>> going
> >>>>> to be on as he will have the same goals as everyone else. I've got
> >>>>> questions on what technology should be introduced, if any, along with
> >>>>> his
> >>>>> Perkins Brailler. Because I feel like there is so much I don't know, I
> >>>>> am
> >>>>> sending a letter to the school prior to the meeting to make sure all my
> >>>>> questions are addressed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If anyone has a child close in age or can remember what they did prior
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> kindergarten with respect to placement, IEP goals, technology and
> >>>>> anything
> >>>>> else, please share with me what you can.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks so much,
> >>>>> Erin Teply
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> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 15:05:18 -0500
> >> From: "Thea Eaton"<thea at doodledoo.com>
> >> To: "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind
> >> children\)'"<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >> Message-ID:<000601cc083b$1847c0b0$48d74210$@com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> The only keys necessary to successfully navigate Flash content on the web
> >> with a screen reader, are the up and down arrow keys and the Enter or Space
> >> bar. I have heard of children as young as 3 being able to use a screen
> >> readerlike this online. It is never too early to get your child started with
> >> adaptive tech. Hopefully, in the future there will be more sites that are
> >> screen reader accessible available to access and also practice their screen
> >> reader skills on.
> >>
> >> Thea Eaton
> >> DoodleDoo
> >> www.doodledoo.com
> >> Where early birds learn.
> >> 1-888-42 DOODLE
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Jaquiss, Robert
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:06 PM
> >> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >>
> >> Hello:
> >>
> >> It is my opinion that if sighted children are using computers at an
> >> early age, then blind children should have the same opportunities.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Robert Jaquiss
> >> National Federation of the Blind
> >> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
> >> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> >> Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:34 PM
> >> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >>
> >> How about the free NVDA? It has most of the same functions and keystrokes as
> >>
> >> Jaws does. And also at what age is it right to start kids on computers?
> >> because talking to some who are now in their late teens they say they
> >> started at around age six. is this too early?
> >> GErardo
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Richard Holloway"<rholloway at gopbc.org>
> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> >> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:16 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >>
> >>
> >> I haven't been following this thread but as far as a screen reader, while
> >> JAWS may be more expensive than what is needed, often-- especially for small
> >>
> >> kids, it can be used for free in "demo mode". I always forget how long it
> >> will go-- seems like 40 or 50 minutes, but it is generally long enough for
> >> the length of lessons kids usually have at a young age.
> >>
> >> There certainly is some software that is self-voicing, but it is good to
> >> have a screen reader available as well if possible. I like the idea of
> >> getting the kids familiar with JAWS from an early age as they are likely to
> >> be using it for a very long time. The retail package costs $900 or $1000,
> >> but the free demo is the exact same software, only with a time expiration.
> >> To reset the clock you have to reboot the machine.
> >>
> >> This is also great to know about if they tell you they have "no funds for a
> >> screen reader". It can be downloaded for free or Freedom Scientific also
> >> distributes demo CD's with this on it.
> >>
> >> Incidentally, if you want to buy it after the demo is already loaded, you
> >> don't even install the software again, you just enter an activation "key".
> >> At least how it has worked for many years. I have not run the "demo" version
> >>
> >> in a year or more.
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 30, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Aaron Cannon wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi.
> >>>
> >>> Some other thoughts from my own daughters Kindergarten experience (she
> >>> is sighted, I am blind):
> >>>
> >>> My daughter's class had the opportunity to use computers for short
> >>> periods throughout the year, and were she blind, I would likely ask
> >>> that she also be allowed to use a computer with some adaptive tech. I
> >>> realize that it might be a little for a full-blown screen reader, but
> >>> there are, I believe, some self-voicing software titles aimed at that
> >>> age group.
> >>>
> >>> I would also make sure the IEP included cane travel instruction. A
> >>> lot of cane travel instruction.
> >>>
> >>> That's all that occurs to me that hasn't already been mentioned.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck, and don't settle for anything less than everything you need.
> >>>
> >>> Aaron
> >>>
> >>> On 4/29/11, Penny Duffy<pennyduffy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a
> >>>> sighted
> >>>> kindergartener who started first grade blind.
> >>>>
> >>>> I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different
> >>>> and
> >>>> thats with the individual part comes into play with an IEP. No one knows
> >>>> your child like you do.
> >>>>
> >>>> There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My daughter (who
> >>>> is
> >>>> in first grade and just learned braille) had both in her IEP.
> >>>> Kindergarten
> >>>> kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should
> >>>> be
> >>>> your son's goal. The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille
> >>>> for
> >>>> reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some of which I
> >>>> still dont' understand LOL)
> >>>>
> >>>> My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the
> >>>> IEP
> >>>> to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for the computer
> >>>> when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
> >>>> I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home
> >>>> and
> >>>> at school. Every child is different in what they need. Those items that
> >>>> the
> >>>> child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
> >>>> visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
> >>>>
> >>>> How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for
> >>>> every
> >>>> single child. My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals. Its an area that gets
> >>>> forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district
> >>>> has
> >>>> with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O& M once a week
> >>>> and
> >>>> uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O& M is important.
> >>>>
> >>>> Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra
> >>>> help
> >>>> he may need. A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
> >>>> independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
> >>>> important that all the materials are the right format for him. Abby's
> >>>> aid
> >>>> spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
> >>>> brailling papers and books.
> >>>>
> >>>> Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the
> >>>> classroom
> >>>> your child is able to do some how. Even fluff work.
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
> >>>> Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look
> >>>> and
> >>>> see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
> >>>> if the school district will pay for them.
> >>>>
> >>>> Its always better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
> >>>> expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thats all I have to to share :) there are some wonderful resources for
> >>>> IEPs
> >>>> I don't know where to direct you. We just did our IEP in November and I
> >>>> was
> >>>> pretty clueless.
> >>>> --
> >>>> --Penny
> >>>> ----------
> >>>> Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Erin Teply<eteply at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I am preparing for our IEP roll-up meeting as my son Max will be
> >>>>> starting
> >>>>> kindergarten next year. He is my first child to attend public school,
> >>>>> so
> >>>>> the process is new to me and I have so many questions around how they
> >>>>> place
> >>>>> kids in the classroom, what they consider, etc. I also have questions
> >>>>> as
> >>>>> to what 'should be' on his IEP as educational goals aren't necessarily
> >>>>> going
> >>>>> to be on as he will have the same goals as everyone else. I've got
> >>>>> questions on what technology should be introduced, if any, along with
> >>>>> his
> >>>>> Perkins Brailler. Because I feel like there is so much I don't know, I
> >>>>> am
> >>>>> sending a letter to the school prior to the meeting to make sure all my
> >>>>> questions are addressed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If anyone has a child close in age or can remember what they did prior
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> kindergarten with respect to placement, IEP goals, technology and
> >>>>> anything
> >>>>> else, please share with me what you can.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks so much,
> >>>>> Erin Teply
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> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:42:19 -0400 (EDT)
> >> From: Eleanor Robinson<erobin8725 at aol.com>
> >> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> >> Subject: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >> Message-ID:<8CDD65FC80B8C9B-1030-28A3E at webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >>
> >> Aaron talked about self-voicing software for children who are kindergarten
> >> age. We have a series of self-voiced computer games called PizzaGames that
> >> just might be what you are looking for. They start with a simple cause and
> >> effect game called Here Comes the Duck, and continue through letters,
> >> numbers, spelling, numbers plus and numbers minus games. Each game sold
> >> separately is $7.00, but they are sold in two packs, Baby Bear, 3 games for
> >> $15.00 and Mama Bear, 4 games for $20.00. Each of these games self-voices,
> >> has sounds and pictures using the SAPI voice on your computer.
> >>
> >> They can be purchased and downloaded from our website www.7128.com. We
> >> also have a listing of the top 25 websites for gamers who are blind. We
> >> did a demo yesterday for a conference at Perkins School and our games were
> >> well received. If any of you were at that conference, you saw us at the
> >> top of the stairs near the coffee and doughnuts.
> >>
> >> Eleanor Robinson
> >> 7-128 Software
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 19:25:55 -0700
> >> From: MARK FELIZ<felizfamily5 at msn.com>
> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> >> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Geometry for next year
> >> Message-ID:<BAY152-ds856BF9CF9E75CFA9B9F219A9F0 at phx.gbl>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> >> reply-type=original
> >>
> >> Hello Bonnie,
> >>
> >> I have been successful in requesting a student aide, a student who knows
> >> math well and receives elective credit for being a teacher's aide, for my
> >> students. It is also very important to coordinate with the classroom
> >> teacher
> >> to insure that your blind student has all the supplemental handouts along
> >> side her peers. Most of my teachers that I deal with do tend to alter at
> >> the
> >> last minute; however, I try to schedule my students' math classes later in
> >> the day so I can get a head start on last minute handouts.
> >>
> >> Also, make sure your child fully understands one, two, and three
> >> dimensional
> >> raised line drawings ahead of time. Make sure the teacher has a good
> >> variety
> >> of tactual three-D shapes. If the teacher primarily uses his own curriculum
> >> handouts for the class do not allow him to resort to using the braille book
> >> for your blind student. In this case I find that the student is not given
> >> the same teaching and concepts as the rest of the class.
> >>
> >> Let us hear how it goes.
> >> Mark F
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark Feliz
> >> President, National Federation of the Blind of Arizona
> >> East Valley Chapter
> >> 1038 West Hillview Street
> >> Mesa, Arizona 85201
> >> Home Phone: 480-890-8943
> >> Cell Phone: 480-560-0641
> >> National Federation of the Blind, Pledge.
> >>
> >> I pledge.
> >> to participate actively in the effort of the National Federation of the
> >> Blind.
> >> to achieve equality, opportunity, and security for the blind.
> >> To support the policies and programs of the Federation.
> >> and to abide by its constitution.
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> From: "Aaron Cannon"<cannona at fireantproductions.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:55 PM
> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> >> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Geometry for next year
> >>
> >>> Hi Bonnie.
> >>>
> >>> First, where I'm coming from: I have almost completed my bachelors
> >>> degree in computer science, with a minor in mathematics. I have not
> >>> used an aid much in college, but I don't know how I would have passed
> >>> geometry in high school without one. I'm not saying it can't be done,
> >>> I'm not even prepared to say that I couldn't have done it without an
> >>> aid, but looking back on it, I think it was a good thing I had one.
> >>>
> >>> My aid primarily helped me understand what was being shown on the
> >>> board. She had a rubber mat and a pin wheel, and she would draw what
> >>> the instructor was demonstrating. Without her, I likely would have
> >>> been lost.
> >>>
> >>> So, in short, based on my experience, my advice is that you request an
> >>> aid.
> >>>
> >>> Aaron
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 4/19/11, Bonnie Lucas<lucas.bonnie at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> We are getting Aubrie's schedule together for next year. She is expected
> >>>> to
> >>>> take geometry but I'm just wondering if kids have generally had an aid
> >>>> for
> >>>> this one or not. I personally was finally given an aid, which helped, I
> >>>> think. However, if some of your kids have managed to take it without an
> >>>> aid,
> >>>> I'd like to know what kinds of things you did to make it work. She has
> >>>> had
> >>>> some aid assistance from time to time in math in the past but since
> >>>> moving
> >>>> to AK, she has had no one in the classroom for anything. Any suggestions
> >>>> will be greatly appreciated. Another child in the district was allowed to
> >>>> skip geometry and they gave us that option. I let them know that this
> >>>> wasn't
> >>>> an option for Aubrie.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Bonnie
> >>>>
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> >> roductions.com
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> >> .com
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 08:44:45 -0500
> >> From: "Meng, Debi"<Meng at sccompanies.com>
> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> >> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <0EA82EE4F8C9694F8CE943EA7A49886006AEC5B0 at JACO.sccompanies.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> I LOVE THAT STATEMENT! "Don't lower your expectations. Don't let the
> >> school lower them ether."
> >>
> >> Thanks for the reminder.
> >>
> >> Debi
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Penny Duffy
> >> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:39 AM
> >> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
> >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> >>
> >> Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a
> >> sighted
> >> kindergartener who started first grade blind.
> >>
> >> I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different
> >> and
> >> thats with the individual part comes into play with an IEP. No one
> >> knows
> >> your child like you do.
> >>
> >> There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My daughter
> >> (who is
> >> in first grade and just learned braille) had both in her IEP.
> >> Kindergarten
> >> kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should
> >> be
> >> your son's goal. The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille
> >> for
> >> reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some of which
> >> I
> >> still dont' understand LOL)
> >>
> >> My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the
> >> IEP
> >> to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for the
> >> computer
> >> when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
> >> I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home
> >> and
> >> at school. Every child is different in what they need. Those items that
> >> the
> >> child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
> >> visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
> >>
> >> How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for
> >> every
> >> single child. My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
> >>
> >> Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals. Its an area that gets
> >> forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district
> >> has
> >> with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O& M once a week
> >> and
> >> uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O& M is important.
> >>
> >> Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra
> >> help
> >> he may need. A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
> >> independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
> >> important that all the materials are the right format for him. Abby's
> >> aid
> >> spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
> >> brailling papers and books.
> >>
> >> Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the
> >> classroom
> >> your child is able to do some how. Even fluff work.
> >>
> >> Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
> >> Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look
> >> and
> >> see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
> >> if the school district will pay for them.
> >>
> >> Its always better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
> >> expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
> >>
> >> Thats all I have to to share :) there are some wonderful resources for
> >> IEPs
> >> I don't know where to direct you. We just did our IEP in November and I
> >> was
> >> pretty clueless.
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 08:49:08 -0400
> From: "Godwin, Swatara" <sgodwin at state.pa.us>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)'"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindkid] adapting science presentation
> Message-ID:
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>
> I just came back from a conference where I was able to see a wonderful presentation from MDW Educational Services LLC http://dswinograd.web.officelive.com/default.aspx
> They are from NJ and have great ideas on adapting all types of science using everyday items. The two people who did the presentation, one is a TVI the other a science teacher have been given this presentation for a few years. They have been to the NFB conventions and will be there is year. If you are going I recommend trying the see their presentation. My son is 2 and they have great ideas on how to start simple science concepts in preschool. It gave me 'out of the box' ideas.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 09:07:32 -0400
> From: Carol Castellano <carol.joyce.castellano at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> Message-ID: <4dbffe10.028de50a.3de5.019b at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> Hi All,
>
> I will offer a rule of thumb here: every time you are tempted to
> provide or ask for an ACCOMMODATION for your child, think also in
> terms of WHAT SKILL DOES MY CHILD NEED TO LEARN so that he/she can
> handle the situation independently.
>
> For a little child in preschool or kindergarten, this would perhaps entail...
> * a tactile map of the school along with lessons in reading a tactile map
> * mobility lessons including orientation to the building, walking
> in line skills, learning how to take in information form the environment
> * time for the child to practice
> * time for the child to problem solve
> For a time, it might also include an informed watchful adult who can
> help the child progress in his/her independence by...
> * learning about the skills the child is learning
> * not intervening unless necessary
> * not providing information the child is able to glean for him/herself
> * giving the child time to problem solve whenever possible
> So the bottom line is don't think accommodations; think
> skills. Don't think someone to keep the child safe; think are we
> doing what we must do to teach the child how to keep him/herself
> safe? It is a process and it will take some time, but if you don't
> get started on that road, you won't get to that destination!
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Carol
>
> Carol Castellano
> Director of Programs
> National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
> 973-377-0976
> carol_castellano at verizon.net
> www.nopbc.org
>
>
> At 05:13 PM 5/2/2011, you wrote:
> >This brought up one more question I have. As I've said before, my
> >son Max is in a pre-K class at our regular elementary school. The
> >other day, his teacher said that Max got 'lost'...meaning that on
> >the way to the lunchroom, Max was not with them when they arrived
> >and was still back in the hall way on the way. I guess another
> >teacher found him and brought him to his teacher. As you can
> >imagine, this is something we don't want to hear, and the only thing
> >I could say is that we need to come up with a safety plan if this
> >ever happens again. Max knows the school and his normal paths
> >somewhat, but it is a large school and a lot of territory to
> >learn. Has anyone had a similar experience and what did you do to
> >make sure your child *always* has a safe place to go to? I am
> >bringing this up to his O&M and then will bring it up again at our
> >meeting but should I have something written in his IEP? It is such
> >a terrible feeling to know your child could be 'lost' and not know where to go.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On May 2, 2011, at 2:56 PM, H. Field wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Stacy,
> > > Would you please tell us more about why you've requested an aide
> > for safety? I attend lots of IEP meetings for blind/vI children as
> > a parent advocate and they don't usually raise the topic of safety.
> > So, I'm very interested to hear about your situation. Did the
> > school require this or are their circumstances which lead you to
> > believe it's necessary. Just interested.
> > >
> > > Warmest regards,
> > >
> > > Heather Field
> > >
> > > On 5/2/2011 12:56 PM, slemmonrn at spotlight-music.com wrote:
> > >> My daughter is now completing first grade, this is her first
> > year in public
> > >> school. For kindergarten we kept her at a small Catholic school. We found
> > >> she needed additional support that was unable to be provided for by the
> > >> private school. Things I have included on her IEP are a PCA (aide) for
> > >> safety, assembly of materials, enlargements, etc.. She is partially
> > >> sighted. We have an adobe Acrobat, task lighting and slant board. She is
> > >> learning keyboarding skills. She is also learning Braille and has a
> > >> Perkins's Brailler. We also have her as 'line leader' so she can go first
> > >> with transitions and not take everyone out with her cane. This part she
> > >> loves! Preferential seating, away from windows. Anything you
> > think you want
> > >> or would benefit your child, get it in writing. Make sure they have
> > >> already ordered enlarged print or Braille texts for next year, one set for
> > >> home and one for school. Flashcards the kids use for 'sight' words,
> > >> prepared in advance in large text or Braille. I couldn't believe
> > the volume
> > >> of homework in 1st grade.
> > >>
> > >> Best wishes on a smooth transition!
> > >>
> > >> Stacy
> > >>
> > >> Original Message:
> > >> -----------------
> > >> From: blindkid-request at nfbnet.org
> > >> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 12:00:16 -0500
> > >> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> > >> Subject: blindkid Digest, Vol 85, Issue 2
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Send blindkid mailing list submissions to
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> > >> than "Re: Contents of blindkid digest..."
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Today's Topics:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Jaquiss, Robert)
> > >> 2. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Thea Eaton)
> > >> 3. Transition to Kindergarten (Eleanor Robinson)
> > >> 4. Re: Geometry for next year (MARK FELIZ)
> > >> 5. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Meng, Debi)
> > >> 6. Re: Transition to Kindergarten (Erin Teply)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 1
> > >> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 12:05:30 -0700
> > >> From: "Jaquiss, Robert"<RJaquiss at nfb.org>
> > >> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> > >> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > >> Message-ID:
> > >>
> > <15131457E4DA6B4EBD8776E13F2B3E1002D1548BCA at VA3DIAXVS751.RED001.local>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > >>
> > >> Hello:
> > >>
> > >> It is my opinion that if sighted children are using computers at an
> > >> early age, then blind children should have the same opportunities.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Robert
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Robert Jaquiss
> > >> National Federation of the Blind
> > >> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
> > >> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> > >> Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > >> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> > >> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:34 PM
> > >> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> > >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > >>
> > >> How about the free NVDA? It has most of the same functions and keystrokes
> > >> as
> > >> Jaws does. And also at what age is it right to start kids on computers?
> > >> because talking to some who are now in their late teens they say they
> > >> started at around age six. is this too early?
> > >> GErardo
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Richard Holloway"<rholloway at gopbc.org>
> > >> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> > >> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:16 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I haven't been following this thread but as far as a screen reader, while
> > >> JAWS may be more expensive than what is needed, often-- especially for
> > >> small
> > >> kids, it can be used for free in "demo mode". I always forget how long it
> > >> will go-- seems like 40 or 50 minutes, but it is generally long enough for
> > >> the length of lessons kids usually have at a young age.
> > >>
> > >> There certainly is some software that is self-voicing, but it is good to
> > >> have a screen reader available as well if possible. I like the idea of
> > >> getting the kids familiar with JAWS from an early age as they
> > are likely to
> > >> be using it for a very long time. The retail package costs $900 or $1000,
> > >> but the free demo is the exact same software, only with a time expiration.
> > >> To reset the clock you have to reboot the machine.
> > >>
> > >> This is also great to know about if they tell you they have "no
> > funds for a
> > >> screen reader". It can be downloaded for free or Freedom Scientific also
> > >> distributes demo CD's with this on it.
> > >>
> > >> Incidentally, if you want to buy it after the demo is already loaded, you
> > >> don't even install the software again, you just enter an activation "key".
> > >> At least how it has worked for many years. I have not run the "demo"
> > >> version
> > >> in a year or more.
> > >>
> > >> Richard
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Apr 30, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Aaron Cannon wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi.
> > >>>
> > >>> Some other thoughts from my own daughters Kindergarten experience (she
> > >>> is sighted, I am blind):
> > >>>
> > >>> My daughter's class had the opportunity to use computers for short
> > >>> periods throughout the year, and were she blind, I would likely ask
> > >>> that she also be allowed to use a computer with some adaptive tech. I
> > >>> realize that it might be a little for a full-blown screen reader, but
> > >>> there are, I believe, some self-voicing software titles aimed at that
> > >>> age group.
> > >>>
> > >>> I would also make sure the IEP included cane travel instruction. A
> > >>> lot of cane travel instruction.
> > >>>
> > >>> That's all that occurs to me that hasn't already been mentioned.
> > >>>
> > >>> Good luck, and don't settle for anything less than everything you need.
> > >>>
> > >>> Aaron
> > >>>
> > >>> On 4/29/11, Penny Duffy<pennyduffy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a
> > >>>> sighted
> > >>>> kindergartener who started first grade blind.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> thats with the individual part comes into play with an
> > IEP. No one knows
> > >>>> your child like you do.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My daughter
> > >> (who
> > >>>> is
> > >>>> in first grade and just learned braille) had both in her IEP.
> > >>>> Kindergarten
> > >>>> kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should
> > >>>> be
> > >>>> your son's goal. The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille
> > >>>> for
> > >>>> reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some
> > of which I
> > >>>> still dont' understand LOL)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the
> > >>>> IEP
> > >>>> to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for
> > the computer
> > >>>> when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
> > >>>> I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> at school. Every child is different in what they need. Those items that
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
> > >>>> visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
> > >>>>
> > >>>> How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for
> > >>>> every
> > >>>> single child. My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals. Its an area that gets
> > >>>> forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district
> > >>>> has
> > >>>> with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O& M once a week
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O& M is important.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra
> > >>>> help
> > >>>> he may need. A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
> > >>>> independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
> > >>>> important that all the materials are the right format for him. Abby's
> > >>>> aid
> > >>>> spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
> > >>>> brailling papers and books.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the
> > >>>> classroom
> > >>>> your child is able to do some how. Even fluff work.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
> > >>>> Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
> > >>>> if the school district will pay for them.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Its always better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
> > >>>> expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thats all I have to to share :) there are some wonderful resources for
> > >>>> IEPs
> > >>>> I don't know where to direct you. We just did our IEP in November and I
> > >>>> was
> > >>>> pretty clueless.
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> --Penny
> > >>>> ----------
> > >>>> Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Erin Teply<eteply at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I am preparing for our IEP roll-up meeting as my son Max will be
> > >>>>> starting
> > >>>>> kindergarten next year. He is my first child to attend public school,
> > >>>>> so
> > >>>>> the process is new to me and I have so many questions around how they
> > >>>>> place
> > >>>>> kids in the classroom, what they consider, etc. I also have questions
> > >>>>> as
> > >>>>> to what 'should be' on his IEP as educational goals aren't necessarily
> > >>>>> going
> > >>>>> to be on as he will have the same goals as everyone else. I've got
> > >>>>> questions on what technology should be introduced, if any, along with
> > >>>>> his
> > >>>>> Perkins Brailler. Because I feel like there is so much I don't know, I
> > >>>>> am
> > >>>>> sending a letter to the school prior to the meeting to make sure all my
> > >>>>> questions are addressed.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If anyone has a child close in age or can remember what they did prior
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>> kindergarten with respect to placement, IEP goals, technology and
> > >>>>> anything
> > >>>>> else, please share with me what you can.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks so much,
> > >>>>> Erin Teply
> > >>>>> _______________________________________________
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> > >> .com
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> > >> roductions.com
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> > >>
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> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 2
> > >> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 15:05:18 -0500
> > >> From: "Thea Eaton"<thea at doodledoo.com>
> > >> To: "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind
> > >> children\)'"<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > >> Message-ID:<000601cc083b$1847c0b0$48d74210$@com>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > >>
> > >> The only keys necessary to successfully navigate Flash content on the web
> > >> with a screen reader, are the up and down arrow keys and the
> > Enter or Space
> > >> bar. I have heard of children as young as 3 being able to use a screen
> > >> readerlike this online. It is never too early to get your child
> > started with
> > >> adaptive tech. Hopefully, in the future there will be more sites that are
> > >> screen reader accessible available to access and also practice
> > their screen
> > >> reader skills on.
> > >>
> > >> Thea Eaton
> > >> DoodleDoo
> > >> www.doodledoo.com
> > >> Where early birds learn.
> > >> 1-888-42 DOODLE
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > >> Behalf Of Jaquiss, Robert
> > >> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:06 PM
> > >> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> > >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > >>
> > >> Hello:
> > >>
> > >> It is my opinion that if sighted children are using computers at an
> > >> early age, then blind children should have the same opportunities.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Robert
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Robert Jaquiss
> > >> National Federation of the Blind
> > >> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
> > >> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> > >> Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > >> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> > >> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:34 PM
> > >> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> > >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > >>
> > >> How about the free NVDA? It has most of the same functions and
> > keystrokes as
> > >>
> > >> Jaws does. And also at what age is it right to start kids on computers?
> > >> because talking to some who are now in their late teens they say they
> > >> started at around age six. is this too early?
> > >> GErardo
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Richard Holloway"<rholloway at gopbc.org>
> > >> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> > >> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:16 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I haven't been following this thread but as far as a screen reader, while
> > >> JAWS may be more expensive than what is needed, often--
> > especially for small
> > >>
> > >> kids, it can be used for free in "demo mode". I always forget how long it
> > >> will go-- seems like 40 or 50 minutes, but it is generally long enough for
> > >> the length of lessons kids usually have at a young age.
> > >>
> > >> There certainly is some software that is self-voicing, but it is good to
> > >> have a screen reader available as well if possible. I like the idea of
> > >> getting the kids familiar with JAWS from an early age as they
> > are likely to
> > >> be using it for a very long time. The retail package costs $900 or $1000,
> > >> but the free demo is the exact same software, only with a time expiration.
> > >> To reset the clock you have to reboot the machine.
> > >>
> > >> This is also great to know about if they tell you they have "no
> > funds for a
> > >> screen reader". It can be downloaded for free or Freedom Scientific also
> > >> distributes demo CD's with this on it.
> > >>
> > >> Incidentally, if you want to buy it after the demo is already loaded, you
> > >> don't even install the software again, you just enter an activation "key".
> > >> At least how it has worked for many years. I have not run the
> > "demo" version
> > >>
> > >> in a year or more.
> > >>
> > >> Richard
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Apr 30, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Aaron Cannon wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi.
> > >>>
> > >>> Some other thoughts from my own daughters Kindergarten experience (she
> > >>> is sighted, I am blind):
> > >>>
> > >>> My daughter's class had the opportunity to use computers for short
> > >>> periods throughout the year, and were she blind, I would likely ask
> > >>> that she also be allowed to use a computer with some adaptive tech. I
> > >>> realize that it might be a little for a full-blown screen reader, but
> > >>> there are, I believe, some self-voicing software titles aimed at that
> > >>> age group.
> > >>>
> > >>> I would also make sure the IEP included cane travel instruction. A
> > >>> lot of cane travel instruction.
> > >>>
> > >>> That's all that occurs to me that hasn't already been mentioned.
> > >>>
> > >>> Good luck, and don't settle for anything less than everything you need.
> > >>>
> > >>> Aaron
> > >>>
> > >>> On 4/29/11, Penny Duffy<pennyduffy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a
> > >>>> sighted
> > >>>> kindergartener who started first grade blind.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> thats with the individual part comes into play with an
> > IEP. No one knows
> > >>>> your child like you do.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My
> > daughter (who
> > >>>> is
> > >>>> in first grade and just learned braille) had both in her IEP.
> > >>>> Kindergarten
> > >>>> kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should
> > >>>> be
> > >>>> your son's goal. The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille
> > >>>> for
> > >>>> reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some
> > of which I
> > >>>> still dont' understand LOL)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the
> > >>>> IEP
> > >>>> to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for
> > the computer
> > >>>> when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
> > >>>> I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> at school. Every child is different in what they need. Those items that
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
> > >>>> visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
> > >>>>
> > >>>> How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for
> > >>>> every
> > >>>> single child. My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals. Its an area that gets
> > >>>> forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district
> > >>>> has
> > >>>> with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O& M once a week
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O& M is important.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra
> > >>>> help
> > >>>> he may need. A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
> > >>>> independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
> > >>>> important that all the materials are the right format for him. Abby's
> > >>>> aid
> > >>>> spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
> > >>>> brailling papers and books.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the
> > >>>> classroom
> > >>>> your child is able to do some how. Even fluff work.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
> > >>>> Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
> > >>>> if the school district will pay for them.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Its always better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
> > >>>> expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thats all I have to to share :) there are some wonderful resources for
> > >>>> IEPs
> > >>>> I don't know where to direct you. We just did our IEP in November and I
> > >>>> was
> > >>>> pretty clueless.
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> --Penny
> > >>>> ----------
> > >>>> Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Erin Teply<eteply at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I am preparing for our IEP roll-up meeting as my son Max will be
> > >>>>> starting
> > >>>>> kindergarten next year. He is my first child to attend public school,
> > >>>>> so
> > >>>>> the process is new to me and I have so many questions around how they
> > >>>>> place
> > >>>>> kids in the classroom, what they consider, etc. I also have questions
> > >>>>> as
> > >>>>> to what 'should be' on his IEP as educational goals aren't necessarily
> > >>>>> going
> > >>>>> to be on as he will have the same goals as everyone else. I've got
> > >>>>> questions on what technology should be introduced, if any, along with
> > >>>>> his
> > >>>>> Perkins Brailler. Because I feel like there is so much I don't know, I
> > >>>>> am
> > >>>>> sending a letter to the school prior to the meeting to make sure all my
> > >>>>> questions are addressed.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If anyone has a child close in age or can remember what they did prior
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>> kindergarten with respect to placement, IEP goals, technology and
> > >>>>> anything
> > >>>>> else, please share with me what you can.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks so much,
> > >>>>> Erin Teply
> > >>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>> blindkid mailing list
> > >>>>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
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> > >>
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> > >> .com
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> > >> roductions.com
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> > >>
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> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 3
> > >> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:42:19 -0400 (EDT)
> > >> From: Eleanor Robinson<erobin8725 at aol.com>
> > >> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> > >> Subject: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > >> Message-ID:<8CDD65FC80B8C9B-1030-28A3E at webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Aaron talked about self-voicing software for children who are
> > kindergarten
> > >> age. We have a series of self-voiced computer games called
> > PizzaGames that
> > >> just might be what you are looking for. They start with a
> > simple cause and
> > >> effect game called Here Comes the Duck, and continue through letters,
> > >> numbers, spelling, numbers plus and numbers minus games. Each game sold
> > >> separately is $7.00, but they are sold in two packs, Baby Bear,
> > 3 games for
> > >> $15.00 and Mama Bear, 4 games for $20.00. Each of these games
> > self-voices,
> > >> has sounds and pictures using the SAPI voice on your computer.
> > >>
> > >> They can be purchased and downloaded from our website www.7128.com. We
> > >> also have a listing of the top 25 websites for gamers who are blind. We
> > >> did a demo yesterday for a conference at Perkins School and our games were
> > >> well received. If any of you were at that conference, you saw us at the
> > >> top of the stairs near the coffee and doughnuts.
> > >>
> > >> Eleanor Robinson
> > >> 7-128 Software
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 4
> > >> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 19:25:55 -0700
> > >> From: MARK FELIZ<felizfamily5 at msn.com>
> > >> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> > >> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Geometry for next year
> > >> Message-ID:<BAY152-ds856BF9CF9E75CFA9B9F219A9F0 at phx.gbl>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > >> reply-type=original
> > >>
> > >> Hello Bonnie,
> > >>
> > >> I have been successful in requesting a student aide, a student who knows
> > >> math well and receives elective credit for being a teacher's aide, for my
> > >> students. It is also very important to coordinate with the classroom
> > >> teacher
> > >> to insure that your blind student has all the supplemental handouts along
> > >> side her peers. Most of my teachers that I deal with do tend to alter at
> > >> the
> > >> last minute; however, I try to schedule my students' math classes later in
> > >> the day so I can get a head start on last minute handouts.
> > >>
> > >> Also, make sure your child fully understands one, two, and three
> > >> dimensional
> > >> raised line drawings ahead of time. Make sure the teacher has a good
> > >> variety
> > >> of tactual three-D shapes. If the teacher primarily uses his own
> > curriculum
> > >> handouts for the class do not allow him to resort to using the
> > braille book
> > >> for your blind student. In this case I find that the student is not given
> > >> the same teaching and concepts as the rest of the class.
> > >>
> > >> Let us hear how it goes.
> > >> Mark F
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Mark Feliz
> > >> President, National Federation of the Blind of Arizona
> > >> East Valley Chapter
> > >> 1038 West Hillview Street
> > >> Mesa, Arizona 85201
> > >> Home Phone: 480-890-8943
> > >> Cell Phone: 480-560-0641
> > >> National Federation of the Blind, Pledge.
> > >>
> > >> I pledge.
> > >> to participate actively in the effort of the National Federation of the
> > >> Blind.
> > >> to achieve equality, opportunity, and security for the blind.
> > >> To support the policies and programs of the Federation.
> > >> and to abide by its constitution.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --------------------------------------------------
> > >> From: "Aaron Cannon"<cannona at fireantproductions.com>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:55 PM
> > >> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> > >> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Geometry for next year
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Bonnie.
> > >>>
> > >>> First, where I'm coming from: I have almost completed my bachelors
> > >>> degree in computer science, with a minor in mathematics. I have not
> > >>> used an aid much in college, but I don't know how I would have passed
> > >>> geometry in high school without one. I'm not saying it can't be done,
> > >>> I'm not even prepared to say that I couldn't have done it without an
> > >>> aid, but looking back on it, I think it was a good thing I had one.
> > >>>
> > >>> My aid primarily helped me understand what was being shown on the
> > >>> board. She had a rubber mat and a pin wheel, and she would draw what
> > >>> the instructor was demonstrating. Without her, I likely would have
> > >>> been lost.
> > >>>
> > >>> So, in short, based on my experience, my advice is that you request an
> > >>> aid.
> > >>>
> > >>> Aaron
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 4/19/11, Bonnie Lucas<lucas.bonnie at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> Hello everyone,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We are getting Aubrie's schedule together for next year. She is expected
> > >>>> to
> > >>>> take geometry but I'm just wondering if kids have generally had an aid
> > >>>> for
> > >>>> this one or not. I personally was finally given an aid, which helped, I
> > >>>> think. However, if some of your kids have managed to take it without an
> > >>>> aid,
> > >>>> I'd like to know what kinds of things you did to make it work. She has
> > >>>> had
> > >>>> some aid assistance from time to time in math in the past but since
> > >>>> moving
> > >>>> to AK, she has had no one in the classroom for anything. Any suggestions
> > >>>> will be greatly appreciated. Another child in the district was
> > allowed to
> > >>>> skip geometry and they gave us that option. I let them know that this
> > >>>> wasn't
> > >>>> an option for Aubrie.
> > >>>>
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> > >>
> > >> Message: 5
> > >> Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 08:44:45 -0500
> > >> From: "Meng, Debi"<Meng at sccompanies.com>
> > >> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> > >> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > >> Message-ID:
> > >> <0EA82EE4F8C9694F8CE943EA7A49886006AEC5B0 at JACO.sccompanies.com>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > >>
> > >> I LOVE THAT STATEMENT! "Don't lower your expectations. Don't let the
> > >> school lower them ether."
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the reminder.
> > >>
> > >> Debi
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > >> On Behalf Of Penny Duffy
> > >> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:39 AM
> > >> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
> > >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten
> > >>
> > >> Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a
> > >> sighted
> > >> kindergartener who started first grade blind.
> > >>
> > >> I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different
> > >> and
> > >> thats with the individual part comes into play with an IEP. No one
> > >> knows
> > >> your child like you do.
> > >>
> > >> There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My daughter
> > >> (who is
> > >> in first grade and just learned braille) had both in her IEP.
> > >> Kindergarten
> > >> kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should
> > >> be
> > >> your son's goal. The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille
> > >> for
> > >> reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some of which
> > >> I
> > >> still dont' understand LOL)
> > >>
> > >> My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the
> > >> IEP
> > >> to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for the
> > >> computer
> > >> when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
> > >> I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home
> > >> and
> > >> at school. Every child is different in what they need. Those items that
> > >> the
> > >> child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
> > >> visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
> > >>
> > >> How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for
> > >> every
> > >> single child. My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
> > >>
> > >> Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals. Its an area that gets
> > >> forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district
> > >> has
> > >> with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O& M once a week
> > >> and
> > >> uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O& M is important.
> > >>
> > >> Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra
> > >> help
> > >> he may need. A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
> > >> independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
> > >> important that all the materials are the right format for him. Abby's
> > >> aid
> > >> spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
> > >> brailling papers and books.
> > >>
> > >> Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the
> > >> classroom
> > >> your child is able to do some how. Even fluff work.
> > >>
> > >> Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
> > >> Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look
> > >> and
> > >> see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
> > >> if the school district will pay for them.
> > >>
> > >> Its always better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
> > >> expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
> > >>
> > >> Thats all I have to to share :) there are some wonderful resources for
> > >> IEPs
> > >> I don't know where to direct you. We just did our IEP in November and I
> > >> was
> > >> pretty clueless.
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