[blindkid] blindkid Digest, Vol 99, Issue 5
Carol Akers
purplecakers at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 9 02:01:16 UTC 2012
Sarah,
As others said, a toddler bed isn't any bigger than a crib, so would really be a waste of money. I, also used the twin bed & a bed rail. There are some nice rails that are actually netting type or cloth, which basically protect by giving kids a defined boundary. Along with protection from falling, it also gives the child an idea of how much space there is for wiggle room. Eventually, my son Dustin discovered how to crawl out the bottom & then we got rid of the rail, but it was helpful for a yr or so. He has had a double bed for years now. Against the wall is always a safer method. As for the mattress on the floor, I am personally opposed to it for multiple reasons, including hygienic & the added strain to adult backs! Good luck!
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> 1. From a crib to a bed? (Sarah Dallis)
> 2. Re: From a crib to a bed? (Penny Duffy)
> 3. Re: From a crib to a bed? (Brandy W)
> 4. Re: From a crib to a bed? (Carly B)
> 5. Re: From a crib to a bed? (Carly B)
> 6. Re: From a crib to a bed? (Richard Holloway)
> 7. Re: From a crib to a bed? (Sarah Dallis)
> 8. Re: From a crib to a bed? (Brandy W)
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> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 13:00:14 -0400
> From: Sarah Dallis <sarah.dallis at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [blindkid] From a crib to a bed?
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> Hi everyone. My daughter is coming up on her 2 year birthday and she is
> blind (there may be some light perception but not much). She doesn't walk,
> talk, or crawl. (She's so close to walking and talking, but is not into
> being on all fours to crawl or play.) She's getting a little big and I
> would like to move her out of her crib, but I don't know what bed to get. I
> can't switch her to a toddler bed because she'll fall out. Her TVI said to
> get a full size mattress and put it on the floor so if she rolls or falls
> off it's not a far drop. I talked to another parent who got her blind son a
> futon that was low to the ground, pushed it into a corner in the room and
> then put a pillow across the open side. But then again he knows how to get
> off a couch, while my daugter will fall off the couch. I'm not sure what
> the best option would be so I wanted to gather others opinons.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Sarah Dallis
>
> Mom to Ellie: http://elliesgrace.blogspot.com
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> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 13:43:18 -0400
> From: Penny Duffy <pennyduffy at gmail.com>
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> Sarah a toddler bed and a crib is almost the same same size. Toddler beds
> are closer to the floor and the child can get in and out of the bed. You
> could look into a a twin bed and get a bed rail for it. That is what I
> would do with both my than sighted children at two if I was concerned they
> would fall out of bed. I don't remember that far back. Does she fall out
> of beds often? She may be fine. Not sure if its a blindness thing and just
> every kid is different kind of thing. As a step first you could start with
> the mattress on the floor but my kids would have ended up on the floor
> anyways. I was reminded this past week at convention that I know nothing
> about blind babies.
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> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Sarah Dallis <sarah.dallis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone. My daughter is coming up on her 2 year birthday and she is
>> blind (there may be some light perception but not much). She doesn't walk,
>> talk, or crawl. (She's so close to walking and talking, but is not into
>> being on all fours to crawl or play.) She's getting a little big and I
>> would like to move her out of her crib, but I don't know what bed to get. I
>> can't switch her to a toddler bed because she'll fall out. Her TVI said to
>> get a full size mattress and put it on the floor so if she rolls or falls
>> off it's not a far drop. I talked to another parent who got her blind son a
>> futon that was low to the ground, pushed it into a corner in the room and
>> then put a pillow across the open side. But then again he knows how to get
>> off a couch, while my daugter will fall off the couch. I'm not sure what
>> the best option would be so I wanted to gather others opinons.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Sarah Dallis
>>
>> Mom to Ellie: http://elliesgrace.blogspot.com
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> From: "Brandy W" <ballstobooks at gmail.com>
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> Hi, I can think of a few options. One is the crib is made for kids up to 3
> so if you are both ok with it you can leave here there till she gets used to
> it. You could just put the crib mattress on the floor, or get a twin, and
> put a bed tent over it. They make all kinds of cute kid ones and then you
> could zip her in at night, and help her get out in the morning so she will
> eventually learn how.
>
> Bran
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> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Sarah Dallis
> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 1:00 PM
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> Subject: [blindkid] From a crib to a bed?
>
> Hi everyone. My daughter is coming up on her 2 year birthday and she is
> blind (there may be some light perception but not much). She doesn't walk,
> talk, or crawl. (She's so close to walking and talking, but is not into
> being on all fours to crawl or play.) She's getting a little big and I would
> like to move her out of her crib, but I don't know what bed to get. I can't
> switch her to a toddler bed because she'll fall out. Her TVI said to get a
> full size mattress and put it on the floor so if she rolls or falls off it's
> not a far drop. I talked to another parent who got her blind son a futon
> that was low to the ground, pushed it into a corner in the room and then put
> a pillow across the open side. But then again he knows how to get off a
> couch, while my daugter will fall off the couch. I'm not sure what the best
> option would be so I wanted to gather others opinons.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Sarah Dallis
>
> Mom to Ellie: http://elliesgrace.blogspot.com
>
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> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 13:34:14 -0500
> From: Carly B <barnesraiser at gmail.com>
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> Hi Sarah,
>
> When we adopted our blind son at age 5, we put him straight into a toddler
> bed that we got at Ikea. Interesting to me, Ikea toddler beds are to
> European standards, not U.S. and so they are more narrow and longer. As a
> result, at least for us, the bed worked just fine for our then 5yo until he
> was about 7. (And he is not a small kid... 80th percentile on the U.S.
> charts.)
>
> Ikea beds come with mattresses. We spent about $100 and except for sheets
> (which are very reasonable) regular bedding can fit on it. We snugged it
> between the wall and our bed (for attachment reasons) and it fit just
> perfect. When we finally put him in his own bedroom in a twin bed, he was
> fine.
>
> I'm not sure where you live or how near an Ikea store may be to you, but
> here's a link (there's even a bed with three sides that against a wall
> would act much like a crib:
>
> http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/categories/departments/childrens_ikea/18723/
>
> hth!
>
> :) Carolynn
>
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Sarah Dallis <sarah.dallis at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone. My daughter is coming up on her 2 year birthday and she is
>> blind (there may be some light perception but not much). She doesn't walk,
>> talk, or crawl. (She's so close to walking and talking, but is not into
>> being on all fours to crawl or play.) She's getting a little big and I
>> would like to move her out of her crib, but I don't know what bed to get. I
>> can't switch her to a toddler bed because she'll fall out. Her TVI said to
>> get a full size mattress and put it on the floor so if she rolls or falls
>> off it's not a far drop. I talked to another parent who got her blind son a
>> futon that was low to the ground, pushed it into a corner in the room and
>> then put a pillow across the open side. But then again he knows how to get
>> off a couch, while my daugter will fall off the couch. I'm not sure what
>> the best option would be so I wanted to gather others opinons.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Sarah Dallis
>>
>> Mom to Ellie: http://elliesgrace.blogspot.com
>>
>> Pampered Chef Consultant
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>> Order 24/7 Online: http://www.pamperedchef.biz/sarahdallis
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> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 13:36:40 -0500
> From: Carly B <barnesraiser at gmail.com>
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> I'm sorry, I think the mattresses are sold separately. Sorry about that.
>
> :) Carolynn
>
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Sarah Dallis <sarah.dallis at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone. My daughter is coming up on her 2 year birthday and she is
>> blind (there may be some light perception but not much). She doesn't walk,
>> talk, or crawl. (She's so close to walking and talking, but is not into
>> being on all fours to crawl or play.) She's getting a little big and I
>> would like to move her out of her crib, but I don't know what bed to get. I
>> can't switch her to a toddler bed because she'll fall out. Her TVI said to
>> get a full size mattress and put it on the floor so if she rolls or falls
>> off it's not a far drop. I talked to another parent who got her blind son a
>> futon that was low to the ground, pushed it into a corner in the room and
>> then put a pillow across the open side. But then again he knows how to get
>> off a couch, while my daugter will fall off the couch. I'm not sure what
>> the best option would be so I wanted to gather others opinons.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Sarah Dallis
>>
>> Mom to Ellie: http://elliesgrace.blogspot.com
>>
>> Pampered Chef Consultant
>>
>> Order 24/7 Online: http://www.pamperedchef.biz/sarahdallis
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> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 14:48:17 -0400
> From: Richard Holloway <rholloway at gopbc.org>
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> Subject: Re: [blindkid] From a crib to a bed?
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> We were worried about this with our daughter (no light perception, now age 9) when she was a baby as well.
>
> As the parent of three kids, two typically sighted and one of the sighted kids now 18 (so she is 9 years older than my blind daughter), I probably should have realized we were overly concerned about this for our blind child. In retrospect, my oldest and very typical daughter was more prone to fall out of the bed and in fact of the three kids, both of the sighted kids have fallen out more. How ironic does that seem?
>
> Nonetheless, typical side-guards on a bed didn't seem the best plan for our blind daughter. We felt that sliding around them to get out of bed was confusing without a visual concept of the location (probably also incorrect, but it made sense at the time).
>
> What we ended up doing was using a day-bed with a trundle bed that slides from under the main bed and then lifts up to make a double bed. At night, we'd pull out the lower bed a couple of feet and Kendra would sleep on her bed with no side rail or guard of any kind. Once in a while, she'd roll off (not often). When she did, she would "fall" about one mattress thickness to the lower bed. If she "fell" again, she was maybe 3 inches more than a mattress thickness above the carpet over a carpet pad. Think of two mattresses, stacked like steps above the carpet. If that is not enough for your concern, add a pad at the edge of the lower "step".
>
> With this setup, In the morning, we would just push in the lower bed. If she had a bad night (or a sleepover when she was older) we'd pull the lower bed clear out and raise it, then the parent (or sighted guest) would sleep on the extended part of the double bed without the sides and block Kendra in somewhat.
>
> Over time, it became a non-issue and we never had a single bed-fall worth mentioning. I know every situation is different, but if you think about it, many kids (and adults) sleep in very dark places and get out of bed with very little visual assistance, so I expect it is not all that surprising that there are generally few issues with blind children falling out of bed more than average.
>
> We did have a situation when Kendra was younger though, and still in her crib which I am still trying to figure out: Kendra, as it turns out, was a "climber". One night, we walked into her room and found her fast asleep, literally balanced across two (perpendicular) sides of her crib, face down, right in the corner. (One arm and one leg each inside and outside the crib; amazing!) For that we found something called a "crib tent", because we did feel that a fall to even a carpeted floor from over the top rail of the crib was potentially very dangerous. Problem solved. They also keep most cats out of the crib if that should become a concern.
>
> Here is a link to a picture of one: http://reviews.buybuybaby.com/8658/BAB15029064/reviews.htm
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Sarah Dallis wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone. My daughter is coming up on her 2 year birthday and she is
>> blind (there may be some light perception but not much). She doesn't walk,
>> talk, or crawl. (She's so close to walking and talking, but is not into
>> being on all fours to crawl or play.) She's getting a little big and I
>> would like to move her out of her crib, but I don't know what bed to get. I
>> can't switch her to a toddler bed because she'll fall out. Her TVI said to
>> get a full size mattress and put it on the floor so if she rolls or falls
>> off it's not a far drop. I talked to another parent who got her blind son a
>> futon that was low to the ground, pushed it into a corner in the room and
>> then put a pillow across the open side. But then again he knows how to get
>> off a couch, while my daugter will fall off the couch. I'm not sure what
>> the best option would be so I wanted to gather others opinons.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Sarah Dallis
>>
>> Mom to Ellie: http://elliesgrace.blogspot.com
>>
>> Pampered Chef Consultant
>>
>> Order 24/7 Online: http://www.pamperedchef.biz/sarahdallis
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> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 16:54:38 -0400
> From: Sarah Dallis <sarah.dallis at gmail.com>
> To: "blindkid at nfbnet.org" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] From a crib to a bed?
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> Thanks to you all. I guess my primary concern for her falling is when she wakes up in the middle of the night (like she normally does between 2-4am) that she will fall out then.
>
> And I have considered keeping her in her crib but I'm pregnant with #2 and it's hard for me to get her in and out. And to change the sheets and to give her meds when necessary at night without pulling her out. My husband is a huge help but I'm the one who stays home with her, so I get up in the middle of the night for meds.
>
> Sent from Sarah's iPhone
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> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 16:59:45 -0400
> From: "Brandy W" <ballstobooks at gmail.com>
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> Does the crib turn into a toddler bed? If it does you can put the open side
> towards the wall, and just roll it away from the wall to access her.
> Congratulations on the second little one.
>
>
>
> "To learn to read is to light a fire; every syllable that is spelled out is
> a spark."
> - Victor Hugo
>
> Brandy Wojcik Discovery Toys Educational Consultant and Team leader
> (512) 689-5045
> www.playtoachieve.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Sarah Dallis
> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 4:55 PM
> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] From a crib to a bed?
>
> Thanks to you all. I guess my primary concern for her falling is when she
> wakes up in the middle of the night (like she normally does between 2-4am)
> that she will fall out then.
>
> And I have considered keeping her in her crib but I'm pregnant with #2 and
> it's hard for me to get her in and out. And to change the sheets and to give
> her meds when necessary at night without pulling her out. My husband is a
> huge help but I'm the one who stays home with her, so I get up in the middle
> of the night for meds.
>
> Sent from Sarah's iPhone
>
> Sarah Dallis
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