[blindkid] Street crossing

Heather Field missheather at comcast.net
Thu May 17 16:15:33 UTC 2012


Sounds like a good idea in theory. However, unless sisters have changed 
significantly since I was a child, her sister will tell her that mum is 
following behind. This will happen even if mum says not to tell.

You could do some practising over the summer. Before setting out you could 
have your daughter recite the steps eg. turn left after I come out of the 
school gate, walk to the corner etc. This is not to necessarily turn her 
into a route-only traveller, it is to get her into the habit of thinking 
about taking responsibility for knowing where she is and where she is going.
I believe that two children this age should easily be able to get themselves 
home from school, given the route you have described. You will have to tell 
them your rules for how they do it. For example, you might want your blind 
daughter to walk independently, using her cane. so, you tell the girls that 
Abby does not walk sighted guide. However, so that it doesn't take too long, 
you might tell Abby that she has to walk quickly and that her sister can 
give her advice if she is veering too much etc. If you try it a couple of 
times over the summer you'll know what to tell them. I applaud you for this 
decision. Far more than any skills that are ever taught to blind children is 
instilling in them a belief that they can do things for themselves. My 
mother had eight children to care for and she did not have the time to teach 
me many things. However, she treated me just as she treated my sighted 
siblings, expecting me to do things. Usually, I figured out a way to do them 
and if I couldn't figure it out, I asked my sisters to show me how. Because 
my mother and father and siblings believed that I could do things I believed 
it too. As we go through life we learn that, most of the time, when we 
believe we can do something we try to do it and we find that we can. When 
most of the messages blind children receive are negative, focusing on all 
the things that they can't do - and shouldn't try to do, teaching your child 
that she can believe in her ability to do things is the best blindness 
skill - and life skill for that matter - you can possibly give her. Of 
course, belief in oneself is learned by successful experiences of trying and 
succeeding. It isn't learned by hearing people simply say "you can do 
things".
Just my opinion of course. :)

Warmly,
Heather Field





-----Original Message----- 
From: Trudy Pickrel
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:02 AM
To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindkid] Street crossing

Penny
For a week or two at the start of the school year why don't you follow 
silently behind her. Until you are comfortable

Trudy L Pickrel
President MD Parents Blind Children
Owner TLC by the Lake poodles

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> Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 14:34:05 -0500
> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
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> If I had  been taught at a younger age to cross streets and actually 
> learned
> with the discovery method rather than the route method I would probably be 
> a
> better traveler and street crosser today, too.
> If my kids had been more capable of learning some travel skills I would 
> have
> found someone else to teach them street crossing because for me it's a 
> fear
> factor, not that I can't do it.  I have always been scared of streets even
> when there are no cars on them.  Silly, huh.
> Barbara
>
>
>
>
> Poetry is an echo, asking a shadow to dance. -- Carl Sandburg
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Arielle Silverman
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:47 AM
> To: Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] walking home from school.
>
> I totally agree with Barbara. What kind of street will she need to
> cross to get home?
> The best way for her to improve her street-crossing skills is through
> practice and the best way to get practice is to do the crossing every
> day!
> Speaking from the other side of the coin, because I am blind, I wasn't
> allowed to walk to or from the bus stop alone until I was 13--and the
> street crossings I needed to do for this route were merely residential
> crossings. I have always had trouble with street crossings and I
> believe if I had been expected to learn and use those skills earlier,
> I would have been a much better and safer traveler.
> Arielle
>
> On 5/15/12, Barbara Hammel <poetlori8 at msn.com> wrote:
>> If Abby's cane skills are good, practice street crossings over the 
>> summer,
>> even if it's just the streets on the school route.  If, when school
>> starts,
>>
>> you feel comfortable that she could do it alone if need be, then let them
>> walk.  If you had this plan when she could see, there is no reason why 
>> you
>> can't do it even though she is now blind.
>> The one thing in considering, here, is that you don't want her to depend
>> upon older sibling in case she has to go alone some time.
>> The time will be right when she can do it safely.  I have confidence that
>> you'll know when that is.
>> Barbara
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Poetry is an echo, asking a shadow to dance. -- Carl Sandburg
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Penny Duffy
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:30 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
>> Subject: [blindkid] walking home from school.
>>
>> Hello everyone.
>>
>> I am considering have my kids walk home from school next year without
>> me.Did I really just say that.  We are walking distance from the school.
>> They have walked the route often.  My kids who will be in 3rd grade and
>> 5th
>> grade next year and would be walking home TOGETHER.  One of my kids are
>> blind and the other one is sighted.   I am really looking for some input.
>> I can't see why my daughter's blindness is that much of an  issue. 
>> Should
>> i wait till Abby's O&M street crossing skills are better?  When Abby was
>> in
>> kindergarten (and sighted) I always thought that I would let the kids 
>> walk
>> home when they were win 5th and 3rd grade.
>>
>> I think it would be great for both my kids than again the kids may reject
>> the idea and the rules that come with it.
>>
>> --Penny
>> ----------
>> My Blog - visionfora.blogspot.com
>>
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> Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 16:08:21 -0400
> From: Penny Duffy <pennyduffy at gmail.com>
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> They would need to cross two major streets (major doesn't mean crazy busy
> just they do involve some attention) It is all in a residental area. The
> first street has a crossing guard and the other street is just a little 
> bit
> near were I live so I could meet them and watch them cross at least the
> first few times.   Its only a ten minute walk. Since they are doing it
> together i think they would be fine.  My daughter who is blind is the
> younger sibling.
>
> I think it would instill a bit more independence for both kids. Nothing
> beats time without your over protective mother hovering over you.  The 
> goal
> would be that perhaps she could walk home by herself in 5th grade but at
> least by middle school.
>
> -Penny
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Arielle Silverman 
> <arielle71 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I totally agree with Barbara. What kind of street will she need to
>> cross to get home?
>> The best way for her to improve her street-crossing skills is through
>> practice and the best way to get practice is to do the crossing every
>> day!
>> Speaking from the other side of the coin, because I am blind, I wasn't
>> allowed to walk to or from the bus stop alone until I was 13--and the
>> street crossings I needed to do for this route were merely residential
>> crossings. I have always had trouble with street crossings and I
>> believe if I had been expected to learn and use those skills earlier,
>> I would have been a much better and safer traveler.
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 5/15/12, Barbara Hammel <poetlori8 at msn.com> wrote:
>>> If Abby's cane skills are good, practice street crossings over the
>> summer,
>>> even if it's just the streets on the school route.  If, when school
>> starts,
>>>
>>> you feel comfortable that she could do it alone if need be, then let 
>>> them
>>> walk.  If you had this plan when she could see, there is no reason why
>> you
>>> can't do it even though she is now blind.
>>> The one thing in considering, here, is that you don't want her to depend
>>> upon older sibling in case she has to go alone some time.
>>> The time will be right when she can do it safely.  I have confidence 
>>> that
>>> you'll know when that is.
>>> Barbara
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Poetry is an echo, asking a shadow to dance. -- Carl Sandburg
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Penny Duffy
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:30 AM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
>>> Subject: [blindkid] walking home from school.
>>>
>>> Hello everyone.
>>>
>>> I am considering have my kids walk home from school next year without
>>> me.Did I really just say that.  We are walking distance from the school.
>>> They have walked the route often.  My kids who will be in 3rd grade and
>> 5th
>>> grade next year and would be walking home TOGETHER.  One of my kids are
>>> blind and the other one is sighted.   I am really looking for some 
>>> input.
>>> I can't see why my daughter's blindness is that much of an  issue.
>> Should
>>> i wait till Abby's O&M street crossing skills are better?  When Abby was
>> in
>>> kindergarten (and sighted) I always thought that I would let the kids
>> walk
>>> home when they were win 5th and 3rd grade.
>>>
>>> I think it would be great for both my kids than again the kids may 
>>> reject
>>> the idea and the rules that come with it.
>>>
>>> --Penny
>>> ----------
>>> My Blog - visionfora.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> NH Parents of Blind Children http://www.nhpobc.org/
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> Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 17:32:01 -0400
> From: Carol Castellano <carol_castellano at verizon.net>
> To: "Blind Kid Mailing List,    \(for parents of blind children\)"
>    <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] walking home from school.
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> Penny,
>
> This is a great opportunity!  work on those street-crossing skills
> now!  If she doesn't learn how to do it now--at an age-appropriate
> time--when will she?  Why NOT learn now!
>
> The only thing I'd make sure of (beyond the safe crossings) is that
> she actually does learn the way.  I have notoriously bad orientation
> (yes, I'm sighted) and walked to school with my older sister for a
> year and a half and NEVER learned my way!!!  Maybe if someone had
> given me the training then, my brain would have learned how.
>
> Carol
>
> Carol Castellano
> President, Parents of Blind Children-NJ
> Director of Programs
> National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
> 973-377-0976
> carol_castellano at verizon.net
> www.blindchildren.org
> www.nopbc.org
>
> At 04:08 PM 5/15/2012, you wrote:
>> They would need to cross two major streets (major doesn't mean crazy busy
>> just they do involve some attention) It is all in a residental area. The
>> first street has a crossing guard and the other street is just a little 
>> bit
>> near were I live so I could meet them and watch them cross at least the
>> first few times.   Its only a ten minute walk. Since they are doing it
>> together i think they would be fine.  My daughter who is blind is the
>> younger sibling.
>>
>> I think it would instill a bit more independence for both kids. Nothing
>> beats time without your over protective mother hovering over you.  The 
>> goal
>> would be that perhaps she could walk home by herself in 5th grade but at
>> least by middle school.
>>
>> -Penny
>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Arielle Silverman
>> <arielle71 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I totally agree with Barbara. What kind of street will she need to
>>> cross to get home?
>>> The best way for her to improve her street-crossing skills is through
>>> practice and the best way to get practice is to do the crossing every
>>> day!
>>> Speaking from the other side of the coin, because I am blind, I wasn't
>>> allowed to walk to or from the bus stop alone until I was 13--and the
>>> street crossings I needed to do for this route were merely residential
>>> crossings. I have always had trouble with street crossings and I
>>> believe if I had been expected to learn and use those skills earlier,
>>> I would have been a much better and safer traveler.
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 5/15/12, Barbara Hammel <poetlori8 at msn.com> wrote:
>>>> If Abby's cane skills are good, practice street crossings over the
>>> summer,
>>>> even if it's just the streets on the school route.  If, when school
>>> starts,
>>>>
>>>> you feel comfortable that she could do it alone if need be, then let 
>>>> them
>>>> walk.  If you had this plan when she could see, there is no reason why
>>> you
>>>> can't do it even though she is now blind.
>>>> The one thing in considering, here, is that you don't want her to 
>>>> depend
>>>> upon older sibling in case she has to go alone some time.
>>>> The time will be right when she can do it safely.  I have confidence 
>>>> that
>>>> you'll know when that is.
>>>> Barbara
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Poetry is an echo, asking a shadow to dance. -- Carl Sandburg
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Penny Duffy
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:30 AM
>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
>>>> Subject: [blindkid] walking home from school.
>>>>
>>>> Hello everyone.
>>>>
>>>> I am considering have my kids walk home from school next year without
>>>> me.Did I really just say that.  We are walking distance from the 
>>>> school.
>>>> They have walked the route often.  My kids who will be in 3rd grade and
>>> 5th
>>>> grade next year and would be walking home TOGETHER.  One of my kids are
>>>> blind and the other one is sighted.   I am really looking for some 
>>>> input.
>>>> I can't see why my daughter's blindness is that much of an  issue.
>>> Should
>>>> i wait till Abby's O&M street crossing skills are better?  When Abby 
>>>> was
>>> in
>>>> kindergarten (and sighted) I always thought that I would let the kids
>>> walk
>>>> home when they were win 5th and 3rd grade.
>>>>
>>>> I think it would be great for both my kids than again the kids may 
>>>> reject
>>>> the idea and the rules that come with it.
>>>>
>>>> --Penny
>>>> ----------
>>>> My Blog - visionfora.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>> NH Parents of Blind Children http://www.nhpobc.org/
>>>> NHPOBC on facebook   https://www.facebook.com/nhpobc
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>> ----------
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> Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 14:46:05 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kim Cunningham <kim at gulfimagesphoto.com>
> To: Blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindkid] NOPBC Style Show
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> Just in case you might have missed the email, I would like to repost the 
> invitation to the NOPBC 2012 Style Show. We are looking for blind and 
> visually impaired children who?will be?attending the NFB National 
> Convention to participate. Please talk with your child and find out if 
> they would be interested. Just fill out the bottom part of the form and 
> return it to me - kim at tpobc.org
> ?
> ?
> Regards,
> Kim Cunningham
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> ?
> Calling all fashionistas, models, and show-offs to walk the catwalk this 
> summer in Dallas!
> ?
> ?
> Where: NFB National Convention, Hilton Anatole, Dallas, Texas
> When: Sunday, July 1, 2012
> Show Time: 2:45pm to 4:00pm (Rehearsal 1:00pm)
> Room: To Be Announced
> ?
> Does your child have an interest in fashion? Would your child like to walk 
> the runway?
> ?
> The NOPBC would like to invite all interested children who will be 
> attending the NFB National Convention in Dallas this summer to apply to 
> walk in this years fashion show. We are seeking male and female models, 
> ages 6 to 18 yrs. Old. Each participant will wear their own favorite 
> fashionable outfit. You can choose any style: formal, casual, sportswear, 
> or business attire.
> ?
> Please complete the below application and return to Kim Cunningham 
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> ?
> You must plan to attend the convention to be considered.
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> Age:
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> Music Choice for Walking the Runway (We will try to fulfill your child?s 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 16:03:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Debby B <bwbddl at yahoo.com>
> To: "Blind Kid Mailing List,    \(for parents of blind children\)"
>    <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Summer training at Blind Industries and
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> What is the cost? Our state Division of Blind Services will not pay for 
> anything out of state, so we would have to find alternate funding.
>
> ?
> Debby
> bwbddl at yahoo.com
>
> ~"Kindness is a language which the deaf can hear and the blind can 
> read."~Mark Twain
>
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:08 AM
> Subject: [blindkid] Summer training at Blind Industries and Services of 
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> Attention listers,
>
> We are gearing up for a summer of fun and learning at Blind Industries and 
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> have an alternative funding source.
>
> For more information or to apply, please contact:
> Dezman Jackson at 410-737-2676, djackson at bism.org
> or Dan Wenzel at 410-737-2642, dwenzel at bism.org.
>
> The text is black in color set on a orange burst fading into a yellow 
> glow, with white cane & hand in the background.
>
> Independence Student 
> Application<https://www.formrouter.net/forms@BISM/StudentAppIndependence.html>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dezman Jackson MA, NOMC, NCLB
> BISM Youth Services
> Follow us: Facebook - Bism YouthPrograms
> Twitter @BISM_Youth
>
>
> Blind Industries and Services of Maryland
> 3345 Washington Blvd
> Baltimore, MD 21227
> Phone: 410-737-2676
> Mobile: 251-689-4623
> Fax: 410-737-2689
> Toll Free: 888-322-4567
> E-mail: djackson at bism.org<mailto:djackson at bism.org>
> BISM's purpose is to positively change people's attitudes about blindness
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 15:21:25 -0800
> From: "Bonnie Lucas" <lucas.bonnie at gmail.com>
> To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] blindkid Digest, Vol 97, Issue 13
> Message-ID: <4fb2e4fa.e6c9440a.755a.ffffcfea at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>
> We had a similar situation and for the first couple of months, I walked 
> home
> with my daughter and her sighted friend. I personally do not think that
> blindness is as big and issue as simply children being safe. If you would
> feel that your children are safe walking home were they both sighted, then
> you will want to feel that your blind child could also feel safe. If you
> walk with them for several weeks and make sure that your daughter is using
> good O&M techniques, then I would think that the two of them should be 
> able
> to walk home just fine.
> I'm guessing that you wouldn't even suggest they walk if the street was a
> particularly busy one, but that is definitely something to consider as 
> well.
> Summer would be a great time to practice. Also, if your sighted child 
> knows
> just what your blind child should be doing, she may be able to alert you, 
> if
> that wouldn't cause too much contention between them, if your blind child 
> is
> becoming lax. It would be good to make sure they get along well also 
> because
> one child may try to be the boss over the other and cause some real
> difficulties between them.
> Best of luck.
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: blindkid Digest, Vol 97, Issue 13
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 15:30:45 -0800
> From: "Bonnie Lucas" <lucas.bonnie at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Kid Mailing List,    \(for parents of blind children\)'"
>    <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] walking home from school.
> Message-ID: <4fb2e72b.6aea440a.1b35.ffffc67c at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>
> Personally, I wasn't given much opportunity, once I left the blind school,
> to walk independently and I have to really force myself to get going on a
> route. From personal experience, when I do a route over and over, the
> feeling of independence is great and I really feel in charge of my life.
> Abbie will feel so confident if she can walk to school on her own. Aubrie
> walks from high school and hat is a total cool thing for her. Hmm, it just
> occurred to me that she could talk about her experiences at our state
> convention because she has had a few!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arielle Silverman [mailto:arielle71 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:48 AM
> To: Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] walking home from school.
>
> I totally agree with Barbara. What kind of street will she need to cross 
> to
> get home?
> The best way for her to improve her street-crossing skills is through
> practice and the best way to get practice is to do the crossing every day!
> Speaking from the other side of the coin, because I am blind, I wasn't
> allowed to walk to or from the bus stop alone until I was 13--and the 
> street
> crossings I needed to do for this route were merely residential crossings. 
> I
> have always had trouble with street crossings and I believe if I had been
> expected to learn and use those skills earlier, I would have been a much
> better and safer traveler.
> Arielle
>
> On 5/15/12, Barbara Hammel <poetlori8 at msn.com> wrote:
>> If Abby's cane skills are good, practice street crossings over the
>> summer, even if it's just the streets on the school route.  If, when
>> school starts,
>>
>> you feel comfortable that she could do it alone if need be, then let
>> them walk.  If you had this plan when she could see, there is no
>> reason why you can't do it even though she is now blind.
>> The one thing in considering, here, is that you don't want her to
>> depend upon older sibling in case she has to go alone some time.
>> The time will be right when she can do it safely.  I have confidence
>> that you'll know when that is.
>> Barbara
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Poetry is an echo, asking a shadow to dance. -- Carl Sandburg
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Penny Duffy
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:30 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
>> Subject: [blindkid] walking home from school.
>>
>> Hello everyone.
>>
>> I am considering have my kids walk home from school next year without
>> me.Did I really just say that.  We are walking distance from the school.
>> They have walked the route often.  My kids who will be in 3rd grade
>> and 5th grade next year and would be walking home TOGETHER.  One of my
> kids are
>> blind and the other one is sighted.   I am really looking for some input.
>> I can't see why my daughter's blindness is that much of an  issue.
>> Should i wait till Abby's O&M street crossing skills are better?  When
>> Abby was in kindergarten (and sighted) I always thought that I would
>> let the kids walk home when they were win 5th and 3rd grade.
>>
>> I think it would be great for both my kids than again the kids may
>> reject the idea and the rules that come with it.
>>
>> --Penny
>> ----------
>> My Blog - visionfora.blogspot.com
>>
>> NH Parents of Blind Children http://www.nhpobc.org/
>> NHPOBC on facebook   https://www.facebook.com/nhpobc
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 19:21:57 -0500
> From: "Heather Field" <missheather at comcast.net>
> To: "Debby B" <bwbddl at yahoo.com>, "Blind Kid Mailing List,    \(for
>    parents of blind children\)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Summer training at Blind Industries and
>    Services of    Maryland
> Message-ID: <B9CE65E8D3724AE8BF66591606D033DA at HeatherAcer>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>
> Hello Debby,
> If you can make a case that this experience is "training" in blindness
> skills - which it certainly is - and that no similar, equivalent 
> experience
> is available in your state, then by law they are required to send people 
> out
> of state. It falls under something called "informed choice". Naturally, 
> the
> state rehab. people never tell you about these rights under the law 
> because
> they don't want to have to come up with extra money.
>
> Begin by writing down all the differences between any program that your
> state is offering. Then, note the things that the out-of-state program is
> offering that the in-state one does not. I would think things like:
> --all the instructors are blind and , therefore, provide competent,
> confident blind role models.
> --students will be involved in maintaining the apartment they will be
> sharing so they will be learning house-cleaning and other daily living
> nonvisual methods from the people who actually use them - blind people.
> --all orientation and mobility training will be based on the Structured
> Discovery Method; this means that a holistic approach to learning how to 
> be
> independent, oriented and safe is used, not just training someone to learn
> the route from this place to another and nothing more.
>
> I will attach a copy of the relevant portion of the law so that you can
> study it up and use it.
> You simply go to your state rehab. folks and let them know the reasons for
> your "informed Choice" reminding them about the provisions of the law. Be
> sure you have lots of reasons why the in-state program will not teach what
> you require.
> Please don't hesitate to contact me, or the BISM folks if you want some
> advice or assistance with this situation.
>
> Warmest regards,
> Heather Field
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Debby B
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:03 PM
> To: Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Summer training at Blind Industries and Services
> ofMaryland
>
> What is the cost? Our state Division of Blind Services will not pay for
> anything out of state, so we would have to find alternate funding.
>
>
> Debby
> bwbddl at yahoo.com
>
> ~"Kindness is a language which the deaf can hear and the blind can
> read."~Mark Twain
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dezman Jackson <djackson at BISM.org>
> To: "Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> (blindkid at nfbnet.org)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Dan Wenzel <dwenzel at BISM.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:08 AM
> Subject: [blindkid] Summer training at Blind Industries and Services of
> Maryland
>
> Attention listers,
>
> We are gearing up for a summer of fun and learning at Blind Industries and
> Services of Maryland's Independence 2012 summer Independence and 
> employment
> training program.  There are still openings for your high school students
> and we stand ready to serve.  Please find more information and a link to 
> our
> online application below.  For questions, please don't hesitate to contact
> myself or Dan Wenzel via the info that follows.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dezman Jackson MA, NOMC, NCLB
> BISM Youth Services
> Follow us: Facebook - Bism YouthPrograms
> Twitter @BISM_Youth
>
>
> Blind Industries and Services of Maryland
> 3345 Washington Blvd
> Baltimore, MD 21227
> Phone: 410-737-2676
> Mobile: 251-689-4623
> Fax: 410-737-2689
> Toll Free: 888-322-4567
> E-mail: djackson at bism.org<mailto:djackson at bism.org>
> BISM's purpose is to positively change people's attitudes about blindness
>
>
>
> [cid:image001.png at 01CD328B.1EA93120]
>
>
> BLIND INDUSTRIES & SERVICES OF MARYLAND
> Independence 2012 with BISM Compass logo
>
> June 17 - August 10
> For Blind and Low Vision High School Students
>
> What is Independence 2012?
> Independence 2012 is a 8-week residential training program that provides
> blind and low vision teens with the nonvisual skills and confidence to 
> help
> transition from high school to college and/or employment.
>
> *    Learn to travel independently using a long white cane
> *    Experience real-world career opportunities
> *    Two-week paid work experience
> *    Learn to read and write using Braille
> *    Develop computer skills through access technology
> *    Reside in campus apartments with blind instructors/mentors
> *    Expand cooking, cleaning, and shopping skills
> *    Develop a positive attitude about blindness
> *    Attend the 2012 NFB national convention in Dallas, Texas
> *    Tour Baltimore, Washington D.C., and New York, NY
> *    Participate in recreational and athletic activities
> *    New this year - Sailing!
>
> Who Can Apply?
> Legally blind high school students who are entering or are in high school 
> in
> the fall of 2012.
> Applicants should have an open case with their state's vocational
> rehabilitation agency or
> have an alternative funding source.
>
> For more information or to apply, please contact:
> Dezman Jackson at 410-737-2676, djackson at bism.org
> or Dan Wenzel at 410-737-2642, dwenzel at bism.org.
>
> The text is black in color set on a orange burst fading into a yellow 
> glow,
> with white cane & hand in the background.
>
> Independence Student
> Application<https://www.formrouter.net/forms@BISM/StudentAppIndependence.html>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dezman Jackson MA, NOMC, NCLB
> BISM Youth Services
> Follow us: Facebook - Bism YouthPrograms
> Twitter @BISM_Youth
>
>
> Blind Industries and Services of Maryland
> 3345 Washington Blvd
> Baltimore, MD 21227
> Phone: 410-737-2676
> Mobile: 251-689-4623
> Fax: 410-737-2689
> Toll Free: 888-322-4567
> E-mail: djackson at bism.org<mailto:djackson at bism.org>
> BISM's purpose is to positively change people's attitudes about blindness
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 13:19:07 +0000
> From: Dezman Jackson <djackson at BISM.org>
> To: Debby B <bwbddl at yahoo.com>, "Blind Kid Mailing List,    (for parents
>    of    blind children)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Dan Wenzel <dwenzel at BISM.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Summer training at Blind Industries and
>    Services    of    Maryland
> Message-ID:
>    <664916DD3FF58F45BF6F434E6676E7FB8697B4 at BLINDEXCHANGE.BISM.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Debby,
>
> In what state do you live?  We would be happy to help you explore options 
> for funding including navigating the state rehab.  Please get in contact 
> with Dan Wenzel or myself Via the info on the flyer.  We would be happy to 
> contact you as well if you would like.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dezman Jackson MA, NOMC, NCLB
> BISM Youth Services
> Follow us: Facebook - Bism YouthPrograms
> Twitter @BISM_Youth
>
>
> Blind Industries and Services of Maryland
> 3345 Washington Blvd
> Baltimore, MD 21227
> Phone: 410-737-2676
> Mobile: 251-689-4623
> Fax: 410-737-2689
> Toll Free: 888-322-4567
> E-mail: djackson at bism.org
> BISM's purpose is to positively change people's attitudes about blindness
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Debby B
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:04 PM
> To: Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Summer training at Blind Industries and Services 
> of Maryland
>
> What is the cost? Our state Division of Blind Services will not pay for 
> anything out of state, so we would have to find alternate funding.
>
> ?
> Debby
> bwbddl at yahoo.com
>
> ~"Kindness is a language which the deaf can hear and the blind can 
> read."~Mark Twain
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dezman Jackson <djackson at BISM.org>
> To: "Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children) 
> (blindkid at nfbnet.org)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Dan Wenzel <dwenzel at BISM.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:08 AM
> Subject: [blindkid] Summer training at Blind Industries and Services of 
> Maryland
>
> Attention listers,
>
> We are gearing up for a summer of fun and learning at Blind Industries and 
> Services of Maryland's Independence 2012 summer Independence and 
> employment training program.? There are still openings for your high 
> school students and we stand ready to serve.? Please find more information 
> and a link to our online application below.? For questions, please don't 
> hesitate to contact myself or Dan Wenzel via the info that follows.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dezman Jackson MA, NOMC, NCLB
> BISM Youth Services
> Follow us: Facebook - Bism YouthPrograms Twitter @BISM_Youth
>
>
> Blind Industries and Services of Maryland
> 3345 Washington Blvd
> Baltimore, MD 21227
> Phone: 410-737-2676
> Mobile: 251-689-4623
> Fax: 410-737-2689
> Toll Free: 888-322-4567
> E-mail: djackson at bism.org<mailto:djackson at bism.org>
> BISM's purpose is to positively change people's attitudes about blindness
>
>
>
> [cid:image001.png at 01CD328B.1EA93120]
>
>
> BLIND INDUSTRIES & SERVICES OF MARYLAND
> Independence 2012 with BISM Compass logo
>
> June 17 - August 10
> For Blind and Low Vision High School Students
>
> What is Independence 2012?
> Independence 2012 is a 8-week residential training program that provides 
> blind and low vision teens with the nonvisual skills and confidence to 
> help transition from high school to college and/or employment.
>
> *? ? Learn to travel independently using a long white cane
> *? ? Experience real-world career opportunities
> *? ? Two-week paid work experience
> *? ? Learn to read and write using Braille
> *? ? Develop computer skills through access technology
> *? ? Reside in campus apartments with blind instructors/mentors
> *? ? Expand cooking, cleaning, and shopping skills
> *? ? Develop a positive attitude about blindness
> *? ? Attend the 2012 NFB national convention in Dallas, Texas
> *? ? Tour Baltimore, Washington D.C., and New York, NY
> *? ? Participate in recreational and athletic activities
> *? ? New this year - Sailing!
>
> Who Can Apply?
> Legally blind high school students who are entering or are in high school 
> in the fall of 2012.
> Applicants should have an open case with their state's vocational 
> rehabilitation agency or have an alternative funding source.
>
> For more information or to apply, please contact:
> Dezman Jackson at 410-737-2676, djackson at bism.org or Dan Wenzel at 
> 410-737-2642, dwenzel at bism.org.
>
> The text is black in color set on a orange burst fading into a yellow 
> glow, with white cane & hand in the background.
>
> Independence Student 
> Application<https://www.formrouter.net/forms@BISM/StudentAppIndependence.html>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dezman Jackson MA, NOMC, NCLB
> BISM Youth Services
> Follow us: Facebook - Bism YouthPrograms Twitter @BISM_Youth
>
>
> Blind Industries and Services of Maryland
> 3345 Washington Blvd
> Baltimore, MD 21227
> Phone: 410-737-2676
> Mobile: 251-689-4623
> Fax: 410-737-2689
> Toll Free: 888-322-4567
> E-mail: djackson at bism.org<mailto:djackson at bism.org>
> BISM's purpose is to positively change people's attitudes about blindness
>
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 08:45:14 -0700
> From: "Dr. Denise M Robinson" <deniserob at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,    (for parents of blind children)"
>    <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindkid] teen lists
> Message-ID:
>    <CAAxsd_7Y7b_nwZ055Gqswn_TRSj6L9M34HLonRrC9rrfuwmwqg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I have forgotten the list email for teens ---can anyone help me?
> Thanks
>
> -- 
> *Denise*
>
> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> CEO, TechVision, LLC
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
> 509-674-1853
>
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with
> keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com
>
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
> doing it." --Chinese Proverb
>
> Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly
> slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond
> imagination.
> --Albert Einstein
>
> It's kind of fun to do the impossible.
> --Walt Disney
>
>
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