[blindkid] Excel-labeling everything in a graph with talking software

deniserob at gmail.com deniserob at gmail.com
Tue Oct 3 18:28:57 UTC 2017


Traci
Marianne raises a really good point. Mathxl is a Pearson product. Pearson has just begun the journey of making their products accessible....so be careful with anyone beginning the journey on accessibility

Saying that, excel from elementary is an easy program to learn. I say easy with this in mind--all programs are easy to learn if you have someone who can teach you the commands to do it. They are terrible and impossible if you get someone who does not know all the commands to teach IT ALL and your child will HATE that computer and all programs because they will start to believe the false statements of "blind people just can’t do that" --that is a lie.

My students go from basic math in lower elementary to advanced math--statistic, trig and beyond using excel. At its simplest, students do all their graphing in excel, line up problems to divide and multiple, etc--just like the sighted--I do not teach them formulas until they are in advanced math in HS--it is all their work. 

One tiny example I have heard too many times: I picked up a new student this year who is in 6th grade who only knew how to read braille--with one hand because her past TVI told her never to use her left hand, and she did most work verbally, so over summer heavy instruction on her apex and the computer and the programs with the computer. Now that school has started, she is doing graphing in 6th grade so I show her how to do graphing in excel and she said "I thought I would never be able to do graphing" and she has pretty much said this all along the last few months each time she learns a new concept. She is learning she CAN do all this --Because every adult in her background has told her  (minus her parents) "blind people can't do this" now my team and I are telling her the same thing as her parents--"yes, you can!"

One by one, the myths are dispelled. 

One thing I so want all parents to know--your child CAN DO ANYTHING and EVERYTHING at the same speed and efficiency as any other child with the right tools and make it even look better and greater using that computer with a braille display and talking software (braille graphics and nemeth under their fingers for science and math with work on computer--so they get the "visual" of what is going on as they output work on their computer with talking software and brl display). 

They just have to dream it, and have someone to teach them the commands on that computer and they CAN do it.

That was a long answer for--excel--hands down

Hope this helps

Denise M Robinson TVI, PhD

TechVision Team
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I am not Denise but I have a question. Is Math ML accessible with a screen reader? If not, then it really isn't an option. It would be the way I could get the math information in Braille but then I would need to find a way to solve the problems and get my work to the teacher without a middle person.

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Traci W via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
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> Denise,
>
> I'm curious if you see Excel or MathML as the most effective way for a 
> blind student to progress through her math studies.  My daughter is in 
> 7th and still on the perkins brailler, which has its merits, but I'm 
> wondering how you decide which path to take..
>
> Thank you!
> Traci Wilkerson
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> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Dr. Denise M Robinson via blindkid < 
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> > Here are the answers to how our low vision and blind students can do 
> > all math in excel and make beautiful graphs. Truly a braille display 
> > needs to be attached to reconfirm anything they hear and also the 
> > items they do
> not
> > hear. Many more Youtube videos on this at the TechVision channel:
> > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7YW7Ves0phCwCOtaZ3wWFw
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> > Here is the excel video: https://youtu.be/Gnm_WMrNaZ8
> >
> >
> > *Dr Denise M Robinson*
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> > Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD
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