[blindkid] If Math was never taught, can 22 yr old stay one extra year?

Amanda Nachtmann ajnachtmann21 at gmail.com
Tue Sep 12 17:29:23 UTC 2017


Get a lawyer or an advocate and file due process right now. You can get
compensatory up to a year through due process and more than that is a
 lawyer

On Sep 12, 2017 10:49 AM, "Dan Burke via blindkid" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> So here's what I know about college, based on nearly 20 years working at a
> university.
>
> First, math is a requirement of any two- or four-year degree.  No way out
> of it except in the case of a disability that directly affects math, such
> as dyscalculia.  And then, the options are not waivers, as is often
> mistakenly assumed, but a substitution.  What might work as an equivalent
> math-like substitution? Well, Economics, statistics, or one art student who
> did an in-depth paper/presentation of an artist who used geometric figures.
> It was nearly a master's thesis.  I worked with one student who found it
> much easier to complete a stats class than to complete the minimum math
> requirement.  This is accomplished through an appeals process at many
> institutions, involving an academic standards committee made up of mostly
> faculty in some cases. It often includes an unfortunate expectation that
> the student will not only provide clear documentation of the math
> disability, but also a demonstration of failure in college math courses.
>
> Blindness is not a disability that affects math, except in the poverty of
> one's educational opportunities to learn it.  There is no reasonable
> accommodation for this, it is viewed, rather, as a lack of qualifications.
>
> To even be eligible for the "reasonable accommodation" of a substitution,
> a student has to demonstrate that they are "otherwise qualified." This
> means that he or she meets all the other admission standards, including
> class rankings, GPA and college entrance exams, and they have to continue
> to demonstrate this with their grades in college.
>
> Community colleges obviously have easier entrance requirements, but they
> too have academic standards  regarding math for general education purposes.
>
> As mentioned in the previous e-mail on this thread, community and junior
> colleges are happy to offer any number of remedial classes leading up the
> minimum required math course.  None of them counts as math credit, only as
> general credits. It is costly in time and money because  it can extend a
> student's time in college. By the way, VR agencies are increasingly telling
> clients that they don't want to pay for remedial classes such as all the
> math classes mentioned.
>
> Yes, get a lawyer.
>
> Dan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> candice.attrill via blindkid
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:57 AM
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> Subject: Re: [blindkid] If Math was never taught, can 22 yr old stay one
> extra year?
>
> for the nemith for part of this I would definitely look into Hadley. One
> thing I will say is the community college that I attended made us all take
> a placer test before putting us in any math class. They also included mac
> 092, math 094, and math 098 before starting at the math 100 level. These
> were to cover in gaps from high school math. I do not know if your college
> offers such an option. I ended up starting at math 098. before going on to
> do math 104. I also agree that there should be some other pieces looked
> into how did that affect science for example?
> regards
> Candice
>
> > On Sep 10, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Tina Egle via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Dr. Robinson,
> >
> > My 21 year old totally blind son is in high school but as soon as he
> > turns
> > 22 on Dec 13, he will be out of high school system. He is currently
> > going to out of district vision program but they never taught him
> > Nameth code, no math skills. In order for him to even get an associate
> > degree from College, he needs basic Math and all college admission
> > require placement test for English reading, writing and Math so how is
> > he going to College with no basic knowledge of Math?
> >
> > Can we ask for extension? Is it possible?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Tina Egle Mother of Justin
> >
> > cell 847/577-7500
> >
> >
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