[blindlaw] Format Question
Leslie Fairall
fairall at shellworld.net
Tue Dec 9 22:11:47 UTC 2008
Being uneducated on specific disability issues is universal and crosses
party lines.
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, b75205 at gmail.com wrote:
> I tried that, they are just as clueless as the republicans.
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> On Dec 8, 2008 8:35pm, Mark BurningHawk <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> I wonder if another solution to this wouldn't be a top-down one: Contact
> President Elect Obama's administration and state the case that blind people
> could be put to work as Braillists for the SSA and other government entities.
> This project seems to me to parallel the infrastructure initiative that is
> the backbone, apparently, of Obama's economy boosting plan, and addressing
> the unemployment issue.
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Wayne" RWayne1 at nyc.rr.com>
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>> I would agree with John, but for one factor--some of these notices are
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>> time-sensitive. For instance, as I recall, if they terminate your
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>> you have 60 days to request reconsideration. However, in order to receive
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>> months or years. Many blind people on fixed incomes probably do not have
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>> When doing some other review of the Social Security Act, I noticed that
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>> Security Income receive from the agency. The provisions seem to permit
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>> the poor notice the agency provides. Right now the agency will not
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>> Actually the case is in court right now, it is the American Council for
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>> the Blind versus the Social Security Adminstration. Charles I suggested
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>> my format for the SSA forms but the lawyers did not want to get into
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>> that and they are going for daisy and audio format and other types of
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>> I think it is the Oregon Disability Rights group but it is being fought
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