[blindlaw] Fw:AccommodationandComplianceseries:TheADAAmendmentsAct of 2008

[Bryan Schulz]

hi,

come on bud, you really expect blind people to walk down the street or 
through a shopping mall shouting 'blind guy coming thru"?
lay off the peace pipe!
Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: 
[blindlaw]Fw:AccommodationandComplianceseries:TheADAAmendmentsAct of 2008


> Interesting; at bottom line, blind people are required to warn the public 
> of their presence.  Of course I know I'm being slightly stretchy here, but 
> shouldn't the goal be to eliminate this need?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John " <joramsey at cox.net>
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> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:29 PM
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>
>> Chuck,
>> Believe it or not, I have had several people fall over my cane because 
>> they
>> walk backward while chatting with friends and the like. I have no idea 
>> what
>> the liability would be if you were acting as the reasonable blind person
>> would act. However,  I can almost guarantee you that if you were 
>> practicing
>> some form of martial arts  navigation you are going to be liable if 
>> someone
>> is injured because you walked into them and the like.
>> Take care,
>> John
>>
>> John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq.
>>
>> Gainesville, FL 32609
>>
>> Phone: (352) 505-6642
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
>> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:56 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re:
>> [blindlaw]Fw:AccommodationandComplianceseries:TheADAAmendmentsAct of 2008
>>
>>
>> This is totally hypothetical but I have always wondered about the 
>> potential
>> liability if someone is injured when they trip and fall over my cane when
>> they are not paying attention. I realize its far-fetched but many law 
>> suits
>> are far-fetched.
>> Chuck
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "KEITH VICK " <keith-vick at msn.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List " <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; "Mark
>> BurningHawk" <stone_troll at sbcglobal.net>
>> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 8:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]
>> Fw:AccommodationandComplianceseries:TheADAAmendmentsAct of 2008
>>
>>
>>> Hi List Members, I believe that New York has a statute that disallows
>>> a
>>> claim of negligence based on failure to use a cane. This may be the case
>>> in other states. Also, as someone who has had the privilege of training 
>>> in
>>
>>> aikido and brazilian jiu jitsu I find the concept of martial arts 
>>> training
>>
>>> as a recognized adaptive method rather amusing and highly speculative.
>>> However, I do admit that the training has helped me adjust to my
>>> progressively worsening vision mostly because the arts trains one to 
>>> deal
>>> with unexpected movements against ones body - a rather common occurrence
>>> in the subways of New York city. Warmest regards, Keith Vick
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mark BurningHawk
>>> Sent: 1/4/2009 11:26:01 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]
>>> Fw:AccommodationandComplianceseries:TheADAAmendmentsAct of 2008
>>> I am not sure of a way in which a blind person using skills learned via 
>>> a
>>> certain type of training could injure another person.  I am a bit
>>> disturbed
>>> to hear that there's a different "reasonable standard," for persons and
>>> blind persons, but other than that, I think my original question has 
>>> been
>>> answered, and I really didn't mean to stir up any controversy over
>>> mobility
>>> methods.
>>>
>>>
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