From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Jul 1 12:53:48 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 06:53:48 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] for broad distribution, Presenting the 12TH Annual Mock Trial Message-ID: PRESENTING THE 12TH ANNUAL MOCK TRIAL NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS Saturday, July 4th Ambassador 1 Ballroom, level 3, Marriott Renaissance Center The National Association of Blind Lawyers is pleased to present the 12TH Annual Mock Trial featuring the case of Malus v. Malus in the District Court for the State of Federation, County of Whoseit, the Honorable Charles S. Brown, Presiding. This case pits a sighted father against a blind mother who are getting divorced and fighting over their three children. Randy Malus, the sighted father, alleges that the blind are incapable of safely taking care of young children. Angela Malus, the sighted mother, counter alleges that Randy is a dead beat dad who is incredibly irresponsible and that the children are far better off with her. Shockingly, Angela's own mother, Melissa Love Joy, intends to testify on behalf of Randy Malus. John Goodfellow, Angela's sighted neighbor, intends to tell the Court what a wonderful mom Angela is. Experts on both sides will tell the Court with whom the children should be placed. You the audience are the jury and will need to decide who is more competent to have custody of these three lovely children, ages 2, 4, and 7. All you have to do is pay your juror registration fee of $5.00 and you can help decide this important case. Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. President, NABL LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. From ahuffman6 at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 16:40:36 2009 From: ahuffman6 at gmail.com (F. Allen Huffman) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:40:36 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] possible internship or job opportunity Message-ID: <001a01c9fa6a$aff7cda0$110010ac@ALLEN> , my name is Franklin Allen Huffman. I am a recent totally blind college graduate in Orlando Florida. I am interested in pursuing law school and am looking to gain work experience or an internship in the legal field to see if that is what I want to do. Additionally,I am looking to talk with blind lawyers about their experiences . I am also looking in to possible study aids for the LSAT that might be accessible to jaws for windows which I use. I am wondering if anyone in your organization could assist me with any of these issues? If their is a person I should contact specifically and this is not the correct forum for making this enquiry please let me know and I apologize. I can be reached by phone at 407-782-0979 or email at ahuffman6 at gmail.com. Thanks so much and I would appreciate any assistance anyone can give. Respectfully Allen Huffman From pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 1 17:29:17 2009 From: pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net (Peter Donahue) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:29:17 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Mock Trial Recordings References: Message-ID: <01c201c9fa71$77ef26e0$4001a8c0@yourfsyly0jtwn> Good afternoon Scot and all, Mary and I have always wanted to attend one of these Mock Trials but tend to have other activities going on at the same time. Cutting the national convention short by one day has only made things worse. Has any thought been given to recording these Mock Trials and making them available for purchess from the division as an on-going fundraiser or perhaps posting them to the NABL Web Site? Maybe this idea could be discussed in your meeting during the convention. Just a suggestion. Peter Donahue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. LaBarre" To: "David Andrews" Cc: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: [blindlaw] for broad distribution,Presenting the 12TH Annual Mock Trial PRESENTING THE 12TH ANNUAL MOCK TRIAL NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS Saturday, July 4th Ambassador 1 Ballroom, level 3, Marriott Renaissance Center The National Association of Blind Lawyers is pleased to present the 12TH Annual Mock Trial featuring the case of Malus v. Malus in the District Court for the State of Federation, County of Whoseit, the Honorable Charles S. Brown, Presiding. This case pits a sighted father against a blind mother who are getting divorced and fighting over their three children. Randy Malus, the sighted father, alleges that the blind are incapable of safely taking care of young children. Angela Malus, the sighted mother, counter alleges that Randy is a dead beat dad who is incredibly irresponsible and that the children are far better off with her. Shockingly, Angela's own mother, Melissa Love Joy, intends to testify on behalf of Randy Malus. John Goodfellow, Angela's sighted neighbor, intends to tell the Court what a wonderful mom Angela is. Experts on both sides will tell the Court with whom the children should be placed. You the audience are the jury and will need to decide who is more competent to have custody of these three lovely children, ages 2, 4, and 7. All you have to do is pay your juror registration fee of $5.00 and you can help decide this important case. Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. President, NABL LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pdonahue1%40sbcglobal.net From dandrews at visi.com Wed Jul 1 19:37:03 2009 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:37:03 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] See and Win Orator for Blackberry Smartphones at NFB Convention Message-ID: Introducing Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones New screen reader software application provides blind and visually impaired customers with a solution to access BlackBerry smartphones With The National Federation of the Blind conference just around the corner, HumanWare is pleased to introduce its newest software solution called "Orator for BlackBerry for BlackBerry Smartphones" to the NFB members. Access to information through mobile devices is key in today's business world and the use of smartphones have become the predominant way of communication for business professionals and management. With over 21 million subscribers in 150 countries the BlackBerry Smartphones have grown in popularity to become the smartphone of choice to stay in touch with work, family and friends and important information while on the go. Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones is a innovative screen reader software that enables visually impaired users to access and operate BlackBerry Smartphones Issue from a joint collaboration with Code Factory, the leading provider of screen reader technology and maker of Mobile Speak, and Research In Motion (RIM), the maker of the award winning portfolio of BlackBerry products and solutions, Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones is design to convert the information visually display on the device screen into a voice output enabling people who are visually impaired to use BlackBerry smartphones to increase independence and productivity in today's competitive world. Available for the new QWERTY BlackBerry smartphones, Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones will provide you with greater freedom to manage your daily activities in the way that is most convenient for you with the ability to stay connected anytime, anywhere. If you are attending the National Federation of the Blind conference come visit us at the HumanWare booth to be amongst the first to get your hands on a personal demonstration and have a sneak peak at this coming solution for BlackBerry smartphones. Whether you are attending the conference or not don't miss the chance to win one of 4 BlackBerry smartphones with Orator software package. To register your name you must log on at www.orator4bb.com\draw and fill out the form. This will automatically enter your name in the draw. Winners will be announced on the HumanWare site on July 31 If you are interested in learning more on the Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones solution and find out why BlackBerry devices are so popular, be sure to attend the product presentation. Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones: blind access solution for BlackBerry Smartphones When: Friday July 3rd, 2009 Time: 4h00 to 4h50 PM Where: LaSalle A and B Room, Level 5 Speakers: Michel Pepin, Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones Product Manager, HumanWare From this session you will learn the features and benefits of this screen reader solution and find out more on the BlackBerry device applications that will be supported For those of you that will not be available to attend this presentation, be sure to visit us in the exhibit hall at the HumanWare booth during the following exhibit hours: Saturday July 4th, 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Sunday July 5th, 8:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Monday July 6th, 12:00 p.m. to 1:45 p.m. Tuesday July 7th, 12:00 p.m. to 1:45 p.m. and 7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. Come and discover if Orator for BlackBerry Smartphone is the solution for you to stay connected with what is important in your life. Visit our web site at www.orator4 bb.com to find out more about this unique mobile solution About HumanWare HumanWare (http://www.humanware.com/) is the global leader in assistive technologies for the print disabled. HumanWare provides products to people who are blind and have low vision and students with learning disabilities. HumanWare offers a collection of innovative products include BrailleNote, the leading productivity device for the blind in education, business and for personal use; the Victor Reader product line, the world's leading digital audiobook players, and SmartView Xtend, the first fully modular and upgradeable CCTV-based video magnifier. David Andrews and white cane Harry. From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Jul 1 19:47:04 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:47:04 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Agenda, 2009 Annual Meeting of NABL, attached and pasted into message Message-ID: AGENDA NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS 2009 ANNUAL MEETING --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sunday, July 5, 2009 Richard A Room, Level 5 MARRIOTT RENAISSANCE CENTER DETROIT, MICHIGAN 1:00 p.m. WELCOME, INTRODUCTORY REMARKS, AND VARIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS Scott C. LaBarre Esq., President, NABL, Denver, Colorado. 1:10 p.m. PRACTICING BEFORE THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION OFFICE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS: How to Get It Done Best Noel Nightingale Esq., Attorney, U.S. Department of Education Office for Civil Rights, Seattle, Washington 1:55 p.m. THE EEOC AND THE ADA AMENDMENTS ACT DEBORAH M. BARNO, Supervisory Trial Attorney, Detroit Field Office, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Detroit, Michigan 2:40 p.m. PRACTICING BEFORE THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES: What You Need to Know Ronza Othman, Esq., Policy Advisor, U.S. Department of Homeland Security Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, Washington, DC 3:10 p.m. THE FIRST BLIND U.S. SUPREME COURT LAW CLERK Isaac J. Lidsky, Esq., Law clerk to the Honorable Justice Sandra Day O'Connor and the Honorable Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Washington, DC 3:45 p.m. ACCESS TO PRINTED WORKS ELECTRONICALLY OR OTHERWISE: The Conflict Between Copyright and Access Rights Mehgan Sidhu, Esq., Associate, Brown, Goldstein, and Levy, Baltimore, Maryland; Scott C. LaBarre, Esq., LaBarre Law Offices P.C., Denver, Colorado 4:40 p.m. BUSINESS SESSION: CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, ELECTIONS, AND VARIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS 5:00 p.m. Adjourn to reception 5:00 to 6:30 p.m. NABL RECEPTION (ticketed event) Join us for cocktails and hors d'oeuvres as we celebrate the progress of our organization. Network and meet your fellow blind attorneys and legal professionals. Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. 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LaBarre" To: "David Andrews" Date: Wednesday, Jul 1, 2009 10:08:01 Subject: [bllaw] for broad distribution, Presenting the 12;TH Annual Mock Trial > > > PRESENTING THE 12;TH ANNUAL MOCK TRIAL > NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS > Saturday, July 4th > Ambassador 1 Ballroom, level 3, > Marriott Renaissance Center > > The National Association of Blind Lawyers is pleased to present the 12;TH Annual Mock Trial featuring the case of Malus very. Malus in the District Court for the State of Federation, County of Whoseit, the Honorable Charles S. Brown, Presiding. This case pits a sighted father against a blind mother who are getting divorced and fighting over their three children. Randy Malus, the sighted father, alleges that the blind are incapable of safely taking care of young children. Angela Malus, the sighted mother, counter alleges that Randy is a dead beat dad who is incredibly irresponsible and that the children are far better off with her. Shockingly, Angela's own mother, Melissa Love Joy, intends to testify on behalf of Randy Malus. John Goodfellow, Angela's sighted neighbor, intends to tell the Court what a wonderful mom Angela is. Experts on both sides will tell the Court with whom the children should be placed. You the audience are the jury and will need to decide who is more competent to have custody of these three lovely children, ages 2, 4, and 7. All you have to do is pay your juror registration fee of $54..00 and you can help decide this important case. > Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. > President, NABLIND > LaBarre Law Offices P.C. > 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 > Denver, Colorado 80222 > 303 504-5979 (voice) > 303 757-3640 (fax) > slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) > www.labarrelaw.com (website) > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic > Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. so's' 2510-2521. > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for bllaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Jul 2 10:32:39 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:32:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Presenting the 12TH Annual Mock Trial Message-ID: PRESENTING THE 12TH ANNUAL MOCK TRIAL NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS Saturday, July 4th Ambassador 1 Ballroom, level 3, Marriott Renaissance Center 4:30--6:00 p.m. The National Association of Blind Lawyers is pleased to present the 12TH Annual Mock Trial featuring the case of Malus v. Malus in the District Court for the State of Federation, County of Whoseit, the Honorable Charles S. Brown, Presiding. This case pits a sighted father against a blind mother who are getting divorced and fighting over their three children. Randy Malus, the sighted father, alleges that the blind are incapable of safely taking care of young children. Angela Malus, the sighted mother, counter alleges that Randy is a dead beat dad who is incredibly irresponsible and that the children are far better off with her. Shockingly, Angela's own mother, Melissa Love Joy, intends to testify on behalf of Randy Malus. John Goodfellow, Angela's sighted neighbor, intends to tell the Court what a wonderful mom Angela is. Experts on both sides will tell the Court with whom the children should be placed. You the audience are the jury and will need to decide who is more competent to have custody of these three lovely children, ages 2, 4, and 7. All you have to do is pay your juror registration fee of $5.00 and you can help decide this important case. Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. President, NABL LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) From LPovinelli at aol.com Thu Jul 2 10:35:12 2009 From: LPovinelli at aol.com (by way of David Andrews ) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:35:12 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Our own 2009 NFB tenBroek Scholarship Winner reports on NPR's Marketplace Message-ID: U.S. Supreme Court building Ruling may change campaign finance The Supreme Court issued formal opinions for all but one case this term. The decision on that case could have big implications for how election campaigns are financed. Corbb O'Connor reports. ---------- It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4206 (20090701) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From roddj12 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 2 18:20:58 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:20:58 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Never knew this case existed References: Message-ID: I found this in my bar review prep. "It is firmly established that solicitation of funds for charitable or political causes is speech protected by the First Amendment. [Riley v. National Federation of the Blind of North Carolina, Inc., 487 U.S. 781 (1988)." Good way to remember the rule. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. LaBarre (by way of David Andrews)" To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 6:32 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Presenting the 12TH Annual Mock Trial > PRESENTING THE 12TH ANNUAL MOCK TRIAL > NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS > Saturday, July 4th > Ambassador 1 Ballroom, level 3, > Marriott Renaissance Center > 4:30--6:00 p.m. > > The National Association of Blind Lawyers is pleased to present the 12TH > Annual Mock Trial featuring the case of Malus v. Malus in the District > Court for the State of Federation, County of Whoseit, the Honorable > Charles S. Brown, Presiding. This case pits a sighted father against a > blind mother who are getting divorced and fighting over their three > children. Randy Malus, the sighted father, alleges that the blind are > incapable of safely taking care of young children. Angela Malus, the > sighted mother, counter alleges that Randy is a dead beat dad who is > incredibly irresponsible and that the children are far better off with > her. Shockingly, Angela's own mother, Melissa Love Joy, intends to > testify on behalf of Randy Malus. John Goodfellow, Angela's sighted > neighbor, intends to tell the Court what a wonderful mom Angela is. > Experts on both sides will tell the Court with whom the children should be > placed. You the audience are the jury and will need to decide who is more > competent to have custody of these three lovely children, ages 2, 4, and > 7. All you have to do is pay your juror registration fee of $5.00 and you > can help decide this important case. > Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. > President, NABL > LaBarre Law Offices P.C. > 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 > Denver, Colorado 80222 > 303 504-5979 (voice) > 303 757-3640 (fax) > slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) > www.labarrelaw.com (website) > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From rjs059 at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 3 02:41:45 2009 From: rjs059 at peoplepc.com (rjs059 at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:41:45 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Opinion Message-ID: Here's a case concerning a medical doctor in my state. Tell me what you think. Remember this is about the arguments of the parties. RJ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From dandrews at visi.com Mon Jul 6 16:39:02 2009 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:39:02 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Updated Link for NFB Convention Stream Message-ID: Earlier today I posted a link to listen/watch a live stream of the NFB convention, now going on in Detroit. The link used an embedded Silverlight player that may not be accessible to all. Below is a new link that uses your default media player. We apologize for any problems that this has caused anybody. http://vbricksys.edgeboss.net/wmedia-live/vbricksys/58969/300_vbricksys-nfb_30241_090615.asx Dave David Andrews and white cane Harry. From keith-vick at msn.com Mon Jul 6 20:30:27 2009 From: keith-vick at msn.com (Keith Vick) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:30:27 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: Hi, I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list have any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability to ADA - Employment. Thanks, Keith Vick From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Tue Jul 7 01:02:30 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:02:30 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: <628ED07B993C405AA56E92AD8BED5E74@StevePC> Can you give us a cite on the case? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.5/2220 - Release Date: 07/05/09 17:54:00 From keith-vick at msn.com Tue Jul 7 01:41:19 2009 From: keith-vick at msn.com (Keith Vick) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:41:19 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: <628ED07B993C405AA56E92AD8BED5E74@StevePC> References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> <628ED07B993C405AA56E92AD8BED5E74@StevePC> Message-ID: Recent decision. No cite. I thought the ADA law community would already be somewhat versed in it by now. http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/08pdf/08-441.pdf -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:03 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA Can you give us a cite on the case? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40in sightbb.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.5/2220 - Release Date: 07/05/09 17:54:00 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%40msn.c om From keith-vick at msn.com Tue Jul 7 14:28:47 2009 From: keith-vick at msn.com (Keith Vick) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:28:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> <628ED07B993C405AA56E92AD8BED5E74@StevePC> Message-ID: Well, I haven't heard from anyone as yet. In essence, my concern is the reasoning in the decision could be applied to disability discrimination cases. That is, reading 'because of' as meaning 'but for' could be applied by district courts (probably splitting circuits) in disability cases even though Gross was about age discrimination. This may sound like semantics but apparently the differences are meaningful. Attorneys in employment discrimination appear to be saying that interpretation makes it nearly impossible to prove (absent something similar to 'I am firing you because you are old') age discrimination. From what I am reading, it sounds like the employer could even say something like 'yes, age plays a role in moving you to this demeaning job, but the move is more about your computer skills' and not be violating Title VII under Gross because the move to the demeaning job was not 'but for' the employee's age - it was also motivated by the employee's lack of computer skills. It seems to me that the implications of this reasoning for the disabled are pretty harsh. When I did research last night in the language in Title VII a couple of nights ago (it was late so maybe I was seeing things) I saw the same 'because of' language. Thus, Gross could be applied to disability discrimination cases. I believe that Congress is considering amending Title VII - Age Discrimination in Employment to change 'because of' to 'motivated by' and probably will as the AARP is a very powerful lobby. I am going to contact my Congresspersons and ask them to consider doing so for the disability portion of Title VII (if they weren't already). As pat of the amendments I plan on asking them to include 'Congressional intent' language that says a 'but for' was never intended to be the test in disability discrimination cases. Just a thought... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keith Vick Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:41 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA Recent decision. No cite. I thought the ADA law community would already be somewhat versed in it by now. http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/08pdf/08-441.pdf -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:03 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA Can you give us a cite on the case? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40in sightbb.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.5/2220 - Release Date: 07/05/09 17:54:00 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%40msn.c om _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%40msn.c om From angie.matney at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 15:10:43 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:10:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> <628ED07B993C405AA56E92AD8BED5E74@StevePC> Message-ID: <4a536572.c5c2f10a.24b0.ffffcec9@mx.google.com> You might get more responses when people return from convention. From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com Tue Jul 7 16:51:03 2009 From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:51:03 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: <32AA12BD940742DCB982281760EBBE67@RThomas> There is at least one case that I am aware of that is pending right now in which a Federal District Court will have to come to terms with that issue. I am working on an article on this subject right now. However, my prediction is that the decision in Gross will apply to the ADA. I will spell out my reasoning for this opinion in my article. Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. THOMAS & ASSOCIATES www.employersattorneys.com Orange County Office 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 Beverly Hills Office 9107 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 450 Beverly Hills, California 90210 T: (310) 461-3561 -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keith Vick Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:30 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA Hi, I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list have any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability to ADA - Employment. Thanks, Keith Vick _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo ..com From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Tue Jul 7 20:44:43 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:44:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: <32AA12BD940742DCB982281760EBBE67@RThomas> References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> <32AA12BD940742DCB982281760EBBE67@RThomas> Message-ID: <0E16B52474F74D17BF8D7BA4B4492A04@StevePC> Please post your article on this site when it is complete. Thanks, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell J. Thomas, Jr" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > There is at least one case that I am aware of that is pending right now in > which a Federal District Court will have to come to terms with that issue. > > I am working on an article on this subject right now. However, my > prediction > is that the decision in Gross will apply to the ADA. > > I will spell out my reasoning for this opinion in my article. > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > THOMAS & ASSOCIATES > > www.employersattorneys.com > > > > Orange County Office > > 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 > > Newport Beach, California 92660 > > T: (949) 752-0101 > > F: (949) 257-4756 > > M: (949) 466-7238 > > > > Beverly Hills Office > > 9107 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 450 > > Beverly Hills, California 90210 > > T: (310) 461-3561 > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Keith Vick > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:30 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo > ..com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.7/2222 - Release Date: 07/07/09 05:53:00 From roddj12 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 8 18:26:47 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:26:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about purchasing them. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From jsorozco at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 19:32:43 2009 From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:32:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5C044E63D798409E80AD5065B687B35E@Rufus> I have a Dell Latitude E4300. It's small and more importantly, durable. Because it's their business class of laptops, it'll set you back a few more hundred dollars than your regular line, but it's money well spent. Joe "A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the crowd."--Max Lucado -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:27 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about purchasing them. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj1 2%40hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jsoroz co%40gmail.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4224 (20090708) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4225 (20090708) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4225 (20090708) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From jackchenonline at hotmail.com Wed Jul 8 19:34:50 2009 From: jackchenonline at hotmail.com (Jack Chen) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:34:50 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: Rod I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability. I took the NY and NJ bars with one. If you do decide to get one, I recommend asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops. Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to > take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot > it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing > running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick > recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't > remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for > all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones > are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! > > I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about > purchasing them. > > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Vick" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >> have >> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >> applicability >> to ADA - Employment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com > From angie.matney at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 20:07:48 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:07:48 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: <4a54fc92.0a1ad00a.7387.4c20@mx.google.com> Hi Rod, I am very happy wit hmy Asus EeePC 1000HE. I think the newer EeePC models probably have the best keyboards of netbooks out there, but I'm only going on descriptions. I used mine to take my finals last semester. The keyboard is smaller than standard and might take a little getting used to. The battery life is phenomenal. Good luck, Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:27 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about purchasing them. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma il.com From rfarber at jw.com Wed Jul 8 20:19:53 2009 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:19:53 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: <8EA167BDF4483449B67BBE3BFCB648F10BC03BEE@pdc-mail01.jwllp.com> For laptops I like Dell. It may be a little more expensive, but I know it works. There are several models. I usually call a Dell sales rep and build a model. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:27 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about purchasing them. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotm ail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.c om From bspiry at comcast.net Thu Jul 9 00:01:12 2009 From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:01:12 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: <7BA303C7E11E410989CD132281205861@fred> I've also had good luck with Lenovo think pad, I've got an X200, small and light *(little over 3 pounds), great battery life (with my 9 cell it gives me about 10 hours) and full sized laptop keyboard and function. Not a notebook I use it well with JAWS 10. . -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack Chen Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:35 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar Rod I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability. I took the NY and NJ bars with one. If you do decide to get one, I recommend asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops. Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to > take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot > it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing > running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick > recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't > remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for > all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones > are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! > > I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about > purchasing them. > > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Vick" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >> have >> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >> applicability >> to ADA - Employment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40h otmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n et From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 04:49:48 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB ) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 23:49:48 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind Paralegal Message-ID: <018c01ca0119$e12048c0$a360da40$@com> Hello group! I am a new member to the mailing list. I was very excited to come across you guys in the google search I did. I have been a paralegal for eight years and lost my sight about a year and a half ago. I have found it very hard to find employment in the legal field. I'm in the process of wanting to freelance but have no idea as to how to get this started. I live in Houston, Texas. Do any of you have ideas to suggest? I've worked in the areas of social security disability, ERISA, HIPAA, labor and employment, civil litigation, products liability, contracts, business formation, etc. Thanks ahead for any help. William From rfarber at jw.com Fri Jul 10 12:38:59 2009 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:38:59 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind Paralegal In-Reply-To: <018c01ca0119$e12048c0$a360da40$@com> References: <018c01ca0119$e12048c0$a360da40$@com> Message-ID: <8EA167BDF4483449B67BBE3BFCB648F10BC73C8A@pdc-mail01.jwllp.com> William - Please contact me off list at 713-752-4241. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of WB Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:50 PM To: BlindLaw Subject: [blindlaw] Blind Paralegal Hello group! I am a new member to the mailing list. I was very excited to come across you guys in the google search I did. I have been a paralegal for eight years and lost my sight about a year and a half ago. I have found it very hard to find employment in the legal field. I'm in the process of wanting to freelance but have no idea as to how to get this started. I live in Houston, Texas. Do any of you have ideas to suggest? I've worked in the areas of social security disability, ERISA, HIPAA, labor and employment, civil litigation, products liability, contracts, business formation, etc. Thanks ahead for any help. William _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.c om From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Jul 10 15:00:13 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:00:13 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Job Posting: Senior Contract Officer/Grant Officer with Millennium Water Alliance - Ref#19789366 Message-ID: JOB OPPORTUNITY -- Senior Contract/Grant Officer We wish to recruit a Senior Contract/Grant Officer to serve as a contact person and principal advisor to the MWA staff for compliance issues related to public and private sector funding. Position is offered on a contractual consultancy basis and will be part time; approximately 200-250 hours a year. Office space is to be provided by the applicant. Please indicate compensation expectations. Key responsibilities include: 1. Advise management and oversee compliance for various types of financial assistance awards, cooperative agreement, grants, sub grants, memorandums of understanding, etc. 2. Advise and recommend regarding, and coordinate and/or negotiate, new awards, amendments or modifications with various donor agencies, including compliance reviews. 3. Advise and recommend input and technical support during concept paper and proposal development and submission processes. 4. Advise, develop and implement various policies, procedures and systems to help comply with governmental policies, procedures, regulations and statutes, including micro-credit loan programs. 5. Draft appropriate legal agreements for awards, etc. 6. Advise and coordinate with other personnel within the organization to ensure adherence to donor requirements. 7. Develop and maintain relationships with various donor personnel so as to be as effective as possible and to keep apprised of policy and regulatory changes. 8. Oversee management of legal files. 9. Mentor and/or provide compliance training to staff. Five years direct experience with contract/grants agreements and compliance with USAID preferably with an international NGO. Please provide resume or CV, three references and indicate compensation rates. Contact: Alvin Tans, Treasurer, Alvin.Tans at mwawater.org, 803-547-6541 From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 03:38:51 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB ) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:38:51 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal in Houston, Texas Message-ID: <023d01ca01d9$22444170$66ccc450$@com> Hello All! I am a blind paralegal in Houston, Texas. I am currently in the process of beginning to freelance. I have been a paralegal since 2001 in small and large firms in the Houston metro area. I have extensive experience in the following areas: 1. Social Security Disability; 2. Civil Litigation (from client interview to trial); 3. ERISA; 4. HIPAA; 5. Products Liability; 6. Contracts; and 7. Business Formation If you or anyone you know of would like to receive services, please have them contact me via email at mruniverse08 at gmail.com. I am also open to suggestions and full time employment. Thanks! William From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Jul 13 15:27:39 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:27:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Lawsuit challenges policy that lets some grads skip bar exam, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, July 12, 1009 Message-ID: Not blindness-related, but I thought some on this list might find this article of interest given discussions about problems with taking bar exams in some states. Link: http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/50497957.html Text: Lawsuit challenges policy that lets some grads skip bar exam By Erica Perez of the Journal Sentinel July 12, 2009 A federal appeals court has revived a class-action lawsuit that challenges Wisconsin's diploma privilege, a one-of-a-kind policy that allows graduates of the state's law schools to practice law here without taking the bar exam. U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Richard A. Posner's decision raised several questions about the state practice - causing Wisconsin law schools to prepare evidence as the case goes forward. The plaintiffs, graduates of Oklahoma City University School of Law, argued the policy violates the commerce clause of the Constitution by discriminating against graduates of out-of-state law schools. They said the state should extend the diploma privilege to graduates of these schools. Their suit named the Wisconsin Board of Bar Examiners and the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Graduates of accredited law schools in states other than Wisconsin who would like to practice law here have to either pass the Wisconsin bar exam or have practiced law for five years in another state. The case initially was dismissed in 2007 by U.S. District Judge John C. Shabaz, who said the diploma privilege does not discriminate because everyone who did not graduate from a Wisconsin law school has to take the bar - state residents and non-residents alike. But the appeals court on Thursday ruled the case was dismissed prematurely and should be sent back to district court so that plaintiffs can try to prove their case. Posner said it's possible Marquette University and University of Wisconsin law schools offer no more training on Wisconsin law than do schools in other states. If that's true, Posner wrote, the diploma privilege creates an arbitrary distinction between graduates of the Wisconsin schools and other schools. He wrote that such a division could burden interstate commerce by affecting aspiring lawyers' decisions about where to study. Posner also noted that the state's bar exam does not test takers' knowledge of Wisconsin law solely; the exam includes two multi-state tests. The plaintiffs' attorney, Christopher Wiesmueller, said the court's decision made him hopeful that, at the very least, the bar exam might be cut back significantly for out-of-state law graduates. "I would be more than happy to settle for a reduced and more frequent version of the bar exam," he said. "As much as 75% of the test doesn't test Wisconsin law anyway." Under current rules, applicants who fail the exam have to wait several months before they can take it again. State native filed suit Wiesmueller, a Milwaukee native, originally filed suit as a student at Oklahoma City University School of Law. While the matter was on appeal, Wiesmueller passed the Wisconsin bar exam. The appeals court ruled in 2008 that Shabaz should have certified the case as a class-action lawsuit. Once the district court made the case a class-action, it went back before the court of appeals with two new plaintiffs who had not yet passed the bar exam at the time - Wiesmueller's wife, Corinne, and a friend, Heather Devan. Christopher Wiesmueller is concerned about the hardship that out-of-state law school graduates have to endure to practice law in Wisconsin. After graduation, Wiesmueller paid thousands of dollars for a bar exam preparation class, spent months studying and had to get a part-time job to support himself until he landed a job with a firm in November. He is not trying to end the diploma privilege, he said. "I would hope they wouldn't impose a bar exam on everybody, because then we're right back at square one," he said UW Law School Dean Kenneth Davis said the school is putting together a systematic determination of whether Wisconsin law makes up a greater part of the curriculum at UW than it does in other states. While most classes are not designated as addressing Wisconsin law, it's common practice among UW faculty to teach students how Wisconsin law differs from other states, Davis said. "By and large, to teach general legal principles is to teach Wisconsin law," he said. "There are areas where Wisconsin takes a unique approach, and...I think the practice of most faculty is to say, 'Here's the general rule, but here's the way Wisconsin treats it.'" Marquette University Law School Dean Joseph Kearney wrote on his blog Thursday that he believes the privilege will pass constitutional muster. "Marquette Law School has sought to ensure - because of the diploma privilege - that our students are especially introduced to the law and legal profession of Wisconsin," he wrote. Kevin St. John, a spokesman for the state Department of Justice, which is defending the lawsuit, said the agency plans to gather documentation to show that the 140-year-old diploma privilege is appropriate and lawful. "We certainly remain confident that Wisconsin's laws will be upheld," he said. "The Wisconsin system does not run afoul of any non-discrimination provisions of the Constitution." From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Jul 13 15:35:14 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:35:14 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Diversity Summit lays groundwork for agenda, ABA Journal, July 2009 Message-ID: Link: http://www.abanet.org/poladv/wl/09jul/#no6 Text: Diversity Summit lays groundwork for agenda More than 200 lawyers, judges and academics joined ABA President H. Thomas Wells Jr. June 18-20 at a summit he convened in National Harbor, Maryland, to discuss the next steps that must be taken to achieve greater diversity in the legal profession. The kickoff keynote speaker, Kareem Dale, special assistant to President Obama, cited a wide range of appointees at the White House and in various government positions as evidence of a renewed commitment to enforcement of rights for all people, regardless of race, ethnicity, religion or other factors. Rep. G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.), the dinner speaker June 19, described his childhood in North Carolina when all judges and most prosecutors and jurors were white and courtroom observers sat in sections separated by race. Even though much progress has been made, he said there has never been a female district court or superior court judge in his district. "It is a terrible mistake to make public policy without diverse viewpoints. Viewpoint diversity advances democracy," he emphasized. Wells convened the summit to reenergize the legal profession's diversity efforts, including expansion of outreach to persons with disabilities and persons of varying sexual orientation and gender identities as part of a campaign for a more representative bar. He pledged that the association will compile the ideas generated at the summit into an agenda for enhancing diversity in the legal profession. Picture caption: Major participants at "Diversity in the Legal Profession: The Next Steps?" included (from left): Planning Committee Co-Chair The Honorable James A. Wynn Jr., Court of Appeals, Raleigh, North Carolina; ABA President H. Thomas Wells Jr.; Rep. G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.); and Planning Committee Co-Chair Eduardo Roberto Rodriguez of Rodriguez Colvin Chaney & Saenz LLP, Brownsville, Texas. From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Jul 13 23:21:05 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:21:05 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [mamas_jobs] FW: Job Opportunity for Industrial Appeals Judge 3 - Ref#19880961 Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Vanderford-Anderson [mailto:vanderford at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:07 PM To: MAMAS Mother Attorneys Mentoring Assoc. of Seattle Job Postings Subject: [mamas_jobs] FW: Job Opportunity for Industrial Appeals Judge 3 - Ref#19880961 Lisa Vanderford-Anderson posted: Good afternoon: Our state agency, The Board of Industrial Insurance Appeals, is searching for qualified candidates to fill our Industrial Appeals Judge positions. I have attached the job announcement and the required Training and Education Questionnaire. We also invite you to visit our website at http://www.biia.wa.gov to learn more about our agency. 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Such posting and/or dissemination is not an endorsement by the Department of the organization or group disseminating and/or posting the information. -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Jul 14 21:41:12 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:41:12 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jack: I was disappointed to hear about your experiences with Vista and JAWS as I am about to be "upgraded" to Vista. Any chance your experience is isolated or are you aware of others with the same bad experiences? Noel -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack Chen Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:35 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar Rod I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability. I took the NY and NJ bars with one. If you do decide to get one, I recommend asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops. Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to > take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot > it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing > running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick > recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't > remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for > all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones > are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! > > I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about > purchasing them. > > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Vick" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >> have >> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >> applicability >> to ADA - Employment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From jackchenonline at hotmail.com Tue Jul 14 21:55:24 2009 From: jackchenonline at hotmail.com (Jack Chen) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:55:24 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar References: Message-ID: Oh gosh, don't do it if you can help it. If you have to, make sure you have Jaws 10. XP is far far far more stable with Jaws. Others might tell you otherwise, but I am more of a power user and demand more from my machines. I only have Vista on the Thinkpad laptop; all of the rest of the machines are XP or Mac OS. If you need specifics, let me know. jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nightingale, Noel" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > Jack: > > I was disappointed to hear about your experiences with Vista and JAWS as I > am about to be "upgraded" to Vista. Any chance your experience is > isolated or are you aware of others with the same bad experiences? > > Noel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Jack Chen > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:35 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > > Rod > > I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability. I took > the NY and NJ bars with one. If you do decide to get one, I recommend > asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been > pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my > license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). > > One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for > typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops. > Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard > though. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > > >> My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to >> take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot >> it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this >> thing >> running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick >> recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't >> remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for >> all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones >> are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! >> >> I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about >> purchasing them. >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, J.D. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Keith Vick" >> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM >> Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >>> have >>> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >>> applicability >>> to ADA - Employment. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Keith Vick >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com > From johnrsheehan at yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 01:42:09 2009 From: johnrsheehan at yahoo.com (John Sheehan) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <167185.40101.qm@web53806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> At the recent NB convention, there was a lot of talk about Jaws - the consensus was XP or WIndows 7, which was getting very good reviews. If you can avoid Vista, for a whole host of reasons of which Jaws compatibility is only one, most folk I know would say avoid it and either stay with XP or jump to Windows 7.   Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ Residence: 53 E 83rd St New York, NY 10028 Room Phone: 212 606-3420 Cell: 646 853-1820 Blog: www.frjohnsj.blogspot.com Office: Xavier Society for the Blind 154 E. 23rd St NYC 10010 212 473-7800, ext 119 Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by searching the Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! Free for you - and money for us! Thank you. ________________________________ From: "Nightingale, Noel" To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:41:12 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar Jack: I was disappointed to hear about your experiences with Vista and JAWS as I am about to be "upgraded" to Vista.  Any chance your experience is isolated or are you aware of others with the same bad experiences? Noel -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack Chen Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:35 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar Rod I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability.  I took the NY and NJ bars with one.  If you do decide to get one, I recommend asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops.  Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to > take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot > it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing > running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick > recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't > remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for > all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones > are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! > > I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about > purchasing them. > > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Vick" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >> have >> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >> applicability >> to ADA - Employment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/johnrsheehan%40yahoo.com From roddj12 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 15 02:00:26 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:00:26 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar References: Message-ID: Thanks, Jack. I actually got an Hp mini netbook. The keyboard layout is 90 percent the same as the one I am currently using on my hp laptop. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Chen" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > Oh gosh, don't do it if you can help it. If you have to, make sure you > have Jaws 10. XP is far far far more stable with Jaws. Others might tell > you otherwise, but I am more of a power user and demand more from my > machines. I only have Vista on the Thinkpad laptop; all of the rest of the > machines are XP or Mac OS. If you need specifics, let me know. > > jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:41 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > > >> Jack: >> >> I was disappointed to hear about your experiences with Vista and JAWS as >> I am about to be "upgraded" to Vista. Any chance your experience is >> isolated or are you aware of others with the same bad experiences? >> >> Noel >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Jack Chen >> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:35 PM >> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar >> >> Rod >> >> I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability. I took >> the NY and NJ bars with one. If you do decide to get one, I recommend >> asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been >> pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my >> license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). >> >> One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for >> typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops. >> Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard >> though. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rod Alcidonis" >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM >> Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar >> >> >>> My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it >>> to >>> take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble >>> shoot >>> it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this >>> thing >>> running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick >>> recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't >>> remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance >>> for >>> all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small >>> ones >>> are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! >>> >>> I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about >>> purchasing them. >>> >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, J.D. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Keith Vick" >>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >>>> have >>>> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >>>> applicability >>>> to ADA - Employment. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Keith Vick >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 02:27:59 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB ) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:27:59 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Message-ID: <001201ca04f3$e36b8940$aa429bc0$@com> Greetings All! I've found the emails that I've been receiving from this group to be very informative and fruitful. I'm glad I joined the group. I am currently seeking work as a full time or freelance paralegal. I reside in Houston, Texas. I've attached my resume in case you or anyone you know could use some assistance. Please feel free to contact me. Thanks! William -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: William Burley Resume.1.doc Type: application/msword Size: 41472 bytes Desc: not available URL: From angie.matney at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 02:57:10 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:57:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: <167185.40101.qm@web53806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <167185.40101.qm@web53806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4a5d4588.02015a0a.64e2.ffffadcf@mx.google.com> I think this is true. When the IT guy at my law school saw my netbook, he said, "That's one way to avoid Vista!" Blind people are not the only ones who want to get around it. Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John Sheehan Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:42 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar At the recent NB convention, there was a lot of talk about Jaws - the consensus was XP or WIndows 7, which was getting very good reviews. If you can avoid Vista, for a whole host of reasons of which Jaws compatibility is only one, most folk I know would say avoid it and either stay with XP or jump to Windows 7.   Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ Residence: 53 E 83rd St New York, NY 10028 Room Phone: 212 606-3420 Cell: 646 853-1820 Blog: www.frjohnsj.blogspot.com Office: Xavier Society for the Blind 154 E. 23rd St NYC 10010 212 473-7800, ext 119 Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by searching the Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! Free for you - and money for us! Thank you. ________________________________ From: "Nightingale, Noel" To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:41:12 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar Jack: I was disappointed to hear about your experiences with Vista and JAWS as I am about to be "upgraded" to Vista.  Any chance your experience is isolated or are you aware of others with the same bad experiences? Noel -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack Chen Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:35 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar Rod I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability.  I took the NY and NJ bars with one.  If you do decide to get one, I recommend asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops.  Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to > take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot > it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing > running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick > recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't > remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for > all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones > are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! > > I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about > purchasing them. > > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Vick" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >> have >> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >> applicability >> to ADA - Employment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40h otmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 0ed.gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/johnrsheehan%40yah oo.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma il.com From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 15 16:16:18 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:16:18 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind Paralegal In-Reply-To: <018c01ca0119$e12048c0$a360da40$@com> References: <018c01ca0119$e12048c0$a360da40$@com> Message-ID: <1E9CD16CC5C0479C8DD73CE23B02AF44@spike> I am a blind free lance paralegal in California. Becoming a paralegal was a career change after being a social worker for about 25 years. The important part of freelancing is networking in all possible areas. You might want to contact me off list for additional details and discussion. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "WB " To: "BlindLaw" Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:49 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Blind Paralegal > Hello group! I am a new member to the mailing list. I was very excited > to > come across you guys in the google search I did. > > > > I have been a paralegal for eight years and lost my sight about a year and > a > half ago. I have found it very hard to find employment in the legal > field. > I'm in the process of wanting to freelance but have no idea as to how to > get > this started. I live in Houston, Texas. > > > > Do any of you have ideas to suggest? > > > > I've worked in the areas of social security disability, ERISA, HIPAA, > labor > and employment, civil litigation, products liability, contracts, business > formation, etc. > > > > Thanks ahead for any help. > > > > William > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From msnunez at stanford.edu Wed Jul 15 18:20:25 2009 From: msnunez at stanford.edu (Michael S. Nunez) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:20:25 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Invitation to National Association of Law Students wtih Disabilities Annual Keynote Dinner Message-ID: <2a6649930907151120y1515a010kb4309e947623e0c0@mail.gmail.com> Dear NFB Blind Lawyers, You are cordially invited to the National Association of Law Students with Disabilities’ (NALSWD’s) third annual keynote dinner in Crystal City, Virginia. NALSWD is a coalition of law students dedicated to disability advocacy and the achievement of equal access, inclusion, diversity, and non-discrimination in legal education and the legal profession. NALSWD was formed to facilitate a sustained community for law students with disabilities to seek support and professional advice as they navigate law school and the legal profession. This year, we have the privilege and honor to welcome Christine M. Griffin, Vice Chair of the Equal Employment Opportunity commission (EEOC) to deliver our keynote address. NALSWD’s keynote dinner will be held at 7 PM on Saturday, August 8. Our dinner is an excellent opportunity to network with others who are interested in disability rights and cultivating a more diverse bar. We hope you will join us as we strive to build partnerships and alliances within the disability community and legal profession. Ms. Griffin is highly accomplished. She has worked extensively in labor and employment law positions in both government and the private sector. Most recently, she held the position of Commissioner at the EEOC from 2006 to 2009, where she launched the Leadership for the Employment of Americans with Disabilities (LEAD) initiative to contend with the substantial underemployment of people with disabilities in the federal government. Prior to that, she served as the Executive Director of the Disability Law Center in Boston from 1996 to 2005 and as an Attorney Advisor to the former Vice Chair of the EEOC, Paul M. Igasaki, from 1995 to 1996, advising him on legal matters and policy issues. Ms. Griffin has also served on many boards and task forces, including the national Social Security Administration Ticket to Work Advisory Panel, the Massachusetts Developmental Disabilities Council and the Massachusetts Board of Higher Education. As a nonprofit student organization, NALSWD has limited funding and must carefully manage its budget. As such, we would be unable to fund this event without an admission fee. Tickets to dinner are $65 per person. We will also be accepting donations at the door. If you decide to attend, please RSVP to Michael Nunez at NALSWD.confdirector at gmail.com by Friday July 24, and direct a check payable to the “American Bar Association” with “NALSWD dinner” written on the memo line to: Janice Ta 3404 Liberty Street Austin, TX 78705 NALSWD will also accept payment via check at the door. We look forward to seeing you at this special occasion. 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From JFreeh at nfb.org Thu Jul 23 08:42:39 2009 From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh, Jessica) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:42:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind and Blind Business Owner File Complaint with Small Business Administration Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Chris Danielsen Director of Public Relations National Federation of the Blind (410) 659-9314, extension 2330 (410) 262-1281 (Cell) cdanielsen at nfb.org National Federation of the Blind and Blind Business Owner File Complaint with Small Business Administration SBA's Inaccessible Web Site Discriminates Against the Blind Baltimore, Maryland (July 22, 2009): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's oldest and largest organization of blind people and the leading advocate for equal access by the blind to information technology, and Virgil Stinnett, a blind business owner from Honolulu, Hawaii, filed an administrative complaint today with the Small Business Administration (SBA). The complaint asserts that the SBA's Web site violates Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act because it is inaccessible to blind people who use text-to-speech screen access technology or Braille displays to access information on the Internet. Because of the inaccessibility of the SBA Web site, blind people cannot fill out forms on the site or take online courses offered by the SBA. Mr. Stinnett was unable to apply for certification under Section 8(a) of the Small Business Act because of the inaccessibility of the Web site. Section 8(a) certification would provide Mr. Stinnett's business with access to federal and private procurement markets. Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: "Blind Americans have the same dreams, the same goals, and the same entrepreneurial spirit as all other Americans. If we are to have equal access to the tools and techniques needed to be effective business owners and to compete on terms of equality with our sighted peers, we must have equal access to the resources offered on the SBA Web site and other government sites. The National Federation of the Blind demands equality for blind business owners and will tolerate nothing less." Virgil Stinnett, owner of Good News HI, a business providing military dining services, said: "As a blind entrepreneur, access to the SBA Web site is critical in order for me to use its programs and services and expand my business. The fact that I could not access the Web site has cost me time and resources that I would not have needed to expend if I had been able to use the site like everyone else. I hope the action we are taking today will prompt the SBA to take immediate steps so that all Americans, blind and sighted, have equal access to the programs, training, and resources that it provides." Complainants are represented by attorneys Daniel F. Goldstein and Allison L. Harper of Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP, 120 E. Baltimore Street, Suite 1700, Baltimore, MD 21202, (410) 962-1030, fax: (410) 385-0869, dfg at browngold.com, ah at browngold.com, www.browngold.com. ### From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Jul 23 14:30:25 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:30:25 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] for broad distribution Message-ID: <1498D081271340779156AFA8F10AAF7C@labarre> Greetings: We are very interested in talking to anyone who is blind/visually impaired and interested in pursuing a Doctor of Chiropractic degree from Palmer College of Chiropractic. We are also interested in talking to any blind/visually impaired employees who either work directly for or through a contractor to provide switchboard/communication services for the Veterans Administration. Finally, we are interested in speaking with anyone, blind/visually impaired, who is planning on attending law school, is currently an undergrad, and who plans on taking the LSAT either this fall or in the next year. Please contact me at the below information. Thanks, Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri Jul 24 03:24:38 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:24:38 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Looking for People Message-ID: Greetings: We are very interested in talking to anyone who is blind/visually impaired and interested in pursuing a Doctor of Chiropractic degree from Palmer College of Chiropractic. We are also interested in talking to any blind/visually impaired employees who either work directly for or through a contractor to provide switchboard/communication services for the Veterans Administration. Finally, we are interested in speaking with anyone, blind/visually impaired, who is planning on attending law school, is currently an undergrad, and who plans on taking the LSAT either this fall or in the next year. Please contact me at the below information. Thanks, Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri Jul 24 15:54:28 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:54:28 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Fw: NASA Presents Coins Flown in Space to National Federation of the Blind Message-ID: See the below release from NASA. For broad distribution. Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. ----- Original Message ----- From: "NASA News" To: "NASA News" Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:10 AM Subject: NASA Presents Coins Flown in Space to National Federation of the Blind > July 24, 2009 > > Stephanie Schierholz > Headquarters, Washington > 202-358-4997 > stephanie.schierholz at nasa.gov > > Chris Danielsen > National Federation of the Blind, Baltimore > 410-659-9314, ext. 2330 > cdanielsen at nfb.org > > MEDIA ADVISORY: M09-140 > > NASA PRESENTS COINS FLOWN IN SPACE TO NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND > > WASHINGTON -- During a ceremony July 31, senior NASA officials will > present the National Federation of the Blind with two Louis Braille > Bicentennial Silver Dollars that flew on space shuttle Atlantis's > mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in May 2009. Marc Maurer, > president of the National Federation of the Blind, will accept the > coins on behalf of the organization. The ceremony will take place at > 6 p.m. EDT at the Capitol Visitor Center in Washington. > > In celebration of the 200th anniversary of Louis Braille's birthday, > Congress authorized the minting of the 2009 Louis Braille > Bicentennial Silver Dollar. NASA flew one proof and one uncirculated > commemorative coin on the recent Hubble servicing mission. The coins > are the first to feature tactile, readable Braille, which enables the > blind to read and learn, just as Hubble allows people to learn about > the universe. > > NASA astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will speak at the celebratory > closing of the National Federation of the Blind's 2009 Youth Slam. At > the Youth Slam, 200 blind high school students from across the nation > will participate in five days of activities to help encourage the > blind youth of America to consider careers in science, technology, > engineering and mathematics. > > Reporters planning on attending the event must contact Chris Danielsen > at 410-659-9314, ext. 2330, or cdanielsen at nfb.org by 5 p.m. on July > 30. > > NASA and the National Federation of the Blind have been collaborating > for more than five years to inspire and engage blind students to lend > their unique talents to disciplines critical to the nation's > engineering, scientific and technical missions. > > NASA Television will broadcast a Video File of the event. For NASA TV > streaming video, schedules and downlink information, visit: > > > > http://www.nasa.gov/ntv > > > For more information about NASA's education programs, visit: > > > > http://www.nasa.gov/education > > > For more information about the Hubble Space Telescope, visit: > > > > http://www.nasa.gov/hubble > > > For more information about the National Federation of the Blind, > visit: > > > > http://www.nfb.org > > > -end- > > > > To subscribe to the list, send a message to: > hqnews-subscribe at mediaservices.nasa.gov > To remove your address from the list, send a message to: > hqnews-unsubscribe at mediaservices.nasa.gov > From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Jul 24 20:05:10 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:05:10 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: fw: 2010 Post Graduate Fellowships [1 Attachment] - Ref#20068101 Message-ID: For 2010 law school graduates ________________________________ From: Washington_MBAs at yahoogroups.com [mailto:Washington_MBAs at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicole McGrath Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:20 AM To: WA MBA listserv Subject: [Washington_MBAs] Fwd: fw: 2010 Post Graduate Fellowships [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Nicole McGrath included below] Dear MBA leader gurus, Please get the word out to your third-year law students that those with an interest in juvenile law or child advocacy work are encouraged to apply! They are also welcome to contact me for more information. Thanks! Nicole ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Nicole McGrath Date: Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:09 AM Subject: fw: 2010 Post Graduate Fellowships To: nicolemcgrath1 at gmail.com Nicole McGrath, Staff Attorney TeamChild 2731 Wetmore Ave., Suite 410 Everett, WA 98201 Phone: 425.258.3132 Fax: 425.259.2906 Email: nicole.mcgrath at teamchild.org ________________________________ From: "Jeannie Nist" Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:47 PM To: "Anne Lee" , "Andy Benjamin" , "Ann Carey" , "Beth Colgan" , "Carol Webster" , "Christie Hedman" , "Jeff Rounce" , "Julio Quan" , "Katie Steltor" , "Ken Odza" , "Sally Pritchard" , "Ted Greenblatt" , "Wendy Jacobson" , allmailusers at teamchild.org Subject: 2010 Post Graduate Fellowships Hi TeamChild, We are looking for law school students who are interested in applying for 2010 post graduate fellowships with us. Attached is the posting that we are distributing widely. Please feel free to share with anyone you think will be interested. Thanks! Jeannie Nist Staff Attorney 715 Tacoma Ave. S. Tacoma, WA 98402 (253) 274-0889 (direct) (253) 274-9929 (main) (253) 274-1888 (fax) www.teamchild.org NOTICE: This electronic communication and any attachments may contain privileged or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by email reply and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments without copying, transmitting or disclosing the contents. Thank you. From b75205 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 04:36:21 2009 From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:36:21 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind and Blind Business Owner File Complaint with Small Business Administration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK a cursory look at their forms and yes I can fix these. Who should I contact to solve this problem? I can make them work with free screen readers so the blind do not have to buy JAWS or Window Eyes to fill out the forms and I can do this in any language. I received a response from the Elections Assistance Commission (EAC) which was directed to my Congressman for my accessible voter registration form which was tested by AFB Tech to be accessible in JAWS, Window Eyes and free screen readers. Anne Taylor at the Jernigan Institute at the National Federation of the Blind has also tested my forms. The EAC claimed that they have an expert advisor with the AAPD who approved of their forms but this same person personally presented my forms to the EAC in October. So they are relying on his reputation but they don't take his advice! Also the EAC claims it is accessible on their website because they use the Plone system, which is an open-source database. Also, they pointed out that they were given a mandate by Congress to make voting accessible to the blind in 2003 to create their agency. The letter really didn't say much of anything about whether they would do anything about fixing the problem; they are going to stick with their forms. It seems to me to be a letter to tell the congressman that they have done all they can and that is that. In 2006 the EAC certified to Congress that the states were accessible to the blind in voter registration forms and they released billions of dollars to the states for the elections. The National Form was an image of a form until mid September 2008, 3 weeks after I sent them my forms. They did a bad job; there is content that is not accessible in the form and it is clear that they didn't test it with JAWS because the problems are obvious. They claimed in the letter that they had a volunteer test it with JAWS and that the form is as accessible as possible. So which is it, are the forms as accessible as possible or are they certified to be accessible to the blind in 2006 which released billions of dollars to the states? This letter was sent to a US Congressman in response to this inquiry. The EAC is run by the election officers of each state. The EAC concentrated their effort on election day, on voting machines and not on voter registration forms. But if you are not registered to vote you cannot use the accessible voting machines! Their form requires the blind to use the full version of JAWS to fill it out. Not all of the content is accessible and it requires the blind to draw a map of where they live and both of these requirements are literacy tests! Also you must buy JAWS to fill it out; that is a Poll Tax. Also they put alt text in two images which is a direct violation of section 508 regulations of the Rehabilitation Act. The font is small and that is a direct violation of the Help America Vote Act which created the EAC. And the form for South Carolina requires the applicant to state their race and if they do not do so the form will not be processed. That is a direct violation of the Voting Rights Act. The proper way to handle this is to make it voluntary, every other state makes it voluntary but not South Carolina. I made the Voter Registration form accessible because the laws for voting are far more extensive and affects states in terrible ways if they deny people the right to vote compared to ordinary accessibility law. You have all the advantages of the Voting Rights Act which enables the Integration laws of the Civil Rights Act, which has serious repercussions for the states, especially the 14th Amendment Section 2 which removes electors from the states when they deny a portion of their population the right to vote. There is a procedure and the US District Court in DC has to create a panel of Judges to hear these cases, with a direct appeal to the US Supreme Court. And they were required to be accessible in voter registration in 1973, so its been 36 years of non compliance. So I was wondering would a civil rights case on Voting Rights force the issue of compliance to ADA faster than fighting the SBA? Wouldn't it be far more comprehensive to enable accessibility across this nation, especially when you consider the consequences of the Voting Rights Act which directly threatens the sovereignty of each States, its Electors (members of Congress) and federal funding. The same laws put into effect to limit the sovereignty of the southern states after the civil war in Reconstruction! And of course the public can get behind the idea that the blind deserve access to voter registration, that they do not need literacy tests and poll taxes to register to vote. Having to buy the full version of JAWS to fill out a voter registration form is a Poll Tax! I contacted all the states, the elections officers in each state during the 2008 election trying to get them to be accessible. The State of Washington responded by claiming that they were not required to make voter registration accessible to the blind. So who should I contact to fix these problems? Sincerely. James G. Pepper From rumpole at roadrunner.com Sat Jul 25 17:30:50 2009 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:30:50 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind and Blind BusinessOwner File Complaint with Small Business Administration References: Message-ID: Hello Jim: Could you please contact me off list? My email is: rumpole at roadrunner.com I'd like to call youfor a short conversation. Ross A. Doerr ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Pepper" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind and Blind BusinessOwner File Complaint with Small Business Administration > OK a cursory look at their forms and yes I can fix these. Who should I > contact to solve this problem? I can make them work with free screen > readers so the blind do not have to buy JAWS or Window Eyes to fill out > the > forms and I can do this in any language. > > I received a response from the Elections Assistance Commission (EAC) which > was directed to my Congressman for my accessible voter registration form > which was tested by AFB Tech to be accessible in JAWS, Window Eyes and > free > screen readers. Anne Taylor at the Jernigan Institute at the National > Federation of the Blind has also tested my forms. The EAC claimed that > they > have an expert advisor with the AAPD who approved of their forms but this > same person personally presented my forms to the EAC in October. So they > are relying on his reputation but they don't take his advice! > > Also the EAC claims it is accessible on their website because they use the > Plone system, which is an open-source database. Also, they pointed out > that > they were given a mandate by Congress to make voting accessible to the > blind > in 2003 to create their agency. The letter really didn't say much of > anything about whether they would do anything about fixing the problem; > they > are going to stick with their forms. It seems to me to be a letter to tell > the congressman that they have done all they can and that is that. > > In 2006 the EAC certified to Congress that the states were accessible to > the > blind in voter registration forms > and they released billions of dollars to the states for the elections. > The > National Form was an image of a form until mid September 2008, 3 weeks > after > I sent them my forms. They did a bad job; there is content that is not > accessible in the form and it is clear that they didn't test it with JAWS > because the problems are obvious. They claimed in the letter that they > had > a volunteer test it with JAWS and that the form is as accessible as > possible. > > So which is it, are the forms as accessible as possible or are they > certified to be accessible to the blind in 2006 which released billions of > dollars to the states? This letter was sent to a US Congressman in > response > to this inquiry. The EAC is run by the election officers of each state. > The > EAC concentrated their effort on election day, on voting machines and not > on > voter registration forms. But if you are not registered to vote you cannot > use the accessible voting machines! > > Their form requires the blind to use the full version of JAWS to fill it > out. Not all of the content is accessible and it requires the blind to > draw > a map of where they live and both of these requirements are literacy > tests! Also you must buy JAWS to fill it out; that is a Poll Tax. > > Also they put alt text in two images which is a direct violation of > section > 508 regulations of the Rehabilitation Act. The font is small and that is > a > direct violation of the Help America Vote Act which created the EAC. And > the form for South Carolina requires the applicant to state their race and > if they do not do so the form will not be processed. That is a direct > violation of the Voting Rights Act. The proper way to handle this is to > make it voluntary, every other state makes it voluntary but not South > Carolina. > > I made the Voter Registration form accessible because the laws for voting > are far more extensive and affects states in terrible ways if they deny > people the right to vote compared to ordinary accessibility law. You have > all the advantages of the Voting Rights Act which enables the Integration > laws of the Civil Rights Act, which has serious repercussions for the > states, especially the 14th Amendment Section 2 which removes electors > from > the states when they deny a portion of their population the right to > vote. There is a procedure and the US District Court in DC has to create a > panel of Judges to hear these cases, with a direct appeal to the US > Supreme > Court. And they were required to be accessible in voter registration in > 1973, so its been 36 years of non compliance. > > So I was wondering would a civil rights case on Voting Rights force the > issue of compliance to ADA faster than fighting the SBA? Wouldn't it be > far > more comprehensive to enable accessibility across this nation, especially > when you consider the consequences of the Voting Rights Act which directly > threatens the sovereignty of each States, its Electors (members of > Congress) and federal funding. The same laws put into effect to limit the > sovereignty of the southern states after the civil war in Reconstruction! > > And of course the public can get behind the idea that the blind deserve > access to voter registration, that they do not need literacy tests and > poll > taxes to register to vote. Having to buy the full version of JAWS to fill > out a voter registration form is a Poll Tax! > > I contacted all the states, the elections officers in each state during > the > 2008 election trying to get them to be accessible. The State of > Washington > responded by claiming that they were not required to make voter > registration > accessible to the blind. > > So who should I contact to fix these problems? > > Sincerely. > > James G. Pepper > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com From mruniverse30 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 23:42:18 2009 From: mruniverse30 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:42:18 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Houston Freelance Paralegal Message-ID: <422c01ca0d81$8f429c50$adc7d4f0$@com> I hope everybody is having a great and relaxing weekend. I just wanted to let you all know that I am a paralegal with nine years of experience that is a freelancer. If you or anyone you should know of need assistance, please feel free to email me for more information. Thanks and take care! William From womankind at earthlink.net Mon Jul 27 02:45:44 2009 From: womankind at earthlink.net (Stephanie Ortoleva) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:45:44 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] mentoring event at the U.S. Department of State In-Reply-To: <014e01c8b50f$8982b280$0200000a@labarre> References: <014e01c8b50f$8982b280$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: Dear Law Student, I am an employee at the Department of State, who happens to be blind, and I represent the leadership of a recently-formed employee affinity group, the Disability Action Group (DAG). Among others, my colleague, Somer Bessire-Briers, works with me on DAG matters and represents the Special Emphasis Program for Individuals with Disabilities in the Office of Civil Rights (S/OCR). I work for the Chief Information Officer (CIO) in the Information Resource Management (IRM) Bureau. We are making plans for what we hope will be an informative and interesting Disability Employment Awareness Month (DEAM) program at the Department of State on Wednesday, October 21, 2009. We are soliciting up to four law students with targeted disabilities who would be very interested and who can commit by 8/6/2009 to participating in an all-day event at the Department. Four to eight undergraduate or graduate students with targeted disabilities are expected to participate as well. As you can well imagine, we will need a committed group of roughly twelve student participants in total and then plenty of time to match them with twelve Department professionals and to plan program events and to make all the necessary preparations. Without a sufficient number of committed participants and sufficient planning/preparation time, we will have to cancel this event and perhaps try in the future. If for some other reason(s) we have to cancel this event, we will inform you soon after we know. One purpose of this day’s event is to provide an opportunity for student participants to network with Department professionals with and without disabilities and to learn about the Department’s history, and mission, about careers in the Civil Service or Foreign Service, and about intern and other hiring/recruitment programs at the Department. However, this event is not intended as a job fair and that we are not committing to extending any job offers to participants specifically prior to, during, nor immediately after this event. All participants must be U.S. citizens, full-time undergraduate or graduate/law students with at least a 3.0 G.P.A. on a 4.0 scale, and have a targeted disability. All participants will need to arrange and pay for their own transportation to and from the Department. However, lunch is expected to be provided to student participants. While the Department's mission is one of foreign affairs, the Department's workforce consists of thousands of employees in either the Civil Service (CS) or in the Foreign Service (FS), and these employees’ educations and professions vary widely. Accordingly, student participants who are interested in or pursuing any of a variety of studies or professions are welcome, including but not limited to the following: Business Management, Economics, Finance, Human Resource Management, Information Technology/Computer Science, International Affairs/Relations, Law, Physics, Political Science, Psychology, Public Affairs, Public Diplomacy, Social Work. More information should be available off of http://careers.state.gov. Tentative Agenda 8:15-3:45 8:15-8:45 – Arrive at the Department of State Diplomatic Entrance at 2201 C Street NW and Meet Department employees who will greet student participants and escort them to the first meeting place. 9-10:15 – Intros, Brief Presentation on Department's History and Mission, & Internships/Possible Careers Briefing (covering CS and FS). 10:30-noon – Shadow Department employee partner Whilst she/he performs job-related task(s). 12:15-1 – Lunch (Perhaps video teleconference (VTC) given by senior FS employee with disability from Post.) 1:15-3:00 – Briefings from at least members of Human Resources (HR), Information Resource Management (IRM), the Secretary's Office of Civil Rights (S/OCR), and the Disability Action Group (DAG) regarding Department Programs/Services for employees with disabilities. 3:15-3:45 – Wrap-up, feedback/program evaluation, goodbyes, escorts Notes 1. As needed, we will plan on/schedule intermittent five-minute or so breaks. 2. Officials at the highest level of the Department will be invited to but not guaranteed to make a guest appearance. 3. Student participants will need to be escorted throughout the day, as all visitors without Department security clearance are required to be. 4. Any special needs (e.g., medical, dietary, or service-animal related) and requests for reasonable accommodation will need to be communicated clearly and well in advanced. We will do our best to provide reading material in an accessible electronic format; we may not have the time/resources to provide Braille versions. please provide a CV or resume and a brief -- no more than one-page -- explanation of why you are interested in participating in this event. All materials need to be e-mailed in an accessible electronic format (e.g., accessible HTML, MS Word, RTF, TXT). Please do not e-mail social security numbers, but include full name and contact information. Please e-mail your materials to schaferpp at state.gov] by August 6, 2009. Somer and I (at least) will make our decisions and e-mail or call each selected participant by late August. If at all possible, we are hoping to select two impressive men and two impressive women law students. Please e-mail or call me or Somer with any questions. Thanks, and Live well! ---Paul & Somer ******************* Paul P. Schafer, DAG Council Administrator (Chair) Information Resource Management (IRM) Bureau U.S. Department of State, SA3 2121 Virginia Avenue N.W., RM 4148 Washington, D. C. 20037 Voice: 202.663.0223 (ext. 30223) E-mail: schaferpp at state.gov Somer Bessire-Briers Office of Civil Rights Special Emphasis Program Individuals with Disabilities 202-647-2321 (ph) From stephanie_enyart at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 03:22:43 2009 From: stephanie_enyart at yahoo.com (Stephanie Enyart) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:22:43 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] mentoring event at the U.S. Department of State Message-ID: <5BFC0B9C5B754E23948E9DAECC747F06@DF5R2QD1> Please share with your networks, Stephanie ***** Dear Law Student, I am an employee at the Department of State, who happens to be blind, and I represent the leadership of a recently-formed employee affinity group, the Disability Action Group (DAG). Among others, my colleague, Somer Bessire-Briers, works with me on DAG matters and represents the Special Emphasis Program for Individuals with Disabilities in the Office of Civil Rights (S/OCR). I work for the Chief Information Officer (CIO) in the Information Resource Management (IRM) Bureau. We are making plans for what we hope will be an informative and interesting Disability Employment Awareness Month (DEAM) program at the Department of State on Wednesday, October 21, 2009. We are soliciting up to four law students with targeted disabilities who would be very interested and who can commit by 8/6/2009 to participating in an all-day event at the Department. Four to eight undergraduate or graduate students with targeted disabilities are expected to participate as well. As you can well imagine, we will need a committed group of roughly twelve student participants in total and then plenty of time to match them with twelve Department professionals and to plan program events and to make all the necessary preparations. Without a sufficient number of committed participants and sufficient planning/preparation time, we will have to cancel this event and perhaps try in the future. If for some other reason(s) we have to cancel this event, we will inform you soon after we know. One purpose of this day's event is to provide an opportunity for student participants to network with Department professionals with and without disabilities and to learn about the Department's history, and mission, about careers in the Civil Service or Foreign Service, and about intern and other hiring/recruitment programs at the Department. However, this event is not intended as a job fair and that we are not committing to extending any job offers to participants specifically prior to, during, nor immediately after this event. All participants must be U.S. citizens, full-time undergraduate or graduate/law students with at least a 3.0 G.P.A. on a 4.0 scale, and have a targeted disability. All participants will need to arrange and pay for their own transportation to and from the Department. However, lunch is expected to be provided to student participants. While the Department's mission is one of foreign affairs, the Department's workforce consists of thousands of employees in either the Civil Service (CS) or in the Foreign Service (FS), and these employees' educations and professions vary widely. Accordingly, student participants who are interested in or pursuing any of a variety of studies or professions are welcome, including but not limited to the following: Business Management, Economics, Finance, Human Resource Management, Information Technology/Computer Science, International Affairs/Relations, Law, Physics, Political Science, Psychology, Public Affairs, Public Diplomacy, Social Work. More information should be available off of http://careers.state.gov. Tentative Agenda 8:15-3:45 8:15-8:45 - Arrive at the Department of State Diplomatic Entrance at 2201 C Street NW and Meet Department employees who will greet student participants and escort them to the first meeting place. 9-10:15 - Intros, Brief Presentation on Department's History and Mission, & Internships/Possible Careers Briefing (covering CS and FS). 10:30-noon - Shadow Department employee partner Whilst she/he performs job-related task(s). 12:15-1 - Lunch (Perhaps video teleconference (VTC) given by senior FS employee with disability from Post.) 1:15-3:00 - Briefings from at least members of Human Resources (HR), Information Resource Management (IRM), the Secretary's Office of Civil Rights (S/OCR), and the Disability Action Group (DAG) regarding Department Programs/Services for employees with disabilities. 3:15-3:45 - Wrap-up, feedback/program evaluation, goodbyes, escorts. Notes 1. As needed, we will plan on/schedule intermittent five-minute or so breaks. 2. Officials at the highest level of the Department will be invited to but not guaranteed to make a guest appearance. 3. Student participants will need to be escorted throughout the day, as all visitors without Department security clearance are required to be. 4. Any special needs (e.g., medical, dietary, or service-animal related) and requests for reasonable accommodation will need to be communicated clearly and well in advanced. We will do our best to provide reading material in an accessible electronic format; we may not have the time/resources to provide Braille versions. please provide a CV or resume and a brief -- no more than one-page -- explanation of why you are interested in participating in this event. All materials need to be e-mailed in an accessible electronic format (e.g., accessible HTML, MS Word, RTF, TXT). Please do not e-mail social security numbers, but include full name and contact information. Please e-mail your materials to schaferpp at state.gov] by August 6, 2009. Somer and I (at least) will make our decisions and e-mail or call each selected participant by late August. If at all possible, we are hoping to select two impressive men and two impressive women law students. Please e-mail or call me or Somer with any questions. Thanks, and Live well! ---Paul & Somer ******************* Paul P. Schafer, DAG Council Administrator (Chair) Information Resource Management (IRM) Bureau U.S. Department of State, SA3 2121 Virginia Avenue N.W., RM 4148 Washington, D. C. 20037 Voice: 202.663.0223 (ext. 30223) E-mail: schaferpp at state.gov Somer Bessire-Briers Office of Civil Rights Special Emphasis Program Individuals with Disabilities 202-647-2321 (ph) From r.g.munro at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 10:42:45 2009 From: r.g.munro at gmail.com (Robert Munro) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:42:45 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers Message-ID: Friends and colleagues, I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at UNC. This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his chambers. Because I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did not have to come out of the judge's budget. Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. Onward! Rob Munro From mruniverse30 at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 15:04:11 2009 From: mruniverse30 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:04:11 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Health Fair Message-ID: <009201ca0ecb$840a2dd0$8c1e8970$@com> Good morning! I hope this e-mail finds you doing well. My paralegal association, Houston Metropolitan Paralegal Association, is hosting a free health fair on Saturday, August 15, 2009 at the Power Center here in Houston, Texas. If you or anyone you know of may be interested in attending, please forward the attached flyer with all the pertinent information. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me via e-mail or by phone at 713.614.3322. Thanks! Warm Regards, William -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: HMPA Health Fair.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 130179 bytes Desc: not available URL: From keith-vick at msn.com Tue Jul 28 01:57:44 2009 From: keith-vick at msn.com (Keith Vick) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:57:44 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Rob, Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited on the advice I can give you. But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your question. Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, statement. Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship you want. Warmest regards, Keith Vick -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Munro Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers Friends and colleagues, I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at UNC. This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his chambers. Because I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did not have to come out of the judge's budget. Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. Onward! Rob Munro _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%40msn.c om From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Tue Jul 28 02:07:01 2009 From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:07:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Reminder, Texas Hold'em Tristate Tournament Message-ID: <20090728020701.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> Attention On-Line Poker Players We are holding another Texas Hold'em tournament. The proceeds will be split among three affiliates, Indiana, Maryland, and New York. We will have the usual cash prizes for those who end the evening with the most chips, or in this instance, "KNFB Reader Mobiles". In addition, each winner will receive a donation to his or her local chapter or division. When? This Sunday, August 2, from 3:00 PM to 9:00 PM eastern time. To sign up go to www.nfbny.org./tristate The cost is only $20 for up to six hours of fun and a possible cash prize for both you and your chapter or division. Happy poker playing! Ray Wayne From jsorozco at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 05:43:41 2009 From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:43:41 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Reminder, Texas Hold'em Tristate Tournament In-Reply-To: <20090728020701.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <8948E128A5634932BA2C5CB064B6632A@Rufus> The correct link is: http://nfbny.org/tristate.htm Joe Orozco "A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the crowd."--Max Lucado -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ray wayne Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:07 PM To: chapter-presidents at nfbnet.org; blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: dandrews at visi.com Subject: [blindlaw] Reminder, Texas Hold'em Tristate Tournament Attention On-Line Poker Players We are holding another Texas Hold'em tournament. The proceeds will be split among three affiliates, Indiana, Maryland, and New York. We will have the usual cash prizes for those who end the evening with the most chips, or in this instance, "KNFB Reader Mobiles". In addition, each winner will receive a donation to his or her local chapter or division. When? This Sunday, August 2, from 3:00 PM to 9:00 PM eastern time. To sign up go to www.nfbny.org./tristate The cost is only $20 for up to six hours of fun and a possible cash prize for both you and your chapter or division. Happy poker playing! Ray Wayne _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jsoroz co%40gmail.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From r.g.munro at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 10:49:03 2009 From: r.g.munro at gmail.com (Robert Munro) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:49:03 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Keith, Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and inexpensive way to resolve that issue. Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. Thanks again for your thoughts. Onward! Rob Munro -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keith Vick Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers Hi Rob, Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited on the advice I can give you. But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your question. Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, statement. Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship you want. Warmest regards, Keith Vick -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Munro Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers Friends and colleagues, I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at UNC. This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his chambers. Because I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did not have to come out of the judge's budget. Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. Onward! Rob Munro _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%40msn.c om _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. com From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 28 16:22:46 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:22:46 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Message-ID: As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after all selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't accentuate the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a clerk here is the product or commodity. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > Keith, > > Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information that > will > help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide against me because I > can't drive, that there is a simple and inexpensive way to resolve that > issue. > > Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or not, > I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. > > Thanks again for your thoughts. > > > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Keith Vick > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > Hi Rob, > > Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've > always > liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me that most > judges > wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their decision. Since I have no > judicial clerkship experience, I am limited on the advice I can give you. > > But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the > blind > (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns out to be > true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your question. > > Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above > proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, > statement. > > Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship you > want. > > Warmest regards, > > Keith Vick > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Munro > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM > To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > Friends and colleagues, > > I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at UNC. > This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I > worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he had > to > hold court in cities other than the one where he had his chambers. > Because > I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. > > Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a blind > person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge to pass me > over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to have something to > tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. > > Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state > governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind > employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did not > have to come out of the judge's budget. > > Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%40msn.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From r.g.munro at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 15:06:52 2009 From: r.g.munro at gmail.com (Robert Munro) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:06:52 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Message-ID: Chuck, You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. I just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem the XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in going over my application materials one more time. Onward! Rob Munro -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after all selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't accentuate the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a clerk here is the product or commodity. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > Keith, > > Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information > that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide > against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and > inexpensive way to resolve that issue. > > Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or > not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. > > Thanks again for your thoughts. > > > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Keith Vick > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > Hi Rob, > > Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've > always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me > that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their > decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited > on the advice I can give you. > > But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the > blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns > out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your > question. > > Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above > proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, > statement. > > Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship > you want. > > Warmest regards, > > Keith Vick > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Robert Munro > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM > To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > Friends and colleagues, > > I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at UNC. > This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I > worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he > had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his > chambers. > Because > I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. > > Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a > blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge > to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to > have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. > > Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state > governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind > employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did > not have to come out of the judge's budget. > > Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%4 > 0msn.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40s > bcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. com From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 29 15:58:19 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:58:19 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Message-ID: Unfortunately, I have not heard of drivers being paid for by state agencies. In the late 70's with a bachelor's degree while working for a community agency I was approached by the Michigan Commission for the Blind representative to take a position as a rehab counselor. In that position I would have had to cover a territory consisting of five counties, most of which were rural and would have had to pay a driver myself on a $12,000 per year salary. This salary was only about $2000 more than what I was making in my existing employment. Needless to say I turned down the position for many reasons including not only the economic foolishness of this but the subtle expectation that because I was blind I should be working with blind people since they paid a large of my expenses for college. I have worked in many settings and I have never had the luxury of a driver that was paid for by an employer. In certain instances I was reimbursed somewhat for expenses for transportation. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > Chuck, > > You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. > I > just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the > driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem the > XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments > about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. > > Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in going > over my application materials one more time. > > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered > clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments > as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after > all > selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't > accentuate > the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a > clerk here is the product or commodity. > Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal > 1237 P Street > Fresno ca 93721 > 559-266-9237 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Munro" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > >> Keith, >> >> Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information >> that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide >> against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and >> inexpensive way to resolve that issue. >> >> Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or >> not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. >> >> Thanks again for your thoughts. >> >> >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Keith Vick >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Hi Rob, >> >> Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've >> always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me >> that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their >> decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited >> on the advice I can give you. >> >> But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the >> blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns >> out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your >> question. >> >> Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above >> proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, >> statement. >> >> Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship >> you want. >> >> Warmest regards, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Robert Munro >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM >> To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Friends and colleagues, >> >> I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at >> UNC. >> This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I >> worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he >> had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his >> chambers. >> Because >> I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. >> >> Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a >> blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge >> to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to >> have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. >> >> Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state >> governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind >> employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did >> not have to come out of the judge's budget. >> >> Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%4 >> 0msn.c >> om >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40s >> bcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 29 16:10:49 2009 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:10:49 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] off-topic question References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Message-ID: <16AD5C97DB354734AFA1E8736137974D@DANELLIEVANDAWN> Are there any attorneys out there that are well-versed in questions related to social security disability resulting from blindness, and particularly regarding the significant gainful activity issues? Please let me hear from you. Dan McBride Texas Blind Attorney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > Chuck, > > You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. > I > just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the > driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem the > XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments > about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. > > Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in going > over my application materials one more time. > > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered > clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments > as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after > all > selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't > accentuate > the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a > clerk here is the product or commodity. > Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal > 1237 P Street > Fresno ca 93721 > 559-266-9237 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Munro" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > >> Keith, >> >> Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information >> that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide >> against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and >> inexpensive way to resolve that issue. >> >> Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or >> not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. >> >> Thanks again for your thoughts. >> >> >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Keith Vick >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Hi Rob, >> >> Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've >> always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me >> that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their >> decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited >> on the advice I can give you. >> >> But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the >> blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns >> out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your >> question. >> >> Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above >> proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, >> statement. >> >> Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship >> you want. >> >> Warmest regards, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Robert Munro >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM >> To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Friends and colleagues, >> >> I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at >> UNC. >> This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I >> worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he >> had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his >> chambers. >> Because >> I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. >> >> Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a >> blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge >> to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to >> have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. >> >> Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state >> governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind >> employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did >> not have to come out of the judge's budget. >> >> Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%4 >> 0msn.c >> om >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40s >> bcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 18:14:24 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:14:24 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] off-topic question In-Reply-To: <16AD5C97DB354734AFA1E8736137974D@DANELLIEVANDAWN> References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> <16AD5C97DB354734AFA1E8736137974D@DANELLIEVANDAWN> Message-ID: <002d01ca1078$6bd91830$438b4890$@com> Dan, I'm not an attorney but have done work in this area. If you'd like, please contact me off list and we can figure out what you need. William -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:11 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] off-topic question Are there any attorneys out there that are well-versed in questions related to social security disability resulting from blindness, and particularly regarding the significant gainful activity issues? Please let me hear from you. Dan McBride Texas Blind Attorney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > Chuck, > > You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. > I > just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the > driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem the > XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments > about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. > > Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in going > over my application materials one more time. > > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered > clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments > as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after > all > selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't > accentuate > the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a > clerk here is the product or commodity. > Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal > 1237 P Street > Fresno ca 93721 > 559-266-9237 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Munro" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > >> Keith, >> >> Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information >> that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide >> against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and >> inexpensive way to resolve that issue. >> >> Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or >> not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. >> >> Thanks again for your thoughts. >> >> >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Keith Vick >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Hi Rob, >> >> Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've >> always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me >> that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their >> decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited >> on the advice I can give you. >> >> But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the >> blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns >> out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your >> question. >> >> Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above >> proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, >> statement. >> >> Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship >> you want. >> >> Warmest regards, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Robert Munro >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM >> To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Friends and colleagues, >> >> I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at >> UNC. >> This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I >> worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he >> had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his >> chambers. >> Because >> I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. >> >> Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a >> blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge >> to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to >> have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. >> >> Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state >> governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind >> employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did >> not have to come out of the judge's budget. >> >> Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%4 >> 0msn.c >> om >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40s >> bcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal .net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 29 18:54:22 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:54:22 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] off-topic question In-Reply-To: <16AD5C97DB354734AFA1E8736137974D@DANELLIEVANDAWN> References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> <16AD5C97DB354734AFA1E8736137974D@DANELLIEVANDAWN> Message-ID: <02872EC76075451AB9057EE3A3F7641A@spike> I have had some experience dealing with this issue. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:10 AM Subject: [blindlaw] off-topic question > Are there any attorneys out there that are well-versed in > questions related to social security disability resulting from blindness, > and particularly regarding the significant gainful activity issues? > Please let me hear from you. > > Dan McBride > Texas Blind Attorney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Munro" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:06 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > >> Chuck, >> >> You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. >> I >> just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the >> driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem >> the >> XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments >> about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. >> >> Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in >> going >> over my application materials one more time. >> >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM >> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered >> clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your >> accomplishments >> as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after >> all >> selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't >> accentuate >> the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a >> clerk here is the product or commodity. >> Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal >> 1237 P Street >> Fresno ca 93721 >> 559-266-9237 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Munro" >> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> >>> Keith, >>> >>> Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information >>> that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide >>> against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and >>> inexpensive way to resolve that issue. >>> >>> Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or >>> not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. >>> >>> Thanks again for your thoughts. >>> >>> >>> >>> Onward! >>> >>> Rob Munro >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>> On Behalf Of Keith Vick >>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM >>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >>> >>> Hi Rob, >>> >>> Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've >>> always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me >>> that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their >>> decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited >>> on the advice I can give you. >>> >>> But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the >>> blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns >>> out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your >>> question. >>> >>> Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above >>> proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, >>> statement. >>> >>> Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship >>> you want. >>> >>> Warmest regards, >>> >>> Keith Vick >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>> On Behalf Of Robert Munro >>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM >>> To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >>> >>> Friends and colleagues, >>> >>> I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at >>> UNC. >>> This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I >>> worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he >>> had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his >>> chambers. >>> Because >>> I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. >>> >>> Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a >>> blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge >>> to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to >>> have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent >>> this. >>> >>> Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state >>> governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind >>> employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did >>> not have to come out of the judge's budget. >>> >>> Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. >>> >>> Onward! >>> >>> Rob Munro >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%4 >>> 0msn.c >>> om >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. >>> com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40s >>> bcglobal.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From angie.matney at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 20:33:00 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:33:00 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Message-ID: <4a70b1fe.1921720a.41c6.ffff851f@mx.google.com> Hi all, Rob: I don't know that a state agency would pay a driver to transport you and the judge over the course of a year. Perhaps they would do something like this in limited summer employment situations. If I were making a case to VR to support this, I would argue that 1) the clerkship is not a permanent position; 2) obtaining a clerkship will give you an advantage in the job market; and 3) your ability to obtain a clerkship is limited if you cannot provide transportation. I think you'll probably be OK, though; there have been other blind clerks, and I don't think judges see this as an essential function of a clerk. I agree, though, that simply making arguments based on "fairness" is theoretically OK but not likely to get you very far in practice. Chuck: It's unfortunate that you were expected to pay a driver $12,000 in order to hold a state job. I think things are different nowadays as far as state employees are concerned. I had a driver when I worked as a VR counselor. This was necessary, since the territory I covered contained many rural areas. The Virginia Office for Protection and Advocacy provided me with a driver during the year and a half I worked there as a disability rights advocate. I have also been fortunate with my law-related employment. Both of the law firms I worked for provided transportation to and from many events. Sometimes, this involved riding with someone else who was going to the same place. When I volunteered for Legal Aid after 1L, there was a college student who wanted to volunteer also. His duties included occasionally serving as my reader and driver. Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:58 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers Unfortunately, I have not heard of drivers being paid for by state agencies. In the late 70's with a bachelor's degree while working for a community agency I was approached by the Michigan Commission for the Blind representative to take a position as a rehab counselor. In that position I would have had to cover a territory consisting of five counties, most of which were rural and would have had to pay a driver myself on a $12,000 per year salary. This salary was only about $2000 more than what I was making in my existing employment. Needless to say I turned down the position for many reasons including not only the economic foolishness of this but the subtle expectation that because I was blind I should be working with blind people since they paid a large of my expenses for college. I have worked in many settings and I have never had the luxury of a driver that was paid for by an employer. In certain instances I was reimbursed somewhat for expenses for transportation. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > Chuck, > > You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. > I > just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the > driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem the > XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments > about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. > > Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in going > over my application materials one more time. > > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered > clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments > as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after > all > selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't > accentuate > the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a > clerk here is the product or commodity. > Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal > 1237 P Street > Fresno ca 93721 > 559-266-9237 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Munro" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > >> Keith, >> >> Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information >> that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide >> against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and >> inexpensive way to resolve that issue. >> >> Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or >> not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. >> >> Thanks again for your thoughts. >> >> >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Keith Vick >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Hi Rob, >> >> Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've >> always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me >> that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their >> decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited >> on the advice I can give you. >> >> But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the >> blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns >> out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your >> question. >> >> Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above >> proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, >> statement. >> >> Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship >> you want. >> >> Warmest regards, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Robert Munro >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM >> To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Friends and colleagues, >> >> I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at >> UNC. >> This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I >> worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he >> had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his >> chambers. >> Because >> I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. >> >> Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a >> blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge >> to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to >> have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. >> >> Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state >> governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind >> employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did >> not have to come out of the judge's budget. >> >> Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%4 >> 0msn.c >> om >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40s >> bcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglob al.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma il.com From dandrews at visi.com Thu Jul 30 22:50:41 2009 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:50:41 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Message-ID: I work for the state agency for the blind in Minnesota and we regularly pay drivers, and readers for blind persons. Things have changed from the late 70's with the ADA and reasonable accommodations. Dave At 10:58 AM 7/29/2009,you >Unfortunately, I have not heard of drivers being paid for by state >agencies. In the late 70's with a bachelor's degree while working >for a community agency I was approached by the Michigan Commission >for the Blind representative to take a position as a rehab >counselor. In that position I would have had to cover a territory >consisting of five counties, most of which were rural and would have >had to pay a driver myself on a $12,000 per year salary. This salary >was only about $2000 more than what I was making in my existing >employment. Needless to say I turned down the position for many >reasons including not only the economic foolishness of this but the >subtle expectation that because I was blind I should be working with >blind people since they paid a large of my expenses for college. I >have worked in many settings and I have never had the luxury of a >driver that was paid for by an employer. In certain instances I was >reimbursed somewhat for expenses for transportation. >Chuck >----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" >To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:06 AM >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > >>Chuck, >> >>You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. I >>just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the >>driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem the >>XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments >>about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. >> >>Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in going >>over my application materials one more time. >> >> >>Onward! >> >>Rob Munro >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >>Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net >>Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM >>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >>As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered >>clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments >>as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after all >>selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't accentuate >>the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a >>clerk here is the product or commodity. >>Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal >>1237 P Street >>Fresno ca 93721 >>559-266-9237 >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Robert Munro" >>To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >>Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM >>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> >>>Keith, >>> >>>Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information >>>that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide >>>against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and >>>inexpensive way to resolve that issue. >>> >>>Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or >>>not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. >>> >>>Thanks again for your thoughts. >>> >>> >>> >>>Onward! >>> >>>Rob Munro >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>On Behalf Of Keith Vick >>>Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM >>>To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com >>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >>> >>>Hi Rob, >>> >>>Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've >>>always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me >>>that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their >>>decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited >>>on the advice I can give you. >>> >>>But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the >>>blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns >>>out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your >>>question. >>> >>>Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above >>>proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, >>>statement. >>> >>>Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship >>>you want. >>> >>>Warmest regards, >>> >>>Keith Vick >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>On Behalf Of Robert Munro >>>Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM >>>To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>>Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >>> >>>Friends and colleagues, >>> >>>I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at UNC. >>>This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I >>>worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he >>>had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his >>>chambers. >>>Because >>>I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. >>> >>>Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a >>>blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge >>>to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to >>>have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. >>> >>>Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state >>>governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind >>>employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did >>>not have to come out of the judge's budget. >>> >>>Thank you for your help. 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Shockingly, Angela's own mother, Melissa Love Joy, intends to testify on behalf of Randy Malus. John Goodfellow, Angela's sighted neighbor, intends to tell the Court what a wonderful mom Angela is. Experts on both sides will tell the Court with whom the children should be placed. You the audience are the jury and will need to decide who is more competent to have custody of these three lovely children, ages 2, 4, and 7. All you have to do is pay your juror registration fee of $5.00 and you can help decide this important case. Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. President, NABL LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. From ahuffman6 at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 16:40:36 2009 From: ahuffman6 at gmail.com (F. Allen Huffman) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:40:36 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] possible internship or job opportunity Message-ID: <001a01c9fa6a$aff7cda0$110010ac@ALLEN> , my name is Franklin Allen Huffman. I am a recent totally blind college graduate in Orlando Florida. I am interested in pursuing law school and am looking to gain work experience or an internship in the legal field to see if that is what I want to do. Additionally,I am looking to talk with blind lawyers about their experiences . I am also looking in to possible study aids for the LSAT that might be accessible to jaws for windows which I use. I am wondering if anyone in your organization could assist me with any of these issues? If their is a person I should contact specifically and this is not the correct forum for making this enquiry please let me know and I apologize. I can be reached by phone at 407-782-0979 or email at ahuffman6 at gmail.com. Thanks so much and I would appreciate any assistance anyone can give. Respectfully Allen Huffman From pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 1 17:29:17 2009 From: pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net (Peter Donahue) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:29:17 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Mock Trial Recordings References: Message-ID: <01c201c9fa71$77ef26e0$4001a8c0@yourfsyly0jtwn> Good afternoon Scot and all, Mary and I have always wanted to attend one of these Mock Trials but tend to have other activities going on at the same time. Cutting the national convention short by one day has only made things worse. Has any thought been given to recording these Mock Trials and making them available for purchess from the division as an on-going fundraiser or perhaps posting them to the NABL Web Site? Maybe this idea could be discussed in your meeting during the convention. Just a suggestion. Peter Donahue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. LaBarre" To: "David Andrews" Cc: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: [blindlaw] for broad distribution,Presenting the 12TH Annual Mock Trial PRESENTING THE 12TH ANNUAL MOCK TRIAL NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS Saturday, July 4th Ambassador 1 Ballroom, level 3, Marriott Renaissance Center The National Association of Blind Lawyers is pleased to present the 12TH Annual Mock Trial featuring the case of Malus v. Malus in the District Court for the State of Federation, County of Whoseit, the Honorable Charles S. Brown, Presiding. This case pits a sighted father against a blind mother who are getting divorced and fighting over their three children. Randy Malus, the sighted father, alleges that the blind are incapable of safely taking care of young children. Angela Malus, the sighted mother, counter alleges that Randy is a dead beat dad who is incredibly irresponsible and that the children are far better off with her. Shockingly, Angela's own mother, Melissa Love Joy, intends to testify on behalf of Randy Malus. John Goodfellow, Angela's sighted neighbor, intends to tell the Court what a wonderful mom Angela is. Experts on both sides will tell the Court with whom the children should be placed. You the audience are the jury and will need to decide who is more competent to have custody of these three lovely children, ages 2, 4, and 7. All you have to do is pay your juror registration fee of $5.00 and you can help decide this important case. Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. President, NABL LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pdonahue1%40sbcglobal.net From dandrews at visi.com Wed Jul 1 19:37:03 2009 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:37:03 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] See and Win Orator for Blackberry Smartphones at NFB Convention Message-ID: Introducing Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones New screen reader software application provides blind and visually impaired customers with a solution to access BlackBerry smartphones With The National Federation of the Blind conference just around the corner, HumanWare is pleased to introduce its newest software solution called "Orator for BlackBerry for BlackBerry Smartphones" to the NFB members. Access to information through mobile devices is key in today's business world and the use of smartphones have become the predominant way of communication for business professionals and management. With over 21 million subscribers in 150 countries the BlackBerry Smartphones have grown in popularity to become the smartphone of choice to stay in touch with work, family and friends and important information while on the go. Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones is a innovative screen reader software that enables visually impaired users to access and operate BlackBerry Smartphones Issue from a joint collaboration with Code Factory, the leading provider of screen reader technology and maker of Mobile Speak, and Research In Motion (RIM), the maker of the award winning portfolio of BlackBerry products and solutions, Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones is design to convert the information visually display on the device screen into a voice output enabling people who are visually impaired to use BlackBerry smartphones to increase independence and productivity in today's competitive world. Available for the new QWERTY BlackBerry smartphones, Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones will provide you with greater freedom to manage your daily activities in the way that is most convenient for you with the ability to stay connected anytime, anywhere. If you are attending the National Federation of the Blind conference come visit us at the HumanWare booth to be amongst the first to get your hands on a personal demonstration and have a sneak peak at this coming solution for BlackBerry smartphones. Whether you are attending the conference or not don't miss the chance to win one of 4 BlackBerry smartphones with Orator software package. To register your name you must log on at www.orator4bb.com\draw and fill out the form. This will automatically enter your name in the draw. Winners will be announced on the HumanWare site on July 31 If you are interested in learning more on the Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones solution and find out why BlackBerry devices are so popular, be sure to attend the product presentation. Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones: blind access solution for BlackBerry Smartphones When: Friday July 3rd, 2009 Time: 4h00 to 4h50 PM Where: LaSalle A and B Room, Level 5 Speakers: Michel Pepin, Orator for BlackBerry Smartphones Product Manager, HumanWare From this session you will learn the features and benefits of this screen reader solution and find out more on the BlackBerry device applications that will be supported For those of you that will not be available to attend this presentation, be sure to visit us in the exhibit hall at the HumanWare booth during the following exhibit hours: Saturday July 4th, 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Sunday July 5th, 8:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Monday July 6th, 12:00 p.m. to 1:45 p.m. Tuesday July 7th, 12:00 p.m. to 1:45 p.m. and 7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. Come and discover if Orator for BlackBerry Smartphone is the solution for you to stay connected with what is important in your life. Visit our web site at www.orator4 bb.com to find out more about this unique mobile solution About HumanWare HumanWare (http://www.humanware.com/) is the global leader in assistive technologies for the print disabled. HumanWare provides products to people who are blind and have low vision and students with learning disabilities. HumanWare offers a collection of innovative products include BrailleNote, the leading productivity device for the blind in education, business and for personal use; the Victor Reader product line, the world's leading digital audiobook players, and SmartView Xtend, the first fully modular and upgradeable CCTV-based video magnifier. David Andrews and white cane Harry. From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Jul 1 19:47:04 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:47:04 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Agenda, 2009 Annual Meeting of NABL, attached and pasted into message Message-ID: AGENDA NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS 2009 ANNUAL MEETING --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sunday, July 5, 2009 Richard A Room, Level 5 MARRIOTT RENAISSANCE CENTER DETROIT, MICHIGAN 1:00 p.m. WELCOME, INTRODUCTORY REMARKS, AND VARIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS Scott C. LaBarre Esq., President, NABL, Denver, Colorado. 1:10 p.m. PRACTICING BEFORE THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION OFFICE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS: How to Get It Done Best Noel Nightingale Esq., Attorney, U.S. Department of Education Office for Civil Rights, Seattle, Washington 1:55 p.m. THE EEOC AND THE ADA AMENDMENTS ACT DEBORAH M. BARNO, Supervisory Trial Attorney, Detroit Field Office, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Detroit, Michigan 2:40 p.m. PRACTICING BEFORE THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES: What You Need to Know Ronza Othman, Esq., Policy Advisor, U.S. Department of Homeland Security Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, Washington, DC 3:10 p.m. THE FIRST BLIND U.S. SUPREME COURT LAW CLERK Isaac J. Lidsky, Esq., Law clerk to the Honorable Justice Sandra Day O'Connor and the Honorable Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Washington, DC 3:45 p.m. ACCESS TO PRINTED WORKS ELECTRONICALLY OR OTHERWISE: The Conflict Between Copyright and Access Rights Mehgan Sidhu, Esq., Associate, Brown, Goldstein, and Levy, Baltimore, Maryland; Scott C. LaBarre, Esq., LaBarre Law Offices P.C., Denver, Colorado 4:40 p.m. BUSINESS SESSION: CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, ELECTIONS, AND VARIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS 5:00 p.m. Adjourn to reception 5:00 to 6:30 p.m. NABL RECEPTION (ticketed event) Join us for cocktails and hors d'oeuvres as we celebrate the progress of our organization. Network and meet your fellow blind attorneys and legal professionals. Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2009 NABL conference agenda.doc Type: application/msword Size: 29696 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Thu Jul 2 01:56:53 2009 From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:56:53 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] for broad distribution, Presenting the 12; TH Annual Mock Trial In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090702015653.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> I believe the fee is five dollars. The way it was written, the speech in my Braille Sense read it as fifty-four dollars. Of course we'll take $54 if anyone wants to tender it! I'm still working on a name for myself. Anthony and I are representing the blind Mom. So come on by and see what I come up with. Ray Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. LaBarre" To: "David Andrews" Date: Wednesday, Jul 1, 2009 10:08:01 Subject: [bllaw] for broad distribution, Presenting the 12;TH Annual Mock Trial > > > PRESENTING THE 12;TH ANNUAL MOCK TRIAL > NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS > Saturday, July 4th > Ambassador 1 Ballroom, level 3, > Marriott Renaissance Center > > The National Association of Blind Lawyers is pleased to present the 12;TH Annual Mock Trial featuring the case of Malus very. Malus in the District Court for the State of Federation, County of Whoseit, the Honorable Charles S. Brown, Presiding. This case pits a sighted father against a blind mother who are getting divorced and fighting over their three children. Randy Malus, the sighted father, alleges that the blind are incapable of safely taking care of young children. Angela Malus, the sighted mother, counter alleges that Randy is a dead beat dad who is incredibly irresponsible and that the children are far better off with her. Shockingly, Angela's own mother, Melissa Love Joy, intends to testify on behalf of Randy Malus. John Goodfellow, Angela's sighted neighbor, intends to tell the Court what a wonderful mom Angela is. Experts on both sides will tell the Court with whom the children should be placed. You the audience are the jury and will need to decide who is more competent to have custody of these three lovely children, ages 2, 4, and 7. All you have to do is pay your juror registration fee of $54..00 and you can help decide this important case. > Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. > President, NABLIND > LaBarre Law Offices P.C. > 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 > Denver, Colorado 80222 > 303 504-5979 (voice) > 303 757-3640 (fax) > slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) > www.labarrelaw.com (website) > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic > Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. so's' 2510-2521. > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for bllaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Jul 2 10:32:39 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:32:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Presenting the 12TH Annual Mock Trial Message-ID: PRESENTING THE 12TH ANNUAL MOCK TRIAL NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS Saturday, July 4th Ambassador 1 Ballroom, level 3, Marriott Renaissance Center 4:30--6:00 p.m. The National Association of Blind Lawyers is pleased to present the 12TH Annual Mock Trial featuring the case of Malus v. Malus in the District Court for the State of Federation, County of Whoseit, the Honorable Charles S. Brown, Presiding. This case pits a sighted father against a blind mother who are getting divorced and fighting over their three children. Randy Malus, the sighted father, alleges that the blind are incapable of safely taking care of young children. Angela Malus, the sighted mother, counter alleges that Randy is a dead beat dad who is incredibly irresponsible and that the children are far better off with her. Shockingly, Angela's own mother, Melissa Love Joy, intends to testify on behalf of Randy Malus. John Goodfellow, Angela's sighted neighbor, intends to tell the Court what a wonderful mom Angela is. Experts on both sides will tell the Court with whom the children should be placed. You the audience are the jury and will need to decide who is more competent to have custody of these three lovely children, ages 2, 4, and 7. All you have to do is pay your juror registration fee of $5.00 and you can help decide this important case. Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. President, NABL LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) From LPovinelli at aol.com Thu Jul 2 10:35:12 2009 From: LPovinelli at aol.com (by way of David Andrews ) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:35:12 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Our own 2009 NFB tenBroek Scholarship Winner reports on NPR's Marketplace Message-ID: U.S. Supreme Court building Ruling may change campaign finance The Supreme Court issued formal opinions for all but one case this term. The decision on that case could have big implications for how election campaigns are financed. Corbb O'Connor reports. ---------- It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4206 (20090701) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From roddj12 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 2 18:20:58 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:20:58 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Never knew this case existed References: Message-ID: I found this in my bar review prep. "It is firmly established that solicitation of funds for charitable or political causes is speech protected by the First Amendment. [Riley v. National Federation of the Blind of North Carolina, Inc., 487 U.S. 781 (1988)." Good way to remember the rule. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. LaBarre (by way of David Andrews)" To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 6:32 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Presenting the 12TH Annual Mock Trial > PRESENTING THE 12TH ANNUAL MOCK TRIAL > NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS > Saturday, July 4th > Ambassador 1 Ballroom, level 3, > Marriott Renaissance Center > 4:30--6:00 p.m. > > The National Association of Blind Lawyers is pleased to present the 12TH > Annual Mock Trial featuring the case of Malus v. Malus in the District > Court for the State of Federation, County of Whoseit, the Honorable > Charles S. Brown, Presiding. This case pits a sighted father against a > blind mother who are getting divorced and fighting over their three > children. Randy Malus, the sighted father, alleges that the blind are > incapable of safely taking care of young children. Angela Malus, the > sighted mother, counter alleges that Randy is a dead beat dad who is > incredibly irresponsible and that the children are far better off with > her. Shockingly, Angela's own mother, Melissa Love Joy, intends to > testify on behalf of Randy Malus. John Goodfellow, Angela's sighted > neighbor, intends to tell the Court what a wonderful mom Angela is. > Experts on both sides will tell the Court with whom the children should be > placed. You the audience are the jury and will need to decide who is more > competent to have custody of these three lovely children, ages 2, 4, and > 7. All you have to do is pay your juror registration fee of $5.00 and you > can help decide this important case. > Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. > President, NABL > LaBarre Law Offices P.C. > 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 > Denver, Colorado 80222 > 303 504-5979 (voice) > 303 757-3640 (fax) > slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) > www.labarrelaw.com (website) > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From rjs059 at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 3 02:41:45 2009 From: rjs059 at peoplepc.com (rjs059 at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:41:45 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Opinion Message-ID: Here's a case concerning a medical doctor in my state. Tell me what you think. Remember this is about the arguments of the parties. RJ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From dandrews at visi.com Mon Jul 6 16:39:02 2009 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:39:02 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Updated Link for NFB Convention Stream Message-ID: Earlier today I posted a link to listen/watch a live stream of the NFB convention, now going on in Detroit. The link used an embedded Silverlight player that may not be accessible to all. Below is a new link that uses your default media player. We apologize for any problems that this has caused anybody. http://vbricksys.edgeboss.net/wmedia-live/vbricksys/58969/300_vbricksys-nfb_30241_090615.asx Dave David Andrews and white cane Harry. From keith-vick at msn.com Mon Jul 6 20:30:27 2009 From: keith-vick at msn.com (Keith Vick) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:30:27 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: Hi, I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list have any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability to ADA - Employment. Thanks, Keith Vick From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Tue Jul 7 01:02:30 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:02:30 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: <628ED07B993C405AA56E92AD8BED5E74@StevePC> Can you give us a cite on the case? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.5/2220 - Release Date: 07/05/09 17:54:00 From keith-vick at msn.com Tue Jul 7 01:41:19 2009 From: keith-vick at msn.com (Keith Vick) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:41:19 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: <628ED07B993C405AA56E92AD8BED5E74@StevePC> References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> <628ED07B993C405AA56E92AD8BED5E74@StevePC> Message-ID: Recent decision. No cite. I thought the ADA law community would already be somewhat versed in it by now. http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/08pdf/08-441.pdf -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:03 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA Can you give us a cite on the case? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40in sightbb.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.5/2220 - Release Date: 07/05/09 17:54:00 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%40msn.c om From keith-vick at msn.com Tue Jul 7 14:28:47 2009 From: keith-vick at msn.com (Keith Vick) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:28:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> <628ED07B993C405AA56E92AD8BED5E74@StevePC> Message-ID: Well, I haven't heard from anyone as yet. In essence, my concern is the reasoning in the decision could be applied to disability discrimination cases. That is, reading 'because of' as meaning 'but for' could be applied by district courts (probably splitting circuits) in disability cases even though Gross was about age discrimination. This may sound like semantics but apparently the differences are meaningful. Attorneys in employment discrimination appear to be saying that interpretation makes it nearly impossible to prove (absent something similar to 'I am firing you because you are old') age discrimination. From what I am reading, it sounds like the employer could even say something like 'yes, age plays a role in moving you to this demeaning job, but the move is more about your computer skills' and not be violating Title VII under Gross because the move to the demeaning job was not 'but for' the employee's age - it was also motivated by the employee's lack of computer skills. It seems to me that the implications of this reasoning for the disabled are pretty harsh. When I did research last night in the language in Title VII a couple of nights ago (it was late so maybe I was seeing things) I saw the same 'because of' language. Thus, Gross could be applied to disability discrimination cases. I believe that Congress is considering amending Title VII - Age Discrimination in Employment to change 'because of' to 'motivated by' and probably will as the AARP is a very powerful lobby. I am going to contact my Congresspersons and ask them to consider doing so for the disability portion of Title VII (if they weren't already). As pat of the amendments I plan on asking them to include 'Congressional intent' language that says a 'but for' was never intended to be the test in disability discrimination cases. Just a thought... -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keith Vick Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:41 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA Recent decision. No cite. I thought the ADA law community would already be somewhat versed in it by now. http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/08pdf/08-441.pdf -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:03 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA Can you give us a cite on the case? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40in sightbb.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.5/2220 - Release Date: 07/05/09 17:54:00 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%40msn.c om _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%40msn.c om From angie.matney at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 15:10:43 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:10:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> <628ED07B993C405AA56E92AD8BED5E74@StevePC> Message-ID: <4a536572.c5c2f10a.24b0.ffffcec9@mx.google.com> You might get more responses when people return from convention. From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com Tue Jul 7 16:51:03 2009 From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:51:03 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: <32AA12BD940742DCB982281760EBBE67@RThomas> There is at least one case that I am aware of that is pending right now in which a Federal District Court will have to come to terms with that issue. I am working on an article on this subject right now. However, my prediction is that the decision in Gross will apply to the ADA. I will spell out my reasoning for this opinion in my article. Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. THOMAS & ASSOCIATES www.employersattorneys.com Orange County Office 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 Beverly Hills Office 9107 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 450 Beverly Hills, California 90210 T: (310) 461-3561 -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keith Vick Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:30 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA Hi, I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list have any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability to ADA - Employment. Thanks, Keith Vick _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo ..com From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Tue Jul 7 20:44:43 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:44:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA In-Reply-To: <32AA12BD940742DCB982281760EBBE67@RThomas> References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> <32AA12BD940742DCB982281760EBBE67@RThomas> Message-ID: <0E16B52474F74D17BF8D7BA4B4492A04@StevePC> Please post your article on this site when it is complete. Thanks, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell J. Thomas, Jr" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > There is at least one case that I am aware of that is pending right now in > which a Federal District Court will have to come to terms with that issue. > > I am working on an article on this subject right now. However, my > prediction > is that the decision in Gross will apply to the ADA. > > I will spell out my reasoning for this opinion in my article. > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > > THOMAS & ASSOCIATES > > www.employersattorneys.com > > > > Orange County Office > > 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 > > Newport Beach, California 92660 > > T: (949) 752-0101 > > F: (949) 257-4756 > > M: (949) 466-7238 > > > > Beverly Hills Office > > 9107 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 450 > > Beverly Hills, California 90210 > > T: (310) 461-3561 > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Keith Vick > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:30 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo > ..com > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.7/2222 - Release Date: 07/07/09 05:53:00 From roddj12 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 8 18:26:47 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:26:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about purchasing them. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From jsorozco at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 19:32:43 2009 From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:32:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5C044E63D798409E80AD5065B687B35E@Rufus> I have a Dell Latitude E4300. It's small and more importantly, durable. Because it's their business class of laptops, it'll set you back a few more hundred dollars than your regular line, but it's money well spent. Joe "A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the crowd."--Max Lucado -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:27 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about purchasing them. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj1 2%40hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jsoroz co%40gmail.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4224 (20090708) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4225 (20090708) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4225 (20090708) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From jackchenonline at hotmail.com Wed Jul 8 19:34:50 2009 From: jackchenonline at hotmail.com (Jack Chen) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:34:50 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: Rod I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability. I took the NY and NJ bars with one. If you do decide to get one, I recommend asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops. Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to > take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot > it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing > running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick > recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't > remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for > all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones > are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! > > I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about > purchasing them. > > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Vick" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >> have >> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >> applicability >> to ADA - Employment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com > From angie.matney at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 20:07:48 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:07:48 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: <4a54fc92.0a1ad00a.7387.4c20@mx.google.com> Hi Rod, I am very happy wit hmy Asus EeePC 1000HE. I think the newer EeePC models probably have the best keyboards of netbooks out there, but I'm only going on descriptions. I used mine to take my finals last semester. The keyboard is smaller than standard and might take a little getting used to. The battery life is phenomenal. Good luck, Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:27 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about purchasing them. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma il.com From rfarber at jw.com Wed Jul 8 20:19:53 2009 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:19:53 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: <8EA167BDF4483449B67BBE3BFCB648F10BC03BEE@pdc-mail01.jwllp.com> For laptops I like Dell. It may be a little more expensive, but I know it works. There are several models. I usually call a Dell sales rep and build a model. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:27 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about purchasing them. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Vick" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > Hi, > > I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list > have > any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its applicability > to ADA - Employment. > > Thanks, > > Keith Vick > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotm ail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.c om From bspiry at comcast.net Thu Jul 9 00:01:12 2009 From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:01:12 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: References: <00f301c8ba97$801e8150$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: <7BA303C7E11E410989CD132281205861@fred> I've also had good luck with Lenovo think pad, I've got an X200, small and light *(little over 3 pounds), great battery life (with my 9 cell it gives me about 10 hours) and full sized laptop keyboard and function. Not a notebook I use it well with JAWS 10. . -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack Chen Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:35 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar Rod I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability. I took the NY and NJ bars with one. If you do decide to get one, I recommend asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops. Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to > take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot > it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing > running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick > recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't > remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for > all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones > are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! > > I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about > purchasing them. > > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Vick" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >> have >> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >> applicability >> to ADA - Employment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40h otmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n et From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 04:49:48 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB ) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 23:49:48 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind Paralegal Message-ID: <018c01ca0119$e12048c0$a360da40$@com> Hello group! I am a new member to the mailing list. I was very excited to come across you guys in the google search I did. I have been a paralegal for eight years and lost my sight about a year and a half ago. I have found it very hard to find employment in the legal field. I'm in the process of wanting to freelance but have no idea as to how to get this started. I live in Houston, Texas. Do any of you have ideas to suggest? I've worked in the areas of social security disability, ERISA, HIPAA, labor and employment, civil litigation, products liability, contracts, business formation, etc. Thanks ahead for any help. William From rfarber at jw.com Fri Jul 10 12:38:59 2009 From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:38:59 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind Paralegal In-Reply-To: <018c01ca0119$e12048c0$a360da40$@com> References: <018c01ca0119$e12048c0$a360da40$@com> Message-ID: <8EA167BDF4483449B67BBE3BFCB648F10BC73C8A@pdc-mail01.jwllp.com> William - Please contact me off list at 713-752-4241. Randy -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of WB Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:50 PM To: BlindLaw Subject: [blindlaw] Blind Paralegal Hello group! I am a new member to the mailing list. I was very excited to come across you guys in the google search I did. I have been a paralegal for eight years and lost my sight about a year and a half ago. I have found it very hard to find employment in the legal field. I'm in the process of wanting to freelance but have no idea as to how to get this started. I live in Houston, Texas. Do any of you have ideas to suggest? I've worked in the areas of social security disability, ERISA, HIPAA, labor and employment, civil litigation, products liability, contracts, business formation, etc. Thanks ahead for any help. William _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rfarber%40jw.c om From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Jul 10 15:00:13 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:00:13 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Job Posting: Senior Contract Officer/Grant Officer with Millennium Water Alliance - Ref#19789366 Message-ID: JOB OPPORTUNITY -- Senior Contract/Grant Officer We wish to recruit a Senior Contract/Grant Officer to serve as a contact person and principal advisor to the MWA staff for compliance issues related to public and private sector funding. Position is offered on a contractual consultancy basis and will be part time; approximately 200-250 hours a year. Office space is to be provided by the applicant. Please indicate compensation expectations. Key responsibilities include: 1. Advise management and oversee compliance for various types of financial assistance awards, cooperative agreement, grants, sub grants, memorandums of understanding, etc. 2. Advise and recommend regarding, and coordinate and/or negotiate, new awards, amendments or modifications with various donor agencies, including compliance reviews. 3. Advise and recommend input and technical support during concept paper and proposal development and submission processes. 4. Advise, develop and implement various policies, procedures and systems to help comply with governmental policies, procedures, regulations and statutes, including micro-credit loan programs. 5. Draft appropriate legal agreements for awards, etc. 6. Advise and coordinate with other personnel within the organization to ensure adherence to donor requirements. 7. Develop and maintain relationships with various donor personnel so as to be as effective as possible and to keep apprised of policy and regulatory changes. 8. Oversee management of legal files. 9. Mentor and/or provide compliance training to staff. Five years direct experience with contract/grants agreements and compliance with USAID preferably with an international NGO. Please provide resume or CV, three references and indicate compensation rates. Contact: Alvin Tans, Treasurer, Alvin.Tans at mwawater.org, 803-547-6541 From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 03:38:51 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB ) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:38:51 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal in Houston, Texas Message-ID: <023d01ca01d9$22444170$66ccc450$@com> Hello All! I am a blind paralegal in Houston, Texas. I am currently in the process of beginning to freelance. I have been a paralegal since 2001 in small and large firms in the Houston metro area. I have extensive experience in the following areas: 1. Social Security Disability; 2. Civil Litigation (from client interview to trial); 3. ERISA; 4. HIPAA; 5. Products Liability; 6. Contracts; and 7. Business Formation If you or anyone you know of would like to receive services, please have them contact me via email at mruniverse08 at gmail.com. I am also open to suggestions and full time employment. Thanks! William From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Jul 13 15:27:39 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:27:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Lawsuit challenges policy that lets some grads skip bar exam, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, July 12, 1009 Message-ID: Not blindness-related, but I thought some on this list might find this article of interest given discussions about problems with taking bar exams in some states. Link: http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/50497957.html Text: Lawsuit challenges policy that lets some grads skip bar exam By Erica Perez of the Journal Sentinel July 12, 2009 A federal appeals court has revived a class-action lawsuit that challenges Wisconsin's diploma privilege, a one-of-a-kind policy that allows graduates of the state's law schools to practice law here without taking the bar exam. U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Richard A. Posner's decision raised several questions about the state practice - causing Wisconsin law schools to prepare evidence as the case goes forward. The plaintiffs, graduates of Oklahoma City University School of Law, argued the policy violates the commerce clause of the Constitution by discriminating against graduates of out-of-state law schools. They said the state should extend the diploma privilege to graduates of these schools. Their suit named the Wisconsin Board of Bar Examiners and the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Graduates of accredited law schools in states other than Wisconsin who would like to practice law here have to either pass the Wisconsin bar exam or have practiced law for five years in another state. The case initially was dismissed in 2007 by U.S. District Judge John C. Shabaz, who said the diploma privilege does not discriminate because everyone who did not graduate from a Wisconsin law school has to take the bar - state residents and non-residents alike. But the appeals court on Thursday ruled the case was dismissed prematurely and should be sent back to district court so that plaintiffs can try to prove their case. Posner said it's possible Marquette University and University of Wisconsin law schools offer no more training on Wisconsin law than do schools in other states. If that's true, Posner wrote, the diploma privilege creates an arbitrary distinction between graduates of the Wisconsin schools and other schools. He wrote that such a division could burden interstate commerce by affecting aspiring lawyers' decisions about where to study. Posner also noted that the state's bar exam does not test takers' knowledge of Wisconsin law solely; the exam includes two multi-state tests. The plaintiffs' attorney, Christopher Wiesmueller, said the court's decision made him hopeful that, at the very least, the bar exam might be cut back significantly for out-of-state law graduates. "I would be more than happy to settle for a reduced and more frequent version of the bar exam," he said. "As much as 75% of the test doesn't test Wisconsin law anyway." Under current rules, applicants who fail the exam have to wait several months before they can take it again. State native filed suit Wiesmueller, a Milwaukee native, originally filed suit as a student at Oklahoma City University School of Law. While the matter was on appeal, Wiesmueller passed the Wisconsin bar exam. The appeals court ruled in 2008 that Shabaz should have certified the case as a class-action lawsuit. Once the district court made the case a class-action, it went back before the court of appeals with two new plaintiffs who had not yet passed the bar exam at the time - Wiesmueller's wife, Corinne, and a friend, Heather Devan. Christopher Wiesmueller is concerned about the hardship that out-of-state law school graduates have to endure to practice law in Wisconsin. After graduation, Wiesmueller paid thousands of dollars for a bar exam preparation class, spent months studying and had to get a part-time job to support himself until he landed a job with a firm in November. He is not trying to end the diploma privilege, he said. "I would hope they wouldn't impose a bar exam on everybody, because then we're right back at square one," he said UW Law School Dean Kenneth Davis said the school is putting together a systematic determination of whether Wisconsin law makes up a greater part of the curriculum at UW than it does in other states. While most classes are not designated as addressing Wisconsin law, it's common practice among UW faculty to teach students how Wisconsin law differs from other states, Davis said. "By and large, to teach general legal principles is to teach Wisconsin law," he said. "There are areas where Wisconsin takes a unique approach, and...I think the practice of most faculty is to say, 'Here's the general rule, but here's the way Wisconsin treats it.'" Marquette University Law School Dean Joseph Kearney wrote on his blog Thursday that he believes the privilege will pass constitutional muster. "Marquette Law School has sought to ensure - because of the diploma privilege - that our students are especially introduced to the law and legal profession of Wisconsin," he wrote. Kevin St. John, a spokesman for the state Department of Justice, which is defending the lawsuit, said the agency plans to gather documentation to show that the 140-year-old diploma privilege is appropriate and lawful. "We certainly remain confident that Wisconsin's laws will be upheld," he said. "The Wisconsin system does not run afoul of any non-discrimination provisions of the Constitution." From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Jul 13 15:35:14 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:35:14 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Diversity Summit lays groundwork for agenda, ABA Journal, July 2009 Message-ID: Link: http://www.abanet.org/poladv/wl/09jul/#no6 Text: Diversity Summit lays groundwork for agenda More than 200 lawyers, judges and academics joined ABA President H. Thomas Wells Jr. June 18-20 at a summit he convened in National Harbor, Maryland, to discuss the next steps that must be taken to achieve greater diversity in the legal profession. The kickoff keynote speaker, Kareem Dale, special assistant to President Obama, cited a wide range of appointees at the White House and in various government positions as evidence of a renewed commitment to enforcement of rights for all people, regardless of race, ethnicity, religion or other factors. Rep. G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.), the dinner speaker June 19, described his childhood in North Carolina when all judges and most prosecutors and jurors were white and courtroom observers sat in sections separated by race. Even though much progress has been made, he said there has never been a female district court or superior court judge in his district. "It is a terrible mistake to make public policy without diverse viewpoints. Viewpoint diversity advances democracy," he emphasized. Wells convened the summit to reenergize the legal profession's diversity efforts, including expansion of outreach to persons with disabilities and persons of varying sexual orientation and gender identities as part of a campaign for a more representative bar. He pledged that the association will compile the ideas generated at the summit into an agenda for enhancing diversity in the legal profession. Picture caption: Major participants at "Diversity in the Legal Profession: The Next Steps?" included (from left): Planning Committee Co-Chair The Honorable James A. Wynn Jr., Court of Appeals, Raleigh, North Carolina; ABA President H. Thomas Wells Jr.; Rep. G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.); and Planning Committee Co-Chair Eduardo Roberto Rodriguez of Rodriguez Colvin Chaney & Saenz LLP, Brownsville, Texas. From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Jul 13 23:21:05 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:21:05 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: [mamas_jobs] FW: Job Opportunity for Industrial Appeals Judge 3 - Ref#19880961 Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Vanderford-Anderson [mailto:vanderford at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:07 PM To: MAMAS Mother Attorneys Mentoring Assoc. of Seattle Job Postings Subject: [mamas_jobs] FW: Job Opportunity for Industrial Appeals Judge 3 - Ref#19880961 Lisa Vanderford-Anderson posted: Good afternoon: Our state agency, The Board of Industrial Insurance Appeals, is searching for qualified candidates to fill our Industrial Appeals Judge positions. I have attached the job announcement and the required Training and Education Questionnaire. We also invite you to visit our website at http://www.biia.wa.gov to learn more about our agency. 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Such posting and/or dissemination is not an endorsement by the Department of the organization or group disseminating and/or posting the information. -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Jobs mailing list Jobs at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Jobs: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/jobs_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Jul 14 21:41:12 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:41:12 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jack: I was disappointed to hear about your experiences with Vista and JAWS as I am about to be "upgraded" to Vista. Any chance your experience is isolated or are you aware of others with the same bad experiences? Noel -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack Chen Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:35 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar Rod I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability. I took the NY and NJ bars with one. If you do decide to get one, I recommend asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops. Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to > take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot > it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing > running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick > recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't > remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for > all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones > are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! > > I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about > purchasing them. > > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Vick" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >> have >> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >> applicability >> to ADA - Employment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From jackchenonline at hotmail.com Tue Jul 14 21:55:24 2009 From: jackchenonline at hotmail.com (Jack Chen) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:55:24 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar References: Message-ID: Oh gosh, don't do it if you can help it. If you have to, make sure you have Jaws 10. XP is far far far more stable with Jaws. Others might tell you otherwise, but I am more of a power user and demand more from my machines. I only have Vista on the Thinkpad laptop; all of the rest of the machines are XP or Mac OS. If you need specifics, let me know. jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nightingale, Noel" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > Jack: > > I was disappointed to hear about your experiences with Vista and JAWS as I > am about to be "upgraded" to Vista. Any chance your experience is > isolated or are you aware of others with the same bad experiences? > > Noel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Jack Chen > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:35 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > > Rod > > I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability. I took > the NY and NJ bars with one. If you do decide to get one, I recommend > asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been > pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my > license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). > > One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for > typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops. > Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard > though. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > > >> My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to >> take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot >> it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this >> thing >> running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick >> recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't >> remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for >> all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones >> are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! >> >> I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about >> purchasing them. >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, J.D. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Keith Vick" >> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM >> Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >>> have >>> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >>> applicability >>> to ADA - Employment. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Keith Vick >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com > From johnrsheehan at yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 01:42:09 2009 From: johnrsheehan at yahoo.com (John Sheehan) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <167185.40101.qm@web53806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> At the recent NB convention, there was a lot of talk about Jaws - the consensus was XP or WIndows 7, which was getting very good reviews. If you can avoid Vista, for a whole host of reasons of which Jaws compatibility is only one, most folk I know would say avoid it and either stay with XP or jump to Windows 7.   Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ Residence: 53 E 83rd St New York, NY 10028 Room Phone: 212 606-3420 Cell: 646 853-1820 Blog: www.frjohnsj.blogspot.com Office: Xavier Society for the Blind 154 E. 23rd St NYC 10010 212 473-7800, ext 119 Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by searching the Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! Free for you - and money for us! Thank you. ________________________________ From: "Nightingale, Noel" To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:41:12 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar Jack: I was disappointed to hear about your experiences with Vista and JAWS as I am about to be "upgraded" to Vista.  Any chance your experience is isolated or are you aware of others with the same bad experiences? Noel -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack Chen Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:35 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar Rod I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability.  I took the NY and NJ bars with one.  If you do decide to get one, I recommend asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops.  Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to > take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot > it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing > running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick > recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't > remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for > all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones > are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! > > I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about > purchasing them. > > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Vick" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >> have >> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >> applicability >> to ADA - Employment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/johnrsheehan%40yahoo.com From roddj12 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 15 02:00:26 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:00:26 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar References: Message-ID: Thanks, Jack. I actually got an Hp mini netbook. The keyboard layout is 90 percent the same as the one I am currently using on my hp laptop. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Chen" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > Oh gosh, don't do it if you can help it. If you have to, make sure you > have Jaws 10. XP is far far far more stable with Jaws. Others might tell > you otherwise, but I am more of a power user and demand more from my > machines. I only have Vista on the Thinkpad laptop; all of the rest of the > machines are XP or Mac OS. If you need specifics, let me know. > > jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:41 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > > >> Jack: >> >> I was disappointed to hear about your experiences with Vista and JAWS as >> I am about to be "upgraded" to Vista. Any chance your experience is >> isolated or are you aware of others with the same bad experiences? >> >> Noel >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Jack Chen >> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:35 PM >> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar >> >> Rod >> >> I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability. I took >> the NY and NJ bars with one. If you do decide to get one, I recommend >> asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been >> pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my >> license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). >> >> One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for >> typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops. >> Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard >> though. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rod Alcidonis" >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM >> Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar >> >> >>> My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it >>> to >>> take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble >>> shoot >>> it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this >>> thing >>> running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick >>> recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't >>> remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance >>> for >>> all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small >>> ones >>> are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! >>> >>> I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about >>> purchasing them. >>> >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, J.D. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Keith Vick" >>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >>>> have >>>> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >>>> applicability >>>> to ADA - Employment. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Keith Vick >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40hotmail.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 02:27:59 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB ) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:27:59 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Message-ID: <001201ca04f3$e36b8940$aa429bc0$@com> Greetings All! I've found the emails that I've been receiving from this group to be very informative and fruitful. I'm glad I joined the group. I am currently seeking work as a full time or freelance paralegal. I reside in Houston, Texas. I've attached my resume in case you or anyone you know could use some assistance. Please feel free to contact me. Thanks! William -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: William Burley Resume.1.doc Type: application/msword Size: 41472 bytes Desc: not available URL: From angie.matney at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 02:57:10 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:57:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar In-Reply-To: <167185.40101.qm@web53806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <167185.40101.qm@web53806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4a5d4588.02015a0a.64e2.ffffadcf@mx.google.com> I think this is true. When the IT guy at my law school saw my netbook, he said, "That's one way to avoid Vista!" Blind people are not the only ones who want to get around it. Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John Sheehan Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:42 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar At the recent NB convention, there was a lot of talk about Jaws - the consensus was XP or WIndows 7, which was getting very good reviews. If you can avoid Vista, for a whole host of reasons of which Jaws compatibility is only one, most folk I know would say avoid it and either stay with XP or jump to Windows 7.   Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ Residence: 53 E 83rd St New York, NY 10028 Room Phone: 212 606-3420 Cell: 646 853-1820 Blog: www.frjohnsj.blogspot.com Office: Xavier Society for the Blind 154 E. 23rd St NYC 10010 212 473-7800, ext 119 Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by searching the Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! Free for you - and money for us! Thank you. ________________________________ From: "Nightingale, Noel" To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:41:12 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar Jack: I was disappointed to hear about your experiences with Vista and JAWS as I am about to be "upgraded" to Vista.  Any chance your experience is isolated or are you aware of others with the same bad experiences? Noel -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack Chen Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:35 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar Rod I have had good experiences with Thinkpads and their reliability.  I took the NY and NJ bars with one.  If you do decide to get one, I recommend asking for Windows XP as my experiences with Jaws and Vista have been pretty dismal in terms of Jaws crashing randomly and complaining that my license has expired (even though I have a fully authorized version). One other option you might try is to use an external USB keyboard for typing as I find them to be faster than the cramped keyboards on laptops.  Check with the bar examiners before you rely on an external keyboard though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: [blindlaw] laptop for the bar > My current laptop is acting out, and I am increasingly not trusting it to > take two bar exams in three weeks, and I don't have time to trouble shoot > it. I have resolved to purchasing another laptop. I cannot risk this thing > running slow and causes me to lose time on the exams. Any quick > recommendations please? I need a fast machine: the small ones (don't > remember how they are called), or a robust machine. Thanks an advance for > all contributions. I am a little worried at this point. If the small ones > are indeed reliable, I might just get one! Please help! > > I remember there was some discussions on the list recently about > purchasing them. > > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Vick" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:30 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] Supreme court Gross and the ADA > > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if any of the esteemed colleagues of this mailing list >> have >> any remarks regarding the decision in Gross (08-441) and its >> applicability >> to ADA - Employment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jackchenonline%40h otmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 0ed.gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/johnrsheehan%40yah oo.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma il.com From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 15 16:16:18 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:16:18 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind Paralegal In-Reply-To: <018c01ca0119$e12048c0$a360da40$@com> References: <018c01ca0119$e12048c0$a360da40$@com> Message-ID: <1E9CD16CC5C0479C8DD73CE23B02AF44@spike> I am a blind free lance paralegal in California. Becoming a paralegal was a career change after being a social worker for about 25 years. The important part of freelancing is networking in all possible areas. You might want to contact me off list for additional details and discussion. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "WB " To: "BlindLaw" Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:49 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Blind Paralegal > Hello group! I am a new member to the mailing list. I was very excited > to > come across you guys in the google search I did. > > > > I have been a paralegal for eight years and lost my sight about a year and > a > half ago. I have found it very hard to find employment in the legal > field. > I'm in the process of wanting to freelance but have no idea as to how to > get > this started. I live in Houston, Texas. > > > > Do any of you have ideas to suggest? > > > > I've worked in the areas of social security disability, ERISA, HIPAA, > labor > and employment, civil litigation, products liability, contracts, business > formation, etc. > > > > Thanks ahead for any help. > > > > William > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From msnunez at stanford.edu Wed Jul 15 18:20:25 2009 From: msnunez at stanford.edu (Michael S. Nunez) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:20:25 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Invitation to National Association of Law Students wtih Disabilities Annual Keynote Dinner Message-ID: <2a6649930907151120y1515a010kb4309e947623e0c0@mail.gmail.com> Dear NFB Blind Lawyers, You are cordially invited to the National Association of Law Students with Disabilities’ (NALSWD’s) third annual keynote dinner in Crystal City, Virginia. NALSWD is a coalition of law students dedicated to disability advocacy and the achievement of equal access, inclusion, diversity, and non-discrimination in legal education and the legal profession. NALSWD was formed to facilitate a sustained community for law students with disabilities to seek support and professional advice as they navigate law school and the legal profession. This year, we have the privilege and honor to welcome Christine M. Griffin, Vice Chair of the Equal Employment Opportunity commission (EEOC) to deliver our keynote address. NALSWD’s keynote dinner will be held at 7 PM on Saturday, August 8. Our dinner is an excellent opportunity to network with others who are interested in disability rights and cultivating a more diverse bar. We hope you will join us as we strive to build partnerships and alliances within the disability community and legal profession. Ms. Griffin is highly accomplished. She has worked extensively in labor and employment law positions in both government and the private sector. Most recently, she held the position of Commissioner at the EEOC from 2006 to 2009, where she launched the Leadership for the Employment of Americans with Disabilities (LEAD) initiative to contend with the substantial underemployment of people with disabilities in the federal government. Prior to that, she served as the Executive Director of the Disability Law Center in Boston from 1996 to 2005 and as an Attorney Advisor to the former Vice Chair of the EEOC, Paul M. 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Glad to know I got it fixed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie Ortoleva" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Test > Got it. > > s.... > At 06:44 PM 7/18/2009, you wrote: >>Recent email repair, this is a test >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>blindlaw: >>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/womankind%40earthlink.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Jul 22 17:11:51 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. 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From JFreeh at nfb.org Thu Jul 23 08:42:39 2009 From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh, Jessica) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:42:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind and Blind Business Owner File Complaint with Small Business Administration Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Chris Danielsen Director of Public Relations National Federation of the Blind (410) 659-9314, extension 2330 (410) 262-1281 (Cell) cdanielsen at nfb.org National Federation of the Blind and Blind Business Owner File Complaint with Small Business Administration SBA's Inaccessible Web Site Discriminates Against the Blind Baltimore, Maryland (July 22, 2009): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's oldest and largest organization of blind people and the leading advocate for equal access by the blind to information technology, and Virgil Stinnett, a blind business owner from Honolulu, Hawaii, filed an administrative complaint today with the Small Business Administration (SBA). The complaint asserts that the SBA's Web site violates Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act because it is inaccessible to blind people who use text-to-speech screen access technology or Braille displays to access information on the Internet. Because of the inaccessibility of the SBA Web site, blind people cannot fill out forms on the site or take online courses offered by the SBA. Mr. Stinnett was unable to apply for certification under Section 8(a) of the Small Business Act because of the inaccessibility of the Web site. Section 8(a) certification would provide Mr. Stinnett's business with access to federal and private procurement markets. Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: "Blind Americans have the same dreams, the same goals, and the same entrepreneurial spirit as all other Americans. If we are to have equal access to the tools and techniques needed to be effective business owners and to compete on terms of equality with our sighted peers, we must have equal access to the resources offered on the SBA Web site and other government sites. The National Federation of the Blind demands equality for blind business owners and will tolerate nothing less." Virgil Stinnett, owner of Good News HI, a business providing military dining services, said: "As a blind entrepreneur, access to the SBA Web site is critical in order for me to use its programs and services and expand my business. The fact that I could not access the Web site has cost me time and resources that I would not have needed to expend if I had been able to use the site like everyone else. I hope the action we are taking today will prompt the SBA to take immediate steps so that all Americans, blind and sighted, have equal access to the programs, training, and resources that it provides." Complainants are represented by attorneys Daniel F. Goldstein and Allison L. Harper of Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP, 120 E. Baltimore Street, Suite 1700, Baltimore, MD 21202, (410) 962-1030, fax: (410) 385-0869, dfg at browngold.com, ah at browngold.com, www.browngold.com. ### From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Jul 23 14:30:25 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:30:25 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] for broad distribution Message-ID: <1498D081271340779156AFA8F10AAF7C@labarre> Greetings: We are very interested in talking to anyone who is blind/visually impaired and interested in pursuing a Doctor of Chiropractic degree from Palmer College of Chiropractic. We are also interested in talking to any blind/visually impaired employees who either work directly for or through a contractor to provide switchboard/communication services for the Veterans Administration. Finally, we are interested in speaking with anyone, blind/visually impaired, who is planning on attending law school, is currently an undergrad, and who plans on taking the LSAT either this fall or in the next year. Please contact me at the below information. Thanks, Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri Jul 24 03:24:38 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:24:38 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Looking for People Message-ID: Greetings: We are very interested in talking to anyone who is blind/visually impaired and interested in pursuing a Doctor of Chiropractic degree from Palmer College of Chiropractic. We are also interested in talking to any blind/visually impaired employees who either work directly for or through a contractor to provide switchboard/communication services for the Veterans Administration. Finally, we are interested in speaking with anyone, blind/visually impaired, who is planning on attending law school, is currently an undergrad, and who plans on taking the LSAT either this fall or in the next year. Please contact me at the below information. Thanks, Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri Jul 24 15:54:28 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:54:28 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Fw: NASA Presents Coins Flown in Space to National Federation of the Blind Message-ID: See the below release from NASA. For broad distribution. Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. ----- Original Message ----- From: "NASA News" To: "NASA News" Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:10 AM Subject: NASA Presents Coins Flown in Space to National Federation of the Blind > July 24, 2009 > > Stephanie Schierholz > Headquarters, Washington > 202-358-4997 > stephanie.schierholz at nasa.gov > > Chris Danielsen > National Federation of the Blind, Baltimore > 410-659-9314, ext. 2330 > cdanielsen at nfb.org > > MEDIA ADVISORY: M09-140 > > NASA PRESENTS COINS FLOWN IN SPACE TO NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND > > WASHINGTON -- During a ceremony July 31, senior NASA officials will > present the National Federation of the Blind with two Louis Braille > Bicentennial Silver Dollars that flew on space shuttle Atlantis's > mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in May 2009. Marc Maurer, > president of the National Federation of the Blind, will accept the > coins on behalf of the organization. The ceremony will take place at > 6 p.m. EDT at the Capitol Visitor Center in Washington. > > In celebration of the 200th anniversary of Louis Braille's birthday, > Congress authorized the minting of the 2009 Louis Braille > Bicentennial Silver Dollar. NASA flew one proof and one uncirculated > commemorative coin on the recent Hubble servicing mission. The coins > are the first to feature tactile, readable Braille, which enables the > blind to read and learn, just as Hubble allows people to learn about > the universe. > > NASA astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will speak at the celebratory > closing of the National Federation of the Blind's 2009 Youth Slam. At > the Youth Slam, 200 blind high school students from across the nation > will participate in five days of activities to help encourage the > blind youth of America to consider careers in science, technology, > engineering and mathematics. > > Reporters planning on attending the event must contact Chris Danielsen > at 410-659-9314, ext. 2330, or cdanielsen at nfb.org by 5 p.m. on July > 30. > > NASA and the National Federation of the Blind have been collaborating > for more than five years to inspire and engage blind students to lend > their unique talents to disciplines critical to the nation's > engineering, scientific and technical missions. > > NASA Television will broadcast a Video File of the event. For NASA TV > streaming video, schedules and downlink information, visit: > > > > http://www.nasa.gov/ntv > > > For more information about NASA's education programs, visit: > > > > http://www.nasa.gov/education > > > For more information about the Hubble Space Telescope, visit: > > > > http://www.nasa.gov/hubble > > > For more information about the National Federation of the Blind, > visit: > > > > http://www.nfb.org > > > -end- > > > > To subscribe to the list, send a message to: > hqnews-subscribe at mediaservices.nasa.gov > To remove your address from the list, send a message to: > hqnews-unsubscribe at mediaservices.nasa.gov > From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Jul 24 20:05:10 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:05:10 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: fw: 2010 Post Graduate Fellowships [1 Attachment] - Ref#20068101 Message-ID: For 2010 law school graduates ________________________________ From: Washington_MBAs at yahoogroups.com [mailto:Washington_MBAs at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicole McGrath Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:20 AM To: WA MBA listserv Subject: [Washington_MBAs] Fwd: fw: 2010 Post Graduate Fellowships [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Nicole McGrath included below] Dear MBA leader gurus, Please get the word out to your third-year law students that those with an interest in juvenile law or child advocacy work are encouraged to apply! They are also welcome to contact me for more information. Thanks! Nicole ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Nicole McGrath Date: Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:09 AM Subject: fw: 2010 Post Graduate Fellowships To: nicolemcgrath1 at gmail.com Nicole McGrath, Staff Attorney TeamChild 2731 Wetmore Ave., Suite 410 Everett, WA 98201 Phone: 425.258.3132 Fax: 425.259.2906 Email: nicole.mcgrath at teamchild.org ________________________________ From: "Jeannie Nist" Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:47 PM To: "Anne Lee" , "Andy Benjamin" , "Ann Carey" , "Beth Colgan" , "Carol Webster" , "Christie Hedman" , "Jeff Rounce" , "Julio Quan" , "Katie Steltor" , "Ken Odza" , "Sally Pritchard" , "Ted Greenblatt" , "Wendy Jacobson" , allmailusers at teamchild.org Subject: 2010 Post Graduate Fellowships Hi TeamChild, We are looking for law school students who are interested in applying for 2010 post graduate fellowships with us. Attached is the posting that we are distributing widely. Please feel free to share with anyone you think will be interested. Thanks! Jeannie Nist Staff Attorney 715 Tacoma Ave. S. Tacoma, WA 98402 (253) 274-0889 (direct) (253) 274-9929 (main) (253) 274-1888 (fax) www.teamchild.org NOTICE: This electronic communication and any attachments may contain privileged or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by email reply and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments without copying, transmitting or disclosing the contents. Thank you. From b75205 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 04:36:21 2009 From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:36:21 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind and Blind Business Owner File Complaint with Small Business Administration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK a cursory look at their forms and yes I can fix these. Who should I contact to solve this problem? I can make them work with free screen readers so the blind do not have to buy JAWS or Window Eyes to fill out the forms and I can do this in any language. I received a response from the Elections Assistance Commission (EAC) which was directed to my Congressman for my accessible voter registration form which was tested by AFB Tech to be accessible in JAWS, Window Eyes and free screen readers. Anne Taylor at the Jernigan Institute at the National Federation of the Blind has also tested my forms. The EAC claimed that they have an expert advisor with the AAPD who approved of their forms but this same person personally presented my forms to the EAC in October. So they are relying on his reputation but they don't take his advice! Also the EAC claims it is accessible on their website because they use the Plone system, which is an open-source database. Also, they pointed out that they were given a mandate by Congress to make voting accessible to the blind in 2003 to create their agency. The letter really didn't say much of anything about whether they would do anything about fixing the problem; they are going to stick with their forms. It seems to me to be a letter to tell the congressman that they have done all they can and that is that. In 2006 the EAC certified to Congress that the states were accessible to the blind in voter registration forms and they released billions of dollars to the states for the elections. The National Form was an image of a form until mid September 2008, 3 weeks after I sent them my forms. They did a bad job; there is content that is not accessible in the form and it is clear that they didn't test it with JAWS because the problems are obvious. They claimed in the letter that they had a volunteer test it with JAWS and that the form is as accessible as possible. So which is it, are the forms as accessible as possible or are they certified to be accessible to the blind in 2006 which released billions of dollars to the states? This letter was sent to a US Congressman in response to this inquiry. The EAC is run by the election officers of each state. The EAC concentrated their effort on election day, on voting machines and not on voter registration forms. But if you are not registered to vote you cannot use the accessible voting machines! Their form requires the blind to use the full version of JAWS to fill it out. Not all of the content is accessible and it requires the blind to draw a map of where they live and both of these requirements are literacy tests! Also you must buy JAWS to fill it out; that is a Poll Tax. Also they put alt text in two images which is a direct violation of section 508 regulations of the Rehabilitation Act. The font is small and that is a direct violation of the Help America Vote Act which created the EAC. And the form for South Carolina requires the applicant to state their race and if they do not do so the form will not be processed. That is a direct violation of the Voting Rights Act. The proper way to handle this is to make it voluntary, every other state makes it voluntary but not South Carolina. I made the Voter Registration form accessible because the laws for voting are far more extensive and affects states in terrible ways if they deny people the right to vote compared to ordinary accessibility law. You have all the advantages of the Voting Rights Act which enables the Integration laws of the Civil Rights Act, which has serious repercussions for the states, especially the 14th Amendment Section 2 which removes electors from the states when they deny a portion of their population the right to vote. There is a procedure and the US District Court in DC has to create a panel of Judges to hear these cases, with a direct appeal to the US Supreme Court. And they were required to be accessible in voter registration in 1973, so its been 36 years of non compliance. So I was wondering would a civil rights case on Voting Rights force the issue of compliance to ADA faster than fighting the SBA? Wouldn't it be far more comprehensive to enable accessibility across this nation, especially when you consider the consequences of the Voting Rights Act which directly threatens the sovereignty of each States, its Electors (members of Congress) and federal funding. The same laws put into effect to limit the sovereignty of the southern states after the civil war in Reconstruction! And of course the public can get behind the idea that the blind deserve access to voter registration, that they do not need literacy tests and poll taxes to register to vote. Having to buy the full version of JAWS to fill out a voter registration form is a Poll Tax! I contacted all the states, the elections officers in each state during the 2008 election trying to get them to be accessible. The State of Washington responded by claiming that they were not required to make voter registration accessible to the blind. So who should I contact to fix these problems? Sincerely. James G. Pepper From rumpole at roadrunner.com Sat Jul 25 17:30:50 2009 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:30:50 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind and Blind BusinessOwner File Complaint with Small Business Administration References: Message-ID: Hello Jim: Could you please contact me off list? My email is: rumpole at roadrunner.com I'd like to call youfor a short conversation. Ross A. Doerr ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Pepper" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind and Blind BusinessOwner File Complaint with Small Business Administration > OK a cursory look at their forms and yes I can fix these. Who should I > contact to solve this problem? I can make them work with free screen > readers so the blind do not have to buy JAWS or Window Eyes to fill out > the > forms and I can do this in any language. > > I received a response from the Elections Assistance Commission (EAC) which > was directed to my Congressman for my accessible voter registration form > which was tested by AFB Tech to be accessible in JAWS, Window Eyes and > free > screen readers. Anne Taylor at the Jernigan Institute at the National > Federation of the Blind has also tested my forms. The EAC claimed that > they > have an expert advisor with the AAPD who approved of their forms but this > same person personally presented my forms to the EAC in October. So they > are relying on his reputation but they don't take his advice! > > Also the EAC claims it is accessible on their website because they use the > Plone system, which is an open-source database. Also, they pointed out > that > they were given a mandate by Congress to make voting accessible to the > blind > in 2003 to create their agency. The letter really didn't say much of > anything about whether they would do anything about fixing the problem; > they > are going to stick with their forms. It seems to me to be a letter to tell > the congressman that they have done all they can and that is that. > > In 2006 the EAC certified to Congress that the states were accessible to > the > blind in voter registration forms > and they released billions of dollars to the states for the elections. > The > National Form was an image of a form until mid September 2008, 3 weeks > after > I sent them my forms. They did a bad job; there is content that is not > accessible in the form and it is clear that they didn't test it with JAWS > because the problems are obvious. They claimed in the letter that they > had > a volunteer test it with JAWS and that the form is as accessible as > possible. > > So which is it, are the forms as accessible as possible or are they > certified to be accessible to the blind in 2006 which released billions of > dollars to the states? This letter was sent to a US Congressman in > response > to this inquiry. The EAC is run by the election officers of each state. > The > EAC concentrated their effort on election day, on voting machines and not > on > voter registration forms. But if you are not registered to vote you cannot > use the accessible voting machines! > > Their form requires the blind to use the full version of JAWS to fill it > out. Not all of the content is accessible and it requires the blind to > draw > a map of where they live and both of these requirements are literacy > tests! Also you must buy JAWS to fill it out; that is a Poll Tax. > > Also they put alt text in two images which is a direct violation of > section > 508 regulations of the Rehabilitation Act. The font is small and that is > a > direct violation of the Help America Vote Act which created the EAC. And > the form for South Carolina requires the applicant to state their race and > if they do not do so the form will not be processed. That is a direct > violation of the Voting Rights Act. The proper way to handle this is to > make it voluntary, every other state makes it voluntary but not South > Carolina. > > I made the Voter Registration form accessible because the laws for voting > are far more extensive and affects states in terrible ways if they deny > people the right to vote compared to ordinary accessibility law. You have > all the advantages of the Voting Rights Act which enables the Integration > laws of the Civil Rights Act, which has serious repercussions for the > states, especially the 14th Amendment Section 2 which removes electors > from > the states when they deny a portion of their population the right to > vote. There is a procedure and the US District Court in DC has to create a > panel of Judges to hear these cases, with a direct appeal to the US > Supreme > Court. And they were required to be accessible in voter registration in > 1973, so its been 36 years of non compliance. > > So I was wondering would a civil rights case on Voting Rights force the > issue of compliance to ADA faster than fighting the SBA? Wouldn't it be > far > more comprehensive to enable accessibility across this nation, especially > when you consider the consequences of the Voting Rights Act which directly > threatens the sovereignty of each States, its Electors (members of > Congress) and federal funding. The same laws put into effect to limit the > sovereignty of the southern states after the civil war in Reconstruction! > > And of course the public can get behind the idea that the blind deserve > access to voter registration, that they do not need literacy tests and > poll > taxes to register to vote. Having to buy the full version of JAWS to fill > out a voter registration form is a Poll Tax! > > I contacted all the states, the elections officers in each state during > the > 2008 election trying to get them to be accessible. The State of > Washington > responded by claiming that they were not required to make voter > registration > accessible to the blind. > > So who should I contact to fix these problems? > > Sincerely. > > James G. Pepper > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com From mruniverse30 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 23:42:18 2009 From: mruniverse30 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:42:18 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Houston Freelance Paralegal Message-ID: <422c01ca0d81$8f429c50$adc7d4f0$@com> I hope everybody is having a great and relaxing weekend. I just wanted to let you all know that I am a paralegal with nine years of experience that is a freelancer. If you or anyone you should know of need assistance, please feel free to email me for more information. Thanks and take care! William From womankind at earthlink.net Mon Jul 27 02:45:44 2009 From: womankind at earthlink.net (Stephanie Ortoleva) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:45:44 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] mentoring event at the U.S. Department of State In-Reply-To: <014e01c8b50f$8982b280$0200000a@labarre> References: <014e01c8b50f$8982b280$0200000a@labarre> Message-ID: Dear Law Student, I am an employee at the Department of State, who happens to be blind, and I represent the leadership of a recently-formed employee affinity group, the Disability Action Group (DAG). Among others, my colleague, Somer Bessire-Briers, works with me on DAG matters and represents the Special Emphasis Program for Individuals with Disabilities in the Office of Civil Rights (S/OCR). I work for the Chief Information Officer (CIO) in the Information Resource Management (IRM) Bureau. We are making plans for what we hope will be an informative and interesting Disability Employment Awareness Month (DEAM) program at the Department of State on Wednesday, October 21, 2009. We are soliciting up to four law students with targeted disabilities who would be very interested and who can commit by 8/6/2009 to participating in an all-day event at the Department. Four to eight undergraduate or graduate students with targeted disabilities are expected to participate as well. As you can well imagine, we will need a committed group of roughly twelve student participants in total and then plenty of time to match them with twelve Department professionals and to plan program events and to make all the necessary preparations. Without a sufficient number of committed participants and sufficient planning/preparation time, we will have to cancel this event and perhaps try in the future. If for some other reason(s) we have to cancel this event, we will inform you soon after we know. One purpose of this day’s event is to provide an opportunity for student participants to network with Department professionals with and without disabilities and to learn about the Department’s history, and mission, about careers in the Civil Service or Foreign Service, and about intern and other hiring/recruitment programs at the Department. However, this event is not intended as a job fair and that we are not committing to extending any job offers to participants specifically prior to, during, nor immediately after this event. All participants must be U.S. citizens, full-time undergraduate or graduate/law students with at least a 3.0 G.P.A. on a 4.0 scale, and have a targeted disability. All participants will need to arrange and pay for their own transportation to and from the Department. However, lunch is expected to be provided to student participants. While the Department's mission is one of foreign affairs, the Department's workforce consists of thousands of employees in either the Civil Service (CS) or in the Foreign Service (FS), and these employees’ educations and professions vary widely. Accordingly, student participants who are interested in or pursuing any of a variety of studies or professions are welcome, including but not limited to the following: Business Management, Economics, Finance, Human Resource Management, Information Technology/Computer Science, International Affairs/Relations, Law, Physics, Political Science, Psychology, Public Affairs, Public Diplomacy, Social Work. More information should be available off of http://careers.state.gov. Tentative Agenda 8:15-3:45 8:15-8:45 – Arrive at the Department of State Diplomatic Entrance at 2201 C Street NW and Meet Department employees who will greet student participants and escort them to the first meeting place. 9-10:15 – Intros, Brief Presentation on Department's History and Mission, & Internships/Possible Careers Briefing (covering CS and FS). 10:30-noon – Shadow Department employee partner Whilst she/he performs job-related task(s). 12:15-1 – Lunch (Perhaps video teleconference (VTC) given by senior FS employee with disability from Post.) 1:15-3:00 – Briefings from at least members of Human Resources (HR), Information Resource Management (IRM), the Secretary's Office of Civil Rights (S/OCR), and the Disability Action Group (DAG) regarding Department Programs/Services for employees with disabilities. 3:15-3:45 – Wrap-up, feedback/program evaluation, goodbyes, escorts Notes 1. As needed, we will plan on/schedule intermittent five-minute or so breaks. 2. Officials at the highest level of the Department will be invited to but not guaranteed to make a guest appearance. 3. Student participants will need to be escorted throughout the day, as all visitors without Department security clearance are required to be. 4. Any special needs (e.g., medical, dietary, or service-animal related) and requests for reasonable accommodation will need to be communicated clearly and well in advanced. We will do our best to provide reading material in an accessible electronic format; we may not have the time/resources to provide Braille versions. please provide a CV or resume and a brief -- no more than one-page -- explanation of why you are interested in participating in this event. All materials need to be e-mailed in an accessible electronic format (e.g., accessible HTML, MS Word, RTF, TXT). Please do not e-mail social security numbers, but include full name and contact information. Please e-mail your materials to schaferpp at state.gov] by August 6, 2009. Somer and I (at least) will make our decisions and e-mail or call each selected participant by late August. If at all possible, we are hoping to select two impressive men and two impressive women law students. Please e-mail or call me or Somer with any questions. Thanks, and Live well! ---Paul & Somer ******************* Paul P. Schafer, DAG Council Administrator (Chair) Information Resource Management (IRM) Bureau U.S. Department of State, SA3 2121 Virginia Avenue N.W., RM 4148 Washington, D. C. 20037 Voice: 202.663.0223 (ext. 30223) E-mail: schaferpp at state.gov Somer Bessire-Briers Office of Civil Rights Special Emphasis Program Individuals with Disabilities 202-647-2321 (ph) From stephanie_enyart at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 03:22:43 2009 From: stephanie_enyart at yahoo.com (Stephanie Enyart) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:22:43 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] mentoring event at the U.S. Department of State Message-ID: <5BFC0B9C5B754E23948E9DAECC747F06@DF5R2QD1> Please share with your networks, Stephanie ***** Dear Law Student, I am an employee at the Department of State, who happens to be blind, and I represent the leadership of a recently-formed employee affinity group, the Disability Action Group (DAG). Among others, my colleague, Somer Bessire-Briers, works with me on DAG matters and represents the Special Emphasis Program for Individuals with Disabilities in the Office of Civil Rights (S/OCR). I work for the Chief Information Officer (CIO) in the Information Resource Management (IRM) Bureau. We are making plans for what we hope will be an informative and interesting Disability Employment Awareness Month (DEAM) program at the Department of State on Wednesday, October 21, 2009. We are soliciting up to four law students with targeted disabilities who would be very interested and who can commit by 8/6/2009 to participating in an all-day event at the Department. Four to eight undergraduate or graduate students with targeted disabilities are expected to participate as well. As you can well imagine, we will need a committed group of roughly twelve student participants in total and then plenty of time to match them with twelve Department professionals and to plan program events and to make all the necessary preparations. Without a sufficient number of committed participants and sufficient planning/preparation time, we will have to cancel this event and perhaps try in the future. If for some other reason(s) we have to cancel this event, we will inform you soon after we know. One purpose of this day's event is to provide an opportunity for student participants to network with Department professionals with and without disabilities and to learn about the Department's history, and mission, about careers in the Civil Service or Foreign Service, and about intern and other hiring/recruitment programs at the Department. However, this event is not intended as a job fair and that we are not committing to extending any job offers to participants specifically prior to, during, nor immediately after this event. All participants must be U.S. citizens, full-time undergraduate or graduate/law students with at least a 3.0 G.P.A. on a 4.0 scale, and have a targeted disability. All participants will need to arrange and pay for their own transportation to and from the Department. However, lunch is expected to be provided to student participants. While the Department's mission is one of foreign affairs, the Department's workforce consists of thousands of employees in either the Civil Service (CS) or in the Foreign Service (FS), and these employees' educations and professions vary widely. Accordingly, student participants who are interested in or pursuing any of a variety of studies or professions are welcome, including but not limited to the following: Business Management, Economics, Finance, Human Resource Management, Information Technology/Computer Science, International Affairs/Relations, Law, Physics, Political Science, Psychology, Public Affairs, Public Diplomacy, Social Work. More information should be available off of http://careers.state.gov. Tentative Agenda 8:15-3:45 8:15-8:45 - Arrive at the Department of State Diplomatic Entrance at 2201 C Street NW and Meet Department employees who will greet student participants and escort them to the first meeting place. 9-10:15 - Intros, Brief Presentation on Department's History and Mission, & Internships/Possible Careers Briefing (covering CS and FS). 10:30-noon - Shadow Department employee partner Whilst she/he performs job-related task(s). 12:15-1 - Lunch (Perhaps video teleconference (VTC) given by senior FS employee with disability from Post.) 1:15-3:00 - Briefings from at least members of Human Resources (HR), Information Resource Management (IRM), the Secretary's Office of Civil Rights (S/OCR), and the Disability Action Group (DAG) regarding Department Programs/Services for employees with disabilities. 3:15-3:45 - Wrap-up, feedback/program evaluation, goodbyes, escorts. Notes 1. As needed, we will plan on/schedule intermittent five-minute or so breaks. 2. Officials at the highest level of the Department will be invited to but not guaranteed to make a guest appearance. 3. Student participants will need to be escorted throughout the day, as all visitors without Department security clearance are required to be. 4. Any special needs (e.g., medical, dietary, or service-animal related) and requests for reasonable accommodation will need to be communicated clearly and well in advanced. We will do our best to provide reading material in an accessible electronic format; we may not have the time/resources to provide Braille versions. please provide a CV or resume and a brief -- no more than one-page -- explanation of why you are interested in participating in this event. All materials need to be e-mailed in an accessible electronic format (e.g., accessible HTML, MS Word, RTF, TXT). Please do not e-mail social security numbers, but include full name and contact information. Please e-mail your materials to schaferpp at state.gov] by August 6, 2009. Somer and I (at least) will make our decisions and e-mail or call each selected participant by late August. If at all possible, we are hoping to select two impressive men and two impressive women law students. Please e-mail or call me or Somer with any questions. Thanks, and Live well! ---Paul & Somer ******************* Paul P. Schafer, DAG Council Administrator (Chair) Information Resource Management (IRM) Bureau U.S. Department of State, SA3 2121 Virginia Avenue N.W., RM 4148 Washington, D. C. 20037 Voice: 202.663.0223 (ext. 30223) E-mail: schaferpp at state.gov Somer Bessire-Briers Office of Civil Rights Special Emphasis Program Individuals with Disabilities 202-647-2321 (ph) From r.g.munro at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 10:42:45 2009 From: r.g.munro at gmail.com (Robert Munro) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:42:45 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers Message-ID: Friends and colleagues, I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at UNC. This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his chambers. Because I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did not have to come out of the judge's budget. Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. Onward! Rob Munro From mruniverse30 at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 15:04:11 2009 From: mruniverse30 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:04:11 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Health Fair Message-ID: <009201ca0ecb$840a2dd0$8c1e8970$@com> Good morning! I hope this e-mail finds you doing well. My paralegal association, Houston Metropolitan Paralegal Association, is hosting a free health fair on Saturday, August 15, 2009 at the Power Center here in Houston, Texas. If you or anyone you know of may be interested in attending, please forward the attached flyer with all the pertinent information. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me via e-mail or by phone at 713.614.3322. Thanks! Warm Regards, William -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: HMPA Health Fair.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 130179 bytes Desc: not available URL: From keith-vick at msn.com Tue Jul 28 01:57:44 2009 From: keith-vick at msn.com (Keith Vick) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:57:44 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Rob, Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited on the advice I can give you. But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your question. Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, statement. Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship you want. Warmest regards, Keith Vick -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Munro Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers Friends and colleagues, I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at UNC. This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his chambers. Because I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did not have to come out of the judge's budget. Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. Onward! Rob Munro _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%40msn.c om From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Tue Jul 28 02:07:01 2009 From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:07:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Reminder, Texas Hold'em Tristate Tournament Message-ID: <20090728020701.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> Attention On-Line Poker Players We are holding another Texas Hold'em tournament. The proceeds will be split among three affiliates, Indiana, Maryland, and New York. We will have the usual cash prizes for those who end the evening with the most chips, or in this instance, "KNFB Reader Mobiles". In addition, each winner will receive a donation to his or her local chapter or division. When? This Sunday, August 2, from 3:00 PM to 9:00 PM eastern time. To sign up go to www.nfbny.org./tristate The cost is only $20 for up to six hours of fun and a possible cash prize for both you and your chapter or division. Happy poker playing! Ray Wayne From jsorozco at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 05:43:41 2009 From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:43:41 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Reminder, Texas Hold'em Tristate Tournament In-Reply-To: <20090728020701.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <8948E128A5634932BA2C5CB064B6632A@Rufus> The correct link is: http://nfbny.org/tristate.htm Joe Orozco "A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the crowd."--Max Lucado -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ray wayne Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:07 PM To: chapter-presidents at nfbnet.org; blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: dandrews at visi.com Subject: [blindlaw] Reminder, Texas Hold'em Tristate Tournament Attention On-Line Poker Players We are holding another Texas Hold'em tournament. The proceeds will be split among three affiliates, Indiana, Maryland, and New York. We will have the usual cash prizes for those who end the evening with the most chips, or in this instance, "KNFB Reader Mobiles". In addition, each winner will receive a donation to his or her local chapter or division. When? This Sunday, August 2, from 3:00 PM to 9:00 PM eastern time. To sign up go to www.nfbny.org./tristate The cost is only $20 for up to six hours of fun and a possible cash prize for both you and your chapter or division. Happy poker playing! Ray Wayne _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jsoroz co%40gmail.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4283 (20090727) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From r.g.munro at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 10:49:03 2009 From: r.g.munro at gmail.com (Robert Munro) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:49:03 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Keith, Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and inexpensive way to resolve that issue. Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. Thanks again for your thoughts. Onward! Rob Munro -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Keith Vick Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers Hi Rob, Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited on the advice I can give you. But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your question. Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, statement. Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship you want. Warmest regards, Keith Vick -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Munro Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers Friends and colleagues, I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at UNC. This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his chambers. Because I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did not have to come out of the judge's budget. Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. Onward! Rob Munro _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%40msn.c om _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. com From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 28 16:22:46 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:22:46 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Message-ID: As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after all selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't accentuate the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a clerk here is the product or commodity. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > Keith, > > Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information that > will > help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide against me because I > can't drive, that there is a simple and inexpensive way to resolve that > issue. > > Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or not, > I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. > > Thanks again for your thoughts. > > > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Keith Vick > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > Hi Rob, > > Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've > always > liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me that most > judges > wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their decision. Since I have no > judicial clerkship experience, I am limited on the advice I can give you. > > But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the > blind > (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns out to be > true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your question. > > Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above > proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, > statement. > > Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship you > want. > > Warmest regards, > > Keith Vick > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Robert Munro > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM > To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > Friends and colleagues, > > I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at UNC. > This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I > worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he had > to > hold court in cities other than the one where he had his chambers. > Because > I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. > > Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a blind > person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge to pass me > over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to have something to > tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. > > Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state > governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind > employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did not > have to come out of the judge's budget. > > Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%40msn.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From r.g.munro at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 15:06:52 2009 From: r.g.munro at gmail.com (Robert Munro) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:06:52 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Message-ID: Chuck, You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. I just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem the XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in going over my application materials one more time. Onward! Rob Munro -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after all selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't accentuate the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a clerk here is the product or commodity. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > Keith, > > Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information > that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide > against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and > inexpensive way to resolve that issue. > > Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or > not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. > > Thanks again for your thoughts. > > > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Keith Vick > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > Hi Rob, > > Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've > always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me > that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their > decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited > on the advice I can give you. > > But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the > blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns > out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your > question. > > Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above > proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, > statement. > > Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship > you want. > > Warmest regards, > > Keith Vick > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] > On Behalf Of Robert Munro > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM > To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > Friends and colleagues, > > I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at UNC. > This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I > worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he > had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his > chambers. > Because > I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. > > Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a > blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge > to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to > have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. > > Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state > governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind > employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did > not have to come out of the judge's budget. > > Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%4 > 0msn.c > om > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40s > bcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. com From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 29 15:58:19 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:58:19 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Message-ID: Unfortunately, I have not heard of drivers being paid for by state agencies. In the late 70's with a bachelor's degree while working for a community agency I was approached by the Michigan Commission for the Blind representative to take a position as a rehab counselor. In that position I would have had to cover a territory consisting of five counties, most of which were rural and would have had to pay a driver myself on a $12,000 per year salary. This salary was only about $2000 more than what I was making in my existing employment. Needless to say I turned down the position for many reasons including not only the economic foolishness of this but the subtle expectation that because I was blind I should be working with blind people since they paid a large of my expenses for college. I have worked in many settings and I have never had the luxury of a driver that was paid for by an employer. In certain instances I was reimbursed somewhat for expenses for transportation. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > Chuck, > > You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. > I > just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the > driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem the > XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments > about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. > > Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in going > over my application materials one more time. > > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered > clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments > as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after > all > selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't > accentuate > the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a > clerk here is the product or commodity. > Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal > 1237 P Street > Fresno ca 93721 > 559-266-9237 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Munro" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > >> Keith, >> >> Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information >> that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide >> against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and >> inexpensive way to resolve that issue. >> >> Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or >> not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. >> >> Thanks again for your thoughts. >> >> >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Keith Vick >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Hi Rob, >> >> Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've >> always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me >> that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their >> decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited >> on the advice I can give you. >> >> But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the >> blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns >> out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your >> question. >> >> Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above >> proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, >> statement. >> >> Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship >> you want. >> >> Warmest regards, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Robert Munro >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM >> To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Friends and colleagues, >> >> I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at >> UNC. >> This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I >> worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he >> had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his >> chambers. >> Because >> I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. >> >> Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a >> blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge >> to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to >> have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. >> >> Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state >> governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind >> employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did >> not have to come out of the judge's budget. >> >> Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%4 >> 0msn.c >> om >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40s >> bcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 29 16:10:49 2009 From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:10:49 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] off-topic question References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Message-ID: <16AD5C97DB354734AFA1E8736137974D@DANELLIEVANDAWN> Are there any attorneys out there that are well-versed in questions related to social security disability resulting from blindness, and particularly regarding the significant gainful activity issues? Please let me hear from you. Dan McBride Texas Blind Attorney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > Chuck, > > You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. > I > just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the > driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem the > XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments > about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. > > Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in going > over my application materials one more time. > > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered > clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments > as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after > all > selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't > accentuate > the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a > clerk here is the product or commodity. > Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal > 1237 P Street > Fresno ca 93721 > 559-266-9237 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Munro" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > >> Keith, >> >> Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information >> that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide >> against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and >> inexpensive way to resolve that issue. >> >> Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or >> not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. >> >> Thanks again for your thoughts. >> >> >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Keith Vick >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Hi Rob, >> >> Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've >> always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me >> that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their >> decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited >> on the advice I can give you. >> >> But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the >> blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns >> out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your >> question. >> >> Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above >> proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, >> statement. >> >> Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship >> you want. >> >> Warmest regards, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Robert Munro >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM >> To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Friends and colleagues, >> >> I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at >> UNC. >> This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I >> worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he >> had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his >> chambers. >> Because >> I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. >> >> Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a >> blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge >> to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to >> have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. >> >> Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state >> governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind >> employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did >> not have to come out of the judge's budget. >> >> Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%4 >> 0msn.c >> om >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40s >> bcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 18:14:24 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:14:24 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] off-topic question In-Reply-To: <16AD5C97DB354734AFA1E8736137974D@DANELLIEVANDAWN> References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> <16AD5C97DB354734AFA1E8736137974D@DANELLIEVANDAWN> Message-ID: <002d01ca1078$6bd91830$438b4890$@com> Dan, I'm not an attorney but have done work in this area. If you'd like, please contact me off list and we can figure out what you need. William -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:11 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] off-topic question Are there any attorneys out there that are well-versed in questions related to social security disability resulting from blindness, and particularly regarding the significant gainful activity issues? Please let me hear from you. Dan McBride Texas Blind Attorney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > Chuck, > > You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. > I > just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the > driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem the > XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments > about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. > > Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in going > over my application materials one more time. > > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered > clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments > as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after > all > selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't > accentuate > the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a > clerk here is the product or commodity. > Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal > 1237 P Street > Fresno ca 93721 > 559-266-9237 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Munro" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > >> Keith, >> >> Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information >> that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide >> against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and >> inexpensive way to resolve that issue. >> >> Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or >> not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. >> >> Thanks again for your thoughts. >> >> >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Keith Vick >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Hi Rob, >> >> Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've >> always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me >> that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their >> decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited >> on the advice I can give you. >> >> But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the >> blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns >> out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your >> question. >> >> Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above >> proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, >> statement. >> >> Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship >> you want. >> >> Warmest regards, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Robert Munro >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM >> To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Friends and colleagues, >> >> I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at >> UNC. >> This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I >> worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he >> had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his >> chambers. >> Because >> I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. >> >> Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a >> blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge >> to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to >> have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. >> >> Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state >> governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind >> employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did >> not have to come out of the judge's budget. >> >> Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%4 >> 0msn.c >> om >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40s >> bcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal .net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 29 18:54:22 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:54:22 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] off-topic question In-Reply-To: <16AD5C97DB354734AFA1E8736137974D@DANELLIEVANDAWN> References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> <16AD5C97DB354734AFA1E8736137974D@DANELLIEVANDAWN> Message-ID: <02872EC76075451AB9057EE3A3F7641A@spike> I have had some experience dealing with this issue. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:10 AM Subject: [blindlaw] off-topic question > Are there any attorneys out there that are well-versed in > questions related to social security disability resulting from blindness, > and particularly regarding the significant gainful activity issues? > Please let me hear from you. > > Dan McBride > Texas Blind Attorney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Munro" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:06 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > >> Chuck, >> >> You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. >> I >> just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the >> driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem >> the >> XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments >> about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. >> >> Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in >> going >> over my application materials one more time. >> >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM >> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered >> clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your >> accomplishments >> as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after >> all >> selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't >> accentuate >> the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a >> clerk here is the product or commodity. >> Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal >> 1237 P Street >> Fresno ca 93721 >> 559-266-9237 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Munro" >> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> >>> Keith, >>> >>> Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information >>> that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide >>> against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and >>> inexpensive way to resolve that issue. >>> >>> Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or >>> not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. >>> >>> Thanks again for your thoughts. >>> >>> >>> >>> Onward! >>> >>> Rob Munro >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>> On Behalf Of Keith Vick >>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM >>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >>> >>> Hi Rob, >>> >>> Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've >>> always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me >>> that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their >>> decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited >>> on the advice I can give you. >>> >>> But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the >>> blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns >>> out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your >>> question. >>> >>> Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above >>> proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, >>> statement. >>> >>> Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship >>> you want. >>> >>> Warmest regards, >>> >>> Keith Vick >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>> On Behalf Of Robert Munro >>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM >>> To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >>> >>> Friends and colleagues, >>> >>> I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at >>> UNC. >>> This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I >>> worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he >>> had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his >>> chambers. >>> Because >>> I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. >>> >>> Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a >>> blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge >>> to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to >>> have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent >>> this. >>> >>> Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state >>> governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind >>> employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did >>> not have to come out of the judge's budget. >>> >>> Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. >>> >>> Onward! >>> >>> Rob Munro >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%4 >>> 0msn.c >>> om >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. >>> com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40s >>> bcglobal.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dlmlaw%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From angie.matney at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 20:33:00 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:33:00 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Message-ID: <4a70b1fe.1921720a.41c6.ffff851f@mx.google.com> Hi all, Rob: I don't know that a state agency would pay a driver to transport you and the judge over the course of a year. Perhaps they would do something like this in limited summer employment situations. If I were making a case to VR to support this, I would argue that 1) the clerkship is not a permanent position; 2) obtaining a clerkship will give you an advantage in the job market; and 3) your ability to obtain a clerkship is limited if you cannot provide transportation. I think you'll probably be OK, though; there have been other blind clerks, and I don't think judges see this as an essential function of a clerk. I agree, though, that simply making arguments based on "fairness" is theoretically OK but not likely to get you very far in practice. Chuck: It's unfortunate that you were expected to pay a driver $12,000 in order to hold a state job. I think things are different nowadays as far as state employees are concerned. I had a driver when I worked as a VR counselor. This was necessary, since the territory I covered contained many rural areas. The Virginia Office for Protection and Advocacy provided me with a driver during the year and a half I worked there as a disability rights advocate. I have also been fortunate with my law-related employment. Both of the law firms I worked for provided transportation to and from many events. Sometimes, this involved riding with someone else who was going to the same place. When I volunteered for Legal Aid after 1L, there was a college student who wanted to volunteer also. His duties included occasionally serving as my reader and driver. Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:58 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers Unfortunately, I have not heard of drivers being paid for by state agencies. In the late 70's with a bachelor's degree while working for a community agency I was approached by the Michigan Commission for the Blind representative to take a position as a rehab counselor. In that position I would have had to cover a territory consisting of five counties, most of which were rural and would have had to pay a driver myself on a $12,000 per year salary. This salary was only about $2000 more than what I was making in my existing employment. Needless to say I turned down the position for many reasons including not only the economic foolishness of this but the subtle expectation that because I was blind I should be working with blind people since they paid a large of my expenses for college. I have worked in many settings and I have never had the luxury of a driver that was paid for by an employer. In certain instances I was reimbursed somewhat for expenses for transportation. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > Chuck, > > You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. > I > just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the > driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem the > XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments > about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. > > Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in going > over my application materials one more time. > > > Onward! > > Rob Munro > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered > clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments > as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after > all > selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't > accentuate > the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a > clerk here is the product or commodity. > Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal > 1237 P Street > Fresno ca 93721 > 559-266-9237 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Munro" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > >> Keith, >> >> Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information >> that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide >> against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and >> inexpensive way to resolve that issue. >> >> Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or >> not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. >> >> Thanks again for your thoughts. >> >> >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Keith Vick >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Hi Rob, >> >> Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've >> always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me >> that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their >> decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited >> on the advice I can give you. >> >> But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the >> blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns >> out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your >> question. >> >> Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above >> proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, >> statement. >> >> Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship >> you want. >> >> Warmest regards, >> >> Keith Vick >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On Behalf Of Robert Munro >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM >> To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> Friends and colleagues, >> >> I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at >> UNC. >> This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I >> worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he >> had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his >> chambers. >> Because >> I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. >> >> Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a >> blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge >> to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to >> have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. >> >> Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state >> governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind >> employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did >> not have to come out of the judge's budget. >> >> Thank you for your help. I look forward to hearing your replies. >> >> Onward! >> >> Rob Munro >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/keith-vick%4 >> 0msn.c >> om >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. >> com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40s >> bcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail. > com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglob al.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma il.com From dandrews at visi.com Thu Jul 30 22:50:41 2009 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:50:41 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers In-Reply-To: References: <9AE90DA9946940919960F97E7F32B0F3@UNIVERSI044B5B> Message-ID: I work for the state agency for the blind in Minnesota and we regularly pay drivers, and readers for blind persons. Things have changed from the late 70's with the ADA and reasonable accommodations. Dave At 10:58 AM 7/29/2009,you >Unfortunately, I have not heard of drivers being paid for by state >agencies. In the late 70's with a bachelor's degree while working >for a community agency I was approached by the Michigan Commission >for the Blind representative to take a position as a rehab >counselor. In that position I would have had to cover a territory >consisting of five counties, most of which were rural and would have >had to pay a driver myself on a $12,000 per year salary. This salary >was only about $2000 more than what I was making in my existing >employment. Needless to say I turned down the position for many >reasons including not only the economic foolishness of this but the >subtle expectation that because I was blind I should be working with >blind people since they paid a large of my expenses for college. I >have worked in many settings and I have never had the luxury of a >driver that was paid for by an employer. In certain instances I was >reimbursed somewhat for expenses for transportation. >Chuck >----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Munro" >To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:06 AM >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers > > >>Chuck, >> >>You're absolutely right; I do want to focus on my attributes as a clerk. I >>just want to have a concrete answer ready in case the judge raises the >>driving issue. I want to be able to say, "Judge, that's not a problem the >>XYZ program will pay for a driver," rather than falling back on arguments >>about fairness or simply acknowledging that I can't drive. >> >>Thank you again for the reminder about my focus. It will help me in going >>over my application materials one more time. >> >> >>Onward! >> >>Rob Munro >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >>Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net >>Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM >>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >>As you are not the first blind person who has clerked for or considered >>clerking for a judge perhaps you should focus more on your accomplishments >>as a law student and your potential attributes as a clerk. You are after all >>selling yourself and in selling any product or service you don't accentuate >>the negatives or drawbacks of a product or commodity. Your ability as a >>clerk here is the product or commodity. >>Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal >>1237 P Street >>Fresno ca 93721 >>559-266-9237 >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Robert Munro" >>To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >>Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:49 AM >>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >> >> >>>Keith, >>> >>>Thanks for your good wishes. I hope I can dig up some information >>>that will help me convince any judge, who is enclined to decide >>>against me because I can't drive, that there is a simple and >>>inexpensive way to resolve that issue. >>> >>>Whether descrimination against the blind in this context is legal or >>>not, I'm not the sort of person who wants to sue my way in to a job. >>> >>>Thanks again for your thoughts. >>> >>> >>> >>>Onward! >>> >>>Rob Munro >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>On Behalf Of Keith Vick >>>Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:58 PM >>>To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'; BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com >>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >>> >>>Hi Rob, >>> >>>Congratulations on seeking judicial clerkships. I am envious. I've >>>always liked the judges who taught my classes. Something tells me >>>that most judges wouldn't let the ability to drive affect their >>>decision. Since I have no judicial clerkship experience, I am limited >>>on the advice I can give you. >>> >>>But one thing I can do is put forth a proposition: discrimination the >>>blind (in hiring) is actually quite legal. If this proposition turns >>>out to be true, it may have bearing on the ultimate answer to your >>>question. >>> >>>Being legally blind and unable to drive myself, I don't like the above >>>proposition - but unfortunately I believe it is a true, if incomplete, >>>statement. >>> >>>Well, I wish you the very best and hope you get exactly the clerkship >>>you want. >>> >>>Warmest regards, >>> >>>Keith Vick >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >>>On Behalf Of Robert Munro >>>Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:43 AM >>>To: BlindLawStudents at googlegroups.com; 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >>>Subject: [blindlaw] Clerks as Drivers >>> >>>Friends and colleagues, >>> >>>I'd appreciate some help answering this question. I'm a rising 3L at UNC. >>>This summer, I'm applying for judicial clerkships. In May and June, I >>>worked for a judge as an intern. His clerks did his driving when he >>>had to hold court in cities other than the one where he had his >>>chambers. >>>Because >>>I am blind, I could not perform this duty for a judge. >>> >>>Of course, laws prevent an employer from discriminating against a >>>blind person. However, practical considerations might cause a judge >>>to pass me over in favor of a candidate who can drive. I'd like to >>>have something to tell judges durring the interview to help prevent this. >>> >>>Does any one know what programs the federal government, or the state >>>governments in Virginia and North Carolina, offer for providing blind >>>employees with drivers? It would help if the cost of the program did >>>not have to come out of the judge's budget. >>> >>>Thank you for your help. 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