[blindlaw] The Census does not track the blind

[Chwalow, Judith]

No,

But the American Community Survey, a 3,000,000 representative survey of
a subset of the census does.

A. Judith Chwalow, DrPH
Director of Research, Jernigan Institute
National Federation of the Blind
1800 Johnson Street
Baltimore, MD 21230
410 659 9314 x2404
jchwalow at NFB.org
 

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From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] The Census does not track the blind

OK, does the US census ask specific questions about the number of blind
people living in your house?

Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] The Census does not track the blind


> James,
>
> Collecting different data in only some locations is by definition
> INVALID.  You want descriptive statistics.  That's what the census
> is, descriptive statistics.  Unlike inferential statistics, where
> predictions of whole populations are taken from small samples and
> mathematics are used to determine the probability that those
> predictions are true, descriptive statistics are hard data.  The
> census is hard data for the entire population of the United States.
>
> Statistics on SOME people who are blind cannot be done.  Neither can
> it be MOST people.  Unless it is 100% of the population (or much
> greater than 99% that the census bureau has determined to be close
> enough because of the cost and logistics of ensuring that every
> single man, woman, and child is properly counted), then the statistic
> cannot be part of the US census results.
>
> If 10% of the country has been surveyed already, it's far too late.
> In fact, if even 1% of the country has been surveyed, it would be too
> late.
>
> You are single-mindedly pushing for and advocating a lie, claiming it
> to be a civil right.  You have rejected rational explanation of why
> what you insist must be done in fact cannot be at this time.  Your
> only defense of your position is that it must be possible, though you
> have no plan for actually doing so.
>
> I tell you flatly that it is not possible without an immediate halt
> to census-taking and a purge of all data collected to date, followed
> by a media campaign to inform everyone that census data must be
> re-taken in any area that has already been surveyed.  My guess is
> that it would cost hundreds of millions of dollars to do that at this
> point.
>
> The train has left the station.  You weren't on it.  The world will
> not turn back time so that you can board before the final whistle.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 05:28:23PM -0500, James Pepper wrote:
>>It is never too late, and what we need is to bring this up at the
>>convention. We really do not need Oregon's results anyway the census
takes
>>data from all over the place and many states do not cooperate with all
of
>>the census taking anyway, so whats the problem?
>>
>>Also we should get the AAPD involved in this effort.
>>But what we definitely need is some idea as to how many people are 
>>affected,
>>what is their economic position, did they go to college, did they get
a
>>degree, this stuff is essential to developing policy and waiting for
this 
>>to
>>happen 10 years from now will not do!
>>
>>This is a civil rights issue and if we go around saying oh no  we
cannot
>>upset the apple cart then fine we will go around you.
>>
>>James Pepper
>
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