[blindlaw] nfb v. target

Sat Mar 14 16:52:54 UTC 2009

Joe, I really like that response.  What difficulties did you have with the 
web site.  Wasn't the case in involving Target filed in California?  The 
California laws in the area of civil rights make it much easier to litigate 
a case like this one in a state like California.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] nfb v. target

What troubles me is that my question of accessibility standards has not been
answered on the other case against the LSAC.  The same question is
applicable here.  What standard was used to conclude that the web site was
not accessible?  I do not claim to be a genius at manipulating technology to
serve my needs, but I did not have to try hard at all to make Target give me
what I needed between 2005 and 2008.  So is the problem the web site layout,
or is it our own technology training?  Rather than chase every entity with
features a few people deem inaccessible, would it not be prudent to take our
standards, whatever those may be, to the classroom, to the software
developers, the relevant associations raising the performance standards of
its students and members?  This method of engineering change gives us the
perception of a watchdog group.  If this is what we have become, and given
the small margin of the population we represent, I would rather trigger
change at the source rather than at the output.

Joe Orozco

"A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the
crowd."--Max Lucado

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Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] nfb v. target

That should not result in you receiving damages of almost $4,000.00.
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Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:35 AM
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As an individual I am insulted and damaged each time I am
discriminated by a
business not accommodating my ability to access their products
and services,
especially on the Internet when I have made sure that I have
accommodated
myself with the most up-to-date software to mitigate my needs as a blind
person. I should not have to rely on sighted assistance to use
a product or
do without because the greedy corporations has chosen the most expedient
road to sell their products. I am also insulted that you are
posting this
question. I have in my life time been sold out by too many
blind people that
thought they knew what I needed and I hope more companies will
have to pay
damages in these types of cases. Perhaps they will then learn
how to meet
the needs of all their customers. Fortunately here in California we have
some laws with some teeth in them that are
enforceable--although these teeth
still need a good sharpening.
Chuck
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From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] nfb v. target

That is a lawyer talking who makes his living in rediculous
situations like
this one.  Again, you show me how an individual was damaged and out
$4,000.00.
Steve
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Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:38 PM
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Violation of civil rights has long been recognized as a form of
compensible
legal damage as well it should be.
Scott C. LaBarre, Esq.

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From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 2:31 PM
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> This is ridiculous!  How were these people damaged?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mehgan Sidhu" <ms at browngold.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 3:20 PM
> Subject: [blindlaw] nfb v. target
>
>
>> To answer the recent questions posted about the Target case,
the final
>> settlement hearing took place on March 9th.  I understand from our
>> counsel in California, Larry Paradis of DRA and Josh
Konecky, that there
>> were no objectors and the Judge was pleased with the
resolution of the
>> case.   The settlement is not fully "final" until the time for any
>> appeals has run - which is about 30 days.  Given there were
no objectors,
>> it is highly unlikely that any appeals will be filed.  The
judge has not
>> yet made a ruling on attorneys fees, but that will not hold up
>> enforcement of the settlement.
>>
>>
>>
>> As for disbursements, assuming there are no appeals, the claims
>> administer has 45 days from the final approval date to
disburse funds to
>> claimants. I do not know the final tally of approved
claimants, though I
>> think there were several hundred.  I will pass that information along
>> when I have it.
>>
>>
>>
>> We will now be working on enforcing the settlement commitments that
>> Target made with respect to the accessibility of the website.
>>
>>
>> Mehgan Sidhu
>> Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP
>> 120 East Baltimore Street, Suite 1700
>> Baltimore, Maryland 21202
>> 410-962-1030 x1324
>> 410-385-0869 (fax)
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