[blindlaw] LSAT Prep Materials

Wed May 20 16:16:28 UTC 2009

I was one of those not required to sit for the LSAT in 1978.

Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT Prep Materials

> Back during the late 1970s, the LSAT folks decided that since the test
> could not be validated under non-standard conditions, the test would not
> be offered to those who needed reasonable accommodations.  Back in that
> time, with essentially readers and tapes as the technology, blind
> students did not even have the option of taking the LSAT.
>
> I was one of those lucky ones, and every other lawyer I know who went to
> law school in that era also applied to law school without having the
> LSAT.
>
> I have no idea when the practice started and stopped.  The interesting
> question is why they stopped, since from what I can tell, the basic
> premise still remains; a standardized test taken under non-standard
> conditions is not valid, and should not be used as a factor for law
> school admission.  Why didn't anyone think to apply that same logic to
> the bar exam?
>
> Sincerely,
> Tim Ford
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:07 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT Prep Materials
>
> I only know of one blind attorney, Richard Bernstein, who successfully
> convinced North Western to wave his LSAT when he applied. He is the guy
> who was sighted as the attorney challenging the traffic signals. So, it
> can be done. With excellent grades and excellent recommendations was how
> he did it.
> With excellent grades and many professors speaking highly of him, he
> effectively neutralized any negative impact of the LSAT in his
> application package. He didn't even take the exam -- he told them that
> it was an unfair way of evaluating his abilities. This is public
> knowledge so I can share it outside of my conversation with him.
>
> Rod Alcidonis
> Juris Doctor Candidate, 2009
> Roger Williams University School of Law
> 10 Metacom Ave., Box: 9003
> Bristol, RI 02809
> Home: 401-824-8685
> Cell: 718-704-4651
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT Prep Materials
>
>
>> Since there seem to be so many accessibility issues with the LSAT
>> preparation format and the actual exam, why not just request that the
> law
>> school wave the test?
>> Steve
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT Prep Materials
>>
>>
>>> your alternative would be, if it is financially feasible for you, to
>>> enroll
>>> in a prep program where you will get questions to practice from. This
> is
>>> not
>>> the ideal but really the easiest way to avoid the current
> frustration.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis
>>> Juris Doctor Candidate, 2009
>>> Roger Williams University School of Law
>>> 10 Metacom Ave., Box: 9003
>>> Bristol, RI 02809
>>> Home: 401-824-8685
>>> Cell: 718-704-4651
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT Prep Materials
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Haben,
>>>>
>>>> Publishers are not required to provide Braille copies of books under
> the
>>>> ADA, unfortunately, I know that the books on Bookshare are older,
> but I
>>>> believe at least one contains actual LSAT's. This might be a good
>>>> starting
>>>> point. I do understand your frustration. Good luck to you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Haben Girma
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:55 PM
>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] LSAT Prep Materials
>>>>
>>>> Good Morning,
>>>>
>>>> Are there any LSAT prep materials in braille that are really recent?
> The
>>>> Library of Congress has nothing. Bookshare.org has three LSAT prep
> books
>>>> that were published in either 2002 or 2005. I purchased the print
> copy
>>>> of the 2009 Cracking the LSAT book, which is published by the
> Princeton
>>>> Review. I called them up today asking that they provide me with a
>>>> braille copy. "Sorry, we don't have a braille copy," the customer
>>>> service woman replied. There are many books currently unavailable in
>>>> braille, but in the case of this book I feel unable to acknowledge
> this
>>>> reality. Preparing for the LSAT is absolutely important, I want the
> best
>>>> prep books in my most comfortable reading media: braille. I left a
>>>> message with the Editorial staff asking for a braille copy or at
> least
>>>> an electronic copy so I can emboss it myself. Shouldn't the
> Princeton
>>>> Review be required to provide a braille copy of their book, as a
>>>> reasonable accommodation under the ADA?
>>>>
>>>> Those of you who are currently studying for the LSAT or have
> recently
>>>> taken it, what study methods and materials did you use?
>>>>
>>>> p.s. I can't use audio material because I'm hard-of-hearing.
>>>>
>>>> Haben
>>>>
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