From darlene.olsen at gmail.com  Sun Nov  1 01:02:14 2009
From: darlene.olsen at gmail.com (Darlene Olsen)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:02:14 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
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Greetings J in Oregon,

     I am also a first year student.  I lost my vision approximately 2 years 
ago.  I want to learn to read braille and study law.  I typically feel that 
it is much like inventing the wheel.  I suppose that if Lady Justice can 
walk around blind folded with the scales of justice and a sword; I can trot 
around with a white cane and a victor stream reader.  I have never felt more 
passionate about anything in my life until I learned the law and the useful 
tool it is for everyone.  I felt a feeling of peace and comfort in knowing 
that there are other people that feel the same way and can relate to me as 
some withthe absence of sight and not without vision.
   Good Luck to you.
     Incidentally, I have a study buddy that was deployed to Afganistan and 
intend to do my best to help this wonderful soldier.

Respectfully,
Darlene
    I used to be a paralegal so this could give me an edge over the otherlaw 
students  Furthermore, I would note that the faculty and students are 
terrific and I hold the highest respect for the effort they place in the 
assignment and respect for each other.  s.  .

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods


> Hello all,
> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. with 
> indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard to see 
> the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like this.
>
> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Jay in Oregon
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From withat at msn.com  Sun Nov  1 17:52:38 2009
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 09:52:38 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
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	<699DDF99800142639E0C0A277EC0EEEC@DarleneOlsen>
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Hi Darlene,
Congrats for getting into law school.  I'll cross my fingers for you and 
your friend in Afghanistan.

Best,
Jay
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darlene Olsen" <darlene.olsen at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


> Greetings J in Oregon,
>
>     I am also a first year student.  I lost my vision approximately 2 
> years ago.  I want to learn to read braille and study law.  I typically 
> feel that it is much like inventing the wheel.  I suppose that if Lady 
> Justice can walk around blind folded with the scales of justice and a 
> sword; I can trot around with a white cane and a victor stream reader.  I 
> have never felt more passionate about anything in my life until I learned 
> the law and the useful tool it is for everyone.  I felt a feeling of peace 
> and comfort in knowing that there are other people that feel the same way 
> and can relate to me as some withthe absence of sight and not without 
> vision.
>   Good Luck to you.
>     Incidentally, I have a study buddy that was deployed to Afganistan and 
> intend to do my best to help this wonderful soldier.
>
> Respectfully,
> Darlene
>    I used to be a paralegal so this could give me an edge over the 
> otherlaw students  Furthermore, I would note that the faculty and students 
> are terrific and I hold the highest respect for the effort they place in 
> the assignment and respect for each other.  s.  .
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hello all,
>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>> this.
>>
>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>
>> Thanks much.
>>
>> Jay in Oregon
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> blindlaw:
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/darlene.olsen%40gmail.com
>
>
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov  3 00:20:24 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:20:24 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>

Hi Jay,
I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next layer 
A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand margin how 
many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily enables you to go 
back and add additional sub layers as your outline evolves.  Also, when you 
discover that you need an additional highest level layer between A and B for 
example, then the inserted layer can be AA and so on.

Which law school are you attending?
Best,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods


> Hello all,
> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. with 
> indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard to see 
> the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like this.
>
> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Jay in Oregon
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> blindlaw:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennisgclark%40sbcglobal.net 



From angie.matney at gmail.com  Tue Nov  3 00:57:12 2009
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:57:12 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
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	<03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>
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I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead to 
the next heading, no matter the level.

Angie




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


> Hi Jay,
> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
> Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
> for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next 
> layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand 
> margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily enables 
> you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline evolves. 
> Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest level layer 
> between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be AA and so on.
>
> Which law school are you attending?
> Best,
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hello all,
>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>> this.
>>
>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>
>> Thanks much.
>>
>> Jay in Oregon
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> blindlaw:
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennisgclark%40sbcglobal.net
>
>
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov  3 01:28:45 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:28:45 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
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	<46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
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Hi Angie,
I went to law school last century and there was no HTML.  It's a very good 
idea!
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead to 
>the next heading, no matter the level.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hi Jay,
>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
>> Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
>> for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next 
>> layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand 
>> margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>> AA and so on.
>>
>> Which law school are you attending?
>> Best,
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>>> this.
>>>
>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Jay in Oregon
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> blindlaw:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennisgclark%40sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
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>
>
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From bjsexton at comcast.net  Tue Nov  3 02:15:08 2009
From: bjsexton at comcast.net (Bruce Sexton Jr.)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:15:08 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl><03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>
	<46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
Message-ID: <1E5A0BED8BBC4F7FA3EDD06DFFA92A40@SLIM>

please take me off this list.

Thanks,
Bruce
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead to 
>the next heading, no matter the level.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hi Jay,
>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
>> Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
>> for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next 
>> layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand 
>> margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>> AA and so on.
>>
>> Which law school are you attending?
>> Best,
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>>> this.
>>>
>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Jay in Oregon
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> blindlaw:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennisgclark%40sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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From bjsexton at comcast.net  Tue Nov  3 02:16:28 2009
From: bjsexton at comcast.net (Bruce Sexton Jr.)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:16:28 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl><03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>
	<46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
Message-ID: <52DA3CE5392F41AFA66277B1FBED8DB8@SLIM>

sorry guys, I wrote to the wrong list!  I am still interested in this list.

-Bruce
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead to 
>the next heading, no matter the level.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hi Jay,
>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
>> Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
>> for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next 
>> layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand 
>> margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>> AA and so on.
>>
>> Which law school are you attending?
>> Best,
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>>> this.
>>>
>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Jay in Oregon
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> blindlaw:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennisgclark%40sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> blindlaw:
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>
>
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov  3 05:09:14 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:09:14 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl><03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server><46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
	<1E5A0BED8BBC4F7FA3EDD06DFFA92A40@SLIM>
Message-ID: <042701ca5c43$c9bdbde0$6601a8c0@server>

Hello Bruce,
To unsubscribe I think you need to go to the following link.
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bjsexton%40comcast.net
Good luck
Dennis



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Sexton Jr." <bjsexton at comcast.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


> please take me off this list.
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead 
>>to the next heading, no matter the level.
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jay,
>>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word 
>>> or Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering 
>>> system for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The 
>>> next layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left 
>>> hand margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>>> AA and so on.
>>>
>>> Which law school are you attending?
>>> Best,
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be 
>>>> hard to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document 
>>>> like this.
>>>>
>>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much.
>>>>
>>>> Jay in Oregon
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From JFreeh at nfb.org  Wed Nov  4 02:34:07 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:34:07 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] NFB President Marc Maurer to Receive Award from
 University of Notre Dame
Message-ID: <auto-000124846981@mailfront1.g2host.com>


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE



CONTACT:

Chris Danielsen

Director of Public Relations

National Federation of the Blind

(410) 659-9314, extension 2330

(410) 262-1281 (Cell)

<mailto:cdanielsen at nfb.org>cdanielsen at nfb.org



NFB President Marc Maurer to Receive Award
from University of Notre Dame



Award Honors Maurer's Outstanding Contributions in Public Service



Notre Dame, Indiana (November 2, 2009): The National Federation of 
the Blind (NFB), the largest organization of blind people in the 
United States, today announced that its president, Dr. Marc Maurer, 
will be presented the Rev. John J. Cavanaugh, C.S.C., Award from the 
University of Notre Dame Alumni Association in a ceremony on November 
5.  Maurer, a 1974 graduate from the University of Notre Dame, will 
be honored for outstanding contributions in the field of public service.

Maurer earned his law degree from Indiana University in 1977 and 
began focusing on representing blind individuals in the courts.  A 
member of the Bar in Indiana, Ohio, Iowa, Maryland, and the Bar of 
the Supreme Court, Maurer is one of the most experienced lawyers in 
the field of civil rights and discrimination against the blind.

Maurer has been president of the National Federation of the Blind 
since 1986.  In that capacity, he has joined President George W. Bush 
in the Oval Office in 2001 to celebrate the organization's Everest 
Expedition, and was present for Bush's signing into law the Help 
America Vote Act of 2002.  He has promoted new technology for the 
blind, including the knfbReader Mobile, a revolutionary cell phone 
application that scans and reads aloud most printed material, and the 
prototype vehicle for the Blind Driver Challenge.  He has overseen 
the visionary expansion of the NFB Jernigan Institute, the first 
training and research institute for the blind, led by the blind.  He 
has also previously served as president of the North 
America/Caribbean Region of the World Blind Union.

Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
said: "I am honored to receive this award from my alma mater.  As 
president of the largest organization of blind people in the United 
States, I have been fortunate to play a role in many exciting and 
life-changing developments for blind people in America.  While we 
have made much progress, there is still more to be done.  Only 10 
percent of blind children are learning Braille in this country, and 
this directly contributes to a 70 percent unemployment rate among 
blind people in the United States.  I humbly accept this award on 
behalf of blind Americans and pledge to work harder than ever to 
ensure that the blind are not left behind in today's society."



"In his role as president of the National Federation of the Blind, 
Marc Maurer continually demonstrates unwavering determination in his 
effort to better the lives of the world's blind through innovative 
technologies and services that support their independence," said 
Charles F. Lennon Jr., executive director of the Notre Dame Alumni 
Association and associate vice president for University 
Relations.  "The Notre Dame Alumni Association is pleased to honor 
Marc for his personal character and outstanding contributions in 
public service.  He is a living example of the integrity and 
generosity of spirit that Notre Dame instills in its graduates.  His 
leadership of the NFB has made the University proud."



For more information about the National Federation of the Blind, 
please visit <http://www.nfb.org/>www.nfb.org.



###


From JFreeh at nfb.org  Wed Nov  4 02:49:52 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:49:52 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF BAR EXAMINERS (NCBE)
 DISCRIMINATES AGAINST BLIND AND LOW VISION LAW SCHOOL GRADUATES
Message-ID: <auto-000124848387@mailfront1.g2host.com>


NEWS 
RELEASE 


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

November 3, 2009





CONTACTS:

Chris Danielsen, Director of Public Relations, NFB, (410) 659-9314, ext. 2330

Scott Labarre, Labarre Law Offices, P.C., (303) 504-5979

Daniel Goldstein, Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP, (410) 962-1030

Larry Paradis, Disability Rights Advocates, (510) 665-8644





NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF BAR EXAMINERS (NCBE) DISCRIMINATES AGAINST 
BLIND AND LOW VISION LAW SCHOOL GRADUATES



OAKLAND, Calif. - A suit filed today in Federal court alleges that 
The National Conference of Bar Examiners (NCBE) discriminates against 
blind and low vision law school graduates. The suit charges that the 
NCBE is violating Title III of the Americans with Disabilities Act 
(ADA) and California's civil rights law by denying accommodations on 
the Multistate Bar Exam (MBE) and the Multistate Professional 
Responsibility Exam (MPRE) to a law school graduate who is blind.



The Plaintiff is represented with the support of the National 
Federation of the Blind ("NFB") by Labarre Law Offices, P.C., in 
Denver, CO, and by Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP, in Baltimore, MD. 
The Plaintiff is further represented by Disability Rights Advocates 
(DRA), a non-profit law center that specializes in civil rights cases 
on behalf of persons with disabilities, based in Berkeley, CA.



The NCBE provides standardized examinations for the testing of 
applicants for admission to the practice of law. Two of the tests it 
controls, the Multistate Bar Exam (MBE) and the Multistate 
Professional Responsibility Examination (MPRE) are required for 
admission to the bar by most states. The California Bar examination 
has two sections; a California section and the MBE. Although both 
parts of the exam are administered by the California State Bar, the 
NCBE controls the type of accommodations each state can offer test 
takers with disabilities for the MBE portion of the bar exam.



Even though the California State Bar is a named Defendant in the 
suit, they have offered to provide the Plaintiff with all the 
accommodations she requested for the California section of the bar 
examination. However, the NCBE refuses to allow the California Bar 
Examiners to give the Plaintiff certain of the accommodations that 
she needs on the MBE portion of the bar exam. The California State 
Bar is fulfilling its legal obligation and is only named in the 
complaint as an indispensable party. Plaintiff hopes that the lawsuit 
will convince the NCBE to follow the California State Bar's example 
and provide the requested accommodations on the MBE portion of the bar exam.



The NCBE has also denied Plaintiff the accommodations at issue on the 
MPRE exam.  This is a separate exam that bar applicants need to pass 
to be admitted to practice.  The ACT is also named in the complaint 
since it administers the MPRE examination for NCBE and is thus also 
an indispensable party.



The Plaintiff Stephanie Enyart is a law school graduate who is 
legally blind and requires accommodations to take the MBE and MPRE. 
She has requested to take the exams on a laptop computer equipped 
with screen reading (JAWS) and screen magnification (ZoomText) 
software. Ms. Enyart has relied on this combination of assistive 
technology as an accommodation on her exams throughout law school and 
in her current legal work.



The NCBE has refused to allow Ms. Enyart these reasonable 
accommodations for the MBE and MPRE on several occasions during the 
past years. In recent discussions with Plaintiff's counsel, the NCBE 
has indicated that it will continue to deny Ms. Enyart her requested 
accommodations.  Instead, the NCBE has offered alternative 
accommodations that are not suited to Ms. Enyart's disability and are 
not effective. The NCBE's denials of accommodations are preventing 
Ms. Enyart from obtaining admission to the bar, impeding her career.



Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind 
(NFB), supporting the lawsuit, said "Too often law students who are 
blind or have low vision have to prolong their prospects for 
licensing while they fight to get the same accommodations they've had 
throughout their educational history. Those that opt to settle for 
inadequate accommodations usually struggle to pass or sometimes do 
not pass at all. Those who control admission to the practice of law 
must obey the law."



Janice Ta, President of the National Association of Law Students with 
Disabilities (NALSWD), which expressed support for the lawsuit, said 
"The legal profession must recognize and be prepared for the spectrum 
of conditions and disabilities that law students have. Testing 
entities need to be open to a wide range of accommodations. But we 
find that time and again they don't seem to understand their 
obligation for providing individualized accommodations and adaptive 
technologies that reflect the way real law students with disabilities 
get tested, study, and make their way around the world."







###

From JFreeh at nfb.org  Wed Nov  4 03:09:20 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:09:20 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind Announces 2010
 Scholarship Program
Message-ID: <auto-000126059822@mailfront2.g2host.com>


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE



CONTACT:

Chris Danielsen

Director of Public Relations

National Federation of the Blind

(410) 659-9314, extension 2330

(410) 262-1281 (Cell)

cdanielsen at nfb.org


National Federation of the Blind Announces 2010 Scholarship Program




Thirty Scholarships Available to College and Postgraduate Students



Baltimore, Maryland (November 3, 2009):  The National Federation of 
the Blind, the oldest and largest organization of blind people in the 
United States, announced today that applications are now being 
accepted for the 2010 National Federation of the Blind Scholarship 
Program.  Thirty scholarships totaling $100,000 will be awarded to 
blind students from the United States and Puerto Rico.  The 
scholarships are available to blind students who will be enrolled in 
college or a graduate program beginning in the fall of 2010, 
including incoming freshmen.  Scholarships range in value from $3,000 
to $12,000.



Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
said: "The National Federation of the Blind Scholarship Program is 
the Federation's way of recognizing outstanding academic achievement 
by blind students and spreading our positive philosophy of blindness 
to these students and to the general public.  Because of the 
collective efforts of blind Americans, blind people today are 
achieving greater academic success and entering fields of study once 
thought closed to the blind, and celebrating their achievements is 
always a highlight of our national convention.  I join the 
Scholarship Committee in inviting every eligible blind student to 
submit an application, and I look forward to meeting the dynamic 
individuals that will make up the 2010 National Federation of the 
Blind scholarship class."



Information on the NFB scholarship program is posted online at 
<http://www.nfb.org/scholarships>www.nfb.org/scholarships.  The 
deadline for applications is March 31, 2010.

Questions may be directed to the NFB Scholarship Committee Chairman, 
Mr. Anil Lewis, by e-mail at 
<mailto:Scholarships at nfb.org>Scholarships at nfb.org, or by phone at 
(410) 659 -9314, extension 2415.


From blind411 at verizon.net  Wed Nov  4 03:22:35 2009
From: blind411 at verizon.net (Marion Gwizdala)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:22:35 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Guide Dogs in Hospitals & Other Health Care Facilities
Message-ID: <auto-000124850682@mailfront1.g2host.com>

National Association of Guide Dog Users
National Federation of the Blind

October 27, 2009

Guide Dogs in Hospitals & Other Health Care Facilities

             What are your rights as a guide dog user when visiting 
family or friends in the hospital? As a patient, do you have the 
right to have your dog in the room with you? Are there places or 
conditions in which you can be restricted from being accompanied by 
your guide dog? Can your doctor deny you the right to have your guide 
dog with you in an examination room? Can an ambulance refuse to 
transport your guide dog with you? These questions and many more will 
be answered in an upcoming  special teleseminar.
             The National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU), a 
strong and proud division of the National Federation of the Blind, 
will host "Guide Dogs in Hospitals & Other Health Care Facilities" on 
Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 8:00 p.m. eastern  standard Time (7:00 
pm Central; 6:00 pm Mountain; and 5:00 pm Pacific). This teleseminar 
is absolutely free; however reservations are required. Participation 
is limited and is on a first come first served basis.
             In order to reserve your space in this teleseminar, 
please send your name, city & state, and your email address by 
Friday, November 20, 2009 to
<mailto:President at NFB-NAGDU.ORG>President at NFB-NAGDU.ORG
An email confirmation with the call-in number and access codes will 
be sent to you. Those without email access or who would like more 
information may call 813-626-2789.
             The information provided during this teleseminar is 
intended as informal guidance only and should not be construed as 
legal advice. The National Association of Guide Dog Users, the 
National Federation of the Blind, or any of its affiliates, 
divisions, or chapters will not be responsible for any telephone 
charges or fees that may be incurred as the result of participation 
in this seminar. For more information about the National Association 
of Guide Dog Users, the National Federation of the Blind, or to 
locate a Chapter in your area, you may visit the following websites:

National Association of Guide Dog Users
HTTP://NFB-NAGDU.ORG

National Federation of the Blind
<http://nfb.org/>HTTP://NFB.ORG

The National Federation of the Blind is changing what it means to be blind!
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From withat at msn.com  Wed Nov  4 06:13:56 2009
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:13:56 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <cbf.4a5598b2.381e04f8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1405B8D4E2467523E7C8F8D2B10@phx.gbl>

Thank you, Ronza!  This two-styled approach is a neat idea.  I will 
definitely experiment with it.  I really appreciate your feedback and 
outline excerpt.

Thanks!
Jay
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


> Jay,
>
> Welcome to the list.
>
> You raise an excellent point.  I had the same problem trying to figure 
> out
> the big picture with the outline method at first.  I ultimately  developed
> the habit of creating two outlines.  The first one was a really  general 
> big
> picture sort - less than a page.  Think of it as a sort of  table of
> contents, if you want.  I even went back and added page numbers to  my 
> other
> outline later.  I modeled this one-pager after the course sylabus 
> outline.  I
> also created it near the beginning of the semester so that I  had a sense 
> of
> where we were headed.  I've pasted portions of that  one-pager at the 
> bottom
> of this email for your reference.
>
> Then I would take that really general "big picture" outline and fill it in
> with specific cases, concepts, and exceptions.  So I might include things
> like "definition" or a specific case name and short description under one 
> of
> the  subcategories.  By the time the term ended, I'd have just as long an
> outline as everyone else, but I also had the one-pager, which was great 
> for
> little cram sessions and to keep me grounded.  In fact, I actually 
> compiled
> all the one-pagers and used them to help me study for the bar exam.
>
> Let me know if you want me to send you other examples.
>
> Good luck,
> Ronza
>
>
> Course Title: Torts
> I. Intentional Torts
> A. Assault
> B. Battery
> C. False Imprisonment
> D. Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress (IIED)
> E. Trespass to Land
> ...
> II. Harm to Economic and Dignitary Interests
> A. Defamation
> B. Invasion of Privacy
> C. Misrepresentation
> D. Interference with Business Relations
> ...
> III. Negligence
> A. Prima Facia Case
>    1. Duty
>    2. Breach
>    3. Causation
>    4. Damages
> B. Defenses
>    1. Contributory Negligence
>    2. Comparative Negligence
>    3. Assumption of Risk
>    4. Strict Liability
> ...
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/31/2009 3:22:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> withat at msn.com writes:
>
> Hello  all,
> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a  recent
> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This  is my first 
> year
> in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question  whether the 
> typical
> method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters,  etc. with
> indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be  hard to 
> see the big
> picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like  this.
>
> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>
> Thanks  much.
>
> Jay in  Oregon
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From withat at msn.com  Wed Nov  4 06:36:33 2009
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:36:33 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl><03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>
	<46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP34BF4B745D6AE845A2C0D9D2B10@phx.gbl>

Hi Angie,
Could you e-mail me off list?  I have some questions about your response if 
you have time.  Thanks.

Hi Dennis,
Thanks for this info.  Like you, I might rely on simplicity, especially 
since I don't have the time to climb a big learning curve right now.  The 
letters and numbers that you type in the left margin... were you using 
Word's autoformatting feature?  Autoformatting seems like a powerful tool 
for outlining but I'm not as familiar with it as I would like.  A friend 
uses the "notebook" feature of her Word 2007 for Mac to create her outlines. 
It appears to be an autoformat setting, but I don't see it on my pc.  Does 
anyone know if there are multiple autoformats from which to choose, and if 
so, where in Word they are selected?

Thanks all!

Jay

PS  Dennis, I am attending Lewis & Clark, a school in Portland.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead to 
>the next heading, no matter the level.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hi Jay,
>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
>> Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
>> for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next 
>> layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand 
>> margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>> AA and so on.
>>
>> Which law school are you attending?
>> Best,
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>>> this.
>>>
>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Jay in Oregon
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> blindlaw:
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>>
>>
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From Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov  Thu Nov  5 14:40:38 2009
From: Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov (Othman, Ronza)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:40:38 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Vacancy Announcement with DHS
Message-ID: <C7A83F855C9DFC4794B8695BC4C10E689EF8C2@ZAU1UG-0308.DHSNET.DS1.DHS>

CRCL EEO Programs Division has openings for Supervisory EEO Specialists
open on USA Jobs.  The vacancy announcements close on November 17, 2009.
Please see the link and share with any who may be eligible.

FS-295362-SW10
<http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?OPMControl=1721247> 

 

 

Ronza M. Othman, Esq.
Policy Advisor
Office for Civil Rights & Civil Liberties
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
(202) 357-8517 (office)

(202) 436-4437 (cell) 
ronza.othman at dhs.gov
www.dhs.gov/civilliberties

This message may contain agency deliberative communications, privacy
information or other information that may be privileged and exempt from
disclosure outside the agency or to the public.  Please consult with the
Department of Homeland Security, Office for Civil Rights and Civil
Liberties and the Office of General Counsel before disclosing any
information contained in this email.

 


From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Nov  5 21:44:13 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:44:13 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Justice Department Sues Colorado Attorney for Disability
 Discrimination, DOJ press release, November 3 2009
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB900@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

Text:
Department of Justice
Office of Public Affairs
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Justice Department Sues Colorado Attorney for Disability Discrimination

WASHINGTON - The United States has filed a lawsuit against Patric LeHouillier, an attorney based in Colorado Springs, Colo., alleging that he violated the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) by denying a woman with a service animal access to his offices, the Justice Department announced. The complaint, filed today in federal court in Denver, alleges that the attorney denied access to a woman, her husband and her attorney because the woman was accompanied by her service animal, an Australian Shepherd dog trained to provide disability-related assistance.

"The Americans with Disabilities Act ensures that individuals with disabilities are guaranteed the same rights and access granted to everyone, and it has prohibited discrimination against individuals who use service dogs for almost 20 years," said Thomas E. Perez, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division. "The Justice Department is committed to enforcing the ADA to protect the rights of persons with disabilities and to ensuring that all services providers understand their obligation to provide equal access."

A service animal is individually trained to work or perform tasks for the benefit of an individual with a disability. Service animals - most commonly dogs - perform a wide variety of functions. Examples of these functions include guiding persons who are blind or have low vision; alerting individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing to sounds; warning persons about impending seizures or other medical conditions; performing a variety of tasks for persons with psychiatric disabilities and picking up items, opening doors, flipping switches, providing physical support and pulling wheelchairs for individuals with mobility disabilities.

Title III of the ADA prohibits discrimination by lawyers, doctors, hospitals, restaurants, hotels, retail stores, private transportation providers and other private businesses and nonprofit organizations that provide services to the public. Title II of the ADA prohibits discrimination by public entities, including state and local governments and public transportation providers. All of these entities are prohibited from excluding individuals with disabilities from their facilities, services and programs because they use service animals. If any of these entities has a rule excluding pets or other animals, it must make an exception to that rule and permit an individual with a disability to be accompanied by a service animal.

More information about today's lawsuit, the ADA and ADA rights and responsibilities relating to service animals is available on the ADA home page at http://www.ada.gov. This information includes two publications specifically addressing service animal access: "ADA Business Brief: Service Animals" and "Commonly Asked Questions About Service Animals in Places of Business." Those interested in obtaining copies of these documents or additional information can also call the Justice Department's toll-free ADA Information Line (800) 514-0301 or (800) 514-0383 (TTY).

09-1188Civil Rights Division


Link to civil complaint:
http://www.ada.gov/lehouillier.htm

Link to press release:
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2009/November/09-crt-1188.html




From Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov  Mon Nov  9 18:30:40 2009
From: Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov (Othman, Ronza)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:30:40 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] DHS Vacancy Announcement
Message-ID: <C7A83F855C9DFC4794B8695BC4C10E689EFF1D@ZAU1UG-0308.DHSNET.DS1.DHS>

HQ EEO has an opening for a Staff Assistance open on USAJobs and will
close on November 27, 2009.  The links are provided below.  Please
forward to any and all who may be interested and eligible.

 

FS295347DE <http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?OPMControl=1720670>
- Competitive (non-government candidates) 

FS295347MP <http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?OPMControl=1720620>
- Merit Promotion or Status (current or former Federal employees)

 

Kind regards,

 

 

 

Ronza M. Othman, Esq.
Policy Advisor
Office for Civil Rights & Civil Liberties
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
(202) 357-8517 (office)

(202) 436-4437 (cell) 
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From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:10:00 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Commission Seeking Interns for Spring Semester
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Subject: Commission Seeking Interns for Spring Semester

The Commission is looking for interns (undergrad and law school) for the spring semester. Details at: http://bit.ly/2UlWnL


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From withat at msn.com  Wed Nov 11 23:39:08 2009
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:39:08 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining using html headings
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl><03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>
	<46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP92326F819E016D6FE6429CD2AA0@phx.gbl>

Hi Angie,
How are html headings inserted into Word?  I am new to Word 2007, and am 
still loathing it.  I did learn how to get into outline mode, but now only 
know how to indent back and forth, and have not learned the intricacies of 
the autonumbering.  Anyway, the html headings sound compelling but I am 
clueless as how to do it.  Thanks!

Jay
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead to 
>the next heading, no matter the level.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hi Jay,
>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
>> Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
>> for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next 
>> layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand 
>> margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>> AA and so on.
>>
>> Which law school are you attending?
>> Best,
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>>> this.
>>>
>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Jay in Oregon
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> blindlaw:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennisgclark%40sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 02:23:40 2009
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:23:40 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining using html headings
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP92326F819E016D6FE6429CD2AA0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl><03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server><46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
	<BLU0-SMTP92326F819E016D6FE6429CD2AA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <70EEA6D105AB4AA69F3D6A6B9060E88A@arm4rPC>

Hi,

I just typed them in manually:

<h1> for main topic.

<h2> for the next level down, and so on.

HTH,

Angie


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:39 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining using html headings


> Hi Angie,
> How are html headings inserted into Word?  I am new to Word 2007, and am 
> still loathing it.  I did learn how to get into outline mode, but now only 
> know how to indent back and forth, and have not learned the intricacies of 
> the autonumbering.  Anyway, the html headings sound compelling but I am 
> clueless as how to do it.  Thanks!
>
> Jay
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead 
>>to the next heading, no matter the level.
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jay,
>>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word 
>>> or Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering 
>>> system for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The 
>>> next layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left 
>>> hand margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>>> AA and so on.
>>>
>>> Which law school are you attending?
>>> Best,
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be 
>>>> hard to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document 
>>>> like this.
>>>>
>>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much.
>>>>
>>>> Jay in Oregon
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>>> blindlaw:
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennisgclark%40sbcglobal.net
>>>
>>>
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>>
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From Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov  Thu Nov 12 21:33:05 2009
From: Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov (Othman, Ronza)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:33:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Summer Internships Available at DHS
Message-ID: <C7A83F855C9DFC4794B8695BC4C10E68A80E6C@ZAU1UG-0308.DHSNET.DS1.DHS>

Please find the link for the DHS Summer Internship Vacancy Announcement
below.

 

https://dhsjobs.dhs.gov/careersection/hq_career_site/jobdetail.ftl?lang=
en&job=33223&media_id=19041&src=USAJobs_Taleo

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Ronza M. Othman, Esq.
Policy Advisor
Office for Civil Rights & Civil Liberties
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
(202) 357-8517 (office)

(202) 436-4437 (cell) 
ronza.othman at dhs.gov
www.dhs.gov/civilliberties

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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Fri Nov 13 00:31:09 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:31:09 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB97C@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



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Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:28 AM
To: jobs at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Jobs] FW: Attorney Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice



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Date posted: 10-27-2009
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Fri Nov 13 19:05:19 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:05:19 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: DOJ Job Postings
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Enclosed for your distribution are three recently posted DOJ job announcements, as follows:

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From withat at msn.com  Sat Nov 14 02:43:41 2009
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:43:41 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP314FD5D472357B8AD8D2BED2A70@phx.gbl>

Hi folks,

Thanks to everyone who sent me ideas for outlining.  Bruce, your ideas about K1000 were especially generative.  I realized that it would be easiest (for me) to comprehend an outline if it were in the tree format that is used to expand/collapse folders and subfolders in Kurzweil's Save As window.  Each level would represent a certain heading level, and opening a branch would display its subheadings.  It would allow tracing of paths like a flow chart.  Has anyone else thought of or tried using something like this?  Is this something that could be done in Excel?  I'm not super proficient at the program, but would have no clue how to construct a database (perhaps the alternative).

Using the search feature in Word to jump from a specified heading to the same specified heading is fine, except that it is a one-trick pony unless altering the search.  Using the move by paragraph operation is good for moving step by step, but it doesn't allow easy comprehension of the big picture; JAWS doesn't even do a great job distinguishing between Roman and Arabic numerals.  Kurzweil might be a better option for creating a standard outline, but it will take some getting used to losing the 10 digit keypad for navigation.  So far, I've only used the program for OCR, and save the files to Word for reading.

Thanks again!

Jay

From r.g.munro at gmail.com  Sat Nov 14 19:52:22 2009
From: r.g.munro at gmail.com (Robert Munro)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:52:22 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP314FD5D472357B8AD8D2BED2A70@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP314FD5D472357B8AD8D2BED2A70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4aff0a77.9453f10a.4502.ffffb04e@mx.google.com>

I had trouble with roman numerals too during my 1L year, both in the
outlines I prepared and in textbooks.  Here's how I dealt with the issue.

To have JAWS distinguish between Arabic and roman numerals, Open your JAWS
default dictionary and create definitions for the roman numerals.  Here are
some things to keep in mind when you do this.

1.  Have JAWS say "roman two," or something similar, for roman numeral two,
"roman three" for roman numeral three, ETC.

2.  Make sure your definitions are not case sensitive; that way, JAWS will
catch both big and little roman numerals.  Of course, you could create two
sets of definitions, one for big roman numerals and another for little ones,
with JAWS saying "big roman two" and "little roman two" respectively.  I
chose not to do this.

3.  Skip roman numerals that consist of only one letter: I, V, L, X, C, D,
and M.  These pop up too often in normal text.  It will only confuse things
if JAWS is treating them as roman numerals instead of letters.

Good luck prepping for exams.  I hope my comments have been helpful.

Onward!

Rob Munro

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Johnston
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:44 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea

Hi folks,

Thanks to everyone who sent me ideas for outlining.  Bruce, your ideas about
K1000 were especially generative.  I realized that it would be easiest (for
me) to comprehend an outline if it were in the tree format that is used to
expand/collapse folders and subfolders in Kurzweil's Save As window.  Each
level would represent a certain heading level, and opening a branch would
display its subheadings.  It would allow tracing of paths like a flow chart.
Has anyone else thought of or tried using something like this?  Is this
something that could be done in Excel?  I'm not super proficient at the
program, but would have no clue how to construct a database (perhaps the
alternative).

Using the search feature in Word to jump from a specified heading to the
same specified heading is fine, except that it is a one-trick pony unless
altering the search.  Using the move by paragraph operation is good for
moving step by step, but it doesn't allow easy comprehension of the big
picture; JAWS doesn't even do a great job distinguishing between Roman and
Arabic numerals.  Kurzweil might be a better option for creating a standard
outline, but it will take some getting used to losing the 10 digit keypad
for navigation.  So far, I've only used the program for OCR, and save the
files to Word for reading.

Thanks again!

Jay
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From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:07:06 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Special Christmas Offers from GW Micro Can Get you A
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From: Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov (Othman, Ronza)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:49:58 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] CRCL Summer Internship Opportunity
Message-ID: <C7A83F855C9DFC4794B8695BC4C10E68A815EF@ZAU1UG-0308.DHSNET.DS1.DHS>

Please distribute widely.

 

Summer student internship opportunity with the Department of Homeland
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From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Wed Nov 18 08:05:19 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:05:19 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
Message-ID: <C366B29BFDCA423A9592838FCA9EE2F3@RodelynPC>

I thought I should post this here since no one yet has done so.

I can tell you that I wished I had that in Law School. It is very very easy to read a case on Google with JAWS.

I strongly advise law students to use it whenever your task is to simply read a case... it is much faster than Westlaw. IT is not, however, a replacement of Westlaw and others. It is a basic tool to search for and read states and federal caselaw.

Go to 
www.scholar.google.com

type your search and down arrow to select the check box that says legal research or something to that effect.

Enjoy...

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending 
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston 

From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 18 14:04:56 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:04:56 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
In-Reply-To: <C366B29BFDCA423A9592838FCA9EE2F3@RodelynPC>
References: <C366B29BFDCA423A9592838FCA9EE2F3@RodelynPC>
Message-ID: <011601ca6858$227823b0$67686b10$@com>

This is a great and handy tool!  Thanks!

Will
Mruniverse08 at gmail.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:05 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool

I thought I should post this here since no one yet has done so.

I can tell you that I wished I had that in Law School. It is very very easy
to read a case on Google with JAWS.

I strongly advise law students to use it whenever your task is to simply
read a case... it is much faster than Westlaw. IT is not, however, a
replacement of Westlaw and others. It is a basic tool to search for and read
states and federal caselaw.

Go to 
www.scholar.google.com

type your search and down arrow to select the check box that says legal
research or something to that effect.

Enjoy...

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending 
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
Houston 
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Wed Nov 18 14:59:00 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:59:00 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
In-Reply-To: <011601ca6858$227823b0$67686b10$@com>
References: <C366B29BFDCA423A9592838FCA9EE2F3@RodelynPC>
	<011601ca6858$227823b0$67686b10$@com>
Message-ID: <02D7BDCD0B81423DB44B4DD7BFA1AD82@StevePC>

Wow!   That is a cool tool.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool


> This is a great and handy tool!  Thanks!
>
> Will
> Mruniverse08 at gmail.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:05 AM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
>
> I thought I should post this here since no one yet has done so.
>
> I can tell you that I wished I had that in Law School. It is very very 
> easy
> to read a case on Google with JAWS.
>
> I strongly advise law students to use it whenever your task is to simply
> read a case... it is much faster than Westlaw. IT is not, however, a
> replacement of Westlaw and others. It is a basic tool to search for and 
> read
> states and federal caselaw.
>
> Go to
> www.scholar.google.com
>
> type your search and down arrow to select the check box that says legal
> research or something to that effect.
>
> Enjoy...
>
> Rod Alcidonis
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
> Philadelphia, PA
> Licensed in PA -- NJ pending
> C. 718-704-4651
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
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From stiehm.law at juno.com  Wed Nov 18 15:58:24 2009
From: stiehm.law at juno.com (stiehm.law)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:58:24 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
Message-ID: <20091118.075908.5900.38774@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com>

This is indeed a nice tool for both lawyers as well as law students.  The
original post is correct that it is not a replacement for Westlaw,
Fastcase or other legal research sources that you may have access to but
for a quick read of something you already have, it is hard to beat.

Patrick H. Stiehm
Stiehm Law Office
Alexandria, VA 22309
703-360-1089 (Voice)
703-935-8266 (Fax)


On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:04:56 -0600 "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com> writes:
> This is a great and handy tool!  Thanks!
> 
> Will
> Mruniverse08 at gmail.com 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:05 AM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
> 
> I thought I should post this here since no one yet has done so.
> 
> I can tell you that I wished I had that in Law School. It is very 
> very easy
> to read a case on Google with JAWS.
> 
> I strongly advise law students to use it whenever your task is to 
> simply
> read a case... it is much faster than Westlaw. IT is not, however, 
> a
> replacement of Westlaw and others. It is a basic tool to search for 
> and read
> states and federal caselaw.
> 
> Go to 
> www.scholar.google.com
> 
> type your search and down arrow to select the check box that says 
> legal
> research or something to that effect.
> 
> Enjoy...
> 
> Rod Alcidonis
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
> Philadelphia, PA
> Licensed in PA -- NJ pending 
> C. 718-704-4651
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles 
> Hamilton
> Houston 
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Nov 19 16:36:39 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:36:39 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Implement Disability Diversity at Work with 3 Easy
 Steps from the American Bar Association
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4ABA08@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



________________________________
From: Commission on Mental and Physical Disability Law [mailto:cmpdl at abanet.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:35 AM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: Implement Disability Diversity at Work with 3 Easy Steps from the American Bar Association

If you are having trouble viewing this e-mail, visit: http://www.abanet.org/disability/conferences/3easysteps.shtml<http://maestro.abanet.org/trk/click?ref=zpqri74vj_3-ba3cx3e513x1825&>

3 Easy Steps from the American Bar Association for Implementing Disability Diversity in Your Legal Workplace

Step 1: Make the pledge

Disability Diversity in the Legal Profession:
A Pledge for Change

The ABA Commission on Mental and Physical Disability Law is promoting "Disability Diversity in the Legal Profession: A Pledge for Change," a one-page pledge for legal employers to sign. The Pledge affirms the signatory's commitment to diversity, specifically, disability diversity, and recognizes that diversity is in the best interest of the profession, those the profession serves, as well as the organization making the commitment.

Please have your firm, company, agency, or organization sign the Pledge, and be recognized on the ABA Commission's "Diversity Honor Roll."

For details and instructions, visit:

http://www.abanet.org/disability/pledge<http://maestro.abanet.org/trk/click?ref=zpqri74vj_3-ba3cx3e514x1825&>

Step 2: Read the report
The Second National Conference on the Employment of Lawyers with Disabilities: A Report from the American Bar Association to the Legal Profession (Nov. 2009) - FREE!
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 *   The status of lawyers and law students with disabilities, including statistics and surveys, and why we need lawyers with disabilities in the profession
 *   How to make the transition from law school to the workplace with a disability
 *   Personal stories from lawyers with disabilities, including the first blind U.S. Supreme Court clerk, an associate General Counsel, and a White House official
 *   How and why you should recruit, hire, retain, and promote lawyers with disabilities
 *   Practical tips on how to make your place of employment both welcoming and legally compliant for those with disabilities
 *   ABA and state and local bar association programs and policies for lawyers with disabilities-the definitive source of disability information in the legal profession
 *   And much more!

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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov 19 17:38:49 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:38:49 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Implement Disability Diversity at Work with 3
	Easy Steps from the American Bar Association
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4ABA08@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <149e01ca693f$27546960$6601a8c0@server>

Would this tepid approach be tolerated by women when it comes to promoting 
gender diversity in the workplace?

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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:36 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Implement Disability Diversity at Work with 3 Easy 
Steps from the American Bar Association


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>
> ________________________________
> From: Commission on Mental and Physical Disability Law 
> [mailto:cmpdl at abanet.org]
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:35 AM
> To: Nightingale, Noel
> Subject: Implement Disability Diversity at Work with 3 Easy Steps from the 
> American Bar Association
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>
> 3 Easy Steps from the American Bar Association for Implementing Disability 
> Diversity in Your Legal Workplace
>
> Step 1: Make the pledge
>
> Disability Diversity in the Legal Profession:
> A Pledge for Change
>
> The ABA Commission on Mental and Physical Disability Law is promoting 
> "Disability Diversity in the Legal Profession: A Pledge for Change," a 
> one-page pledge for legal employers to sign. The Pledge affirms the 
> signatory's commitment to diversity, specifically, disability diversity, 
> and recognizes that diversity is in the best interest of the profession, 
> those the profession serves, as well as the organization making the 
> commitment.
>
> Please have your firm, company, agency, or organization sign the Pledge, 
> and be recognized on the ABA Commission's "Diversity Honor Roll."
>
> For details and instructions, visit:
>
> http://www.abanet.org/disability/pledge<http://maestro.abanet.org/trk/click?ref=zpqri74vj_3-ba3cx3e514x1825&>
>
> Step 2: Read the report
> The Second National Conference on the Employment of Lawyers with 
> Disabilities: A Report from the American Bar Association to the Legal 
> Profession (Nov. 2009) - FREE!
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> *   The status of lawyers and law students with disabilities, including 
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> *   How to make the transition from law school to the workplace with a 
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> *   How and why you should recruit, hire, retain, and promote lawyers with 
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> *   ABA and state and local bar association programs and policies for 
> lawyers with disabilities-the definitive source of disability information 
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> *   And much more!
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From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Fri Nov 20 08:51:41 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:51:41 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as blind
	attorney?
Message-ID: <094C6B3EB5E24A0794BF22112740E2CD@RodelynPC>

An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I have been thinking about. 

Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:

 where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order, which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or, the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day of the hearing and you are given a copy? 

Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date months down the line).

I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic devices?

I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant, but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the suggestions in advance.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending 
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
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From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Fri Nov 20 08:54:47 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:54:47 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Immigration practice
Message-ID: <FA75C81B0C8E4D439AAB7D8B60EAE8BD@RodelynPC>

Another question:

For those of you who practice immigration law, which is driven by forms, and some of which aren't accessible, do you mind if I contact you to get some tips about developing a practice in that area as a blind attorney?

Thanks thanks.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending 
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston 

From lists at zufelt.ca  Fri Nov 20 09:52:52 2009
From: lists at zufelt.ca (E.J. Zufelt)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:52:52 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings and inaccessible
	documents
Message-ID: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>

Good morning,

I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations for best practices  
for blind parties to a legal proceeding who find it difficult to deal  
with filings and documents submitted by other parties that are not in  
an accessible format.  With, or without council, I believe that a  
blind party to a proceeding should have equitable access to filings.

I know that the procedure for this may differ from one jurisdiction to  
the next, but it would be nice to hear how this issue is handled in  
different jurisdictions.

Thanks,
Everett

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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 20 10:22:37 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:22:37 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings and
	inaccessible	documents
In-Reply-To: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
Message-ID: <022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>

Hi Everett.

Here in Houston, just about everything has gone the way of electronic
filing.  Those filings are in pdf format.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:53 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings and inaccessible
documents

Good morning,

I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations for best practices  
for blind parties to a legal proceeding who find it difficult to deal  
with filings and documents submitted by other parties that are not in  
an accessible format.  With, or without council, I believe that a  
blind party to a proceeding should have equitable access to filings.

I know that the procedure for this may differ from one jurisdiction to  
the next, but it would be nice to hear how this issue is handled in  
different jurisdictions.

Thanks,
Everett

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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Fri Nov 20 12:32:44 2009
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:32:44 EST
Subject: [blindlaw] Immigration practice
Message-ID: <d4e.618bc54c.3837e66c@aol.com>

Rod,
 
I'm now on the DHS side, but I'm happy to share tips from when I had an  
immigration practice.  BTW, there is a brand new G-28 form that should be  
much more accessible, and there will also shortly be a fee waiver application 
as  well.
 
Feel free to give me a call or shoot me an email off-list.
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/20/2009 5:39:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
attorney at alcidonislaw.com writes:

Another  question:

For those of you who practice immigration law, which is  driven by forms, 
and some of which aren't accessible, do you mind if I contact  you to get 
some tips about developing a practice in that area as a blind  attorney?

Thanks thanks.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor  at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending 
C.  718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social  engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston  
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From rthomas at rjtlawfirm.com  Fri Nov 20 13:13:07 2009
From: rthomas at rjtlawfirm.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:13:07 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings
	andinaccessible	documents
In-Reply-To: <022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
	<022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
Message-ID: <66C9CBDC8A544B6BA6D30DF72F434211@russ>

It is more and more common for parties to stipulate to service via email.
The result is that you are immediately advised of any new filing by
opposing counsel and the pleading or document itself is attached to the
email.

email.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of WB
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:23 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings andinaccessible
documents

Hi Everett.

Here in Houston, just about everything has gone the way of electronic
filing.  Those filings are in pdf format.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:53 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings and inaccessible
documents

Good morning,

I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations for best practices  
for blind parties to a legal proceeding who find it difficult to deal  
with filings and documents submitted by other parties that are not in  
an accessible format.  With, or without council, I believe that a  
blind party to a proceeding should have equitable access to filings.

I know that the procedure for this may differ from one jurisdiction to  
the next, but it would be nice to hear how this issue is handled in  
different jurisdictions.

Thanks,
Everett

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From Cathryn.Bonnette at va.gov  Fri Nov 20 14:23:32 2009
From: Cathryn.Bonnette at va.gov (Bonnette, Cathryn (ORM))
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:23:32 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings
	andinaccessible	documents
In-Reply-To: <022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
	<022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
Message-ID: <ADF1A8970DE96E49BE5360B69BE1242D047D68B6@VANCRMSGA4.vha.med.va.gov>

I would value these messages at my home e-mail
address-cathrynisfinally at verizon.net  - not at work as it is now.
Help- thanks


Cathryn Bonnette
ADR Program Specialist
U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (08)
Office of Resolution Management (ORM)
1575 I Street, NW-10th Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Office 202-461-0513
Fax 202-501-2885
 
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http://www.va.gov/orm/ADR.asp
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If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, ou are hereby
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of WB
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:23 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings
andinaccessible documents

Hi Everett.

Here in Houston, just about everything has gone the way of electronic
filing.  Those filings are in pdf format.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On
Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:53 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings and inaccessible
documents

Good morning,

I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations for best practices  
for blind parties to a legal proceeding who find it difficult to deal  
with filings and documents submitted by other parties that are not in  
an accessible format.  With, or without council, I believe that a  
blind party to a proceeding should have equitable access to filings.

I know that the procedure for this may differ from one jurisdiction to  
the next, but it would be nice to hear how this issue is handled in  
different jurisdictions.

Thanks,
Everett

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From timandvickie at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 20 14:50:51 2009
From: timandvickie at hotmail.com (Tim Shaw)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:50:51 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] hey
In-Reply-To: <022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>,
	<022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W3306E7817DE224082605ECFA10@phx.gbl>


hey, so how have things shaped up for your wine and cheese thing tomorrow? I wanna show, but I am not sure if I will have a ride at the moment.

 

Tim
 		 	   		  
_________________________________________________________________
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http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009

From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 20 16:47:56 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:47:56 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] hey
In-Reply-To: <BAY139-W3306E7817DE224082605ECFA10@phx.gbl>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>,
	<022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
	<BAY139-W3306E7817DE224082605ECFA10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <034e01ca6a01$37ea1640$a7be42c0$@com>

Hey Tim!

Things are pretty good.  I heard your voice when I was up there interviewing
the other day.  You were gone by the time I came out.

The Wine & Cheese is shaping up well.

What's been going on with you?

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Tim Shaw
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:51 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] hey


hey, so how have things shaped up for your wine and cheese thing tomorrow? I
wanna show, but I am not sure if I will have a ride at the moment.

 

Tim
 		 	   		  
_________________________________________________________________
Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star.
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID247
27::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009
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From b75205 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 20 16:58:45 2009
From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:58:45 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings and inaccessible
	documents
In-Reply-To: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
Message-ID: <fe5b78280911200858x7fd86223o21bdeb2616afeec5@mail.gmail.com>

If a government form is not accessible to the blind, can it be challenged in
court?  I was just thinking that this might be a means of forcing
accessibility onto government agencies that are not doing the accessibility
work that they are supposed to do.  That by challenging the most basic
documents used by people would force them to act in making documents and
forms accessible.

Also, it is actually common practice to make content that is different for
the blind than what you would see on the page.  Thsi is to give instructions
to those using a screen reader.  But it is also possible that the meaning of
the conent can change, either deliberately or not and it would only be
noticed by people using a screen reader.

James Pepper

From mhartle at nfb.org  Sun Nov 22 00:53:17 2009
From: mhartle at nfb.org (Hartle,
	Mary Jo)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:53:17 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] 2010 NFB Leadership and Advocacy in Washington Program
 for Students
Message-ID: <auto-000128518755@mailfront2.g2host.com>


The National Federation of the Blind Announces
The 2010 NFB Leadership and Advocacy in Washington, D.C., (LAW) Program
Engaging the Voice of America's Blind Youth

For Youth Grades 6-9 or Ages 12-16
April 16-20, 2010
Washington, D.C., and Baltimore, MD

This four-day experience will provide blind and low vision students 
with a unique opportunity to explore the inner workings of our 
country's government, its history, and its culture while staying at 
the national headquarters for the National Federation of the Blind in 
Baltimore, MD. In addition to learning about grassroots legislation 
efforts, how resolutions are passed, and how various blindness 
legislation is brought about, participants will learn more about 
advocacy work for blind individuals and available resources for blind 
students and adults.

Highlights of the Program include:

* Visits to historical sites in Washington, D.C.
* Meetings with, and presentations from, influential government leaders
* Presentations by influential leaders from the largest blindness 
advocacy group in the country
* Tours of the National Federation of the Blind national headquarters
* A visit to the International Braille and Technology Center, the 
largest lab of accessible technology for the blind

Program Details:
* Cost: There will be a $250 fee for accepted students.  All other 
expenses including transportation, room, and board will be provided
* All accepted students must be accompanied by a parent/guardian, 
teacher, or blind/low vision mentor from their home state
* No more than twenty-five participants from across the country will 
be accepted
* Applications are due by February 1, 2010, to be considered

To learn more about this exciting new program, or to apply online, 
please visit <http://www.nfb.org/LAWProgram>www.nfb.org/LAWProgram or 
contact Mary Jo T. Hartle, director of education at (410) 659-9314, 
ext. 2407,  or by e-mail at <mailto:mhartle at nfb.org>mhartle at nfb.org.

<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

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Mary Jo Thorpe-Hartle, MEd, NOMC

Director of Education
Jernigan Institute
NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
200 East Wells Street
Baltimore, MD 21230
Phone: (410)659-9314 ext. 2407
Email: <mailto:mhartle at nfb.org>mhartle at nfb.org
Fax: (410) 659-5129
Visit <http://www.nfb.org/>www.nfb.org


From dandrews at visi.com  Sun Nov 22 03:15:39 2009
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:15:39 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] hey
In-Reply-To: <034e01ca6a01$37ea1640$a7be42c0$@com>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
	<022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
	<BAY139-W3306E7817DE224082605ECFA10@phx.gbl>
	<034e01ca6a01$37ea1640$a7be42c0$@com>
Message-ID: <auto-000127823160@mailfront1.g2host.com>

Please don't use the list for private conversations -- hundreds of 
others have to read it.

David Andrews List Owner

At 10:47 AM 11/20/2009, you wrote:
>Hey Tim!
>
>Things are pretty good.  I heard your voice when I was up there interviewing
>the other day.  You were gone by the time I came out.
>
>The Wine & Cheese is shaping up well.
>
>What's been going on with you?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Tim Shaw
>Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:51 AM
>To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>Subject: [blindlaw] hey
>
>
>hey, so how have things shaped up for your wine and cheese thing tomorrow? I
>wanna show, but I am not sure if I will have a ride at the moment.
>
>
>
>Tim
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star.
>http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID247
>27::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009
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From rfarber at jw.com  Sun Nov 22 04:46:23 2009
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:46:23 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Doctor/Medical Student List
Message-ID: <8EA167BDF4483449B67BBE3BFCB648F10E9AC2C7@pdc-mail01.jwllp.com>

Does anyone know of a list for doctors or medical students?  My daughter
is interested in becoming a doctor and would like to discuss the
advantages and disadvantages of various specialties.
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From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 23 10:32:58 2009
From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:32:58 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT>
	<BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>

Has any one used this in their practice?
If so, do you find it useful?



From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Mon Nov 23 15:32:55 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:32:55 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT><BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>
	<00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>
Message-ID: <FD5EFEBC99C34838B5270B0A74222474@RodelynPC>

Craig:

I  have one and it is great.


Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Craig Spencer" <craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:32 AM
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device

> Has any one used this in their practice?
> If so, do you find it useful?
>
>
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From Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov  Mon Nov 23 16:00:35 2009
From: Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov (Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS))
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:00:35 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
	blindattorney?
In-Reply-To: <094C6B3EB5E24A0794BF22112740E2CD@RodelynPC>
References: <094C6B3EB5E24A0794BF22112740E2CD@RodelynPC>
Message-ID: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E469@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>

If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I
suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those
very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less,
and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years
old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a
power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
It is great for the situations you describe.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
blindattorney?

An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am
interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I
have been thinking about. 

Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make
arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would
be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings
without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to
court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those
of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:

 where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the
hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that
day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order,
which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or,
the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day
of the hearing and you are given a copy? 

Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or
what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of
time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date
months down the line).

I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have
you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb
drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic
devices?

I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant,
but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the
suggestions in advance.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
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From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Mon Nov 23 20:28:19 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:28:19 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone
	asblindattorney?
In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E469@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
References: <094C6B3EB5E24A0794BF22112740E2CD@RodelynPC>
	<839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E469@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
Message-ID: <166C75ECFDD24697A6A1C1C8029ACE9A@RodelynPC>

Thanks, Ford. I will look into getting one.



Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:00 AM
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone 
asblindattorney?

> If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I
> suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those
> very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less,
> and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years
> old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a
> power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
> It is great for the situations you describe.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
> blindattorney?
>
> An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am
> interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I
> have been thinking about.
>
> Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make
> arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would
> be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings
> without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to
> court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those
> of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:
>
> where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the
> hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that
> day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order,
> which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or,
> the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day
> of the hearing and you are given a copy?
>
> Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or
> what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of
> time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date
> months down the line).
>
> I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have
> you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb
> drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic
> devices?
>
> I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant,
> but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the
> suggestions in advance.
>
> Rod Alcidonis
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
> Philadelphia, PA
> Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
> C. 718-704-4651
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Mon Nov 23 22:08:46 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT><BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>
	<00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>
Message-ID: <005001ca6c89$86e870e0$6601a8c0@server>

Hi Craig,
What is the device you mentioned?
Thanks,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Spencer" <craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device


> Has any one used this in their practice?
> If so, do you find it useful?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
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From timandvickie at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 23 23:12:18 2009
From: timandvickie at hotmail.com (Tim Shaw)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:12:18 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <005001ca6c89$86e870e0$6601a8c0@server>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT><BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>,
	<00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>,
	<005001ca6c89$86e870e0$6601a8c0@server>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W1694CA3623BA15B0B64364CF9E0@phx.gbl>


it is essentially a bar code reading system in which you have a pen that is able to scan and read labels that you put on stuff
 
> From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> Hi Craig,
> What is the device you mentioned?
> Thanks,
> Dennis
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Craig Spencer" <craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> 
> > Has any one used this in their practice?
> > If so, do you find it useful?
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > blindlaw mailing list
> > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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> 
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From pattichang at att.net  Mon Nov 23 23:22:18 2009
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti chang )
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:22:18 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone
 as	blindattorney?
Message-ID: <zLYpKmNrJLJ5.pxj0FqKL@smtp.att.yahoo.com>

I use a K-NFBI Reader.

Patti Gregory-Chang
President, NFBI
Sent from my KNFB mobile. 

-original message-
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as blindattorney?
From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
Date: 11/23/2009 11:24 AM

If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I
suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those
very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less,
and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years
old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a
power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
It is great for the situations you describe.


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
blindattorney?

An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am
interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I
have been thinking about. 

Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make
arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would
be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings
without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to
court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those
of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:

 where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the
hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that
day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order,
which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or,
the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day
of the hearing and you are given a copy? 

Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or
what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of
time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date
months down the line).

I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have
you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb
drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic
devices?

I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant,
but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the
suggestions in advance.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Mon Nov 23 23:47:28 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:47:28 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone
	as	blindattorney?
In-Reply-To: <zLYpKmNrJLJ5.pxj0FqKL@smtp.att.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED50439704CB@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

This month's Straight Talk About vision Loss episode, episode 28, is about the Intel Reader, which sounds like technology that would be useful in the courtroom situation you described.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Patti chang 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:22 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as blindattorney?

I use a K-NFBI Reader.

Patti Gregory-Chang
President, NFBI
Sent from my KNFB mobile. 

-original message-
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as blindattorney?
From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
Date: 11/23/2009 11:24 AM

If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less, and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
It is great for the situations you describe.


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as blindattorney?

An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I have been thinking about. 

Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:

 where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order, which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or, the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day of the hearing and you are given a copy? 

Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date months down the line).

I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic devices?

I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant, but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the suggestions in advance.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Nov 24 00:06:36 2009
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:06:36 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone
	as	blindattorney?
References: <zLYpKmNrJLJ5.pxj0FqKL@smtp.att.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <54BE6ABA0FF849D99FB972CEE3274661@none8a46117901>

I have learned a great deal about technology in regard to this particular 
inquiry on this list.
However, I am perhaps older than many of you and felt that maybe some of my 
old-fashioned tactics might be of some small value or use to those on this 
list. Of course, others like Scott or Noel are true pillars of wisdom, and 
I'm sure they have their own ways of doing things in a court room setting 
that are just as, or more effective than nmine.
When I am in a court room, I bring a particularly trained pair of eyes with 
me when I go to hearings. Truth be told, only courtroom hearings. Not the 
many administrative tribunal hearings I attend these days. I am so 
accustomed to those particular  settings that I do not need or want any 
"eyes" with me. But court roomm hearings, be they in State or Federal court, 
are very different.
 The reasons are, as you may expect, visual in nature. I want to know the 
reactions and cues that can come only from a visual awareness of my 
surroundings.
The reader is trained by me to use unobtrusive signals for me so that I know 
what is going on around me. She will cough, tap a pencil or touch my foot 
with hers for the specifics that I have trained her to be aware of. I want 
her to note such things as surprise, scowling, distaste, or if I am being 
ignored or not. I want to know what is going on at the other counsel table 
and what the reactions are to my evidence.
When evidence comes my way, I want either the short hand version of it, or, 
if it is a totaly unexpected piece of evidence, what it is by heading or by 
chapter - and that is one of my methods for training "eyes" for a court room 
hearing -  'outline unexpected evidence for me so that I can focus in on 
what I really want to know.
However, I mention this only because I am lucky enough to have a pair of 
eyes that are trained to my preferences. IE: they do things my way. I insist 
on that. That is my client up there, and things will be done my way. Of 
course, that also means that I exclusively own any malpractice that may come 
down on me as well.
Thus far, it has served me pretty well in court rooms in the two states 
where I am admitted to practice.
  However, I began my practice before much of the technology currently in 
use became reliable, or as small as it is now.
I end by stating without doubt that, my way of doing things is most 
certainly not for everyone. Each attorney must be at ease with his or her 
personal way of dooing things or you will not be effective in a court room.
Beyond that it is as we all know, 90% preparation and 10% inspiration.
This is how wwe each earn our own professional reputation, gray hair  and 
stomach trouble.
(I didn't know they made scanners that darn small)

 Hope this helps out some.

Ross






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patti chang " <pattichang at att.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
blindattorney?


>I use a K-NFBI Reader.
>
> Patti Gregory-Chang
> President, NFBI
> Sent from my KNFB mobile.
>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
> blindattorney?
> From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
> Date: 11/23/2009 11:24 AM
>
> If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I
> suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those
> very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less,
> and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years
> old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a
> power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
> It is great for the situations you describe.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
> blindattorney?
>
> An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am
> interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I
> have been thinking about.
>
> Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make
> arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would
> be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings
> without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to
> court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those
> of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:
>
> where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the
> hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that
> day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order,
> which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or,
> the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day
> of the hearing and you are given a copy?
>
> Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or
> what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of
> time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date
> months down the line).
>
> I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have
> you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb
> drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic
> devices?
>
> I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant,
> but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the
> suggestions in advance.
>
> Rod Alcidonis
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
> Philadelphia, PA
> Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
> C. 718-704-4651
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 24 00:09:57 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:09:57 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT><BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>,
	<00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>,
	<005001ca6c89$86e870e0$6601a8c0@server>
	<BAY139-W1694CA3623BA15B0B64364CF9E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <006801ca6c9a$751b3080$6601a8c0@server>

Hi Tim,
I appreciate the response.  Do you know where this can be purchased?
Thanks,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Shaw" <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device


>
> it is essentially a bar code reading system in which you have a pen that 
> is able to scan and read labels that you put on stuff
>
>> From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>
>> Hi Craig,
>> What is the device you mentioned?
>> Thanks,
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Craig Spencer" <craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>
>>
>> > Has any one used this in their practice?
>> > If so, do you find it useful?
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From timandvickie at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 24 02:20:49 2009
From: timandvickie at hotmail.com (Tim Shaw)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:20:49 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <006801ca6c9a$751b3080$6601a8c0@server>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT><BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>,
	, <00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>, ,
	<005001ca6c89$86e870e0$6601a8c0@server>,
	<BAY139-W1694CA3623BA15B0B64364CF9E0@phx.gbl>,
	<006801ca6c9a$751b3080$6601a8c0@server>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W1E600BD6F9BC87BEBBC4ECF9D0@phx.gbl>


Independent living has it at the address below, but you can find it on other sites as well.


 http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=756610

 
> From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:09:57 -0800
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> Hi Tim,
> I appreciate the response. Do you know where this can be purchased?
> Thanks,
> Dennis
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tim Shaw" <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> 
> >
> > it is essentially a bar code reading system in which you have a pen that 
> > is able to scan and read labels that you put on stuff
> >
> >> From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
> >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> >> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
> >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> >>
> >> Hi Craig,
> >> What is the device you mentioned?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Dennis
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Craig Spencer" <craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> >>
> >>
> >> > Has any one used this in their practice?
> >> > If so, do you find it useful?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > blindlaw mailing list
> >> > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From dandrews at visi.com  Tue Nov 24 03:07:15 2009
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:07:15 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <006801ca6c9a$751b3080$6601a8c0@server>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT>
	<BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>
	<00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>
	<005001ca6c89$86e870e0$6601a8c0@server>
	<BAY139-W1694CA3623BA15B0B64364CF9E0@phx.gbl>
	<006801ca6c9a$751b3080$6601a8c0@server>
Message-ID: <auto-000128110096@mailfront1.g2host.com>

Independent Living Aids  www.independentliving.com

Dave

At 06:09 PM 11/23/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Tim,
>I appreciate the response.  Do you know where this can be purchased?
>Thanks,
>Dennis
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Shaw" <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
>To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:12 PM
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>
>
>>
>>it is essentially a bar code reading system in which you have a pen 
>>that is able to scan and read labels that you put on stuff
>>
>>>From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
>>>To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>>
>>>Hi Craig,
>>>What is the device you mentioned?
>>>Thanks,
>>>Dennis
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" 
>>><craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>>
>>>
>>> > Has any one used this in their practice?
>>> > If so, do you find it useful?
>>> >



From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Tue Nov 24 03:29:05 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:29:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings
	aloneas	blindattorney?
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED50439704CB@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED50439704CB@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <6DDB2171091D48A9A6D3608BBC26465C@RodelynPC>

Thanks for the comments from everybody.

I agree with Ross that for a trial, a pair of eyes is the best; however, for 
preliminary hearings, bail reduction types of appearances, I am searching 
for an alternative to a good pair of eyes. I am definitely going to look 
into the small scanners.


Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 6:47 PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings aloneasblindattorney?> This month's Straight Talk About vision Loss episode, episode 28, is about 
the Intel Reader, which sounds like technology that would be useful in the 
courtroom situation you described.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Patti chang
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:22 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
> blindattorney?
>
> I use a K-NFBI Reader.
>
> Patti Gregory-Chang
> President, NFBI
> Sent from my KNFB mobile.
>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
> blindattorney?
> From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
> Date: 11/23/2009 11:24 AM
>
> If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I suggest 
> you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those very 
> little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less, and 
> they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years old, 
> works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a power 
> plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
> It is great for the situations you describe.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
> blindattorney?
>
> An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am 
> interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I have 
> been thinking about.
>
> Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make 
> arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would be 
> any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings 
> without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to 
> court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those 
> of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:
>
> where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the 
> hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that 
> day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order, which 
> you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or, the 
> opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day of the 
> hearing and you are given a copy?
>
> Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or what 
> would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of time? 
> Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date months down 
> the line).
>
> I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have 
> you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb 
> drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic 
> devices?
>
> I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant, but 
> this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the suggestions in 
> advance.
>
> Rod Alcidonis
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
> Philadelphia, PA
> Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
> C. 718-704-4651
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 24 03:37:53 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:37:53 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings
	aloneas	blindattorney?
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This is very valid. When I worked as a vocational expert for the Social 
Security Administration in the early 80's in Detroit, (one of the ways I 
paid for graduate school) I hired a per diem assistant that would be 
available to review the case files that I would be evaluating for a 
particular day. She also attended the hearings and provided much of the same 
information e.g. how the claimant appeared, noticeable affects of a 
disabling condition, appearance of pain etc. I recall one emergency 
situation where my assistant was not available and some information needed 
to be reviewed and the ALJ provided clerical support on an emergency basis.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings aloneas 
blindattorney?


>I have learned a great deal about technology in regard to this particular 
>inquiry on this list.
> However, I am perhaps older than many of you and felt that maybe some of 
> my old-fashioned tactics might be of some small value or use to those on 
> this list. Of course, others like Scott or Noel are true pillars of 
> wisdom, and I'm sure they have their own ways of doing things in a court 
> room setting that are just as, or more effective than nmine.
> When I am in a court room, I bring a particularly trained pair of eyes 
> with me when I go to hearings. Truth be told, only courtroom hearings. Not 
> the many administrative tribunal hearings I attend these days. I am so 
> accustomed to those particular  settings that I do not need or want any 
> "eyes" with me. But court roomm hearings, be they in State or Federal 
> court, are very different.
> The reasons are, as you may expect, visual in nature. I want to know the 
> reactions and cues that can come only from a visual awareness of my 
> surroundings.
> The reader is trained by me to use unobtrusive signals for me so that I 
> know what is going on around me. She will cough, tap a pencil or touch my 
> foot with hers for the specifics that I have trained her to be aware of. I 
> want her to note such things as surprise, scowling, distaste, or if I am 
> being ignored or not. I want to know what is going on at the other counsel 
> table and what the reactions are to my evidence.
> When evidence comes my way, I want either the short hand version of it, 
> or, if it is a totaly unexpected piece of evidence, what it is by heading 
> or by chapter - and that is one of my methods for training "eyes" for a 
> court room hearing -  'outline unexpected evidence for me so that I can 
> focus in on what I really want to know.
> However, I mention this only because I am lucky enough to have a pair of 
> eyes that are trained to my preferences. IE: they do things my way. I 
> insist on that. That is my client up there, and things will be done my 
> way. Of course, that also means that I exclusively own any malpractice 
> that may come down on me as well.
> Thus far, it has served me pretty well in court rooms in the two states 
> where I am admitted to practice.
>  However, I began my practice before much of the technology currently in 
> use became reliable, or as small as it is now.
> I end by stating without doubt that, my way of doing things is most 
> certainly not for everyone. Each attorney must be at ease with his or her 
> personal way of dooing things or you will not be effective in a court 
> room.
> Beyond that it is as we all know, 90% preparation and 10% inspiration.
> This is how wwe each earn our own professional reputation, gray hair  and 
> stomach trouble.
> (I didn't know they made scanners that darn small)
>
> Hope this helps out some.
>
> Ross
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patti chang " <pattichang at att.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
> blindattorney?
>
>
>>I use a K-NFBI Reader.
>>
>> Patti Gregory-Chang
>> President, NFBI
>> Sent from my KNFB mobile.
>>
>> -original message-
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
>> blindattorney?
>> From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
>> Date: 11/23/2009 11:24 AM
>>
>> If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I
>> suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those
>> very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less,
>> and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years
>> old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a
>> power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
>> It is great for the situations you describe.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
>> blindattorney?
>>
>> An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am
>> interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I
>> have been thinking about.
>>
>> Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make
>> arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would
>> be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings
>> without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to
>> court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those
>> of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:
>>
>> where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the
>> hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that
>> day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order,
>> which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or,
>> the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day
>> of the hearing and you are given a copy?
>>
>> Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or
>> what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of
>> time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date
>> months down the line).
>>
>> I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have
>> you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb
>> drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic
>> devices?
>>
>> I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant,
>> but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the
>> suggestions in advance.
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis
>> Attorney and Counselor at Law
>> Philadelphia, PA
>> Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
>> C. 718-704-4651
>> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 05:04:48 2009
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:04:48 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
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Message-ID: <70A35724BA944F18950779FD323B5748@arm4rPC>

To clarify, I don't think it reads actual bar codes. You have to use the 
labels that come with the machine. They are small and round. The person 
demonstrating it told me they did not have visible bar codes on them.

One person who was looking at it at the same time I was had decreased 
sensitivity in her fingers. She could not feel the label to find it. You do 
have to touch the pen to the label to get a reading. It was suggested that 
she put the label on a card and attach the card with a rubber band to the 
item she wanted to label.

The machine also does not have a headphone jack for private listening.

Having said all that, I can see how it could be useful in an office.

Angie

----- Original Message ----- 


From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device


> Independent Living Aids  www.independentliving.com
>
> Dave
>
> At 06:09 PM 11/23/2009, you wrote:
>>Hi Tim,
>>I appreciate the response.  Do you know where this can be purchased?
>>Thanks,
>>Dennis
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Shaw" <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
>>To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:12 PM
>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>
>>
>>>
>>>it is essentially a bar code reading system in which you have a pen that 
>>>is able to scan and read labels that you put on stuff
>>>
>>>>From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
>>>>To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
>>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>>>
>>>>Hi Craig,
>>>>What is the device you mentioned?
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Dennis
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" 
>>>><craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Has any one used this in their practice?
>>>> > If so, do you find it useful?
>>>> >
>
>
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 24 13:18:22 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:18:22 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
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Hi Dave and Tim,
Thanks for the link to the device.  It looks very useful.
Best,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device


> Independent Living Aids  www.independentliving.com
>
> Dave
>
> At 06:09 PM 11/23/2009, you wrote:
>>Hi Tim,
>>I appreciate the response.  Do you know where this can be purchased?
>>Thanks,
>>Dennis
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Shaw" <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
>>To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:12 PM
>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>
>>
>>>
>>>it is essentially a bar code reading system in which you have a pen that 
>>>is able to scan and read labels that you put on stuff
>>>
>>>>From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
>>>>To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
>>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>>>
>>>>Hi Craig,
>>>>What is the device you mentioned?
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Dennis
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" 
>>>><craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Has any one used this in their practice?
>>>> > If so, do you find it useful?
>>>> >
>
>
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From khagen12 at q.com  Tue Nov 24 18:06:00 2009
From: khagen12 at q.com (kathleen hagen)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:06:00 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings
	aloneas	blindattorney?
References: <zLYpKmNrJLJ5.pxj0FqKL@smtp.att.yahoo.com>
	<54BE6ABA0FF849D99FB972CEE3274661@none8a46117901>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP78B520A031FC30E68DE98EC99D0@phx.gbl>

I am older also and when I have to go to court, state or federal, I take an 
assistant with me for similar reasons.  Many of our administrative hearings 
are telephone conferences now and I can do those alone.  I can do other 
administrative hearings alone as well but, depending on the complexity of 
the issue, I might take someone with me.  If it's in what we call "greater 
MInnesota" (out of the twin cities) I have to have a driver in any event.
Kathleen Hagen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings aloneas 
blindattorney?


>I have learned a great deal about technology in regard to this particular 
>inquiry on this list.
> However, I am perhaps older than many of you and felt that maybe some of 
> my old-fashioned tactics might be of some small value or use to those on 
> this list. Of course, others like Scott or Noel are true pillars of 
> wisdom, and I'm sure they have their own ways of doing things in a court 
> room setting that are just as, or more effective than nmine.
> When I am in a court room, I bring a particularly trained pair of eyes 
> with me when I go to hearings. Truth be told, only courtroom hearings. Not 
> the many administrative tribunal hearings I attend these days. I am so 
> accustomed to those particular  settings that I do not need or want any 
> "eyes" with me. But court roomm hearings, be they in State or Federal 
> court, are very different.
> The reasons are, as you may expect, visual in nature. I want to know the 
> reactions and cues that can come only from a visual awareness of my 
> surroundings.
> The reader is trained by me to use unobtrusive signals for me so that I 
> know what is going on around me. She will cough, tap a pencil or touch my 
> foot with hers for the specifics that I have trained her to be aware of. I 
> want her to note such things as surprise, scowling, distaste, or if I am 
> being ignored or not. I want to know what is going on at the other counsel 
> table and what the reactions are to my evidence.
> When evidence comes my way, I want either the short hand version of it, 
> or, if it is a totaly unexpected piece of evidence, what it is by heading 
> or by chapter - and that is one of my methods for training "eyes" for a 
> court room hearing -  'outline unexpected evidence for me so that I can 
> focus in on what I really want to know.
> However, I mention this only because I am lucky enough to have a pair of 
> eyes that are trained to my preferences. IE: they do things my way. I 
> insist on that. That is my client up there, and things will be done my 
> way. Of course, that also means that I exclusively own any malpractice 
> that may come down on me as well.
> Thus far, it has served me pretty well in court rooms in the two states 
> where I am admitted to practice.
>  However, I began my practice before much of the technology currently in 
> use became reliable, or as small as it is now.
> I end by stating without doubt that, my way of doing things is most 
> certainly not for everyone. Each attorney must be at ease with his or her 
> personal way of dooing things or you will not be effective in a court 
> room.
> Beyond that it is as we all know, 90% preparation and 10% inspiration.
> This is how wwe each earn our own professional reputation, gray hair  and 
> stomach trouble.
> (I didn't know they made scanners that darn small)
>
> Hope this helps out some.
>
> Ross
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patti chang " <pattichang at att.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
> blindattorney?
>
>
>>I use a K-NFBI Reader.
>>
>> Patti Gregory-Chang
>> President, NFBI
>> Sent from my KNFB mobile.
>>
>> -original message-
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
>> blindattorney?
>> From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
>> Date: 11/23/2009 11:24 AM
>>
>> If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I
>> suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those
>> very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less,
>> and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years
>> old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a
>> power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
>> It is great for the situations you describe.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
>> blindattorney?
>>
>> An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am
>> interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I
>> have been thinking about.
>>
>> Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make
>> arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would
>> be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings
>> without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to
>> court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those
>> of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:
>>
>> where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the
>> hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that
>> day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order,
>> which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or,
>> the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day
>> of the hearing and you are given a copy?
>>
>> Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or
>> what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of
>> time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date
>> months down the line).
>>
>> I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have
>> you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb
>> drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic
>> devices?
>>
>> I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant,
>> but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the
>> suggestions in advance.
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis
>> Attorney and Counselor at Law
>> Philadelphia, PA
>> Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
>> C. 718-704-4651
>> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>> Houston _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 01:23:44 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:23:44 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Off-Topic:  Happy Thanksgiving
Message-ID: <02ea01ca6e37$1933eb10$4b9bc130$@com>

I know this is off topic for the list but I just wanted to wish everyone a
Happy Thanksgiving.


From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov 26 01:40:16 2009
From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:40:16 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Off-Topic:  Happy Thanksgiving
References: <02ea01ca6e37$1933eb10$4b9bc130$@com>
Message-ID: <59D426DCF91C4EF0B1E88A0FD03567F1@DANELLIEVANDAWN>

Dear WB:

Thank you.  Seems right on topic to me.  I, also, hope all you ladies and 
gents out there have a safe and blessed Thanksgiving weekend.

Dan McBride
Fort Worth, Texas
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To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:23 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Off-Topic: Happy Thanksgiving


>I know this is off topic for the list but I just wanted to wish everyone a
> Happy Thanksgiving.
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From editor.nftb at gmail.com  Sat Nov 28 12:59:47 2009
From: editor.nftb at gmail.com (Will May)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:59:47 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] www.NewspapersForTheBlind.ORG lawsuit/NYTimes Company
Message-ID: <bd5993380911280459l593a8242i5c9c848688266868@mail.gmail.com>

28th November, 2009
Maryland

Hello all;

I am the editor of www.NewspapersForTheBlind.ORG which is a vocal
newspaper reading service for the hearing-impaired blind. We
human-read the newspaper articles, as opposed to synthetic speech, to
also reach the many hearing-impaired blind; particularly the aged.

We instituted this service in reaction to curtailed radio newspaper
reading by carrier-wave by NPR stations due to budget cuts.

The NYTimes outsources its copyright licensing.  We contacted the
outsource asking prior permission to read the text content to audio
for the blind; never receiving a response. We wrote to the NYTimes
asking permission, ending each communication with, effectively, "We'll
assume no 'No' is a yes," all to no response. All of the newspapers we
were able to dialogue with had granted us permission; naturally, the
hearing-impaired blind are not skipping a subscription to the
paper-and-ink newspaper for our service.

We have asked for the NYTimes Company's newspapers on the same terms
and delivery methods as the National Federation for the Blind enjoys
to machine-read for the only-blind at Newsline.

Is there any theory that the NYTimes must allow us content for the
hearing-impaired blind on similar terms?

Is there any theory that the NYTimes must provide an edition for the
hearing-impaired blind under the ADA?

Any helpful thoughts would be appreciated,

Kind regards,

Will May
Editor at NewspapersForTheBlind.ORG


From bspiry at comcast.net  Sun Nov 29 16:36:34 2009
From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:36:34 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea
In-Reply-To: <4aff0a77.9453f10a.4502.ffffb04e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.23.1771244944.730098.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

Helpful. Thanks. 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Robert Munro
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:52 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea

I had trouble with roman numerals too during my 1L year, both in the
outlines I prepared and in textbooks.  Here's how I dealt with the issue.

To have JAWS distinguish between Arabic and roman numerals, Open your JAWS
default dictionary and create definitions for the roman numerals.  Here are
some things to keep in mind when you do this.

1.  Have JAWS say "roman two," or something similar, for roman numeral two,
"roman three" for roman numeral three, ETC.

2.  Make sure your definitions are not case sensitive; that way, JAWS will
catch both big and little roman numerals.  Of course, you could create two
sets of definitions, one for big roman numerals and another for little ones,
with JAWS saying "big roman two" and "little roman two" respectively.  I
chose not to do this.

3.  Skip roman numerals that consist of only one letter: I, V, L, X, C, D,
and M.  These pop up too often in normal text.  It will only confuse things
if JAWS is treating them as roman numerals instead of letters.

Good luck prepping for exams.  I hope my comments have been helpful.

Onward!

Rob Munro

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Johnston
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:44 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea

Hi folks,

Thanks to everyone who sent me ideas for outlining.  Bruce, your ideas about
K1000 were especially generative.  I realized that it would be easiest (for
me) to comprehend an outline if it were in the tree format that is used to
expand/collapse folders and subfolders in Kurzweil's Save As window.  Each
level would represent a certain heading level, and opening a branch would
display its subheadings.  It would allow tracing of paths like a flow chart.
Has anyone else thought of or tried using something like this?  Is this
something that could be done in Excel?  I'm not super proficient at the
program, but would have no clue how to construct a database (perhaps the
alternative).

Using the search feature in Word to jump from a specified heading to the
same specified heading is fine, except that it is a one-trick pony unless
altering the search.  Using the move by paragraph operation is good for
moving step by step, but it doesn't allow easy comprehension of the big
picture; JAWS doesn't even do a great job distinguishing between Roman and
Arabic numerals.  Kurzweil might be a better option for creating a standard
outline, but it will take some getting used to losing the 10 digit keypad
for navigation.  So far, I've only used the program for OCR, and save the
files to Word for reading.

Thanks again!

Jay
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From bspiry at comcast.net  Sun Nov 29 17:09:53 2009
From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:09:53 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
In-Reply-To: <C366B29BFDCA423A9592838FCA9EE2F3@RodelynPC>
Message-ID: <mailman.24.1771244944.730098.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

I've found it a great way to get the cases quickly, searches pull up most of
the same hits as westlaw and Lex, no headnotes though and the page numbers
are a bit less obvious as they don't use the "**" methods. Generally for
going to a particular case or starting your research it's a fantastic
alternative.
  

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:05 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool

I thought I should post this here since no one yet has done so.

I can tell you that I wished I had that in Law School. It is very very easy
to read a case on Google with JAWS.

I strongly advise law students to use it whenever your task is to simply
read a case... it is much faster than Westlaw. IT is not, however, a
replacement of Westlaw and others. It is a basic tool to search for and read
states and federal caselaw.

Go to
www.scholar.google.com

type your search and down arrow to select the check box that says legal
research or something to that effect.

Enjoy...

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
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From qmsingleton at comcast.net  Sun Nov 29 18:46:20 2009
From: qmsingleton at comcast.net (Quintina M. Singleton)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:46:20 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Dr. Maurer on Thruoureyes
Message-ID: <auto-000128795150@mailfront1.g2host.com>


Please tune into a

very special addition of the Thruoureyes with Joe Ruffalo internet 
radio program

scheduled for Wednesday December 2

  at

8:00 PM EST.

The evening's guest will be National Federation of the Blind's 
president, Dr. Marc

Maurer.

  To listen to the program via telephone, please call

  1-605-475-6333, access code:

833520.

To access the show online visit www.thruoureyes.org/jaws.html

The call in number for anyone

interested in asking a question is 1-888-572-0141.

The theme for this program is Ask the President.

We encourage as many listeners to call in to Ask Dr. Maurer whatever 
question he

or she finds to be of importance.



From editor.nftb at gmail.com  Sun Nov 29 21:11:15 2009
From: editor.nftb at gmail.com (Will May)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:11:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [blindlaw] Join Will May on Allvoices!
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From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Mon Nov 30 13:33:32 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:33:32 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea
Message-ID: <10678CB795E343189473B61F385BF4A7@RodelynPC>

Jay:

The way I studied for big picture idea -- I would study the headings alone 
and after a few reads, I usually become comfortable with the structure of 
the given outline. I used that same technique for the bar and it worked well 
for me.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Bill Spiry" <bspiry at comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:36 AM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea

> Helpful. Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert Munro
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:52 AM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea
>
> I had trouble with roman numerals too during my 1L year, both in the
> outlines I prepared and in textbooks.  Here's how I dealt with the issue.
>
> To have JAWS distinguish between Arabic and roman numerals, Open your JAWS
> default dictionary and create definitions for the roman numerals.  Here 
> are
> some things to keep in mind when you do this.
>
> 1.  Have JAWS say "roman two," or something similar, for roman numeral 
> two,
> "roman three" for roman numeral three, ETC.
>
> 2.  Make sure your definitions are not case sensitive; that way, JAWS will
> catch both big and little roman numerals.  Of course, you could create two
> sets of definitions, one for big roman numerals and another for little 
> ones,
> with JAWS saying "big roman two" and "little roman two" respectively.  I
> chose not to do this.
>
> 3.  Skip roman numerals that consist of only one letter: I, V, L, X, C, D,
> and M.  These pop up too often in normal text.  It will only confuse 
> things
> if JAWS is treating them as roman numerals instead of letters.
>
> Good luck prepping for exams.  I hope my comments have been helpful.
>
> Onward!
>
> Rob Munro
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Johnston
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:44 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Thanks to everyone who sent me ideas for outlining.  Bruce, your ideas 
> about
> K1000 were especially generative.  I realized that it would be easiest 
> (for
> me) to comprehend an outline if it were in the tree format that is used to
> expand/collapse folders and subfolders in Kurzweil's Save As window.  Each
> level would represent a certain heading level, and opening a branch would
> display its subheadings.  It would allow tracing of paths like a flow 
> chart.
> Has anyone else thought of or tried using something like this?  Is this
> something that could be done in Excel?  I'm not super proficient at the
> program, but would have no clue how to construct a database (perhaps the
> alternative).
>
> Using the search feature in Word to jump from a specified heading to the
> same specified heading is fine, except that it is a one-trick pony unless
> altering the search.  Using the move by paragraph operation is good for
> moving step by step, but it doesn't allow easy comprehension of the big
> picture; JAWS doesn't even do a great job distinguishing between Roman and
> Arabic numerals.  Kurzweil might be a better option for creating a 
> standard
> outline, but it will take some getting used to losing the 10 digit keypad
> for navigation.  So far, I've only used the program for OCR, and save the
> files to Word for reading.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Jay
> _______________________________________________
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From Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov  Mon Nov 30 18:20:33 2009
From: Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov (Othman, Ronza)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:20:33 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Vacancy Announcement at DHS Headquarters - EEO
Message-ID: <C7A83F855C9DFC4794B8695BC4C10E6815D330@ZAU1UG-0308.DHSNET.DS1.DHS>

HQ EEO has openings for Equal Employment Specialists GS-260-11/12/13
open in USAJOBS.  The announcement closes on 12/14/2009.  Below is the
link to the full text vacancy announcement.

 

FS-301285DE-SW10
<http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?OPMControl=1739031> 

 

FS-301285MP-SW10
<http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?OPMControl=1739058> 

 

Please share with anyone who may be eligible and interested.

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Ronza M. Othman, Esq.

Policy Advisor

Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties

U.S. Department of Homeland Security

202-357-8517

202-436-4437 (cell)

ronza.othman at dhs.gov <mailto:ronza.othman at dhs.gov> 

www.dhs.gov/civilliberties <http://www.dhs.gov/civilliberties> 

 

 

 


From darlene.olsen at gmail.com  Sun Nov  1 01:02:14 2009
From: darlene.olsen at gmail.com (Darlene Olsen)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:02:14 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <699DDF99800142639E0C0A277EC0EEEC@DarleneOlsen>

Greetings J in Oregon,

     I am also a first year student.  I lost my vision approximately 2 years 
ago.  I want to learn to read braille and study law.  I typically feel that 
it is much like inventing the wheel.  I suppose that if Lady Justice can 
walk around blind folded with the scales of justice and a sword; I can trot 
around with a white cane and a victor stream reader.  I have never felt more 
passionate about anything in my life until I learned the law and the useful 
tool it is for everyone.  I felt a feeling of peace and comfort in knowing 
that there are other people that feel the same way and can relate to me as 
some withthe absence of sight and not without vision.
   Good Luck to you.
     Incidentally, I have a study buddy that was deployed to Afganistan and 
intend to do my best to help this wonderful soldier.

Respectfully,
Darlene
    I used to be a paralegal so this could give me an edge over the otherlaw 
students  Furthermore, I would note that the faculty and students are 
terrific and I hold the highest respect for the effort they place in the 
assignment and respect for each other.  s.  .

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods


> Hello all,
> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. with 
> indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard to see 
> the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like this.
>
> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Jay in Oregon
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From withat at msn.com  Sun Nov  1 17:52:38 2009
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 09:52:38 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl>
	<699DDF99800142639E0C0A277EC0EEEC@DarleneOlsen>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP584A15F6DE20A48C6EE45ED2B40@phx.gbl>

Hi Darlene,
Congrats for getting into law school.  I'll cross my fingers for you and 
your friend in Afghanistan.

Best,
Jay
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darlene Olsen" <darlene.olsen at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


> Greetings J in Oregon,
>
>     I am also a first year student.  I lost my vision approximately 2 
> years ago.  I want to learn to read braille and study law.  I typically 
> feel that it is much like inventing the wheel.  I suppose that if Lady 
> Justice can walk around blind folded with the scales of justice and a 
> sword; I can trot around with a white cane and a victor stream reader.  I 
> have never felt more passionate about anything in my life until I learned 
> the law and the useful tool it is for everyone.  I felt a feeling of peace 
> and comfort in knowing that there are other people that feel the same way 
> and can relate to me as some withthe absence of sight and not without 
> vision.
>   Good Luck to you.
>     Incidentally, I have a study buddy that was deployed to Afganistan and 
> intend to do my best to help this wonderful soldier.
>
> Respectfully,
> Darlene
>    I used to be a paralegal so this could give me an edge over the 
> otherlaw students  Furthermore, I would note that the faculty and students 
> are terrific and I hold the highest respect for the effort they place in 
> the assignment and respect for each other.  s.  .
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hello all,
>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>> this.
>>
>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>
>> Thanks much.
>>
>> Jay in Oregon
>> _______________________________________________
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov  3 00:20:24 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:20:24 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>

Hi Jay,
I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next layer 
A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand margin how 
many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily enables you to go 
back and add additional sub layers as your outline evolves.  Also, when you 
discover that you need an additional highest level layer between A and B for 
example, then the inserted layer can be AA and so on.

Which law school are you attending?
Best,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods


> Hello all,
> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. with 
> indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard to see 
> the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like this.
>
> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Jay in Oregon
> _______________________________________________
> blindlaw mailing list
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> blindlaw:
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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Tue Nov  3 00:57:12 2009
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:57:12 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
In-Reply-To: <03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl>
	<03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>
Message-ID: <46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>

I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead to 
the next heading, no matter the level.

Angie




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


> Hi Jay,
> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
> Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
> for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next 
> layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand 
> margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily enables 
> you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline evolves. 
> Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest level layer 
> between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be AA and so on.
>
> Which law school are you attending?
> Best,
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hello all,
>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>> this.
>>
>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>
>> Thanks much.
>>
>> Jay in Oregon
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindlaw mailing list
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> blindlaw:
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennisgclark%40sbcglobal.net
>
>
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov  3 01:28:45 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:28:45 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl><03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>
	<46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
Message-ID: <040b01ca5c24$fc80d4c0$6601a8c0@server>

Hi Angie,
I went to law school last century and there was no HTML.  It's a very good 
idea!
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead to 
>the next heading, no matter the level.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hi Jay,
>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
>> Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
>> for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next 
>> layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand 
>> margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>> AA and so on.
>>
>> Which law school are you attending?
>> Best,
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>>> this.
>>>
>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Jay in Oregon
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> blindlaw:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennisgclark%40sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
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>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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>> blindlaw:
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>
>
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From bjsexton at comcast.net  Tue Nov  3 02:15:08 2009
From: bjsexton at comcast.net (Bruce Sexton Jr.)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:15:08 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl><03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>
	<46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
Message-ID: <1E5A0BED8BBC4F7FA3EDD06DFFA92A40@SLIM>

please take me off this list.

Thanks,
Bruce
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead to 
>the next heading, no matter the level.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hi Jay,
>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
>> Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
>> for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next 
>> layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand 
>> margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>> AA and so on.
>>
>> Which law school are you attending?
>> Best,
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>>> this.
>>>
>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Jay in Oregon
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> blindlaw:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennisgclark%40sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> blindlaw:
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com
>
>
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From bjsexton at comcast.net  Tue Nov  3 02:16:28 2009
From: bjsexton at comcast.net (Bruce Sexton Jr.)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:16:28 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl><03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>
	<46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
Message-ID: <52DA3CE5392F41AFA66277B1FBED8DB8@SLIM>

sorry guys, I wrote to the wrong list!  I am still interested in this list.

-Bruce
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead to 
>the next heading, no matter the level.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hi Jay,
>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
>> Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
>> for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next 
>> layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand 
>> margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>> AA and so on.
>>
>> Which law school are you attending?
>> Best,
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>>> this.
>>>
>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Jay in Oregon
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> blindlaw:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennisgclark%40sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> blindlaw:
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com
>
>
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov  3 05:09:14 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:09:14 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl><03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server><46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
	<1E5A0BED8BBC4F7FA3EDD06DFFA92A40@SLIM>
Message-ID: <042701ca5c43$c9bdbde0$6601a8c0@server>

Hello Bruce,
To unsubscribe I think you need to go to the following link.
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bjsexton%40comcast.net
Good luck
Dennis



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Sexton Jr." <bjsexton at comcast.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


> please take me off this list.
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead 
>>to the next heading, no matter the level.
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jay,
>>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word 
>>> or Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering 
>>> system for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The 
>>> next layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left 
>>> hand margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>>> AA and so on.
>>>
>>> Which law school are you attending?
>>> Best,
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be 
>>>> hard to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document 
>>>> like this.
>>>>
>>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much.
>>>>
>>>> Jay in Oregon
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>>> blindlaw:
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennisgclark%40sbcglobal.net
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> blindlaw:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gmail.com
>>
>>
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>
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From JFreeh at nfb.org  Wed Nov  4 02:34:07 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:34:07 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] NFB President Marc Maurer to Receive Award from
 University of Notre Dame
Message-ID: <auto-000124846981@mailfront1.g2host.com>


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE



CONTACT:

Chris Danielsen

Director of Public Relations

National Federation of the Blind

(410) 659-9314, extension 2330

(410) 262-1281 (Cell)

<mailto:cdanielsen at nfb.org>cdanielsen at nfb.org



NFB President Marc Maurer to Receive Award
from University of Notre Dame



Award Honors Maurer's Outstanding Contributions in Public Service



Notre Dame, Indiana (November 2, 2009): The National Federation of 
the Blind (NFB), the largest organization of blind people in the 
United States, today announced that its president, Dr. Marc Maurer, 
will be presented the Rev. John J. Cavanaugh, C.S.C., Award from the 
University of Notre Dame Alumni Association in a ceremony on November 
5.  Maurer, a 1974 graduate from the University of Notre Dame, will 
be honored for outstanding contributions in the field of public service.

Maurer earned his law degree from Indiana University in 1977 and 
began focusing on representing blind individuals in the courts.  A 
member of the Bar in Indiana, Ohio, Iowa, Maryland, and the Bar of 
the Supreme Court, Maurer is one of the most experienced lawyers in 
the field of civil rights and discrimination against the blind.

Maurer has been president of the National Federation of the Blind 
since 1986.  In that capacity, he has joined President George W. Bush 
in the Oval Office in 2001 to celebrate the organization's Everest 
Expedition, and was present for Bush's signing into law the Help 
America Vote Act of 2002.  He has promoted new technology for the 
blind, including the knfbReader Mobile, a revolutionary cell phone 
application that scans and reads aloud most printed material, and the 
prototype vehicle for the Blind Driver Challenge.  He has overseen 
the visionary expansion of the NFB Jernigan Institute, the first 
training and research institute for the blind, led by the blind.  He 
has also previously served as president of the North 
America/Caribbean Region of the World Blind Union.

Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
said: "I am honored to receive this award from my alma mater.  As 
president of the largest organization of blind people in the United 
States, I have been fortunate to play a role in many exciting and 
life-changing developments for blind people in America.  While we 
have made much progress, there is still more to be done.  Only 10 
percent of blind children are learning Braille in this country, and 
this directly contributes to a 70 percent unemployment rate among 
blind people in the United States.  I humbly accept this award on 
behalf of blind Americans and pledge to work harder than ever to 
ensure that the blind are not left behind in today's society."



"In his role as president of the National Federation of the Blind, 
Marc Maurer continually demonstrates unwavering determination in his 
effort to better the lives of the world's blind through innovative 
technologies and services that support their independence," said 
Charles F. Lennon Jr., executive director of the Notre Dame Alumni 
Association and associate vice president for University 
Relations.  "The Notre Dame Alumni Association is pleased to honor 
Marc for his personal character and outstanding contributions in 
public service.  He is a living example of the integrity and 
generosity of spirit that Notre Dame instills in its graduates.  His 
leadership of the NFB has made the University proud."



For more information about the National Federation of the Blind, 
please visit <http://www.nfb.org/>www.nfb.org.



###


From JFreeh at nfb.org  Wed Nov  4 02:49:52 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:49:52 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF BAR EXAMINERS (NCBE)
 DISCRIMINATES AGAINST BLIND AND LOW VISION LAW SCHOOL GRADUATES
Message-ID: <auto-000124848387@mailfront1.g2host.com>


NEWS 
RELEASE 


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

November 3, 2009





CONTACTS:

Chris Danielsen, Director of Public Relations, NFB, (410) 659-9314, ext. 2330

Scott Labarre, Labarre Law Offices, P.C., (303) 504-5979

Daniel Goldstein, Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP, (410) 962-1030

Larry Paradis, Disability Rights Advocates, (510) 665-8644





NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF BAR EXAMINERS (NCBE) DISCRIMINATES AGAINST 
BLIND AND LOW VISION LAW SCHOOL GRADUATES



OAKLAND, Calif. - A suit filed today in Federal court alleges that 
The National Conference of Bar Examiners (NCBE) discriminates against 
blind and low vision law school graduates. The suit charges that the 
NCBE is violating Title III of the Americans with Disabilities Act 
(ADA) and California's civil rights law by denying accommodations on 
the Multistate Bar Exam (MBE) and the Multistate Professional 
Responsibility Exam (MPRE) to a law school graduate who is blind.



The Plaintiff is represented with the support of the National 
Federation of the Blind ("NFB") by Labarre Law Offices, P.C., in 
Denver, CO, and by Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP, in Baltimore, MD. 
The Plaintiff is further represented by Disability Rights Advocates 
(DRA), a non-profit law center that specializes in civil rights cases 
on behalf of persons with disabilities, based in Berkeley, CA.



The NCBE provides standardized examinations for the testing of 
applicants for admission to the practice of law. Two of the tests it 
controls, the Multistate Bar Exam (MBE) and the Multistate 
Professional Responsibility Examination (MPRE) are required for 
admission to the bar by most states. The California Bar examination 
has two sections; a California section and the MBE. Although both 
parts of the exam are administered by the California State Bar, the 
NCBE controls the type of accommodations each state can offer test 
takers with disabilities for the MBE portion of the bar exam.



Even though the California State Bar is a named Defendant in the 
suit, they have offered to provide the Plaintiff with all the 
accommodations she requested for the California section of the bar 
examination. However, the NCBE refuses to allow the California Bar 
Examiners to give the Plaintiff certain of the accommodations that 
she needs on the MBE portion of the bar exam. The California State 
Bar is fulfilling its legal obligation and is only named in the 
complaint as an indispensable party. Plaintiff hopes that the lawsuit 
will convince the NCBE to follow the California State Bar's example 
and provide the requested accommodations on the MBE portion of the bar exam.



The NCBE has also denied Plaintiff the accommodations at issue on the 
MPRE exam.  This is a separate exam that bar applicants need to pass 
to be admitted to practice.  The ACT is also named in the complaint 
since it administers the MPRE examination for NCBE and is thus also 
an indispensable party.



The Plaintiff Stephanie Enyart is a law school graduate who is 
legally blind and requires accommodations to take the MBE and MPRE. 
She has requested to take the exams on a laptop computer equipped 
with screen reading (JAWS) and screen magnification (ZoomText) 
software. Ms. Enyart has relied on this combination of assistive 
technology as an accommodation on her exams throughout law school and 
in her current legal work.



The NCBE has refused to allow Ms. Enyart these reasonable 
accommodations for the MBE and MPRE on several occasions during the 
past years. In recent discussions with Plaintiff's counsel, the NCBE 
has indicated that it will continue to deny Ms. Enyart her requested 
accommodations.  Instead, the NCBE has offered alternative 
accommodations that are not suited to Ms. Enyart's disability and are 
not effective. The NCBE's denials of accommodations are preventing 
Ms. Enyart from obtaining admission to the bar, impeding her career.



Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind 
(NFB), supporting the lawsuit, said "Too often law students who are 
blind or have low vision have to prolong their prospects for 
licensing while they fight to get the same accommodations they've had 
throughout their educational history. Those that opt to settle for 
inadequate accommodations usually struggle to pass or sometimes do 
not pass at all. Those who control admission to the practice of law 
must obey the law."



Janice Ta, President of the National Association of Law Students with 
Disabilities (NALSWD), which expressed support for the lawsuit, said 
"The legal profession must recognize and be prepared for the spectrum 
of conditions and disabilities that law students have. Testing 
entities need to be open to a wide range of accommodations. But we 
find that time and again they don't seem to understand their 
obligation for providing individualized accommodations and adaptive 
technologies that reflect the way real law students with disabilities 
get tested, study, and make their way around the world."







###

From JFreeh at nfb.org  Wed Nov  4 03:09:20 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:09:20 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind Announces 2010
 Scholarship Program
Message-ID: <auto-000126059822@mailfront2.g2host.com>


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE



CONTACT:

Chris Danielsen

Director of Public Relations

National Federation of the Blind

(410) 659-9314, extension 2330

(410) 262-1281 (Cell)

cdanielsen at nfb.org


National Federation of the Blind Announces 2010 Scholarship Program




Thirty Scholarships Available to College and Postgraduate Students



Baltimore, Maryland (November 3, 2009):  The National Federation of 
the Blind, the oldest and largest organization of blind people in the 
United States, announced today that applications are now being 
accepted for the 2010 National Federation of the Blind Scholarship 
Program.  Thirty scholarships totaling $100,000 will be awarded to 
blind students from the United States and Puerto Rico.  The 
scholarships are available to blind students who will be enrolled in 
college or a graduate program beginning in the fall of 2010, 
including incoming freshmen.  Scholarships range in value from $3,000 
to $12,000.



Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
said: "The National Federation of the Blind Scholarship Program is 
the Federation's way of recognizing outstanding academic achievement 
by blind students and spreading our positive philosophy of blindness 
to these students and to the general public.  Because of the 
collective efforts of blind Americans, blind people today are 
achieving greater academic success and entering fields of study once 
thought closed to the blind, and celebrating their achievements is 
always a highlight of our national convention.  I join the 
Scholarship Committee in inviting every eligible blind student to 
submit an application, and I look forward to meeting the dynamic 
individuals that will make up the 2010 National Federation of the 
Blind scholarship class."



Information on the NFB scholarship program is posted online at 
<http://www.nfb.org/scholarships>www.nfb.org/scholarships.  The 
deadline for applications is March 31, 2010.

Questions may be directed to the NFB Scholarship Committee Chairman, 
Mr. Anil Lewis, by e-mail at 
<mailto:Scholarships at nfb.org>Scholarships at nfb.org, or by phone at 
(410) 659 -9314, extension 2415.


From blind411 at verizon.net  Wed Nov  4 03:22:35 2009
From: blind411 at verizon.net (Marion Gwizdala)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:22:35 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Guide Dogs in Hospitals & Other Health Care Facilities
Message-ID: <auto-000124850682@mailfront1.g2host.com>

National Association of Guide Dog Users
National Federation of the Blind

October 27, 2009

Guide Dogs in Hospitals & Other Health Care Facilities

             What are your rights as a guide dog user when visiting 
family or friends in the hospital? As a patient, do you have the 
right to have your dog in the room with you? Are there places or 
conditions in which you can be restricted from being accompanied by 
your guide dog? Can your doctor deny you the right to have your guide 
dog with you in an examination room? Can an ambulance refuse to 
transport your guide dog with you? These questions and many more will 
be answered in an upcoming  special teleseminar.
             The National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU), a 
strong and proud division of the National Federation of the Blind, 
will host "Guide Dogs in Hospitals & Other Health Care Facilities" on 
Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 8:00 p.m. eastern  standard Time (7:00 
pm Central; 6:00 pm Mountain; and 5:00 pm Pacific). This teleseminar 
is absolutely free; however reservations are required. Participation 
is limited and is on a first come first served basis.
             In order to reserve your space in this teleseminar, 
please send your name, city & state, and your email address by 
Friday, November 20, 2009 to
<mailto:President at NFB-NAGDU.ORG>President at NFB-NAGDU.ORG
An email confirmation with the call-in number and access codes will 
be sent to you. Those without email access or who would like more 
information may call 813-626-2789.
             The information provided during this teleseminar is 
intended as informal guidance only and should not be construed as 
legal advice. The National Association of Guide Dog Users, the 
National Federation of the Blind, or any of its affiliates, 
divisions, or chapters will not be responsible for any telephone 
charges or fees that may be incurred as the result of participation 
in this seminar. For more information about the National Association 
of Guide Dog Users, the National Federation of the Blind, or to 
locate a Chapter in your area, you may visit the following websites:

National Association of Guide Dog Users
HTTP://NFB-NAGDU.ORG

National Federation of the Blind
<http://nfb.org/>HTTP://NFB.ORG

The National Federation of the Blind is changing what it means to be blind!
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From withat at msn.com  Wed Nov  4 06:13:56 2009
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:13:56 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <cbf.4a5598b2.381e04f8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1405B8D4E2467523E7C8F8D2B10@phx.gbl>

Thank you, Ronza!  This two-styled approach is a neat idea.  I will 
definitely experiment with it.  I really appreciate your feedback and 
outline excerpt.

Thanks!
Jay
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


> Jay,
>
> Welcome to the list.
>
> You raise an excellent point.  I had the same problem trying to figure 
> out
> the big picture with the outline method at first.  I ultimately  developed
> the habit of creating two outlines.  The first one was a really  general 
> big
> picture sort - less than a page.  Think of it as a sort of  table of
> contents, if you want.  I even went back and added page numbers to  my 
> other
> outline later.  I modeled this one-pager after the course sylabus 
> outline.  I
> also created it near the beginning of the semester so that I  had a sense 
> of
> where we were headed.  I've pasted portions of that  one-pager at the 
> bottom
> of this email for your reference.
>
> Then I would take that really general "big picture" outline and fill it in
> with specific cases, concepts, and exceptions.  So I might include things
> like "definition" or a specific case name and short description under one 
> of
> the  subcategories.  By the time the term ended, I'd have just as long an
> outline as everyone else, but I also had the one-pager, which was great 
> for
> little cram sessions and to keep me grounded.  In fact, I actually 
> compiled
> all the one-pagers and used them to help me study for the bar exam.
>
> Let me know if you want me to send you other examples.
>
> Good luck,
> Ronza
>
>
> Course Title: Torts
> I. Intentional Torts
> A. Assault
> B. Battery
> C. False Imprisonment
> D. Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress (IIED)
> E. Trespass to Land
> ...
> II. Harm to Economic and Dignitary Interests
> A. Defamation
> B. Invasion of Privacy
> C. Misrepresentation
> D. Interference with Business Relations
> ...
> III. Negligence
> A. Prima Facia Case
>    1. Duty
>    2. Breach
>    3. Causation
>    4. Damages
> B. Defenses
>    1. Contributory Negligence
>    2. Comparative Negligence
>    3. Assumption of Risk
>    4. Strict Liability
> ...
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/31/2009 3:22:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> withat at msn.com writes:
>
> Hello  all,
> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a  recent
> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This  is my first 
> year
> in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question  whether the 
> typical
> method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters,  etc. with
> indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be  hard to 
> see the big
> picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like  this.
>
> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>
> Thanks  much.
>
> Jay in  Oregon
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From withat at msn.com  Wed Nov  4 06:36:33 2009
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:36:33 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl><03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>
	<46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP34BF4B745D6AE845A2C0D9D2B10@phx.gbl>

Hi Angie,
Could you e-mail me off list?  I have some questions about your response if 
you have time.  Thanks.

Hi Dennis,
Thanks for this info.  Like you, I might rely on simplicity, especially 
since I don't have the time to climb a big learning curve right now.  The 
letters and numbers that you type in the left margin... were you using 
Word's autoformatting feature?  Autoformatting seems like a powerful tool 
for outlining but I'm not as familiar with it as I would like.  A friend 
uses the "notebook" feature of her Word 2007 for Mac to create her outlines. 
It appears to be an autoformat setting, but I don't see it on my pc.  Does 
anyone know if there are multiple autoformats from which to choose, and if 
so, where in Word they are selected?

Thanks all!

Jay

PS  Dennis, I am attending Lewis & Clark, a school in Portland.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead to 
>the next heading, no matter the level.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hi Jay,
>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
>> Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
>> for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next 
>> layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand 
>> margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>> AA and so on.
>>
>> Which law school are you attending?
>> Best,
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>>> this.
>>>
>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Jay in Oregon
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindlaw mailing list
>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> blindlaw:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dennisgclark%40sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
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From Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov  Thu Nov  5 14:40:38 2009
From: Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov (Othman, Ronza)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:40:38 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Vacancy Announcement with DHS
Message-ID: <C7A83F855C9DFC4794B8695BC4C10E689EF8C2@ZAU1UG-0308.DHSNET.DS1.DHS>

CRCL EEO Programs Division has openings for Supervisory EEO Specialists
open on USA Jobs.  The vacancy announcements close on November 17, 2009.
Please see the link and share with any who may be eligible.

FS-295362-SW10
<http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?OPMControl=1721247> 

 

 

Ronza M. Othman, Esq.
Policy Advisor
Office for Civil Rights & Civil Liberties
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
(202) 357-8517 (office)

(202) 436-4437 (cell) 
ronza.othman at dhs.gov
www.dhs.gov/civilliberties

This message may contain agency deliberative communications, privacy
information or other information that may be privileged and exempt from
disclosure outside the agency or to the public.  Please consult with the
Department of Homeland Security, Office for Civil Rights and Civil
Liberties and the Office of General Counsel before disclosing any
information contained in this email.

 


From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Nov  5 21:44:13 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:44:13 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Justice Department Sues Colorado Attorney for Disability
 Discrimination, DOJ press release, November 3 2009
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB900@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

Text:
Department of Justice
Office of Public Affairs
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Justice Department Sues Colorado Attorney for Disability Discrimination

WASHINGTON - The United States has filed a lawsuit against Patric LeHouillier, an attorney based in Colorado Springs, Colo., alleging that he violated the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) by denying a woman with a service animal access to his offices, the Justice Department announced. The complaint, filed today in federal court in Denver, alleges that the attorney denied access to a woman, her husband and her attorney because the woman was accompanied by her service animal, an Australian Shepherd dog trained to provide disability-related assistance.

"The Americans with Disabilities Act ensures that individuals with disabilities are guaranteed the same rights and access granted to everyone, and it has prohibited discrimination against individuals who use service dogs for almost 20 years," said Thomas E. Perez, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division. "The Justice Department is committed to enforcing the ADA to protect the rights of persons with disabilities and to ensuring that all services providers understand their obligation to provide equal access."

A service animal is individually trained to work or perform tasks for the benefit of an individual with a disability. Service animals - most commonly dogs - perform a wide variety of functions. Examples of these functions include guiding persons who are blind or have low vision; alerting individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing to sounds; warning persons about impending seizures or other medical conditions; performing a variety of tasks for persons with psychiatric disabilities and picking up items, opening doors, flipping switches, providing physical support and pulling wheelchairs for individuals with mobility disabilities.

Title III of the ADA prohibits discrimination by lawyers, doctors, hospitals, restaurants, hotels, retail stores, private transportation providers and other private businesses and nonprofit organizations that provide services to the public. Title II of the ADA prohibits discrimination by public entities, including state and local governments and public transportation providers. All of these entities are prohibited from excluding individuals with disabilities from their facilities, services and programs because they use service animals. If any of these entities has a rule excluding pets or other animals, it must make an exception to that rule and permit an individual with a disability to be accompanied by a service animal.

More information about today's lawsuit, the ADA and ADA rights and responsibilities relating to service animals is available on the ADA home page at http://www.ada.gov. This information includes two publications specifically addressing service animal access: "ADA Business Brief: Service Animals" and "Commonly Asked Questions About Service Animals in Places of Business." Those interested in obtaining copies of these documents or additional information can also call the Justice Department's toll-free ADA Information Line (800) 514-0301 or (800) 514-0383 (TTY).

09-1188Civil Rights Division


Link to civil complaint:
http://www.ada.gov/lehouillier.htm

Link to press release:
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2009/November/09-crt-1188.html




From Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov  Mon Nov  9 18:30:40 2009
From: Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov (Othman, Ronza)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:30:40 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] DHS Vacancy Announcement
Message-ID: <C7A83F855C9DFC4794B8695BC4C10E689EFF1D@ZAU1UG-0308.DHSNET.DS1.DHS>

HQ EEO has an opening for a Staff Assistance open on USAJobs and will
close on November 27, 2009.  The links are provided below.  Please
forward to any and all who may be interested and eligible.

 

FS295347DE <http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?OPMControl=1720670>
- Competitive (non-government candidates) 

FS295347MP <http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?OPMControl=1720620>
- Merit Promotion or Status (current or former Federal employees)

 

Kind regards,

 

 

 

Ronza M. Othman, Esq.
Policy Advisor
Office for Civil Rights & Civil Liberties
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
(202) 357-8517 (office)

(202) 436-4437 (cell) 
ronza.othman at dhs.gov
www.dhs.gov/civilliberties

This message may contain agency deliberative communications, privacy
information or other information that may be privileged and exempt from
disclosure outside the agency or to the public.  Please consult with the
Department of Homeland Security, Office for Civil Rights and Civil
Liberties and the Office of General Counsel before disclosing any
information contained in this email.

 


From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Tue Nov 10 21:10:00 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:10:00 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Commission Seeking Interns for Spring Semester
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4AB95E@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



________________________________
From: CMPDL's Disability Discussion Docket (3D) [mailto:CMPDL-3D at MAIL.ABANET.ORG] On Behalf Of Phelan, William
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:04 PM
To: CMPDL-3D at MAIL.ABANET.ORG
Subject: Commission Seeking Interns for Spring Semester

The Commission is looking for interns (undergrad and law school) for the spring semester. Details at: http://bit.ly/2UlWnL


You can find this, and other important pieces of disability law-related information on the Commission's new Twitter page: https://twitter.com/ABADisability



William J. Phelan, IV, Esq.
Special Projects and Technology Coordinator
Commission on Mental and Physical Disability Law
American Bar Association
740 15th Street, NW, 9th Floor
Washington, DC 20005-1022

T: 202.662.1576
F: 202.442.3439
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From withat at msn.com  Wed Nov 11 23:39:08 2009
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:39:08 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining using html headings
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl><03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server>
	<46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP92326F819E016D6FE6429CD2AA0@phx.gbl>

Hi Angie,
How are html headings inserted into Word?  I am new to Word 2007, and am 
still loathing it.  I did learn how to get into outline mode, but now only 
know how to indent back and forth, and have not learned the intricacies of 
the autonumbering.  Anyway, the html headings sound compelling but I am 
clueless as how to do it.  Thanks!

Jay
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods


>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead to 
>the next heading, no matter the level.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>> Hi Jay,
>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word or 
>> Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering system 
>> for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The next 
>> layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left hand 
>> margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>> AA and so on.
>>
>> Which law school are you attending?
>> Best,
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be hard 
>>> to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like 
>>> this.
>>>
>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Jay in Oregon
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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 02:23:40 2009
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:23:40 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining using html headings
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP92326F819E016D6FE6429CD2AA0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP8AD35045E3081EA3C309CD2B50@phx.gbl><03fa01ca5c1b$703d0500$6601a8c0@server><46DE12BE515A4C4BA535A42168D30B7A@arm4rPC>
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Hi,

I just typed them in manually:

<h1> for main topic.

<h2> for the next level down, and so on.

HTH,

Angie


----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:39 PM
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> Hi Angie,
> How are html headings inserted into Word?  I am new to Word 2007, and am 
> still loathing it.  I did learn how to get into outline mode, but now only 
> know how to indent back and forth, and have not learned the intricacies of 
> the autonumbering.  Anyway, the html headings sound compelling but I am 
> clueless as how to do it.  Thanks!
>
> Jay
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>
>
>>I used html heading tags. <h1> for main heading, <h2> for the next level, 
>>etc. The advantage for me was that I could search for "<h" to move ahead 
>>to the next heading, no matter the level.
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jay,
>>> I assume you are creating your outlines using a screen reader and Word 
>>> or Kurzweil or equivalent.  I found that the most effective numbering 
>>> system for me was A. B. C. and so on.  The next layer would be A.1.  The 
>>> next layer A.1.1. and so on.  I could then immediately see at the left 
>>> hand margin how many layers deep I was for that item.  This also easily 
>>> enables you to go back and add additional sub layers as your outline 
>>> evolves. Also, when you discover that you need an additional highest 
>>> level layer between A and B for example, then the inserted layer can be 
>>> AA and so on.
>>>
>>> Which law school are you attending?
>>> Best,
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Johnston" <withat at msn.com>
>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:56 AM
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent 
>>>> thread.  What course outlining methods have you used?  This is my first 
>>>> year in law school, so everything is new to me.  I question whether the 
>>>> typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. 
>>>> with indentations would be ideal for me.  It seems like it would be 
>>>> hard to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document 
>>>> like this.
>>>>
>>>> I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much.
>>>>
>>>> Jay in Oregon
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From Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov  Thu Nov 12 21:33:05 2009
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:33:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Summer Internships Available at DHS
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Chief, Education Section
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http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/vacanneoschief-09final.htm


Attorney Advisor
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http://www.justice.gov/oarm/jobs/attorney-advisor-drs-2009.htm


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From withat at msn.com  Sat Nov 14 02:43:41 2009
From: withat at msn.com (Johnston)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:43:41 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP314FD5D472357B8AD8D2BED2A70@phx.gbl>

Hi folks,

Thanks to everyone who sent me ideas for outlining.  Bruce, your ideas about K1000 were especially generative.  I realized that it would be easiest (for me) to comprehend an outline if it were in the tree format that is used to expand/collapse folders and subfolders in Kurzweil's Save As window.  Each level would represent a certain heading level, and opening a branch would display its subheadings.  It would allow tracing of paths like a flow chart.  Has anyone else thought of or tried using something like this?  Is this something that could be done in Excel?  I'm not super proficient at the program, but would have no clue how to construct a database (perhaps the alternative).

Using the search feature in Word to jump from a specified heading to the same specified heading is fine, except that it is a one-trick pony unless altering the search.  Using the move by paragraph operation is good for moving step by step, but it doesn't allow easy comprehension of the big picture; JAWS doesn't even do a great job distinguishing between Roman and Arabic numerals.  Kurzweil might be a better option for creating a standard outline, but it will take some getting used to losing the 10 digit keypad for navigation.  So far, I've only used the program for OCR, and save the files to Word for reading.

Thanks again!

Jay

From r.g.munro at gmail.com  Sat Nov 14 19:52:22 2009
From: r.g.munro at gmail.com (Robert Munro)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:52:22 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea
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References: <BLU0-SMTP314FD5D472357B8AD8D2BED2A70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4aff0a77.9453f10a.4502.ffffb04e@mx.google.com>

I had trouble with roman numerals too during my 1L year, both in the
outlines I prepared and in textbooks.  Here's how I dealt with the issue.

To have JAWS distinguish between Arabic and roman numerals, Open your JAWS
default dictionary and create definitions for the roman numerals.  Here are
some things to keep in mind when you do this.

1.  Have JAWS say "roman two," or something similar, for roman numeral two,
"roman three" for roman numeral three, ETC.

2.  Make sure your definitions are not case sensitive; that way, JAWS will
catch both big and little roman numerals.  Of course, you could create two
sets of definitions, one for big roman numerals and another for little ones,
with JAWS saying "big roman two" and "little roman two" respectively.  I
chose not to do this.

3.  Skip roman numerals that consist of only one letter: I, V, L, X, C, D,
and M.  These pop up too often in normal text.  It will only confuse things
if JAWS is treating them as roman numerals instead of letters.

Good luck prepping for exams.  I hope my comments have been helpful.

Onward!

Rob Munro

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Johnston
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:44 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea

Hi folks,

Thanks to everyone who sent me ideas for outlining.  Bruce, your ideas about
K1000 were especially generative.  I realized that it would be easiest (for
me) to comprehend an outline if it were in the tree format that is used to
expand/collapse folders and subfolders in Kurzweil's Save As window.  Each
level would represent a certain heading level, and opening a branch would
display its subheadings.  It would allow tracing of paths like a flow chart.
Has anyone else thought of or tried using something like this?  Is this
something that could be done in Excel?  I'm not super proficient at the
program, but would have no clue how to construct a database (perhaps the
alternative).

Using the search feature in Word to jump from a specified heading to the
same specified heading is fine, except that it is a one-trick pony unless
altering the search.  Using the move by paragraph operation is good for
moving step by step, but it doesn't allow easy comprehension of the big
picture; JAWS doesn't even do a great job distinguishing between Roman and
Arabic numerals.  Kurzweil might be a better option for creating a standard
outline, but it will take some getting used to losing the 10 digit keypad
for navigation.  So far, I've only used the program for OCR, and save the
files to Word for reading.

Thanks again!

Jay
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From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:07:06 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Special Christmas Offers from GW Micro Can Get you A
 Louis Braille Commemorative Coin
Message-ID: <auto-000127786228@mailfront2.g2host.com>

Special Christmas Offers from GW Micro
From:	jeremy at gwmicro.com	
To:	gw-info at gwmicro.com 	
		
		

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Subject: [blindlaw] Come join me on iseecolor
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From Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov  Tue Nov 17 22:49:58 2009
From: Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov (Othman, Ronza)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:49:58 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] CRCL Summer Internship Opportunity
Message-ID: <C7A83F855C9DFC4794B8695BC4C10E68A815EF@ZAU1UG-0308.DHSNET.DS1.DHS>

Please distribute widely.

 

Summer student internship opportunity with the Department of Homeland
Security Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties: Closes Nov 27!

 

To see the full internship program, including opportunities in other
fields, please visit the posting on the DHS website
<http://www.aaiusa.org/page/m/4b660f7d/1ba9c5c6/8043585/1c4fba86/1067652
140/VEsH/> . Applications are being taken online
<http://www.aaiusa.org/page/m/4b660f7d/1ba9c5c6/8043585/1c4fba86/1067652
140/VEsE/> .

 

Civil Rights & Civil Liberties/Equal Employment Opportunity. 

 

"Duties may include, but are not limited to, researching topics and
helping to coordinate, and participate in, a broad scope of activities
related to engagement with American Arab, Muslim, Sikh, South Asian,
Middle Eastern, and Somali communities on civil rights issues,
researching and developing enterprise-wide training on civil rights and
civil liberties issues for DHS staff in support of the Civil Liberties
Institute, providing support to the Disability Policy Team in its effort
to proactively integrate principles of nondiscrimination on the basis of
disability in all of DHS policies, programs and activities, including
but not limited, to emergency preparedness and response, assessing
existing and proposed Department policies to determine whether they
comply with the U.S. Constitution and other applicable laws,
regulations, and policies, conducting policy research and analyses on
various topics to inform and guide CRCL's impact assessment and program
work, establishing, revising, coordinating, implementing, and advising
on the civil rights and civil liberties impact of program planning and
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components, and component responses received, to assist in the effort to
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presence, and drafting final agency actions for adjudication of
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(202) 436-4437 (cell) 
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From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Wed Nov 18 08:05:19 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:05:19 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
Message-ID: <C366B29BFDCA423A9592838FCA9EE2F3@RodelynPC>

I thought I should post this here since no one yet has done so.

I can tell you that I wished I had that in Law School. It is very very easy to read a case on Google with JAWS.

I strongly advise law students to use it whenever your task is to simply read a case... it is much faster than Westlaw. IT is not, however, a replacement of Westlaw and others. It is a basic tool to search for and read states and federal caselaw.

Go to 
www.scholar.google.com

type your search and down arrow to select the check box that says legal research or something to that effect.

Enjoy...

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending 
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston 

From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 18 14:04:56 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:04:56 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
In-Reply-To: <C366B29BFDCA423A9592838FCA9EE2F3@RodelynPC>
References: <C366B29BFDCA423A9592838FCA9EE2F3@RodelynPC>
Message-ID: <011601ca6858$227823b0$67686b10$@com>

This is a great and handy tool!  Thanks!

Will
Mruniverse08 at gmail.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:05 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool

I thought I should post this here since no one yet has done so.

I can tell you that I wished I had that in Law School. It is very very easy
to read a case on Google with JAWS.

I strongly advise law students to use it whenever your task is to simply
read a case... it is much faster than Westlaw. IT is not, however, a
replacement of Westlaw and others. It is a basic tool to search for and read
states and federal caselaw.

Go to 
www.scholar.google.com

type your search and down arrow to select the check box that says legal
research or something to that effect.

Enjoy...

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending 
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
Houston 
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From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com  Wed Nov 18 14:59:00 2009
From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:59:00 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
In-Reply-To: <011601ca6858$227823b0$67686b10$@com>
References: <C366B29BFDCA423A9592838FCA9EE2F3@RodelynPC>
	<011601ca6858$227823b0$67686b10$@com>
Message-ID: <02D7BDCD0B81423DB44B4DD7BFA1AD82@StevePC>

Wow!   That is a cool tool.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool


> This is a great and handy tool!  Thanks!
>
> Will
> Mruniverse08 at gmail.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:05 AM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
>
> I thought I should post this here since no one yet has done so.
>
> I can tell you that I wished I had that in Law School. It is very very 
> easy
> to read a case on Google with JAWS.
>
> I strongly advise law students to use it whenever your task is to simply
> read a case... it is much faster than Westlaw. IT is not, however, a
> replacement of Westlaw and others. It is a basic tool to search for and 
> read
> states and federal caselaw.
>
> Go to
> www.scholar.google.com
>
> type your search and down arrow to select the check box that says legal
> research or something to that effect.
>
> Enjoy...
>
> Rod Alcidonis
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
> Philadelphia, PA
> Licensed in PA -- NJ pending
> C. 718-704-4651
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
> Houston
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From stiehm.law at juno.com  Wed Nov 18 15:58:24 2009
From: stiehm.law at juno.com (stiehm.law)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:58:24 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
Message-ID: <20091118.075908.5900.38774@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com>

This is indeed a nice tool for both lawyers as well as law students.  The
original post is correct that it is not a replacement for Westlaw,
Fastcase or other legal research sources that you may have access to but
for a quick read of something you already have, it is hard to beat.

Patrick H. Stiehm
Stiehm Law Office
Alexandria, VA 22309
703-360-1089 (Voice)
703-935-8266 (Fax)


On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:04:56 -0600 "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com> writes:
> This is a great and handy tool!  Thanks!
> 
> Will
> Mruniverse08 at gmail.com 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:05 AM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
> 
> I thought I should post this here since no one yet has done so.
> 
> I can tell you that I wished I had that in Law School. It is very 
> very easy
> to read a case on Google with JAWS.
> 
> I strongly advise law students to use it whenever your task is to 
> simply
> read a case... it is much faster than Westlaw. IT is not, however, 
> a
> replacement of Westlaw and others. It is a basic tool to search for 
> and read
> states and federal caselaw.
> 
> Go to 
> www.scholar.google.com
> 
> type your search and down arrow to select the check box that says 
> legal
> research or something to that effect.
> 
> Enjoy...
> 
> Rod Alcidonis
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
> Philadelphia, PA
> Licensed in PA -- NJ pending 
> C. 718-704-4651
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles 
> Hamilton
> Houston 
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> for
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Nov 19 16:36:39 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:36:39 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Implement Disability Diversity at Work with 3 Easy
 Steps from the American Bar Association
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4ABA08@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>



________________________________
From: Commission on Mental and Physical Disability Law [mailto:cmpdl at abanet.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:35 AM
To: Nightingale, Noel
Subject: Implement Disability Diversity at Work with 3 Easy Steps from the American Bar Association

If you are having trouble viewing this e-mail, visit: http://www.abanet.org/disability/conferences/3easysteps.shtml<http://maestro.abanet.org/trk/click?ref=zpqri74vj_3-ba3cx3e513x1825&>

3 Easy Steps from the American Bar Association for Implementing Disability Diversity in Your Legal Workplace

Step 1: Make the pledge

Disability Diversity in the Legal Profession:
A Pledge for Change

The ABA Commission on Mental and Physical Disability Law is promoting "Disability Diversity in the Legal Profession: A Pledge for Change," a one-page pledge for legal employers to sign. The Pledge affirms the signatory's commitment to diversity, specifically, disability diversity, and recognizes that diversity is in the best interest of the profession, those the profession serves, as well as the organization making the commitment.

Please have your firm, company, agency, or organization sign the Pledge, and be recognized on the ABA Commission's "Diversity Honor Roll."

For details and instructions, visit:

http://www.abanet.org/disability/pledge<http://maestro.abanet.org/trk/click?ref=zpqri74vj_3-ba3cx3e514x1825&>

Step 2: Read the report
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 *   How to make the transition from law school to the workplace with a disability
 *   Personal stories from lawyers with disabilities, including the first blind U.S. Supreme Court clerk, an associate General Counsel, and a White House official
 *   How and why you should recruit, hire, retain, and promote lawyers with disabilities
 *   Practical tips on how to make your place of employment both welcoming and legally compliant for those with disabilities
 *   ABA and state and local bar association programs and policies for lawyers with disabilities-the definitive source of disability information in the legal profession
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov 19 17:38:49 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:38:49 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Implement Disability Diversity at Work with 3
	Easy Steps from the American Bar Association
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED4F7F4ABA08@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <149e01ca693f$27546960$6601a8c0@server>

Would this tepid approach be tolerated by women when it comes to promoting 
gender diversity in the workplace?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:36 AM
Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Implement Disability Diversity at Work with 3 Easy 
Steps from the American Bar Association


>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Commission on Mental and Physical Disability Law 
> [mailto:cmpdl at abanet.org]
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:35 AM
> To: Nightingale, Noel
> Subject: Implement Disability Diversity at Work with 3 Easy Steps from the 
> American Bar Association
>
> If you are having trouble viewing this e-mail, visit: 
> http://www.abanet.org/disability/conferences/3easysteps.shtml<http://maestro.abanet.org/trk/click?ref=zpqri74vj_3-ba3cx3e513x1825&>
>
> 3 Easy Steps from the American Bar Association for Implementing Disability 
> Diversity in Your Legal Workplace
>
> Step 1: Make the pledge
>
> Disability Diversity in the Legal Profession:
> A Pledge for Change
>
> The ABA Commission on Mental and Physical Disability Law is promoting 
> "Disability Diversity in the Legal Profession: A Pledge for Change," a 
> one-page pledge for legal employers to sign. The Pledge affirms the 
> signatory's commitment to diversity, specifically, disability diversity, 
> and recognizes that diversity is in the best interest of the profession, 
> those the profession serves, as well as the organization making the 
> commitment.
>
> Please have your firm, company, agency, or organization sign the Pledge, 
> and be recognized on the ABA Commission's "Diversity Honor Roll."
>
> For details and instructions, visit:
>
> http://www.abanet.org/disability/pledge<http://maestro.abanet.org/trk/click?ref=zpqri74vj_3-ba3cx3e514x1825&>
>
> Step 2: Read the report
> The Second National Conference on the Employment of Lawyers with 
> Disabilities: A Report from the American Bar Association to the Legal 
> Profession (Nov. 2009) - FREE!
> [http://www.abanet.org/disability/images/2009reportcover.jpg]<http://maestro.abanet.org/trk/click?ref=zpqri74vj_3-ba3cx3e515x1825&> 
> This groundbreaking report is intended for both legal employers and 
> lawyers/law students with disabilities. Topics include:
>
> *   The status of lawyers and law students with disabilities, including 
> statistics and surveys, and why we need lawyers with disabilities in the 
> profession
> *   How to make the transition from law school to the workplace with a 
> disability
> *   Personal stories from lawyers with disabilities, including the first 
> blind U.S. Supreme Court clerk, an associate General Counsel, and a White 
> House official
> *   How and why you should recruit, hire, retain, and promote lawyers with 
> disabilities
> *   Practical tips on how to make your place of employment both welcoming 
> and legally compliant for those with disabilities
> *   ABA and state and local bar association programs and policies for 
> lawyers with disabilities-the definitive source of disability information 
> in the legal profession
> *   And much more!
>
> Download your free copy of the 
> Report<http://maestro.abanet.org/trk/click?ref=zpqri74vj_3-ba3cx3e515x1825&>
>
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> CLE credit is available on audio 
> podcasts<http://maestro.abanet.org/trk/click?ref=zpqri74vj_3-ba3cx3e516x1825&>. 
> The conference presentations feature experts on employment and disability 
> law.
> Learn more by clicking 
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From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Fri Nov 20 08:51:41 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:51:41 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as blind
	attorney?
Message-ID: <094C6B3EB5E24A0794BF22112740E2CD@RodelynPC>

An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I have been thinking about. 

Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:

 where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order, which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or, the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day of the hearing and you are given a copy? 

Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date months down the line).

I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic devices?

I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant, but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the suggestions in advance.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending 
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston 

From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Fri Nov 20 08:54:47 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:54:47 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Immigration practice
Message-ID: <FA75C81B0C8E4D439AAB7D8B60EAE8BD@RodelynPC>

Another question:

For those of you who practice immigration law, which is driven by forms, and some of which aren't accessible, do you mind if I contact you to get some tips about developing a practice in that area as a blind attorney?

Thanks thanks.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending 
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston 

From lists at zufelt.ca  Fri Nov 20 09:52:52 2009
From: lists at zufelt.ca (E.J. Zufelt)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:52:52 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings and inaccessible
	documents
Message-ID: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>

Good morning,

I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations for best practices  
for blind parties to a legal proceeding who find it difficult to deal  
with filings and documents submitted by other parties that are not in  
an accessible format.  With, or without council, I believe that a  
blind party to a proceeding should have equitable access to filings.

I know that the procedure for this may differ from one jurisdiction to  
the next, but it would be nice to hear how this issue is handled in  
different jurisdictions.

Thanks,
Everett

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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 20 10:22:37 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:22:37 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings and
	inaccessible	documents
In-Reply-To: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
Message-ID: <022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>

Hi Everett.

Here in Houston, just about everything has gone the way of electronic
filing.  Those filings are in pdf format.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:53 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings and inaccessible
documents

Good morning,

I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations for best practices  
for blind parties to a legal proceeding who find it difficult to deal  
with filings and documents submitted by other parties that are not in  
an accessible format.  With, or without council, I believe that a  
blind party to a proceeding should have equitable access to filings.

I know that the procedure for this may differ from one jurisdiction to  
the next, but it would be nice to hear how this issue is handled in  
different jurisdictions.

Thanks,
Everett

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From AZNOR99 at aol.com  Fri Nov 20 12:32:44 2009
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:32:44 EST
Subject: [blindlaw] Immigration practice
Message-ID: <d4e.618bc54c.3837e66c@aol.com>

Rod,
 
I'm now on the DHS side, but I'm happy to share tips from when I had an  
immigration practice.  BTW, there is a brand new G-28 form that should be  
much more accessible, and there will also shortly be a fee waiver application 
as  well.
 
Feel free to give me a call or shoot me an email off-list.
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/20/2009 5:39:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
attorney at alcidonislaw.com writes:

Another  question:

For those of you who practice immigration law, which is  driven by forms, 
and some of which aren't accessible, do you mind if I contact  you to get 
some tips about developing a practice in that area as a blind  attorney?

Thanks thanks.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor  at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending 
C.  718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social  engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston  
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From rthomas at rjtlawfirm.com  Fri Nov 20 13:13:07 2009
From: rthomas at rjtlawfirm.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:13:07 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings
	andinaccessible	documents
In-Reply-To: <022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
	<022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
Message-ID: <66C9CBDC8A544B6BA6D30DF72F434211@russ>

It is more and more common for parties to stipulate to service via email.
The result is that you are immediately advised of any new filing by
opposing counsel and the pleading or document itself is attached to the
email.

email.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of WB
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:23 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings andinaccessible
documents

Hi Everett.

Here in Houston, just about everything has gone the way of electronic
filing.  Those filings are in pdf format.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:53 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings and inaccessible
documents

Good morning,

I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations for best practices  
for blind parties to a legal proceeding who find it difficult to deal  
with filings and documents submitted by other parties that are not in  
an accessible format.  With, or without council, I believe that a  
blind party to a proceeding should have equitable access to filings.

I know that the procedure for this may differ from one jurisdiction to  
the next, but it would be nice to hear how this issue is handled in  
different jurisdictions.

Thanks,
Everett

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From Cathryn.Bonnette at va.gov  Fri Nov 20 14:23:32 2009
From: Cathryn.Bonnette at va.gov (Bonnette, Cathryn (ORM))
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:23:32 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings
	andinaccessible	documents
In-Reply-To: <022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
	<022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
Message-ID: <ADF1A8970DE96E49BE5360B69BE1242D047D68B6@VANCRMSGA4.vha.med.va.gov>

I would value these messages at my home e-mail
address-cathrynisfinally at verizon.net  - not at work as it is now.
Help- thanks


Cathryn Bonnette
ADR Program Specialist
U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (08)
Office of Resolution Management (ORM)
1575 I Street, NW-10th Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Office 202-461-0513
Fax 202-501-2885
 
http://www.va.gov/orm/
http://www.va.gov/orm/ADR.asp
cathryn.bonnette at va.gov
 
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If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, ou are hereby
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received this e-mail in error, please notify me by return e-mail and via
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of WB
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:23 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings
andinaccessible documents

Hi Everett.

Here in Houston, just about everything has gone the way of electronic
filing.  Those filings are in pdf format.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On
Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:53 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings and inaccessible
documents

Good morning,

I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations for best practices  
for blind parties to a legal proceeding who find it difficult to deal  
with filings and documents submitted by other parties that are not in  
an accessible format.  With, or without council, I believe that a  
blind party to a proceeding should have equitable access to filings.

I know that the procedure for this may differ from one jurisdiction to  
the next, but it would be nice to hear how this issue is handled in  
different jurisdictions.

Thanks,
Everett

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From timandvickie at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 20 14:50:51 2009
From: timandvickie at hotmail.com (Tim Shaw)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:50:51 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] hey
In-Reply-To: <022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>,
	<022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W3306E7817DE224082605ECFA10@phx.gbl>


hey, so how have things shaped up for your wine and cheese thing tomorrow? I wanna show, but I am not sure if I will have a ride at the moment.

 

Tim
 		 	   		  
_________________________________________________________________
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 20 16:47:56 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:47:56 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] hey
In-Reply-To: <BAY139-W3306E7817DE224082605ECFA10@phx.gbl>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>,
	<022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
	<BAY139-W3306E7817DE224082605ECFA10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <034e01ca6a01$37ea1640$a7be42c0$@com>

Hey Tim!

Things are pretty good.  I heard your voice when I was up there interviewing
the other day.  You were gone by the time I came out.

The Wine & Cheese is shaping up well.

What's been going on with you?

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Tim Shaw
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:51 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] hey


hey, so how have things shaped up for your wine and cheese thing tomorrow? I
wanna show, but I am not sure if I will have a ride at the moment.

 

Tim
 		 	   		  
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From b75205 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 20 16:58:45 2009
From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:58:45 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind parties to legal proceedings and inaccessible
	documents
In-Reply-To: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
Message-ID: <fe5b78280911200858x7fd86223o21bdeb2616afeec5@mail.gmail.com>

If a government form is not accessible to the blind, can it be challenged in
court?  I was just thinking that this might be a means of forcing
accessibility onto government agencies that are not doing the accessibility
work that they are supposed to do.  That by challenging the most basic
documents used by people would force them to act in making documents and
forms accessible.

Also, it is actually common practice to make content that is different for
the blind than what you would see on the page.  Thsi is to give instructions
to those using a screen reader.  But it is also possible that the meaning of
the conent can change, either deliberately or not and it would only be
noticed by people using a screen reader.

James Pepper

From mhartle at nfb.org  Sun Nov 22 00:53:17 2009
From: mhartle at nfb.org (Hartle,
	Mary Jo)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:53:17 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] 2010 NFB Leadership and Advocacy in Washington Program
 for Students
Message-ID: <auto-000128518755@mailfront2.g2host.com>


The National Federation of the Blind Announces
The 2010 NFB Leadership and Advocacy in Washington, D.C., (LAW) Program
Engaging the Voice of America's Blind Youth

For Youth Grades 6-9 or Ages 12-16
April 16-20, 2010
Washington, D.C., and Baltimore, MD

This four-day experience will provide blind and low vision students 
with a unique opportunity to explore the inner workings of our 
country's government, its history, and its culture while staying at 
the national headquarters for the National Federation of the Blind in 
Baltimore, MD. In addition to learning about grassroots legislation 
efforts, how resolutions are passed, and how various blindness 
legislation is brought about, participants will learn more about 
advocacy work for blind individuals and available resources for blind 
students and adults.

Highlights of the Program include:

* Visits to historical sites in Washington, D.C.
* Meetings with, and presentations from, influential government leaders
* Presentations by influential leaders from the largest blindness 
advocacy group in the country
* Tours of the National Federation of the Blind national headquarters
* A visit to the International Braille and Technology Center, the 
largest lab of accessible technology for the blind

Program Details:
* Cost: There will be a $250 fee for accepted students.  All other 
expenses including transportation, room, and board will be provided
* All accepted students must be accompanied by a parent/guardian, 
teacher, or blind/low vision mentor from their home state
* No more than twenty-five participants from across the country will 
be accepted
* Applications are due by February 1, 2010, to be considered

To learn more about this exciting new program, or to apply online, 
please visit <http://www.nfb.org/LAWProgram>www.nfb.org/LAWProgram or 
contact Mary Jo T. Hartle, director of education at (410) 659-9314, 
ext. 2407,  or by e-mail at <mailto:mhartle at nfb.org>mhartle at nfb.org.

<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Mary Jo T. Hartle



Mary Jo Thorpe-Hartle, MEd, NOMC

Director of Education
Jernigan Institute
NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
200 East Wells Street
Baltimore, MD 21230
Phone: (410)659-9314 ext. 2407
Email: <mailto:mhartle at nfb.org>mhartle at nfb.org
Fax: (410) 659-5129
Visit <http://www.nfb.org/>www.nfb.org


From dandrews at visi.com  Sun Nov 22 03:15:39 2009
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:15:39 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] hey
In-Reply-To: <034e01ca6a01$37ea1640$a7be42c0$@com>
References: <4FF05385-26A2-4600-87DC-9F78C050134B@zufelt.ca>
	<022701ca69cb$62a29460$27e7bd20$@com>
	<BAY139-W3306E7817DE224082605ECFA10@phx.gbl>
	<034e01ca6a01$37ea1640$a7be42c0$@com>
Message-ID: <auto-000127823160@mailfront1.g2host.com>

Please don't use the list for private conversations -- hundreds of 
others have to read it.

David Andrews List Owner

At 10:47 AM 11/20/2009, you wrote:
>Hey Tim!
>
>Things are pretty good.  I heard your voice when I was up there interviewing
>the other day.  You were gone by the time I came out.
>
>The Wine & Cheese is shaping up well.
>
>What's been going on with you?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Tim Shaw
>Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:51 AM
>To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>Subject: [blindlaw] hey
>
>
>hey, so how have things shaped up for your wine and cheese thing tomorrow? I
>wanna show, but I am not sure if I will have a ride at the moment.
>
>
>
>Tim
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star.
>http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID247
>27::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009
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From rfarber at jw.com  Sun Nov 22 04:46:23 2009
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:46:23 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Doctor/Medical Student List
Message-ID: <8EA167BDF4483449B67BBE3BFCB648F10E9AC2C7@pdc-mail01.jwllp.com>

Does anyone know of a list for doctors or medical students?  My daughter
is interested in becoming a doctor and would like to discuss the
advantages and disadvantages of various specialties.
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From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 23 10:32:58 2009
From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:32:58 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
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	<BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>

Has any one used this in their practice?
If so, do you find it useful?



From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Mon Nov 23 15:32:55 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:32:55 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT><BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>
	<00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>
Message-ID: <FD5EFEBC99C34838B5270B0A74222474@RodelynPC>

Craig:

I  have one and it is great.


Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Craig Spencer" <craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:32 AM
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device

> Has any one used this in their practice?
> If so, do you find it useful?
>
>
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From Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov  Mon Nov 23 16:00:35 2009
From: Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov (Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS))
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:00:35 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
	blindattorney?
In-Reply-To: <094C6B3EB5E24A0794BF22112740E2CD@RodelynPC>
References: <094C6B3EB5E24A0794BF22112740E2CD@RodelynPC>
Message-ID: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E469@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>

If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I
suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those
very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less,
and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years
old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a
power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
It is great for the situations you describe.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
blindattorney?

An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am
interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I
have been thinking about. 

Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make
arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would
be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings
without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to
court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those
of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:

 where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the
hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that
day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order,
which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or,
the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day
of the hearing and you are given a copy? 

Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or
what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of
time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date
months down the line).

I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have
you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb
drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic
devices?

I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant,
but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the
suggestions in advance.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
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From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Mon Nov 23 20:28:19 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:28:19 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone
	asblindattorney?
In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E469@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
References: <094C6B3EB5E24A0794BF22112740E2CD@RodelynPC>
	<839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E469@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov>
Message-ID: <166C75ECFDD24697A6A1C1C8029ACE9A@RodelynPC>

Thanks, Ford. I will look into getting one.



Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:00 AM
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone 
asblindattorney?

> If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I
> suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those
> very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less,
> and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years
> old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a
> power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
> It is great for the situations you describe.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
> blindattorney?
>
> An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am
> interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I
> have been thinking about.
>
> Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make
> arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would
> be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings
> without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to
> court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those
> of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:
>
> where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the
> hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that
> day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order,
> which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or,
> the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day
> of the hearing and you are given a copy?
>
> Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or
> what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of
> time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date
> months down the line).
>
> I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have
> you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb
> drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic
> devices?
>
> I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant,
> but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the
> suggestions in advance.
>
> Rod Alcidonis
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
> Philadelphia, PA
> Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
> C. 718-704-4651
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Mon Nov 23 22:08:46 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT><BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>
	<00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>
Message-ID: <005001ca6c89$86e870e0$6601a8c0@server>

Hi Craig,
What is the device you mentioned?
Thanks,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Spencer" <craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device


> Has any one used this in their practice?
> If so, do you find it useful?
>
>
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From timandvickie at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 23 23:12:18 2009
From: timandvickie at hotmail.com (Tim Shaw)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:12:18 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <005001ca6c89$86e870e0$6601a8c0@server>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT><BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>,
	<00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>,
	<005001ca6c89$86e870e0$6601a8c0@server>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W1694CA3623BA15B0B64364CF9E0@phx.gbl>


it is essentially a bar code reading system in which you have a pen that is able to scan and read labels that you put on stuff
 
> From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> Hi Craig,
> What is the device you mentioned?
> Thanks,
> Dennis
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Craig Spencer" <craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> 
> > Has any one used this in their practice?
> > If so, do you find it useful?
> >
> >
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From pattichang at att.net  Mon Nov 23 23:22:18 2009
From: pattichang at att.net (Patti chang )
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:22:18 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone
 as	blindattorney?
Message-ID: <zLYpKmNrJLJ5.pxj0FqKL@smtp.att.yahoo.com>

I use a K-NFBI Reader.

Patti Gregory-Chang
President, NFBI
Sent from my KNFB mobile. 

-original message-
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as blindattorney?
From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
Date: 11/23/2009 11:24 AM

If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I
suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those
very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less,
and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years
old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a
power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
It is great for the situations you describe.


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
blindattorney?

An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am
interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I
have been thinking about. 

Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make
arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would
be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings
without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to
court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those
of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:

 where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the
hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that
day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order,
which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or,
the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day
of the hearing and you are given a copy? 

Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or
what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of
time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date
months down the line).

I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have
you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb
drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic
devices?

I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant,
but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the
suggestions in advance.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Mon Nov 23 23:47:28 2009
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:47:28 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone
	as	blindattorney?
In-Reply-To: <zLYpKmNrJLJ5.pxj0FqKL@smtp.att.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED50439704CB@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>

This month's Straight Talk About vision Loss episode, episode 28, is about the Intel Reader, which sounds like technology that would be useful in the courtroom situation you described.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Patti chang 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:22 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as blindattorney?

I use a K-NFBI Reader.

Patti Gregory-Chang
President, NFBI
Sent from my KNFB mobile. 

-original message-
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as blindattorney?
From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
Date: 11/23/2009 11:24 AM

If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less, and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
It is great for the situations you describe.


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as blindattorney?

An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I have been thinking about. 

Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:

 where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order, which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or, the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day of the hearing and you are given a copy? 

Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date months down the line).

I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic devices?

I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant, but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the suggestions in advance.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
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From rumpole at roadrunner.com  Tue Nov 24 00:06:36 2009
From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:06:36 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone
	as	blindattorney?
References: <zLYpKmNrJLJ5.pxj0FqKL@smtp.att.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <54BE6ABA0FF849D99FB972CEE3274661@none8a46117901>

I have learned a great deal about technology in regard to this particular 
inquiry on this list.
However, I am perhaps older than many of you and felt that maybe some of my 
old-fashioned tactics might be of some small value or use to those on this 
list. Of course, others like Scott or Noel are true pillars of wisdom, and 
I'm sure they have their own ways of doing things in a court room setting 
that are just as, or more effective than nmine.
When I am in a court room, I bring a particularly trained pair of eyes with 
me when I go to hearings. Truth be told, only courtroom hearings. Not the 
many administrative tribunal hearings I attend these days. I am so 
accustomed to those particular  settings that I do not need or want any 
"eyes" with me. But court roomm hearings, be they in State or Federal court, 
are very different.
 The reasons are, as you may expect, visual in nature. I want to know the 
reactions and cues that can come only from a visual awareness of my 
surroundings.
The reader is trained by me to use unobtrusive signals for me so that I know 
what is going on around me. She will cough, tap a pencil or touch my foot 
with hers for the specifics that I have trained her to be aware of. I want 
her to note such things as surprise, scowling, distaste, or if I am being 
ignored or not. I want to know what is going on at the other counsel table 
and what the reactions are to my evidence.
When evidence comes my way, I want either the short hand version of it, or, 
if it is a totaly unexpected piece of evidence, what it is by heading or by 
chapter - and that is one of my methods for training "eyes" for a court room 
hearing -  'outline unexpected evidence for me so that I can focus in on 
what I really want to know.
However, I mention this only because I am lucky enough to have a pair of 
eyes that are trained to my preferences. IE: they do things my way. I insist 
on that. That is my client up there, and things will be done my way. Of 
course, that also means that I exclusively own any malpractice that may come 
down on me as well.
Thus far, it has served me pretty well in court rooms in the two states 
where I am admitted to practice.
  However, I began my practice before much of the technology currently in 
use became reliable, or as small as it is now.
I end by stating without doubt that, my way of doing things is most 
certainly not for everyone. Each attorney must be at ease with his or her 
personal way of dooing things or you will not be effective in a court room.
Beyond that it is as we all know, 90% preparation and 10% inspiration.
This is how wwe each earn our own professional reputation, gray hair  and 
stomach trouble.
(I didn't know they made scanners that darn small)

 Hope this helps out some.

Ross






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patti chang " <pattichang at att.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
blindattorney?


>I use a K-NFBI Reader.
>
> Patti Gregory-Chang
> President, NFBI
> Sent from my KNFB mobile.
>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
> blindattorney?
> From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
> Date: 11/23/2009 11:24 AM
>
> If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I
> suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those
> very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less,
> and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years
> old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a
> power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
> It is great for the situations you describe.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
> blindattorney?
>
> An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am
> interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I
> have been thinking about.
>
> Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make
> arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would
> be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings
> without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to
> court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those
> of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:
>
> where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the
> hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that
> day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order,
> which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or,
> the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day
> of the hearing and you are given a copy?
>
> Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or
> what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of
> time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date
> months down the line).
>
> I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have
> you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb
> drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic
> devices?
>
> I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant,
> but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the
> suggestions in advance.
>
> Rod Alcidonis
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
> Philadelphia, PA
> Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
> C. 718-704-4651
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 24 00:09:57 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:09:57 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT><BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>,
	<00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>,
	<005001ca6c89$86e870e0$6601a8c0@server>
	<BAY139-W1694CA3623BA15B0B64364CF9E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <006801ca6c9a$751b3080$6601a8c0@server>

Hi Tim,
I appreciate the response.  Do you know where this can be purchased?
Thanks,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Shaw" <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device


>
> it is essentially a bar code reading system in which you have a pen that 
> is able to scan and read labels that you put on stuff
>
>> From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>
>> Hi Craig,
>> What is the device you mentioned?
>> Thanks,
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Craig Spencer" <craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>
>>
>> > Has any one used this in their practice?
>> > If so, do you find it useful?
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
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From timandvickie at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 24 02:20:49 2009
From: timandvickie at hotmail.com (Tim Shaw)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:20:49 +0000
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <006801ca6c9a$751b3080$6601a8c0@server>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT><BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>,
	, <00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>, ,
	<005001ca6c89$86e870e0$6601a8c0@server>,
	<BAY139-W1694CA3623BA15B0B64364CF9E0@phx.gbl>,
	<006801ca6c9a$751b3080$6601a8c0@server>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W1E600BD6F9BC87BEBBC4ECF9D0@phx.gbl>


Independent living has it at the address below, but you can find it on other sites as well.


 http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=756610

 
> From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:09:57 -0800
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> Hi Tim,
> I appreciate the response. Do you know where this can be purchased?
> Thanks,
> Dennis
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tim Shaw" <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> 
> 
> >
> > it is essentially a bar code reading system in which you have a pen that 
> > is able to scan and read labels that you put on stuff
> >
> >> From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
> >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> >> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
> >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> >>
> >> Hi Craig,
> >> What is the device you mentioned?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Dennis
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Craig Spencer" <craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
> >>
> >>
> >> > Has any one used this in their practice?
> >> > If so, do you find it useful?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > blindlaw mailing list
> >> > blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
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> >>
> >>
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> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1
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From dandrews at visi.com  Tue Nov 24 03:07:15 2009
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:07:15 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <006801ca6c9a$751b3080$6601a8c0@server>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT>
	<BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl>
	<00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62>
	<005001ca6c89$86e870e0$6601a8c0@server>
	<BAY139-W1694CA3623BA15B0B64364CF9E0@phx.gbl>
	<006801ca6c9a$751b3080$6601a8c0@server>
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Independent Living Aids  www.independentliving.com

Dave

At 06:09 PM 11/23/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Tim,
>I appreciate the response.  Do you know where this can be purchased?
>Thanks,
>Dennis
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Shaw" <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
>To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:12 PM
>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>
>
>>
>>it is essentially a bar code reading system in which you have a pen 
>>that is able to scan and read labels that you put on stuff
>>
>>>From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
>>>To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>>
>>>Hi Craig,
>>>What is the device you mentioned?
>>>Thanks,
>>>Dennis
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" 
>>><craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>>
>>>
>>> > Has any one used this in their practice?
>>> > If so, do you find it useful?
>>> >



From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Tue Nov 24 03:29:05 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:29:05 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings
	aloneas	blindattorney?
In-Reply-To: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED50439704CB@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
References: <E771EAA0575B844C98712011AE73D7ED50439704CB@EDUPTCEXMB03.ed.gov>
Message-ID: <6DDB2171091D48A9A6D3608BBC26465C@RodelynPC>

Thanks for the comments from everybody.

I agree with Ross that for a trial, a pair of eyes is the best; however, for 
preliminary hearings, bail reduction types of appearances, I am searching 
for an alternative to a good pair of eyes. I am definitely going to look 
into the small scanners.


Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Nightingale, Noel" <Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 6:47 PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings aloneasblindattorney?> This month's Straight Talk About vision Loss episode, episode 28, is about 
the Intel Reader, which sounds like technology that would be useful in the 
courtroom situation you described.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Patti chang
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:22 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
> blindattorney?
>
> I use a K-NFBI Reader.
>
> Patti Gregory-Chang
> President, NFBI
> Sent from my KNFB mobile.
>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
> blindattorney?
> From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
> Date: 11/23/2009 11:24 AM
>
> If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I suggest 
> you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those very 
> little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less, and 
> they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years old, 
> works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a power 
> plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
> It is great for the situations you describe.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
> blindattorney?
>
> An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am 
> interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I have 
> been thinking about.
>
> Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make 
> arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would be 
> any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings 
> without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to 
> court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those 
> of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:
>
> where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the 
> hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that 
> day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order, which 
> you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or, the 
> opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day of the 
> hearing and you are given a copy?
>
> Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or what 
> would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of time? 
> Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date months down 
> the line).
>
> I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have 
> you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb 
> drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic 
> devices?
>
> I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant, but 
> this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the suggestions in 
> advance.
>
> Rod Alcidonis
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
> Philadelphia, PA
> Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
> C. 718-704-4651
> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
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From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 24 03:37:53 2009
From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:37:53 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings
	aloneas	blindattorney?
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References: <zLYpKmNrJLJ5.pxj0FqKL@smtp.att.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <8E5734C175AD4E3BB2315D405E7DA52F@spike>

This is very valid. When I worked as a vocational expert for the Social 
Security Administration in the early 80's in Detroit, (one of the ways I 
paid for graduate school) I hired a per diem assistant that would be 
available to review the case files that I would be evaluating for a 
particular day. She also attended the hearings and provided much of the same 
information e.g. how the claimant appeared, noticeable affects of a 
disabling condition, appearance of pain etc. I recall one emergency 
situation where my assistant was not available and some information needed 
to be reviewed and the ALJ provided clerical support on an emergency basis.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings aloneas 
blindattorney?


>I have learned a great deal about technology in regard to this particular 
>inquiry on this list.
> However, I am perhaps older than many of you and felt that maybe some of 
> my old-fashioned tactics might be of some small value or use to those on 
> this list. Of course, others like Scott or Noel are true pillars of 
> wisdom, and I'm sure they have their own ways of doing things in a court 
> room setting that are just as, or more effective than nmine.
> When I am in a court room, I bring a particularly trained pair of eyes 
> with me when I go to hearings. Truth be told, only courtroom hearings. Not 
> the many administrative tribunal hearings I attend these days. I am so 
> accustomed to those particular  settings that I do not need or want any 
> "eyes" with me. But court roomm hearings, be they in State or Federal 
> court, are very different.
> The reasons are, as you may expect, visual in nature. I want to know the 
> reactions and cues that can come only from a visual awareness of my 
> surroundings.
> The reader is trained by me to use unobtrusive signals for me so that I 
> know what is going on around me. She will cough, tap a pencil or touch my 
> foot with hers for the specifics that I have trained her to be aware of. I 
> want her to note such things as surprise, scowling, distaste, or if I am 
> being ignored or not. I want to know what is going on at the other counsel 
> table and what the reactions are to my evidence.
> When evidence comes my way, I want either the short hand version of it, 
> or, if it is a totaly unexpected piece of evidence, what it is by heading 
> or by chapter - and that is one of my methods for training "eyes" for a 
> court room hearing -  'outline unexpected evidence for me so that I can 
> focus in on what I really want to know.
> However, I mention this only because I am lucky enough to have a pair of 
> eyes that are trained to my preferences. IE: they do things my way. I 
> insist on that. That is my client up there, and things will be done my 
> way. Of course, that also means that I exclusively own any malpractice 
> that may come down on me as well.
> Thus far, it has served me pretty well in court rooms in the two states 
> where I am admitted to practice.
>  However, I began my practice before much of the technology currently in 
> use became reliable, or as small as it is now.
> I end by stating without doubt that, my way of doing things is most 
> certainly not for everyone. Each attorney must be at ease with his or her 
> personal way of dooing things or you will not be effective in a court 
> room.
> Beyond that it is as we all know, 90% preparation and 10% inspiration.
> This is how wwe each earn our own professional reputation, gray hair  and 
> stomach trouble.
> (I didn't know they made scanners that darn small)
>
> Hope this helps out some.
>
> Ross
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patti chang " <pattichang at att.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
> blindattorney?
>
>
>>I use a K-NFBI Reader.
>>
>> Patti Gregory-Chang
>> President, NFBI
>> Sent from my KNFB mobile.
>>
>> -original message-
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
>> blindattorney?
>> From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
>> Date: 11/23/2009 11:24 AM
>>
>> If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I
>> suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those
>> very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less,
>> and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years
>> old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a
>> power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
>> It is great for the situations you describe.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
>> blindattorney?
>>
>> An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am
>> interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I
>> have been thinking about.
>>
>> Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make
>> arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would
>> be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings
>> without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to
>> court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those
>> of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:
>>
>> where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the
>> hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that
>> day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order,
>> which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or,
>> the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day
>> of the hearing and you are given a copy?
>>
>> Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or
>> what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of
>> time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date
>> months down the line).
>>
>> I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have
>> you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb
>> drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic
>> devices?
>>
>> I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant,
>> but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the
>> suggestions in advance.
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis
>> Attorney and Counselor at Law
>> Philadelphia, PA
>> Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
>> C. 718-704-4651
>> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
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From angie.matney at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 05:04:48 2009
From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:04:48 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
In-Reply-To: <auto-000128110096@mailfront1.g2host.com>
References: <mailman.27.1254848403.25935.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><A1566C8592CA41518D98AEDA800BA988@PUTTPUTT><BAY139-W11EF6D7FEBE085D4275C3BCFC90@phx.gbl><00a601ca6c28$540955b0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62><005001ca6c89$86e870e0$6601a8c0@server><BAY139-W1694CA3623BA15B0B64364CF9E0@phx.gbl><006801ca6c9a$751b3080$6601a8c0@server>
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To clarify, I don't think it reads actual bar codes. You have to use the 
labels that come with the machine. They are small and round. The person 
demonstrating it told me they did not have visible bar codes on them.

One person who was looking at it at the same time I was had decreased 
sensitivity in her fingers. She could not feel the label to find it. You do 
have to touch the pen to the label to get a reading. It was suggested that 
she put the label on a card and attach the card with a rubber band to the 
item she wanted to label.

The machine also does not have a headphone jack for private listening.

Having said all that, I can see how it could be useful in an office.

Angie

----- Original Message ----- 


From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device


> Independent Living Aids  www.independentliving.com
>
> Dave
>
> At 06:09 PM 11/23/2009, you wrote:
>>Hi Tim,
>>I appreciate the response.  Do you know where this can be purchased?
>>Thanks,
>>Dennis
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Shaw" <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
>>To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:12 PM
>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>
>>
>>>
>>>it is essentially a bar code reading system in which you have a pen that 
>>>is able to scan and read labels that you put on stuff
>>>
>>>>From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
>>>>To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
>>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>>>
>>>>Hi Craig,
>>>>What is the device you mentioned?
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Dennis
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" 
>>>><craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Has any one used this in their practice?
>>>> > If so, do you find it useful?
>>>> >
>
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From dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 24 13:18:22 2009
From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Clark)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:18:22 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
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Hi Dave and Tim,
Thanks for the link to the device.  It looks very useful.
Best,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device


> Independent Living Aids  www.independentliving.com
>
> Dave
>
> At 06:09 PM 11/23/2009, you wrote:
>>Hi Tim,
>>I appreciate the response.  Do you know where this can be purchased?
>>Thanks,
>>Dennis
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Shaw" <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
>>To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:12 PM
>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>
>>
>>>
>>>it is essentially a bar code reading system in which you have a pen that 
>>>is able to scan and read labels that you put on stuff
>>>
>>>>From: dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
>>>>To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:08:46 -0800
>>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>>>
>>>>Hi Craig,
>>>>What is the device you mentioned?
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Dennis
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Spencer" 
>>>><craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com>
>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:32 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Has any one used this in their practice?
>>>> > If so, do you find it useful?
>>>> >
>
>
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From khagen12 at q.com  Tue Nov 24 18:06:00 2009
From: khagen12 at q.com (kathleen hagen)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:06:00 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings
	aloneas	blindattorney?
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I am older also and when I have to go to court, state or federal, I take an 
assistant with me for similar reasons.  Many of our administrative hearings 
are telephone conferences now and I can do those alone.  I can do other 
administrative hearings alone as well but, depending on the complexity of 
the issue, I might take someone with me.  If it's in what we call "greater 
MInnesota" (out of the twin cities) I have to have a driver in any event.
Kathleen Hagen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ross Doerr" <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings aloneas 
blindattorney?


>I have learned a great deal about technology in regard to this particular 
>inquiry on this list.
> However, I am perhaps older than many of you and felt that maybe some of 
> my old-fashioned tactics might be of some small value or use to those on 
> this list. Of course, others like Scott or Noel are true pillars of 
> wisdom, and I'm sure they have their own ways of doing things in a court 
> room setting that are just as, or more effective than nmine.
> When I am in a court room, I bring a particularly trained pair of eyes 
> with me when I go to hearings. Truth be told, only courtroom hearings. Not 
> the many administrative tribunal hearings I attend these days. I am so 
> accustomed to those particular  settings that I do not need or want any 
> "eyes" with me. But court roomm hearings, be they in State or Federal 
> court, are very different.
> The reasons are, as you may expect, visual in nature. I want to know the 
> reactions and cues that can come only from a visual awareness of my 
> surroundings.
> The reader is trained by me to use unobtrusive signals for me so that I 
> know what is going on around me. She will cough, tap a pencil or touch my 
> foot with hers for the specifics that I have trained her to be aware of. I 
> want her to note such things as surprise, scowling, distaste, or if I am 
> being ignored or not. I want to know what is going on at the other counsel 
> table and what the reactions are to my evidence.
> When evidence comes my way, I want either the short hand version of it, 
> or, if it is a totaly unexpected piece of evidence, what it is by heading 
> or by chapter - and that is one of my methods for training "eyes" for a 
> court room hearing -  'outline unexpected evidence for me so that I can 
> focus in on what I really want to know.
> However, I mention this only because I am lucky enough to have a pair of 
> eyes that are trained to my preferences. IE: they do things my way. I 
> insist on that. That is my client up there, and things will be done my 
> way. Of course, that also means that I exclusively own any malpractice 
> that may come down on me as well.
> Thus far, it has served me pretty well in court rooms in the two states 
> where I am admitted to practice.
>  However, I began my practice before much of the technology currently in 
> use became reliable, or as small as it is now.
> I end by stating without doubt that, my way of doing things is most 
> certainly not for everyone. Each attorney must be at ease with his or her 
> personal way of dooing things or you will not be effective in a court 
> room.
> Beyond that it is as we all know, 90% preparation and 10% inspiration.
> This is how wwe each earn our own professional reputation, gray hair  and 
> stomach trouble.
> (I didn't know they made scanners that darn small)
>
> Hope this helps out some.
>
> Ross
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patti chang " <pattichang at att.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
> blindattorney?
>
>
>>I use a K-NFBI Reader.
>>
>> Patti Gregory-Chang
>> President, NFBI
>> Sent from my KNFB mobile.
>>
>> -original message-
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as 
>> blindattorney?
>> From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" <Tim.Ford at cdph.ca.gov>
>> Date: 11/23/2009 11:24 AM
>>
>> If you will be going to court hearings by yourself, at a minimum I
>> suggest you have a laptop with scanning software, and take one of those
>> very little flatbed scanners.  I think they are only about $60 or less,
>> and they work fine.  The one I have, which is actually several years
>> old, works strictly off of the USB cord, so you do not need to find a
>> power plug.  The unit is only an inch think, and weighs a pound or less.
>> It is great for the situations you describe.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:52 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Issues in attending court proceedings alone as
>> blindattorney?
>>
>> An angle of this question has once been discussed here; however, I am
>> interested in some more precise issues or possible situations that I
>> have been thinking about.
>>
>> Assuming going to court was only to deal with one's case file and make
>> arguments, sign a few papers here and there, I do not think there would
>> be any problems for a blind attorney to participate in court proceedings
>> without a sighted assistant. I know of several blind attorneys who go to
>> court with an assistant, and some on here I think, who do not. For those
>> of you who do not, how do you guys go about handling such situations:
>>
>> where an opposing counsel brings you documents in the morning of the
>> hearing at the court house which you have to review for a hearing that
>> day, that afternoon, or an hour later? Or, the judge makes an order,
>> which you have to review at the courthouse for an afternoon hearing? Or,
>> the opposing party, not counsel, brings a document to court on the day
>> of the hearing and you are given a copy?
>>
>> Assuming one does not have an NFB Reader, what have you guys done or
>> what would you do in such situations? Would you ask for an extension of
>> time? Reschedule the hearing (some courts would push your next date
>> months down the line).
>>
>> I know the ADA covers courthouses, but what types of accommodations have
>> you guys been able to receive? Getting the clerk to save orders on thumb
>> drives? Getting clerks to e-mail stuff, or save them on electronic
>> devices?
>>
>> I know this is a lot and the best answer would be to get an assistant,
>> but this is not an option at the moment. Thanks for all of the
>> suggestions in advance.
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis
>> Attorney and Counselor at Law
>> Philadelphia, PA
>> Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
>> C. 718-704-4651
>> Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
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From mruniverse08 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 01:23:44 2009
From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:23:44 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Off-Topic:  Happy Thanksgiving
Message-ID: <02ea01ca6e37$1933eb10$4b9bc130$@com>

I know this is off topic for the list but I just wanted to wish everyone a
Happy Thanksgiving.


From dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov 26 01:40:16 2009
From: dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net (dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:40:16 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Off-Topic:  Happy Thanksgiving
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Dear WB:

Thank you.  Seems right on topic to me.  I, also, hope all you ladies and 
gents out there have a safe and blessed Thanksgiving weekend.

Dan McBride
Fort Worth, Texas
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To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:23 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Off-Topic: Happy Thanksgiving


>I know this is off topic for the list but I just wanted to wish everyone a
> Happy Thanksgiving.
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From editor.nftb at gmail.com  Sat Nov 28 12:59:47 2009
From: editor.nftb at gmail.com (Will May)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:59:47 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] www.NewspapersForTheBlind.ORG lawsuit/NYTimes Company
Message-ID: <bd5993380911280459l593a8242i5c9c848688266868@mail.gmail.com>

28th November, 2009
Maryland

Hello all;

I am the editor of www.NewspapersForTheBlind.ORG which is a vocal
newspaper reading service for the hearing-impaired blind. We
human-read the newspaper articles, as opposed to synthetic speech, to
also reach the many hearing-impaired blind; particularly the aged.

We instituted this service in reaction to curtailed radio newspaper
reading by carrier-wave by NPR stations due to budget cuts.

The NYTimes outsources its copyright licensing.  We contacted the
outsource asking prior permission to read the text content to audio
for the blind; never receiving a response. We wrote to the NYTimes
asking permission, ending each communication with, effectively, "We'll
assume no 'No' is a yes," all to no response. All of the newspapers we
were able to dialogue with had granted us permission; naturally, the
hearing-impaired blind are not skipping a subscription to the
paper-and-ink newspaper for our service.

We have asked for the NYTimes Company's newspapers on the same terms
and delivery methods as the National Federation for the Blind enjoys
to machine-read for the only-blind at Newsline.

Is there any theory that the NYTimes must allow us content for the
hearing-impaired blind on similar terms?

Is there any theory that the NYTimes must provide an edition for the
hearing-impaired blind under the ADA?

Any helpful thoughts would be appreciated,

Kind regards,

Will May
Editor at NewspapersForTheBlind.ORG


From bspiry at comcast.net  Sun Nov 29 16:36:34 2009
From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:36:34 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea
In-Reply-To: <4aff0a77.9453f10a.4502.ffffb04e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.23.1771245436.733174.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

Helpful. Thanks. 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Robert Munro
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:52 AM
To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea

I had trouble with roman numerals too during my 1L year, both in the
outlines I prepared and in textbooks.  Here's how I dealt with the issue.

To have JAWS distinguish between Arabic and roman numerals, Open your JAWS
default dictionary and create definitions for the roman numerals.  Here are
some things to keep in mind when you do this.

1.  Have JAWS say "roman two," or something similar, for roman numeral two,
"roman three" for roman numeral three, ETC.

2.  Make sure your definitions are not case sensitive; that way, JAWS will
catch both big and little roman numerals.  Of course, you could create two
sets of definitions, one for big roman numerals and another for little ones,
with JAWS saying "big roman two" and "little roman two" respectively.  I
chose not to do this.

3.  Skip roman numerals that consist of only one letter: I, V, L, X, C, D,
and M.  These pop up too often in normal text.  It will only confuse things
if JAWS is treating them as roman numerals instead of letters.

Good luck prepping for exams.  I hope my comments have been helpful.

Onward!

Rob Munro

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Johnston
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:44 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea

Hi folks,

Thanks to everyone who sent me ideas for outlining.  Bruce, your ideas about
K1000 were especially generative.  I realized that it would be easiest (for
me) to comprehend an outline if it were in the tree format that is used to
expand/collapse folders and subfolders in Kurzweil's Save As window.  Each
level would represent a certain heading level, and opening a branch would
display its subheadings.  It would allow tracing of paths like a flow chart.
Has anyone else thought of or tried using something like this?  Is this
something that could be done in Excel?  I'm not super proficient at the
program, but would have no clue how to construct a database (perhaps the
alternative).

Using the search feature in Word to jump from a specified heading to the
same specified heading is fine, except that it is a one-trick pony unless
altering the search.  Using the move by paragraph operation is good for
moving step by step, but it doesn't allow easy comprehension of the big
picture; JAWS doesn't even do a great job distinguishing between Roman and
Arabic numerals.  Kurzweil might be a better option for creating a standard
outline, but it will take some getting used to losing the 10 digit keypad
for navigation.  So far, I've only used the program for OCR, and save the
files to Word for reading.

Thanks again!

Jay
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From bspiry at comcast.net  Sun Nov 29 17:09:53 2009
From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:09:53 -0800
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool
In-Reply-To: <C366B29BFDCA423A9592838FCA9EE2F3@RodelynPC>
Message-ID: <mailman.24.1771245436.733174.blindlaw_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

I've found it a great way to get the cases quickly, searches pull up most of
the same hits as westlaw and Lex, no headnotes though and the page numbers
are a bit less obvious as they don't use the "**" methods. Generally for
going to a particular case or starting your research it's a fantastic
alternative.
  

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:05 AM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindlaw] Google introduced free legal research tool

I thought I should post this here since no one yet has done so.

I can tell you that I wished I had that in Law School. It is very very easy
to read a case on Google with JAWS.

I strongly advise law students to use it whenever your task is to simply
read a case... it is much faster than Westlaw. IT is not, however, a
replacement of Westlaw and others. It is a basic tool to search for and read
states and federal caselaw.

Go to
www.scholar.google.com

type your search and down arrow to select the check box that says legal
research or something to that effect.

Enjoy...

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
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From qmsingleton at comcast.net  Sun Nov 29 18:46:20 2009
From: qmsingleton at comcast.net (Quintina M. Singleton)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:46:20 -0600
Subject: [blindlaw] Dr. Maurer on Thruoureyes
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Please tune into a

very special addition of the Thruoureyes with Joe Ruffalo internet 
radio program

scheduled for Wednesday December 2

  at

8:00 PM EST.

The evening's guest will be National Federation of the Blind's 
president, Dr. Marc

Maurer.

  To listen to the program via telephone, please call

  1-605-475-6333, access code:

833520.

To access the show online visit www.thruoureyes.org/jaws.html

The call in number for anyone

interested in asking a question is 1-888-572-0141.

The theme for this program is Ask the President.

We encourage as many listeners to call in to Ask Dr. Maurer whatever 
question he

or she finds to be of importance.



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From attorney at alcidonislaw.com  Mon Nov 30 13:33:32 2009
From: attorney at alcidonislaw.com (Rod Alcidonis)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:33:32 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea
Message-ID: <10678CB795E343189473B61F385BF4A7@RodelynPC>

Jay:

The way I studied for big picture idea -- I would study the headings alone 
and after a few reads, I usually become comfortable with the structure of 
the given outline. I used that same technique for the bar and it worked well 
for me.

Rod Alcidonis
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Philadelphia, PA
Licensed in PA -- NJ Oath pending
C. 718-704-4651
Attorney at alcidonislaw.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton 
Houston

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From: "Bill Spiry" <bspiry at comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:36 AM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea

> Helpful. Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert Munro
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:52 AM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea
>
> I had trouble with roman numerals too during my 1L year, both in the
> outlines I prepared and in textbooks.  Here's how I dealt with the issue.
>
> To have JAWS distinguish between Arabic and roman numerals, Open your JAWS
> default dictionary and create definitions for the roman numerals.  Here 
> are
> some things to keep in mind when you do this.
>
> 1.  Have JAWS say "roman two," or something similar, for roman numeral 
> two,
> "roman three" for roman numeral three, ETC.
>
> 2.  Make sure your definitions are not case sensitive; that way, JAWS will
> catch both big and little roman numerals.  Of course, you could create two
> sets of definitions, one for big roman numerals and another for little 
> ones,
> with JAWS saying "big roman two" and "little roman two" respectively.  I
> chose not to do this.
>
> 3.  Skip roman numerals that consist of only one letter: I, V, L, X, C, D,
> and M.  These pop up too often in normal text.  It will only confuse 
> things
> if JAWS is treating them as roman numerals instead of letters.
>
> Good luck prepping for exams.  I hope my comments have been helpful.
>
> Onward!
>
> Rob Munro
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Johnston
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:44 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: [blindlaw] outlining method- maybe an oddball idea
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Thanks to everyone who sent me ideas for outlining.  Bruce, your ideas 
> about
> K1000 were especially generative.  I realized that it would be easiest 
> (for
> me) to comprehend an outline if it were in the tree format that is used to
> expand/collapse folders and subfolders in Kurzweil's Save As window.  Each
> level would represent a certain heading level, and opening a branch would
> display its subheadings.  It would allow tracing of paths like a flow 
> chart.
> Has anyone else thought of or tried using something like this?  Is this
> something that could be done in Excel?  I'm not super proficient at the
> program, but would have no clue how to construct a database (perhaps the
> alternative).
>
> Using the search feature in Word to jump from a specified heading to the
> same specified heading is fine, except that it is a one-trick pony unless
> altering the search.  Using the move by paragraph operation is good for
> moving step by step, but it doesn't allow easy comprehension of the big
> picture; JAWS doesn't even do a great job distinguishing between Roman and
> Arabic numerals.  Kurzweil might be a better option for creating a 
> standard
> outline, but it will take some getting used to losing the 10 digit keypad
> for navigation.  So far, I've only used the program for OCR, and save the
> files to Word for reading.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Jay
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From Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov  Mon Nov 30 18:20:33 2009
From: Ronza.Othman at dhs.gov (Othman, Ronza)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:20:33 -0500
Subject: [blindlaw] Vacancy Announcement at DHS Headquarters - EEO
Message-ID: <C7A83F855C9DFC4794B8695BC4C10E6815D330@ZAU1UG-0308.DHSNET.DS1.DHS>

HQ EEO has openings for Equal Employment Specialists GS-260-11/12/13
open in USAJOBS.  The announcement closes on 12/14/2009.  Below is the
link to the full text vacancy announcement.

 

FS-301285DE-SW10
<http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?OPMControl=1739031> 

 

FS-301285MP-SW10
<http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?OPMControl=1739058> 

 

Please share with anyone who may be eligible and interested.

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Ronza M. Othman, Esq.

Policy Advisor

Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties

U.S. Department of Homeland Security

202-357-8517

202-436-4437 (cell)

ronza.othman at dhs.gov <mailto:ronza.othman at dhs.gov> 

www.dhs.gov/civilliberties <http://www.dhs.gov/civilliberties>