From dandrews at visi.com Thu Oct 1 01:59:11 2009 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:59:11 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Date: September 24, 2009 FOR INFORMATION CONTACT: DBTAC National Network of ADA Centers 1-800-949-4232 PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS The public has been given 60 days to comment on proposed revisions to regulations implementing the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA), as amended by the ADA Amendments Act of 2008. The regulatory changes, contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking just announced by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), focuses on providing individuals seeking protection against employment discrimination under Title I of the ADA with a more expansive definition of "disability." Written comments must be submitted on or before November 23, 2009. The ADA is an antidiscrimination statute passed by Congress and signed into law by the President in July 1990. The EEOC is responsible for enforcing Title I of the ADA, which prohibits employment discrimination against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires employers to make reasonable accommodations to employees and job applicants with disabilities. "We encourage the public to submit comments directly to the EEOC." "People with disabilities will be the winners when the new regulations are fully implemented and extensive public comment will ensure they are the best that they can be." The ADA Amendments Act, which went into effect Jan. 1, 2009, and the regulatory revisions embedded in the proposed rule now available for public comment, makes it easier for an individual alleging employment discrimination based on disability to establish that he or she meets the ADA's definitions of "disability." The ADA Amendments Act also modifies the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibits employment discrimination in the federal workforce on the basis of disability. The regulatory changes in the proposed rule emphasize that the definition of disability-an impairment that poses a substantial limitation in a major life activity-must be construed in favor of broad coverage of individuals to the maximum extent permitted by the terms of the ADA, and should not require extensive analysis. The regulatory changes expand major life activities to include "major bodily functions, and clarify that mitigating measures, such as medications and devices that people use to reduce or eliminate the effects of impairment, are not to be considered when determining whether a person has a disability. They also clarify that impairments that are episodic or in remission, such as epilepsy, cancer, and many kinds of psychiatric impairments, are disabilities if they would "substantially limit" major life activities when active. --MORE-- Finally, the regulation revisions provide a more straightforward way of demonstrating a substantial limitation in the major life activity of working, and implements the ADA Amendment Act's new standard for determining whether someone is regarded as having a disability. The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking containing the regulatory changes is posted on the EEOC website, http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html along with a question-and-answer guide about the proposal and instructions for submitting public comments to the Commission. You Can Submit Comments by Mail, Fax and Electronically, Here's How: Written comments should be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive Officer, Executive Secretariat, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC 20507. Comments submitted by fax. As a convenience to commenters, the Executive Secretariat will accept comments transmitted by facsimile (``FAX'') machine. The telephone number of the FAX receiver is (202) 663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal to ensure access to the equipment. Receipt of FAX transmittals will not be acknowledged, except that the sender may request confirmation of receipt by calling the Executive Secretariat staff at (202) 663-4070 (voice) or (202) 663-4074 (TTY). (These are not toll-free telephone numbers.) Comments submitted electronically You may also submit comments and attachments electronically at http://www.regulations.gov , which is the Federal eRulemaking Portal. Follow the instructions online for submitting comments. Copies of comments submitted by the public will be available for review at the Commission's library, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Washington, DC 20507, between the hours of 9:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. or can be reviewed at http://www.regulations.gov. ### From stephanie_enyart at yahoo.com Thu Oct 1 03:37:19 2009 From: stephanie_enyart at yahoo.com (Stephanie Enyart) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:37:19 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <59E75F8EAB48470BAB9D6E4843DA1648@SLIM> Message-ID: <2993331CBBC34D2BA45BF749C4716C6E@DF5R2QD1> Hi Bruce, I would be happy to share the strategies I used. I ca be reached easiest via cell on nights and weekends: 415.596.6050. I live in Berkeley too. Best, Stephanie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Sexton Jr. Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:42 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject) Hello, I am enrolled in a LSAT preparation class. It's going well! Do any of you have tricks you've used to diagram for logical reasoning and or logic games? I know Deepa has used a magnet board, but I am interested in how other people have diagrammed so that all the information is represented, and all connections and inferences can be made. The teacher is using dashes, arrows and offshoots that divide two things, very much like a family tree! Any tips or tricks are greatly appreciated! Thank You, Bruce Sexton Jr. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject) > Test Please ignore, I am just testing a distribution rule. > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bjsexton%40comcast .net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stephanie_enyart%4 0yahoo.com From David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us Thu Oct 1 21:58:47 2009 From: David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us (David B Andrews) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:58:47 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: 2010 Washington Seminar Message-ID: >>> "Pare, John" 10/1/2009 3:37 PM >>> Fellow Federationists: The dates for Washington Seminar are: Monday, February 1 through Thursday, February 4, 2010 Great Gathering-In--Monday, February 1, 2010, 5 PM Congressional Appointments--February 2 through February 4, 2010 The following message comes from Diane McGeorge who organizes much of the logistics of Washington Seminar. * * * Please make your hotel reservations as soon as possible. We need to have reservations no later than December 30, 2009. Please do not contact the hotel to make your reservations. I submit all the reservations for the Washington Seminar. You may call (303) 778-1130, extension 219, to make your reservation, or you may e-mail your reservations to Lisa Bonder son at lbonderson at cocenter.org. We will confirm receipt of your reservation either by return e-mail or by telephone, so be sure to give us your telephone number and your e-mail address. The following is the information that I need to have to assure you of a room at the Holiday Inn Capitol. 1. Your date of arrival and departure. 2. First and last names of any roommates that might be sharing with you. If you make the reservation by phone, please spell first and last names of each person sharing the room. Please include arrival and departure date for each person. 3. Please specify if you wish to have: A smoking or non-smoking room An accessible room Two beds, one queen bed, or one king bed A rollaway bed (there will be a $10 charge per night) 4. If Divisions (i.e., Students, Parents, Merchants, Lawyers, etc.) wish to have space for a meeting, I must have your requirements for meeting space no later than December 1, 2009. We want to be able to accommodate everyone, and in order to do so we must have plenty of advance notice to work with the hotel. Per the hotel contract, individual cancellation must be made at least seventy-two hours prior to the date of arrival to avoid one-night's-room-plus-tax cancellation charge. You must get in touch with Lisa Bonder son or me to make changes to your reservation as soon as possible to avoid such a charge. The rates are $154 for single, double, triple, or quad rooms, and the tax is 14.5 percent per night. When you check in you must be prepared to cover at least the first night of your stay with either a credit card or check, and then arrange to pay the balance by presenting a credit card or a check for the remainder of the cost. Please remember, the deadline is December 30, 2009. There will be a number of special meetings during the seminar and you will want to watch the NFB Web site for special announcements. The Great Gathering-In meeting will be held on Monday, February 1, 2009. You certainly don't want to miss that. I hope this answers all of your questions. I look forward to seeing all of you in D.C. in February. Diane McGeorge From RODDJ12 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Oct 3 09:45:42 2009 From: RODDJ12 at HOTMAIL.COM (RODDJ12 at HOTMAIL.COM) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G Message-ID: <1124623515.6883891254563142608.JavaMail.tomcat@localhost> *Please note, the sender's email address has not been verified. 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With your mouse, highlight the Web Address above. Be sure to highlight the entire Web address, even if it spans more than one line in your email. 2. Select Copy from the Edit menu at the top of your screen. 3. Launch your Web browser. 4. Paste the address into your Web browser by selecting Paste from the Edit menu. 5. Click Go or press Enter or Return on your keyboard. ******************** From roddj12 at hotmail.com Sat Oct 3 09:49:16 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:49:16 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G Message-ID: Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G By STEPHANIE FARR Philadelphia Daily News farrs at phillynews.com 215-854-4225 Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a Philadelphia woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week. John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600. So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had not sufficiently protected its blind customers. "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal. In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a prostitute or that she had defrauded his credit card. She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual advances, according to court documents. That case also was dismissed. Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site. He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour. He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon amount - usually $750 for two hours. But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," according to court records. Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days that did not use her services. He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him his credit-card bill. When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take any action, court documents said. In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers to use their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants. In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at providing personal, hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set rate," according to court documents. It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated that those services were prostitution, court documents said. When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't bother me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the disciplinary board." In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women. "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind men." He said that he had the chutzpah to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her pay." "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said. Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court documents. When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, William Reil, who did not return calls for comment. Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates lessons were "ridiculous." "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said. In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do." In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed charges because they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted a breach of the card-member agreement. Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public accommodation." Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA because the ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said. Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not to include credit-card companies. "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the blind access to credit cards. If you can be cheated, then you can't use credit cards." Buzz up! 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Features | Columnists | Daily News Opinion | Photos | Multimedia | National News | Obituaries | Subscriber Services list end Classifieds: definition list of 1 items Jobs | Cars | From james.weisberg at comcast.net Sat Oct 3 12:53:02 2009 From: james.weisberg at comcast.net (James) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 08:53:02 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv Message-ID: I am posting this at the request of the American Diabetes Society. There was a post last week and the info was incomplete. See below. _____ From: Victoria Thomas [mailto:vthomas at diabetes.org] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 1:38 PM To: james.weisberg at comcast.net Subject: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv James, Thanks for your help with this! I drafted a post that is below my signature line. Victoria Thomas ADA - Novo Nordisk Legal Advocacy Fellow American Diabetes Association 1701 North Beauregard Street Alexandria, VA 22311 Tel: (800) 676-4065 ext. 2124 Fax: (703) 549-8748 E-mail: vthomas at diabetes.org www.diabetes.org/discrimination There was a recent message about the American Diabetes Association's upcoming attorney training and attorney network. In addition to training and referrals regarding education discrimination, the attorney training and attorney network also covers employment discrimination. Registration for the conference is still open, see the announcement, below. The program always gets rave reviews and the faculty includes some of the most experienced disability discrimination litigators from around the country. Attorneys who cannot attend the conference are still welcome to join the American Diabetes Association's attorney network, which includes referrals in education, employment, public accommodations, police, and prison discrimination, access to technical assistance in disability discrimination law and an active attorney listserv where disability law information, resources, and questions are frequently posted. You can check out the ADA's attorney materials bank, available at http://www.diabetes.org/advocacy-and-legalresources/attorneymaterials.jsp Still Time To Register Fighting For Fairness 2009: Ending Discrimination Against Students And Workers With Diabetes A few spots remain open for ADA Advocacy Attorney Network members to attend “Fighting For Fairness: Ending Discrimination Against Students and Workers With Diabetes 2009 (FFF2009), a training for attorneys, to take place at the Sheraton Gateway Hotel, Atlanta, GA on October 23-24. The program fee is only $50. CLEs will be offered. This is a terrific opportunity (which has been offered only on a biennial basis) to develop expertise (or build on existing knowledge) regarding diabetes and disability discrimination law. FFF2009 will provide participants will intensive skills building sessions designed to enhance their ability to represent either students or workers with diabetes. Specifically FFF 2009 will include: * Sessions on the impact of the Americans with Disabilities Act Amendments Act (ADAAA) of 2008 on diabetes-related discrimination, proving disability, and defense issues plus discussions of the EEOCs recently posted Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to Implement the ADA Amendments Act of 2008 and EEOC's Questions and Answers on its Proposed Regulations for the ADA Amendments Act make this an important and timely program. * Separate program tracks (6 ½ hours each) focused on diabetes discrimination in employment and school * Practical sessions on how to resolve diabetes discrimination problems * Information on the American Diabetes Association and other resources to assist in diabetes-related litigation To view the FFF 2009 brochure and to register, go to www.diabetes.org/fightingforfairness. Applicants will be accepted on a first-come, first-served basis. Some scholarship funding is available to assist with airfare based upon both the participant's and the ADA's needs. Join us at Fighting For Fairness 2009 and be a part of our campaign to end discrimination against students and workers with diabetes. Contact Steve Bieringer at stevebier at comcast.net or (303) 717-6707 with any questions. American Diabetes Association Cure. Care. Commitment. Visit us at http://diabetes.org Or Call 1-800-DIABETES (800-342-2383) From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Sat Oct 3 15:06:39 2009 From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne) Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:06:39 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091003150639.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile! Ray Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: , "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36 Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > > > Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > > By STEPHANIE FARR > Philadelphia Daily News > > farrs at phillynews.com > 215-854-4225 > > Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a Philadelphia > woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week. > > John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600. > > So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had not sufficiently > protected its blind customers. > > "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal. > > In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a prostitute > or that she had defrauded his credit card. > > She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual advances, > according to court documents. > > That case also was dismissed. > > Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site. > > He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour. > > He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a receipt �� which he couldn't see �� that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon amount > �� usually $750 for two hours. > > But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," according > to court records. > > Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days that did not use her services. > > He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him his credit-card bill. > > When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take any action, court documents said. > > In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers to use > their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants. > > In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at providing personal, > hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set rate," according to court documents. > > It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated that those services were prostitution, court documents said. > > When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't bother > me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the disciplinary > board." > > In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women. > > "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind men." > > He said that he had the chutzpah > to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her pay." > > "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said. > > Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court documents. > > When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, William Reil, > who did not return calls for comment. > > Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates lessons were "ridiculous." > > "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said. > > In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do." > > In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed charges because > they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted a breach of the card-member agreement. > > Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public accommodation." > > Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA because the > ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said. > > Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not to include credit-card companies. > > "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the blind access > to credit cards. 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Features | > Columnists | > Daily News Opinion | > Photos | > Multimedia | > National News | > Obituaries | > Subscriber Services > list end > > Classifieds: > > definition list of 1 items > Jobs > | > Cars > | > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for bllaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Sat Oct 3 16:37:42 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:37:42 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G In-Reply-To: <20091003150639.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> References: <20091003150639.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <21D4C111664E45A8A60E9576EE14582E@StevePC> Wow, even blind lawyers are stupid!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "ray wayne" To: ; Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile! > Ray Wayne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: , "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > > Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36 > Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > >> >> >> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G >> >> By STEPHANIE FARR >> Philadelphia Daily News >> >> farrs at phillynews.com >> 215-854-4225 >> >> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is >> hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a >> Philadelphia >> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week. >> >> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he >> says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600. >> >> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged >> violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had >> not sufficiently >> protected its blind customers. >> >> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said >> yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal. >> >> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that >> she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a >> prostitute >> or that she had defrauded his credit card. >> >> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched >> her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual >> advances, >> according to court documents. >> >> That case also was dismissed. >> >> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims >> to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site. >> >> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six >> months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour. >> >> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a >> receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon >> amount >> - usually $750 for two hours. >> >> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case >> $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," >> according >> to court records. >> >> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days >> that did not use her services. >> >> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him >> his credit-card bill. >> >> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take >> any action, court documents said. >> >> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that >> Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers >> to use >> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants. >> >> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a >> prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at >> providing personal, >> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set >> rate," according to court documents. >> >> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated >> that those services were prostitution, court documents said. >> >> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about >> using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't >> bother >> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, >> is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the >> disciplinary >> board." >> >> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" >> using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women. >> >> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going >> to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind >> men." >> >> He said that he had the chutzpah >> to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her >> pay." >> >> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too >> embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said. >> >> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, >> actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court >> documents. >> >> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the >> case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, >> William Reil, >> who did not return calls for comment. >> >> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates >> lessons were "ridiculous." >> >> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said. >> >> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone >> do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do." >> >> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' >> claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed >> charges because >> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted >> a breach of the card-member agreement. >> >> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities >> Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public >> accommodation." >> >> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: >> "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA >> because the >> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said. >> >> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not >> to include credit-card companies. >> >> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words >> expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the >> blind access >> to credit cards. If you can be cheated, then you can't use credit cards." >> >> Buzz up! >> Buzz this story. >> CURRENTLY SHOWING ON PHILLY.COM >> >> images/090325_pc_dish_203_kan_1 >> >> The Philly Dish: Cooking over a wood fire at Alba >> >> images/090923_pc_puc_elvez_1 >> >> Philly Uncorked: Spicy Spanish Garnacha >> >> images/090922_pc_MOB_Poker100 >> >> Mob Scene: Video Poker >> >> images/092909-sixr-100 >> >> 76ers open training camp >> >> images/090911_pc_DTS_Sep_100 >> >> Down the Shore: Julie and Emily savor September >> >> PEOPLE WHO READ THIS ALSO READ >> >> definition list of 5 items >> Jury awards $100 million to children of slain elderly couple >> 15-to-30 for killing man who saved his life >> Pizza-eating police nab three suspected thieves >> Harry Gross: Wife has inherit rights >> Convicted drug dealer testifies against friend >> list end >> >> ...disAND BOUGHT: >> >> >> Antibacterial Lotion Soap 800ml Bag... >> >> SamsClub.com >> >> >> 52" Philips LCD 1080p HDTV 120hz >> >> SamsClub.com >> >> >> Pet Jogger >> >> SamsClub.com >> >> logos/DiscoveryByPique_TO TO FF >> >> list of 4 items >> Jobs >> Cars >> Real Estate >> Rentals >> list end >> >> Flash movie start >> System Administrator >> FEATURED VIDEO: >> top >> jobs >> To View Videos... >> Sr. Adpe Engineer >> Unlabeled 7 >> Please click on a job description to the right. >> Supervisor >> Unlabeled 10 >> Unlabeled 11 >> Teller Supervisor, Sr Staff Accountant, Bank Operations Accounting Clerk >> JOB DETAILS >> Unlabeled 15 >> Unlabeled 16 >> Therapist >> Unlabeled 18 >> Flash movie end >> >> View all Top Jobs thx^^bben) >> >> SEARCH JOBS >> >> find thx^^bben) >> >> Sponsored Links >> Obama Urges Homeowners to Refinance >> >> ($200,000 Refinance under $1,059/mo) See Rates - No Credit Check Req. >> >> SeeRefinanceRates.com >> >> Obama Wants You to Return to School >> >> Get Your Degree Now. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.2/2408 - Release Date: 10/01/09 18:23:00 From mikefry79 at gmail.com Sat Oct 3 17:47:05 2009 From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:47:05 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G In-Reply-To: <21D4C111664E45A8A60E9576EE14582E@StevePC> References: <20091003150639.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> <21D4C111664E45A8A60E9576EE14582E@StevePC> Message-ID: <8c58e54a0910031047x1c34862dv2cddb09558fc26db@mail.gmail.com> He should be able to recover against that lady, I think. On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Steve P. Deeley wrote: > Wow, even blind lawyers are stupid!! > ----- Original Message ----- From: "ray wayne" > To: ; > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:06 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > > > > The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile! >> Ray Wayne >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rod Alcidonis" >> To: , "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >> >> Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36 >> Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G >> >> >>> >>> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G >>> >>> By STEPHANIE FARR >>> Philadelphia Daily News >>> >>> farrs at phillynews.com >>> 215-854-4225 >>> >>> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is >>> hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a >>> Philadelphia >>> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week. >>> >>> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he >>> says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600. >>> >>> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged >>> violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had not >>> sufficiently >>> protected its blind customers. >>> >>> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said >>> yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal. >>> >>> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that >>> she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a >>> prostitute >>> or that she had defrauded his credit card. >>> >>> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched >>> her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual >>> advances, >>> according to court documents. >>> >>> That case also was dismissed. >>> >>> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims >>> to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site. >>> >>> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six >>> months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour. >>> >>> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a >>> receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon >>> amount >>> - usually $750 for two hours. >>> >>> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case >>> $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," >>> according >>> to court records. >>> >>> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days >>> that did not use her services. >>> >>> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him >>> his credit-card bill. >>> >>> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take >>> any action, court documents said. >>> >>> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that >>> Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers to >>> use >>> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants. >>> >>> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a >>> prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at >>> providing personal, >>> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set >>> rate," according to court documents. >>> >>> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated >>> that those services were prostitution, court documents said. >>> >>> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about >>> using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't >>> bother >>> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, >>> is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the >>> disciplinary >>> board." >>> >>> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" >>> using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women. >>> >>> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going >>> to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind >>> men." >>> >>> He said that he had the chutzpah >>> to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her >>> pay." >>> >>> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too >>> embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said. >>> >>> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, >>> actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court >>> documents. >>> >>> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the >>> case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, >>> William Reil, >>> who did not return calls for comment. >>> >>> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates >>> lessons were "ridiculous." >>> >>> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said. >>> >>> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone >>> do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do." >>> >>> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' >>> claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed >>> charges because >>> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted >>> a breach of the card-member agreement. >>> >>> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities >>> Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public >>> accommodation." >>> >>> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: >>> "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA >>> because the >>> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said. >>> >>> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not >>> to include credit-card companies. >>> >>> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words >>> expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the >>> blind access >>> to credit cards. 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Deeley Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:38 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G Wow, even blind lawyers are stupid!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "ray wayne" To: ; Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile! > Ray Wayne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: , "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > > Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36 > Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > >> >> >> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G >> >> By STEPHANIE FARR >> Philadelphia Daily News >> >> farrs at phillynews.com >> 215-854-4225 >> >> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is >> hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a >> Philadelphia >> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week. >> >> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he >> says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600. >> >> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged >> violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had >> not sufficiently >> protected its blind customers. >> >> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said >> yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal. >> >> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that >> she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a >> prostitute >> or that she had defrauded his credit card. >> >> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched >> her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual >> advances, >> according to court documents. >> >> That case also was dismissed. >> >> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims >> to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site. >> >> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six >> months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour. >> >> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a >> receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon >> amount >> - usually $750 for two hours. >> >> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case >> $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," >> according >> to court records. >> >> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days >> that did not use her services. >> >> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him >> his credit-card bill. >> >> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take >> any action, court documents said. >> >> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that >> Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers >> to use >> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants. >> >> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a >> prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at >> providing personal, >> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set >> rate," according to court documents. >> >> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated >> that those services were prostitution, court documents said. >> >> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about >> using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't >> bother >> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, >> is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the >> disciplinary >> board." >> >> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" >> using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women. >> >> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going >> to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind >> men." >> >> He said that he had the chutzpah >> to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her >> pay." >> >> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too >> embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said. >> >> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, >> actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court >> documents. >> >> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the >> case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, >> William Reil, >> who did not return calls for comment. >> >> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates >> lessons were "ridiculous." >> >> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said. >> >> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone >> do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do." >> >> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' >> claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed >> charges because >> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted >> a breach of the card-member agreement. >> >> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities >> Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public >> accommodation." >> >> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: >> "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA >> because the >> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said. >> >> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not >> to include credit-card companies. >> >> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words >> expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the >> blind access >> to credit cards. If you can be cheated, then you can't use credit cards." >> >> Buzz up! >> Buzz this story. >> CURRENTLY SHOWING ON PHILLY.COM >> >> images/090325_pc_dish_203_kan_1 >> >> The Philly Dish: Cooking over a wood fire at Alba >> >> images/090923_pc_puc_elvez_1 >> >> Philly Uncorked: Spicy Spanish Garnacha >> >> images/090922_pc_MOB_Poker100 >> >> Mob Scene: Video Poker >> >> images/092909-sixr-100 >> >> 76ers open training camp >> >> images/090911_pc_DTS_Sep_100 >> >> Down the Shore: Julie and Emily savor September >> >> PEOPLE WHO READ THIS ALSO READ >> >> definition list of 5 items >> Jury awards $100 million to children of slain elderly couple >> 15-to-30 for killing man who saved his life >> Pizza-eating police nab three suspected thieves >> Harry Gross: Wife has inherit rights >> Convicted drug dealer testifies against friend >> list end >> >> ...disAND BOUGHT: >> >> >> Antibacterial Lotion Soap 800ml Bag... >> >> SamsClub.com >> >> >> 52" Philips LCD 1080p HDTV 120hz >> >> SamsClub.com >> >> >> Pet Jogger >> >> SamsClub.com >> >> logos/DiscoveryByPique_TO TO FF >> >> list of 4 items >> Jobs >> Cars >> Real Estate >> Rentals >> list end >> >> Flash movie start >> System Administrator >> FEATURED VIDEO: >> top >> jobs >> To View Videos... >> Sr. Adpe Engineer >> Unlabeled 7 >> Please click on a job description to the right. >> Supervisor >> Unlabeled 10 >> Unlabeled 11 >> Teller Supervisor, Sr Staff Accountant, Bank Operations Accounting Clerk >> JOB DETAILS >> Unlabeled 15 >> Unlabeled 16 >> Therapist >> Unlabeled 18 >> Flash movie end >> >> View all Top Jobs thx^^bben) >> >> SEARCH JOBS >> >> find thx^^bben) >> >> Sponsored Links >> Obama Urges Homeowners to Refinance >> >> ($200,000 Refinance under $1,059/mo) See Rates - No Credit Check Req. >> >> SeeRefinanceRates.com >> >> Obama Wants You to Return to School >> >> Get Your Degree Now. Financial Aid & Scholarships are available. >> >> www.classesusa.com >> >> Refinance Now at 4.25% Fixed >> >> $160,000 Mortgage for $633/mo. Free. No obligation. Get 4 quotes. >> >> MortgageRefinance.LendGo.com >> >> Advertise Here >> >> MOST POPULAR PHILLY.COM PHOTOS >> >> images/20091001_zombieprom_90 >> Philly Zombie Prom >> >> images/james_coleman_b_90 >> Cold Cases, Vanishings >> >> images/20090830_sexysingle_90 >> 2009 Sexy Singles + Party >> >> images/20090922_nakedbikeride_90 >> Philly Naked Bike Ride >> >> images/mtbambooinnableaf_promo >> Making Time Pool Party >> >> images/20080830_lingerieFB_90 >> Lingerie Football >> >> Daily Headlines >> >> Subscribe now! 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A Link to Barnes. >> designimages/spacer >> >> list end >> >> Mayors' group comes... >> >> By Monica Yant Kinney, Inquirer Columnist >> >> >From deli to dollars, Dietz & Watson is a treasure >> >> No more Columbus parade snafus, vows Sons of Italy >> >> list of 2 items >> Viewed >> Shared >> list end >> >> definition list of 10 items >> >> Paul Domowitch: Gruden likes Wildcat, but not with Eagles >> >> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G >> >> CBS worker arrested in Letterman blackmail plot >> >> TD Bank scrambles to fix computer problems >> >> Phillies Notes: Manuel hints of Phillies' playoff rotation >> >> Thief holds knife to tot's neck, slashes teen >> >> Raids target knock-offs on South Street >> >> Suit filed by Hudson River air-crash victim's widow >> >> Pizza-eating police nab three suspected thieves >> >> High School Sport Score Board >> list end >> thx^^bben) >> More Most Viewed >> >> today's Philly.com poll >> >> Are y... >> >> Getting excited about the Phillies again >> >> Still uncertain about the Eagles >> >> Ready for the Sixers >> >> Strictly a Flyers fan >> >> Watching the mailbox for your Philadelphia Union season tickets >> >> View results >> >> Vote >> >> definition list of 6 items >> XML >> TODAY's PHILLY.COM VIDEOS >> >> Sudoku on the Rails >> >> Hoarder charged with animal cruelty >> >> Deep Sixer Playlist >> >> Penn State videos >> >> Kate Gosselin to go solo >> More videos thx^^bben) >> >> designimages/spacer >> list end >> >> Philly.com Promotions >> >> definition list of 7 items >> >> Flourish >> >> Philly.com Contests >> >> Philadelphia Visitors Guide >> >> Philadelphia Business Today >> >> Philadelphia Restaurants >> >> Philadelphia Sports >> >> Philly.com Twitter Directory >> list end >> >> definition list of 6 items >> latest photo galleries >> >> Marlins 7, Phils 2 >> >> Northeast 14, Washington 12 >> >> St. Joe's Prep 28, Judge 21 >> >> Eustace 28, Cinnaminson 20 >> >> Flyers 2, Hurricanes 0 >> >> D'town East 32, Avon Grove 21 >> >> designimages/spacer >> list end >> >> C & S CONTRACTORS >> >> ROOFING SALE -- All Types Of Roofs -- 215-332-6600 >> >> SUPREME BUFFET & GRILL >> >> 101 S. 69;TH STREET IN UPPER DARBY, PA >> >> Lisa/Eric Poppel Majestic Productions >> >> The Ultimate Collectibles Show Oct. 3rd & 4th The Greater Phila Expo >> Center Oaks PA 200+ dealer tables and 125 autograph guests each day >> >> PHILA. PUBLIC AUTO AUCTION >> >> Wed. and Sat. Auctions - 57th & Woodland Ave. - 215-730-9922 >> >> Broadview Kitchen & Bath >> >> Check out our year round specials >> >> Philly.com: >> >> definition list of 1 items >> News >> | >> Sports | >> Business | >> What's Happening | >> Restaurants & Food | >> Entertainment | >> Living | >> Marketplace | >> Jobs >> list end >> >> Site Services: >> >> definition list of 1 items >> Advertise on Philly.com >> | >> View print ads and special sections >> | >> Mobile Edition >> | >> The e-Inquirer >> | >> Join Our Team >> | >> News In Education >> list end >> >> The Inquirer: >> >> definition list of 1 items >> News >> | >> Front Page | >> Sports | >> Business | >> Obituaries | >> Arts & Entertainment | >> Food, Home & Life | >> Health & Science | >> Education | >> Opinion | >> Blogs & Columns | >> Subscriber Services >> list end >> >> Daily News: >> >> definition list of 1 items >> City & Local >> | >> Sports | >> Yo! 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.2/2408 - Release Date: 10/01/09 18:23:00 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/james.weisberg%40c omcast.net From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 3 21:10:29 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:10:29 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Hud charges Illinois university with violating Fair Housing Act Message-ID: <7895CB8CB1FC4F7488EC71392FF32F41@spike> HUD Charges? Illinois University with Violating the Fair Housing Act? Thursday, Oct 1, 2009 @10:50am CDT WASHINGTON - The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development today announced that it has charged? Millikin University in Decatur, Illinois with housing discrimination for allegedly refusing to allow a student with epilepsy and blindness to live in a dormitory with her trained service dog. The Fair Housing Act makes it unlawful to refuse to make reasonable accommodations in policies or practices when a person with a disability may require such an accommodation in order be afforded the equal housing opportunity others enjoy. "Having a service animal promotes independent living for many people with disabilities, " said John Trasvia, HUD's Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity. "HUD is committed to making sure colleges and universities promote supportive living environments for people living with disabilities. " HUD brought the charge on behalf of the student who obtained a service dog from a non-profit organization that trained the dog to assist the student in the event of an epileptic seizure. HUD alleges that once the student obtained the service animal, Millikin University banned the student from even entering the dormitory building with the dog, requiring the student to vacate her room if she wanted to keep the animal and commute to school from her parents' home. Later, the university relocated the student to an inaccessible dormitory. The HUD charge will be heard by a United States Administrative Law Judge unless any party to the charge elects to have the case heard in federal district court. If an administrative law judge finds after a hearing that discrimination has occurred, he may award damages to the complainant for her damages as a result of the discrimination. The judge may also order injunctive relief and other equitable relief to deter further discrimination, as well as payment of attorney fees. In addition, the judge may impose civil penalties in order to vindicate the public interest. A federal district court judge may also award punitive damages to the complainant. FHEO and its partners in the Fair Housing Assistance Program investigate approximately 10,500 housing discrimination complaints annually. People who believe they are the victims of housing discrimination should contact HUD at 1-800-669-9777(voice), 800-927-9275 (TTY). Additional information is available at www.hud.gov/fairhousing. http://illinoishomepage.net/content/fulltext /?cid=109371_ From k7uij at panix.com Sun Oct 4 23:30:04 2009 From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:30:04 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv References: Message-ID: <18371BAEE27A4066857C1E4455CCC296@owner96190708e> I find the below highly ironic in that I have never seen the American Diabetes Association show much concern about the *real* issues facing blind diabetics (presumably, the group it would care most about) such as the lack of an accessible insulin pump, the lack of responsiveness of Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk in removing warnings from their insulin pen packaging and inserts that caution against use of insulin pens by the blind or visually impaired without the supervision of a sighted person or the relative paucity of accessible American Diabetes ASsociation literature other than on-line. Mike Freeman, President Diabetes Action Network National Federation of the Blind ----- Original Message ----- From: "James" To: Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: [blindlaw] FW: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv I am posting this at the request of the American Diabetes Society. There was a post last week and the info was incomplete. See below. _____ From: Victoria Thomas [mailto:vthomas at diabetes.org] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 1:38 PM To: james.weisberg at comcast.net Subject: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv James, Thanks for your help with this! I drafted a post that is below my signature line. Victoria Thomas ADA - Novo Nordisk Legal Advocacy Fellow American Diabetes Association 1701 North Beauregard Street Alexandria, VA 22311 Tel: (800) 676-4065 ext. 2124 Fax: (703) 549-8748 E-mail: vthomas at diabetes.org www.diabetes.org/discrimination There was a recent message about the American Diabetes Association's upcoming attorney training and attorney network. In addition to training and referrals regarding education discrimination, the attorney training and attorney network also covers employment discrimination. Registration for the conference is still open, see the announcement, below. The program always gets rave reviews and the faculty includes some of the most experienced disability discrimination litigators from around the country. Attorneys who cannot attend the conference are still welcome to join the American Diabetes Association's attorney network, which includes referrals in education, employment, public accommodations, police, and prison discrimination, access to technical assistance in disability discrimination law and an active attorney listserv where disability law information, resources, and questions are frequently posted. You can check out the ADA's attorney materials bank, available at http://www.diabetes.org/advocacy-and-legalresources/attorneymaterials.jsp Still Time To Register Fighting For Fairness 2009: Ending Discrimination Against Students And Workers With Diabetes A few spots remain open for ADA Advocacy Attorney Network members to attend “Fighting For Fairness: Ending Discrimination Against Students and Workers With Diabetes 2009 (FFF2009), a training for attorneys, to take place at the Sheraton Gateway Hotel, Atlanta, GA on October 23-24. The program fee is only $50. CLEs will be offered. This is a terrific opportunity (which has been offered only on a biennial basis) to develop expertise (or build on existing knowledge) regarding diabetes and disability discrimination law. FFF2009 will provide participants will intensive skills building sessions designed to enhance their ability to represent either students or workers with diabetes. Specifically FFF 2009 will include: * Sessions on the impact of the Americans with Disabilities Act Amendments Act (ADAAA) of 2008 on diabetes-related discrimination, proving disability, and defense issues plus discussions of the EEOCs recently posted Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to Implement the ADA Amendments Act of 2008 and EEOC's Questions and Answers on its Proposed Regulations for the ADA Amendments Act make this an important and timely program. * Separate program tracks (6 ½ hours each) focused on diabetes discrimination in employment and school * Practical sessions on how to resolve diabetes discrimination problems * Information on the American Diabetes Association and other resources to assist in diabetes-related litigation To view the FFF 2009 brochure and to register, go to www.diabetes.org/fightingforfairness. Applicants will be accepted on a first-come, first-served basis. Some scholarship funding is available to assist with airfare based upon both the participant's and the ADA's needs. Join us at Fighting For Fairness 2009 and be a part of our campaign to end discrimination against students and workers with diabetes. Contact Steve Bieringer at stevebier at comcast.net or (303) 717-6707 with any questions. American Diabetes Association Cure. Care. Commitment. Visit us at http://diabetes.org Or Call 1-800-DIABETES (800-342-2383) _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com From craig.borne at dot.gov Mon Oct 5 15:11:37 2009 From: craig.borne at dot.gov (craig.borne at dot.gov) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:11:37 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: DC: Job open to Aide Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor-DEADLINE: October 7, 2009 (close of business) Message-ID: <61017FCC3706464B8ACB770A8038174E75E72E@OSTMAIL03VS3.ad.dot.gov> ________________________________ Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: FW: DC: Job open to Aide Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor-DEADLINE: October 7, 2009 (close of business) Friends, This looks like an exciting opportunity to pass on to our networks. JOB VACANCY POSITION: Aide to Sonia Sotomayor's Chambers (1-yr appointment with possible 1-year extension) DESCRIPTION: Responsibilities include intake, tracking, retrieval and disposal of case-related documents; preparing cert lists detailing various assignments; filing correspondence on argued cases; photocopying; messenger services within and outside the building as assigned; assisting with basic secretarial duties; assisting the Justice as requested; and occasional driving duties. QUALIFICATIONS: Highly motivated, detail-oriented individual. High school diploma, Microsoft Office skills, driver's license, good driving record, and knowledge of DC and surrounding areas required. College degree and prior work experience in a busy environment strongly preferred. Fluency in speaking, reading and writing Spanish strongly preferred. Employment is subject to successful completion of a security background check. SALARY: From SCP-6/1 ($37,084) to SCP-7 ($41,210 to $53,574) (SCP-7 is the Full Performance Level) DEADLINE: October 7, 2009 (close of business) TO APPLY, please FAX to the Supreme Court of the United States at 202-479-3076 the following required forms: * OF-306 - Declaration for Federal Employment* * OF-612 - Optional Application for Federal Employment*, along with * Resume and Cover Letter Phone Number: 202-479-3404 *Optional Forms 306 and 612 can be obtained from www.usajobs. opm.gov . . From roddj12 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 6 13:38:09 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:38:09 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Labeling and keeping docs in order: anyone using the new Penfriend device. In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E1D9@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E1D9@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Message-ID: I just heard of this new device -- I wanted to further investigate it before I go and make the purchase. It is called the Penfriend, available on the Independent Living Aides website. It is a labeling device, similar to a barcode device, but you record your voice to each lable. I think this can be used to organize documents/client files, exhibits, etc.Can anyone share some info on this please if you are currently using it in your practice? Take care. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:49 AM To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject) > Test Please ignore, I am just testing a distribution rule. > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Oct 6 20:26:31 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:26:31 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT Message-ID: ________________________________ From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM To: Nightingale, Noel Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT Importance: High From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT Importance: High ________________________________ From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT Importance: High Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM Subject: Requested Assistance I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position Description for the ECRB Manager position. Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position. Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama Diversity Programs Administrator Office of Equal Opportunity Washington State Department of Transportation Office: (360) 705-7096 BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 Fax: (360) 705-6801 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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To learn more, visit http://www.google.com/friendconnect From kdbenterprises at yahoo.com Tue Oct 6 20:37:26 2009 From: kdbenterprises at yahoo.com (kdbenterprises at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:37:26 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] kdb invites you to check out Hollywood Beach Fl blog Message-ID: <001485eba8a0c47f4404754a32ea@google.com> I'm following Hollywood Beach Fl blog and think you'll be interested in it as well. To check it out, follow the link below: http://hollywoodbeachflblog.blogspot.com/?psinvite=ALRopfXJZPhQHXxo7XvXvst9dKN_4y498dhZIiYyyR0hEwiQQnKeODPx5LIw910WUAJwT805XvhAJUvyLVIDjUKY0jmNvhHY_g ----- Google Friend Connect helps people with common interests discover interesting sites and interesting people. To learn more, visit http://www.google.com/friendconnect From kdbenterprises at yahoo.com Wed Oct 7 17:21:40 2009 From: kdbenterprises at yahoo.com (kdb) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] [B P T] Fw:Where is the class action suit on this one?? Pass the BUTTER PLEASE.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17110.95084.qm@web57305.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Sounds like a simple solution- my idea is to have our Gov. get it off our market shelves please and assemble the class action suit. Pass The Butter .. Please. >This is interesting . . . >Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys. When it killed >the turkeys, the people who had put all the money into the research wanted >a payback so they put their heads together to figure out what to do with >this product to get their money back. It was a white substance with no food >appeal so they added the yellow coloring and sold it to people to use in >place of butter. How do you like it? They have come out with some clever >new flavorings.. > >DO YOU KNOW.. the difference between margarine and butter? >Read on to the end...gets very interesting! > >Both have the same amount of calories.. >Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5 >grams. >Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over >eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard Medical Study. >Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other >foods. >Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few >only because they are added! >Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavors of >other foods. >Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for >less than 100 years . > >And now, for Margarine.. > >Very high in Trans fatty acids. >Triple risk of coronary heart disease . >Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and >lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol) >Increases the risk of cancers up to five fold.. >Lowers quality of breast milk. >Decreases immune response. >Decreases insulin response. > >And here's the most disturbing fact.... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY >INTERESTING! > >Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC.. > >This fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and >anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the >molecular structure of the substance). > >You can try this yourself: > >Purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your garage or shaded area.. >Within a couple of days you will note a couple of things: >* no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that >should tell you something) >* it does not rot or smell differently because it has no nutritional >value ; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny weeny microorganisms will >not a find a home to grow. Why? Because it is nearly plastic . Would you >melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast? > >Pass the BUTTER PLEASE.. > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >__._,_.___ >Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic >Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar > >Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) >Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional >Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity >Visit Your Group >Give Back >Yahoo! for Good > >Get inspired > >by a good cause. > >Y! Toolbar >Get it Free! > >easy 1-click access > >to your groups. > >Yahoo! Groups >Start a group > >in 3 easy steps. > >Connect with others. >. > >__,_._,___ >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >_______________________________________________ >Blind-positive-thinkers mailing list >Blind-positive-thinkers at raineemusic.com >http://raineemusic.com/mailman/listinfo/blind-positive-thinkers_raineemusic.com > From JFreeh at nfb.org Thu Oct 8 02:06:55 2009 From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh, Jessica) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:06:55 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind Announces Dr. Jacob Bolotin Awards Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Chris Danielsen Director of Public Relations National Federation of the Blind (410) 659-9314, extension 2330 (410) 262-1281 (Cell) cdanielsen at nfb.org National Federation of the Blind Announces Dr. Jacob Bolotin Awards National Federation of the Blind to Award $50,000 in 2010 Baltimore, Maryland (October 7, 2009): The National Federation of the Blind today announced that applications are now being accepted for the 2010 Dr. Jacob Bolotin Award Program. Each year the National Federation of the Blind presents cash awards to individuals and organizations that have made outstanding contributions toward achieving the full integration of the blind into society on a basis of equality. Dr. Jacob Bolotin was a blind physician who lived and practiced in Chicago in the early twentieth century. He was widely known and respected in Chicago and throughout the Midwest during his career, which spanned the period from 1912 until his untimely death at the age of thirty-six in 1924. He was particularly recognized for his expertise on diseases of the heart and lungs. Bolotin used his many public speaking engagements to advocate for the employment of the blind and their full integration into society. Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: "Dr. Jacob Bolotin was a pioneer who overcame low expectations and discrimination to become a renowned member of the medical profession without the benefit of the support services and civil rights protections available to blind people today. He was also a fierce advocate for greater opportunity for the blind in his time, and doubtless would have been a leader in the organized blind movement had he lived to see it come into being. The Jacob Bolotin Award Program celebrates his pioneering spirit by recognizing and supporting outstanding programs, technologies, and individual efforts that promote independence and opportunity for blind Americans." Recipients of the 2010 Dr. Jacob Bolotin Awards will be determined by the Dr. Jacob Bolotin Award Committee of the National Federation of the Blind. Online applications are due by April 15, 2010. Individuals or organizations are encouraged to apply on behalf of themselves or others. The award recipients will be announced at the 2010 National Federation of the Blind Convention in Dallas. A total of $50,000 will be distributed to the award recipients. The Jacob Bolotin Award Program is funded through the generosity of Dr. Bolotin's nephew and niece, Alfred and Rosalind Pearlman. In addition to establishing the Alfred and Rosalind Pearlman Trust to endow the awards, the late Mrs. Pearlman also wrote The Blind Doctor: The Jacob Bolotin Story. The book has been published by Blue Point Books and can be ordered directly from the publisher at www.bluepointbooks.com. Proceeds from book sales will also benefit the award program. For more information or to fill out the online application, please visit www.nfb.org. ### About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. Please visit our Web site: www.nfb.org. From roddj12 at hotmail.com Thu Oct 8 14:11:06 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:11:06 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their results. I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. I need a beer now! Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nightingale, Noel" Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM To: ; ; Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > > ________________________________ > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > To: Nightingale, Noel > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > > > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > ________________________________ > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > Subject: Requested Assistance > I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT > Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager > position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the > ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position > Description for the ECRB Manager position. > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. > Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency > Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in > hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a > work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I > am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and > transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. > > Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested > candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please > contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my > commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive > networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the > ECRB Manager position. > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > Diversity Programs Administrator > Office of Equal Opportunity > Washington State Department of Transportation > Office: (360) 705-7096 > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From bspiry at comcast.net Thu Oct 8 15:08:49 2009 From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:08:49 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congrats dude! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their results. I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. I need a beer now! Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nightingale, Noel" Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM To: ; ; Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > > ________________________________ > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > To: Nightingale, Noel > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > > > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > ________________________________ > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > Subject: Requested Assistance > I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT > Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager > position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the > ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position > Description for the ECRB Manager position. > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. > Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency > Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in > hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a > work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I > am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and > transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. > > Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested > candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please > contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my > commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive > networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the > ECRB Manager position. > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > Diversity Programs Administrator > Office of Equal Opportunity > Washington State Department of Transportation > Office: (360) 705-7096 > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n et No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 06:50:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 06:50:00 From mhanson at winternet.com Thu Oct 8 15:22:25 2009 From: mhanson at winternet.com (Michael O. Hanson) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:22:25 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! References: Message-ID: <5D825D82915A47C8B307587620CD5796@hp048378e4c43a> Good for you. You've earned that beer! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their > results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this > process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; ; > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >> To: Nightingale, Noel >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> >> >> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >> Subject: Requested Assistance >> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has >> a work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, >> I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's >> and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >> >> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for >> the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >> Diversity Programs Administrator >> Office of Equal Opportunity >> Washington State Department of Transportation >> Office: (360) 705-7096 >> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >> >> >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mhanson%40winternet.com > From k7uij at panix.com Thu Oct 8 15:26:21 2009 From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:26:21 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! References: Message-ID: Bravo, Rod! Way to go! Mike Freeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their results. I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. I need a beer now! Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nightingale, Noel" Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM To: ; ; Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > > ________________________________ > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > To: Nightingale, Noel > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > > > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > ________________________________ > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > Subject: Requested Assistance > I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT > Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) > Manager > position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired > after > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the > ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position > Description for the ECRB Manager position. > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within > ECRB. > Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency > Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment > in > hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that > has a > work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, > I > am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's > and > transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. > > Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of > interested > candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please > contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm > my > commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with > extensive > networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for > the > ECRB Manager position. > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > Diversity Programs Administrator > Office of Equal Opportunity > Washington State Department of Transportation > Office: (360) 705-7096 > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com From dfrye at nfb.org Thu Oct 8 15:45:39 2009 From: dfrye at nfb.org (Dan Frye) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:45:39 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! Message-ID: Rod: Congratulations! With Kind Regards, Daniel B. Frye Office: (410) 659-9314, Ext 2208 Mobile: (410) 241-7006 Note: This message has been issued remotely from the Braille Note. > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Date sent: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:11:06 -0400 >Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! >Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their >results. >I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process >since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. >I need a beer now! >Rod Alcidonis, J.D. >C. 718-704-4651 >roddj12 at hotmail.com >"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >Houston >-------------------------------------------------- >From: "Nightingale, Noel" Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM >To: ; ; Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> ________________________________ >> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >> To: Nightingale, Noel >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> ________________________________ >> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >> Subject: Requested Assistance >> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a >> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I >> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and >> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the >> ECRB Manager position. >> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >> Diversity Programs Administrator >> Office of Equal Opportunity >> Washington State Department of Transportation >> Office: (360) 705-7096 >> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12 %40hotmail.com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dfrye%4 0nfb.org From brandon.mcginty at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 16:04:41 2009 From: brandon.mcginty at gmail.com (brandon mcginty) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:04:41 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com> Excellent. Congratulations. Sincerely, Brandon McGinty On 10/8/09, Bill Spiry wrote: > Congrats dude! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania > barexam! > > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their > results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process > since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; ; > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >> To: Nightingale, Noel >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> >> >> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >> Subject: Requested Assistance >> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a > >> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I >> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and >> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >> >> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the > >> ECRB Manager position. >> >> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >> Diversity Programs Administrator >> Office of Equal Opportunity >> Washington State Department of Transportation >> Office: (360) 705-7096 >> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >> >> >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n > et > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 > 06:50:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 > 06:50:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brandon.mcginty%40gmail.com > From roddj12 at hotmail.com Thu Oct 8 16:59:39 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:59:39 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabarexam! In-Reply-To: <3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com> References: <3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks guys for all of the nice words. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "brandon mcginty" Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:04 PM To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabarexam! > Excellent. Congratulations. > > Sincerely, > Brandon McGinty > > > On 10/8/09, Bill Spiry wrote: >> Congrats dude! >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis >> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM >> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania >> barexam! >> >> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their >> results. >> >> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this >> process >> since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. >> >> I need a beer now! >> >> Rod Alcidonis, J.D. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Nightingale, Noel" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM >> To: ; ; >> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >>> To: Nightingale, Noel >>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>> Importance: High >>> >>> >>> >>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>> Importance: High >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>> Importance: High >>> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >>> Subject: Requested Assistance >>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >>> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >>> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >>> >>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has >>> a >> >>> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I >>> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and >>> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >>> >>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >>> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for >>> the >> >>> ECRB Manager position. >>> >>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >>> Diversity Programs Administrator >>> Office of Equal Opportunity >>> Washington State Department of Transportation >>> Office: (360) 705-7096 >>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >>> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. >> com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n >> et >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 >> 06:50:00 >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 >> 06:50:00 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brandon.mcginty%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 8 16:58:33 2009 From: william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com (William ODonnell) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <243706.60606.qm@web30905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am glad to here that. I knew you would achieve this. --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Rod Alcidonis wrote: > From: Rod Alcidonis > Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:11 AM > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now > waiting for New Jerseyto released their results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me > in this process since the beginning. This is a remarkable > guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - > Charles Hamilton Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; > ; > > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at > DOT > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > > To: Nightingale, Noel > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > > > > > > > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > > Subject: Requested Assistance > > I am asking for your help to identify viable > candidates for the WSDOT Office of Equal Opportunity > External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager position that > has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned > copies of the ECRB  job announcement and the current > WMS Band 3 Management Position Description for the ECRB > Manager position. > > > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates > from within ECRB. Because of the importance of the ECRB > Manager position to the agency Brenda Nnambi was given > permission to conduct an external recruitment in hopes of > attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a > candidate that has a work background that matches all the > essential areas for the position, I am confident that there > are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and > transferable work experiences who would make excellent > candidates. > > > > Anything you can do to get our information into the > hands of interested candidates would really be appreciated! > If you have questions please contact  me or > Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm > my commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks > with extensive networks themselves who may be able to help > us identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position. > > > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > > Diversity Programs Administrator > > Office of Equal Opportunity > > Washington State Department of Transportation > > Office: (360) 705-7096 > > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for blindlaw: > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/william.odonnell1%40yahoo.com > From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Thu Oct 8 17:58:29 2009 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:58:29 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabarexam! References: Message-ID: >From 2,000 miles across one pond to many, hearty congratulations to you Rod for your success with the Pennsylvania Bar Exam! May you find the practice of law a very rewarding career and the Good Lord bless you as you get settled in the profession! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From roddj12 at hotmail.com Thu Oct 8 20:12:50 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:12:50 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed thePennsylvaniabarexam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Olusegun: Thanks thanks thanks. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:58 PM To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed thePennsylvaniabarexam! >>From 2,000 miles across one pond to many, hearty congratulations to you >>Rod > for your success with the Pennsylvania Bar Exam! May you find the > practice of law a very rewarding career and the Good Lord bless you as you > get settled in the profession! > > Sincerely, > Olusegun > Denver, Colorado > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From jsorozco at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 20:59:00 2009 From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:59:00 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabar exam! In-Reply-To: <243706.60606.qm@web30905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <12C53ED0D7EC419096AD52575DA916F6@Rufus> Damn, one more liar, ahem, lawyer to add to the mix? Haha, kidding man. Congratulations. You do everyone proud. Joe Orozco "A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the crowd."--Max Lucado -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William ODonnell Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:59 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabar exam! I am glad to here that. I knew you would achieve this. --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Rod Alcidonis wrote: > From: Rod Alcidonis > Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:11 AM Yes, I did it! I passed. I > am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this > process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles > Hamilton Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; > ; > > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > > To: Nightingale, Noel > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > > > > > > > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > > Subject: Requested Assistance > > I am asking for your help to identify viable > candidates for the WSDOT Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil > Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager position that has been vacant since July > 1 when Jim Medina retired after > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned > copies of the ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 > Management Position Description for the ECRB Manager position. > > > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates > from within ECRB. Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager > position to the agency Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct > an external recruitment in hopes of attracting candidates with the > skill sets needed for the position. Although it is unlikely that we > will find a candidate that has a work background that matches all the > essential areas for the position, I am confident that there are > seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and transferable work > experiences who would make excellent candidates. > > > > Anything you can do to get our information into the > hands of interested candidates would really be appreciated! > If you have questions please contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied > Brenda on this email to confirm my commitment to her to use my network > to reach out to folks with extensive networks themselves who may be > able to help us identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position. > > > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > > Diversity Programs Administrator > > Office of Equal Opportunity > > Washington State Department of Transportation > > Office: (360) 705-7096 > > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for blindlaw: > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40 > > hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/william.odon > nell1%40yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jsoroz co%40gmail.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4491 (20091008) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4491 (20091008) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 21:51:54 2009 From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:51:54 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabarexam! References: Message-ID: <00a301ca4861$8de08690$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62> Great! Congratulations. Best Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Spiry" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabarexam! > Congrats dude! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania > barexam! > > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their > results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this > process > since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; ; > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >> To: Nightingale, Noel >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> >> >> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >> Subject: Requested Assistance >> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has >> a > >> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I >> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and >> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >> >> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for >> the > >> ECRB Manager position. >> >> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >> Diversity Programs Administrator >> Office of Equal Opportunity >> Washington State Department of Transportation >> Office: (360) 705-7096 >> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >> >> >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n > et > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 > 06:50:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 > 06:50:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/craigspencer2.0%40gmail.com From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Thu Oct 8 22:58:04 2009 From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:58:04 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091008225804.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> Congratulations, Rod. I didn't really do anything; you did all the hard work. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Date: Thursday, Oct 8, 2009 10:58:34 Subject: [bllaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! > > > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their > results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process > since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." �� Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; ; > Subject: [bllaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > > To: Nightingale, Noel > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > > > > > > > From: ESAID GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > > Subject: Requested Assistance > > I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT > > Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager > > position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after > > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the > > ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position > > Description for the ECRB Manager position. > > > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. > > Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency > > Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in > > hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the > > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a > > work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I > > am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and > > transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. > > > > Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested > > candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please > > contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my > > commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive > > networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the > > ECRB Manager position. > > > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > > Diversity Programs Administrator > > Office of Equal Opportunity > > Washington State Department of Transportation > > Office: (360) 705-7096 > > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > bllaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > bllaw: > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for bllaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com From langlois2 at verizon.net Fri Oct 9 02:10:39 2009 From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:10:39 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! References: Message-ID: <84B89E58707E4D5C92FB89B9EB47BC2E@barney03> Congratulations, Rod! Best wishes in your future endeavours! brian Langlois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:11 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their > results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this > process > since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; ; > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >> To: Nightingale, Noel >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> >> >> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >> Subject: Requested Assistance >> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has >> a >> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I >> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and >> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >> >> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for >> the >> ECRB Manager position. >> >> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >> Diversity Programs Administrator >> Office of Equal Opportunity >> Washington State Department of Transportation >> Office: (360) 705-7096 >> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >> >> >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/langlois2%40verizon.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.8/2423 - Release Date: 10/08/09 18:33:00 From cdanielsen8 at aol.com Fri Oct 9 09:56:49 2009 From: cdanielsen8 at aol.com (Chris Danielsen) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:56:49 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C1B8E200C0541B0A497CA578F693C4E@Scorpio13> Congratulations Rod! Chris -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:11 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their results. I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. I need a beer now! Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nightingale, Noel" Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM To: ; ; Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > > ________________________________ > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > To: Nightingale, Noel > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > > > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > ________________________________ > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > Subject: Requested Assistance > I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT > Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) > Manager position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina > retired after > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the > ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position > Description for the ECRB Manager position. > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. > Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency > Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment > in hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that > has a work background that matches all the essential areas for the > position, I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of > the KSA's and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. > > Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of > interested candidates would really be appreciated! If you have > questions please contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this > email to confirm my commitment to her to use my network to reach out > to folks with extensive networks themselves who may be able to help us > identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position. > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > Diversity Programs Administrator > Office of Equal Opportunity > Washington State Department of Transportation > Office: (360) 705-7096 > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40ho > tmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdanielsen8%40aol. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4492 (20091009) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4492 (20091009) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From womankind at earthlink.net Fri Oct 9 13:35:49 2009 From: womankind at earthlink.net (Stephanie Ortoleva) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:35:49 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabarexam! In-Reply-To: References: <3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Fantastic!At 12:59 PM 10/8/2009, you wrote: >Thanks guys for all of the nice words. > > >Rod Alcidonis, J.D. >C. 718-704-4651 >roddj12 at hotmail.com >"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >Hamilton Houston > >-------------------------------------------------- >From: "brandon mcginty" >Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:04 PM >To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the >Pennsylvaniabarexam! > >>Excellent. Congratulations. >> >>Sincerely, >>Brandon McGinty >> >> >>On 10/8/09, Bill Spiry wrote: >>>Congrats dude! >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >>>Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis >>>Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM >>>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >>>Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania >>>barexam! >>> >>>Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their >>>results. >>> >>>I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process >>>since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. >>> >>>I need a beer now! >>> >>>Rod Alcidonis, J.D. >>>C. 718-704-4651 >>>roddj12 at hotmail.com >>>"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >>>Houston >>> >>>-------------------------------------------------- >>>From: "Nightingale, Noel" >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM >>>To: ; ; >>>Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>________________________________ >>>>From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >>>>Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >>>>To: Nightingale, Noel >>>>Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>>>Importance: High >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >>>>Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >>>>To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >>>>Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>>>Importance: High >>>> >>>>________________________________ >>>>From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >>>>Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >>>>Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>>>Importance: High >>>>Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >>>>Subject: Requested Assistance >>>>I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >>>>Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >>>>position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >>>>36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >>>>ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >>>>Description for the ECRB Manager position. >>>> >>>>Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >>>>Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >>>>Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >>>>hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >>>>position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a >>> >>>>work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I >>>>am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and >>>>transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >>>> >>>>Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >>>>candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >>>>contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >>>>commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >>>>networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the >>> >>>>ECRB Manager position. >>>> >>>>Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >>>>Diversity Programs Administrator >>>>Office of Equal Opportunity >>>>Washington State Department of Transportation >>>>Office: (360) 705-7096 >>>>BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >>>>Fax: (360) 705-6801 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>blindlaw mailing list >>>>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>blindlaw: >>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. >>>com >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>blindlaw mailing list >>>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>blindlaw: >>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n >>>et >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 >>>06:50:00 >>> >>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 >>>06:50:00 >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>blindlaw mailing list >>>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>blindlaw: >>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brandon.mcginty%40gmail.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>for blindlaw: >>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >for blindlaw: >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/womankind%40earthlink.net From rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 10 03:26:22 2009 From: rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net ( Rob Tabor) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:26:22 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! References: Message-ID: <4776CC820D8A4C00B2F8C7FFA6CCAAF5@Rob> Two thumbs up for you, Rod! If you pass both PA and NJ bar exams you not have only earned a beer; you've earned a whole case, so drink up! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their > results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this > process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; ; > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >> To: Nightingale, Noel >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> >> >> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >> Subject: Requested Assistance >> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has >> a work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, >> I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's >> and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >> >> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for >> the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >> Diversity Programs Administrator >> Office of Equal Opportunity >> Washington State Department of Transportation >> Office: (360) 705-7096 >> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >> >> >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rob.tabor%40sbcglobal.net From mike.sandi at comcast.net Sun Oct 11 15:34:50 2009 From: mike.sandi at comcast.net (Mike Groat) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:34:50 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device. It is quite impressive. The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes. Then a voice note is made for that label number. The labels can be reused for recording purposes. For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well. From cdborne at gmail.com Sun Oct 11 16:49:43 2009 From: cdborne at gmail.com (Craig Borne) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:49:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This sounds great. Does anyone have a link to the product for sale? Craig -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Groat Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:35 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device. It is quite impressive. The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes. Then a voice note is made for that label number. The labels can be reused for recording purposes. For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdborne%40gmail.co m From timandvickie at hotmail.com Sun Oct 11 18:06:20 2009 From: timandvickie at hotmail.com (Tim Shaw) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:06:20 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Independent Living has it for $139.00 here is the link: http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=756610 > From: cdborne at gmail.com > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:49:43 -0400 > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device > > This sounds great. Does anyone have a link to the product for sale? > Craig > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Groat > Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:35 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device > > I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device. It > is quite impressive. The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes. > Then a voice note is made for that label number. The labels can be reused > for recording purposes. > > For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdborne%40gmail.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/timandvickie%40hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From cdborne at gmail.com Sun Oct 11 18:32:12 2009 From: cdborne at gmail.com (cdborne at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1486326016-1255285931-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1304185756-@bda883.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Thank you craig Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Tim Shaw Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:06:20 To: Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device Independent Living has it for $139.00 here is the link: http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=756610 > From: cdborne at gmail.com > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:49:43 -0400 > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device > > This sounds great. Does anyone have a link to the product for sale? > Craig > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Groat > Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:35 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device > > I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device. It > is quite impressive. The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes. > Then a voice note is made for that label number. The labels can be reused > for recording purposes. > > For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdborne%40gmail.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/timandvickie%40hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdborne%40gmail.com From jsorozco at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 22:21:31 2009 From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:21:31 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: EXCEL! - FYI Message-ID: >From Olivia Claverie > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > Date: September 24, 2009 > FOR INFORMATION CONTACT: > DBTAC National Network of ADA Centers 1-800-949-4232 > PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS > The public has been given 60 days to comment on proposed revisions to > regulations implementing the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 ( > ADA), as amended by the ADA Amendments Act of 2008. The regulatory > changes, contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking just announced > by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), focuses on providing individuals seeking protection against employment discrimination under Title I of the ADA with a more expansive definition of "disability. " Written comments must be submitted on or before November 23, 2009. > The ADA is an antidiscrimination statute passed by Congress and signed > into law by the President in July 1990. The EEOC is responsible for > enforcing Title I of the ADA , which prohibits employment discrimination against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires employers to make reasonable accommodations to employees and job applicants with disabilities. > "We encourage the public to submit comments directly to the EEOC." > "People with disabilities will be the winners when the new regulations are fully implemented and extensive public comment will ensure they are the best that they can be." > The ADA Amendments Act, which went into effect Jan. 1, 2009, and the > regulatory revisions embedded in the proposed rule now available for > public comment, makes it easier for an individual alleging employment > discrimination based on disability to establish that he or she meets > the ADA's definitions of "disability. " The ADA Amendments Act also > modifies the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibits employment discrimination in the federal workforce on the basis of disability. > The regulatory changes in the proposed rule emphasize that the > definition of disability-an impairment that poses a substantial > limitation in a major life activity-must be construed in favor of broad coverage of individuals to the maximum extent permitted by the terms of the ADA, and should not require extensive analysis. > The regulatory changes expand major life activities to include "major > bodily functions, and clarify that mitigating measures, such as medications and devices that people use to reduce or eliminate the effects of impairment, are not to be considered when determining whether a person has a disability. They also clarify that impairments that are episodic or in remission, such as epilepsy, cancer, and many kinds of psychiatric impairments, are disabilities if they would "substantially limit" major life activities when active. > Finally, the regulation revisions provide a more straightforward way > of demonstrating a substantial limitation in the major life activity > of working, and implements the ADA Amendment Act's new standard for > determining whether someone is regarded as having a disability. > The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking containing the regulatory changes is > posted on the EEOC website, > http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html > > along with a question-and-answer guide about the proposal and instructions for submitting public comments to the Commission. You Can Submit Comments by Mail, Fax and Electronically, Here's How: > Written comments should be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive > Officer, Executive Secretariat, Equal Employment Opportunity > Commission, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC 20507. > Comments submitted by fax. As a convenience to commenters, the > Executive Secretariat will accept comments transmitted by facsimile > (``FAX'') machine. The telephone number of the FAX receiver is (202) > 663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or > fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal to ensure access to > the equipment. Receipt of FAX transmittals will not be acknowledged, > except that the sender may request confirmation of receipt by calling > the Executive Secretariat staff at (202)663-4070 (voice) or (202) > 663-4074 (TTY). (These are not toll-free telephone numbers.) > Comments submitted electronically You may also submit comments and > attachments electronically at http://www.regulations.gov > , which is the Federal eRulemaking Portal. > Follow the instructions online for submitting comments. Copies of > comments submitted by the public will be available for review at the > Commission's library, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R , Washington, DC > 20507 , between the hours of 9:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. or can be reviewed > at http://www.regulations.gov __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4504 (20091013) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4504 (20091013) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Oct 14 21:27:10 2009 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:27:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: EXCEL! - FYI References: Message-ID: <33E19519A81441C0961EDFA34D9038B5@none8a46117901> Regarding the EEOC proposed regulations - I went to the web inks and read through the notice of proposed rulemaking and read through the questions and answers section. Has anyone actually been able to get to the proposed regulations themselves through that web site for the EEOC? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Orozco" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: [blindlaw] FW: EXCEL! - FYI > >From Olivia Claverie > >> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE >> Date: September 24, 2009 > >> FOR INFORMATION CONTACT: >> DBTAC National Network of ADA Centers 1-800-949-4232 > >> PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS > >> The public has been given 60 days to comment on proposed revisions to >> regulations implementing the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 ( >> ADA), as amended by the ADA Amendments Act of 2008. The regulatory >> changes, contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking just announced >> by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), focuses on > providing individuals seeking protection against employment discrimination > under Title I of the ADA with a more expansive definition of "disability. > " > Written comments must be submitted on or before November 23, 2009. > >> The ADA is an antidiscrimination statute passed by Congress and signed >> into law by the President in July 1990. The EEOC is responsible for >> enforcing Title I of the ADA , which prohibits employment discrimination > against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires employers to make > reasonable accommodations to employees and job applicants with > disabilities. > >> "We encourage the public to submit comments directly to the EEOC." >> "People with disabilities will be the winners when the new regulations >> are > fully implemented and extensive public comment will ensure they are the > best > that they can be." > >> The ADA Amendments Act, which went into effect Jan. 1, 2009, and the >> regulatory revisions embedded in the proposed rule now available for >> public comment, makes it easier for an individual alleging employment >> discrimination based on disability to establish that he or she meets >> the ADA's definitions of "disability. " The ADA Amendments Act also >> modifies the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibits employment > discrimination in the federal workforce on the basis of disability. > >> The regulatory changes in the proposed rule emphasize that the >> definition of disability-an impairment that poses a substantial >> limitation in a major life activity-must be construed in favor of broad > coverage of individuals to the maximum extent permitted by the terms of > the > ADA, and should not require extensive analysis. > >> The regulatory changes expand major life activities to include "major >> bodily functions, and clarify that mitigating measures, such as > medications and devices that people use to reduce or eliminate the effects > of impairment, are not to be considered when determining whether a person > has a disability. They also clarify that impairments that are episodic or > in > remission, such as epilepsy, cancer, and many kinds of psychiatric > impairments, are disabilities if they would "substantially limit" major > life > activities when active. > >> Finally, the regulation revisions provide a more straightforward way >> of demonstrating a substantial limitation in the major life activity >> of working, and implements the ADA Amendment Act's new standard for >> determining whether someone is regarded as having a disability. > >> The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking containing the regulatory changes is >> posted on the EEOC website, >> http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html >> >> along with a question-and-answer guide about the proposal and >> instructions > for submitting public comments to the Commission. > > You Can Submit Comments by Mail, Fax and Electronically, Here's How: >> Written comments should be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive >> Officer, Executive Secretariat, Equal Employment Opportunity >> Commission, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC > 20507. > >> Comments submitted by fax. As a convenience to commenters, the >> Executive Secretariat will accept comments transmitted by facsimile >> (``FAX'') machine. The telephone number of the FAX receiver is (202) >> 663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or >> fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal to ensure access to >> the equipment. Receipt of FAX transmittals will not be acknowledged, >> except that the sender may request confirmation of receipt by calling >> the Executive Secretariat staff at (202)663-4070 (voice) or (202) >> 663-4074 (TTY). (These are not toll-free telephone numbers.) > >> Comments submitted electronically You may also submit comments and >> attachments electronically at http://www.regulations.gov >> , which is the Federal eRulemaking Portal. >> Follow the instructions online for submitting comments. Copies of >> comments submitted by the public will be available for review at the >> Commission's library, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R , Washington, DC >> 20507 , between the hours of 9:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. or can be reviewed >> at > http://www.regulations.gov > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4504 (20091013) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4504 (20091013) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.15/2434 - Release Date: 10/13/09 19:11:00 From angie.matney at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 01:55:02 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:55:02 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Message-ID: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 16 02:07:58 2009 From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:07:58 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <90AB02BC-C9D1-41DC-B24B-CA3180678F20@sbcglobal.net> Hey, congrats. Was that you I saw whooping it up on Twitter? :) Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 02:22:03 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:22:03 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <008201ca4e07$73f87200$5be95600$@com> Congratulations to everyone who is passing the bar! You are awesome!!! William -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:55 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From CDanielsen at nfb.org Fri Oct 16 02:43:39 2009 From: CDanielsen at nfb.org (Danielsen, Chris) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:43:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Presidential Proclamation for White Cane Safety Day Message-ID: Dear Fellow Federationists: Below is the text of this year’s White Cane Safety Day proclamation issued by President Obama. As you will read, the proclamation highlights the importance of Braille literacy. It is clear that our advocacy on this issue is having an impact on policy makers at the highest levels of our government. We continue to accomplish great things for blind Americans. Happy White Cane Safety Day! Sincerely: Chris Danielsen etc. White Cane Safety Day, 2009 By the President of the United States of America A Proclamation All Americans deserve the freedom to participate in every aspect of our society and pursue their full measure of happiness. For blind Americans, the white cane is a potent symbol of that freedom­affording them greater independence and mobility. Today, we renew our commitment to provide full inclusion and equal opportunities for those among us who are blind or have low vision. As Americans, we must nurture a society that values the unique abilities and individual contributions of all its people. Individuals who are blind or have low vision are less constrained and better integrated in our country than ever before, but much work remains to ensure they have the opportunity to reach their full potential. My Administration is committed to securing full and equal access to education and employment for blind Americans and all those with disabilities. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act substantially increased funding for the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, as well as vocational rehabilitation services, including job training, education, and placement. For Americans who are blind or have low vision, a white cane is just one of a wide range of tools that sustain independence and productivity. In recent years, refreshable Braille displays and speech synthesis devices have given these individuals access to the Internet, unlocking a new frontier of limitless possibility. As we encourage the development of new assistive technologies, we must also improve access to existing tools. The Braille code has opened a doorway to literacy for countless individuals, but far too many blind children in our country are not learning to read it. By improving Braille literacy, we will secure a brighter future for these young Americans. In the 45 years since White Cane Safety Day was first proclaimed by President Lyndon Johnson, Americans who are blind or have low vision have achieved substantial progress. As leaders in government and business, academics, and the arts, they have made remarkable contributions to our Nation, proving that sight is no requisite for success. We will continue to strive for a more just and equitable Nation that celebrates diversity in all its forms and promotes the full inclusion of all individuals in our communities. By joint resolution approved on October 6, 1964, (Public Law 88-628, as amended), the Congress designated October 15 of each year as White Cane Safety Day to recognize the contributions of Americans who are blind or have low vision. NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim October 15, 2009, as White Cane Safety Day. I call upon all Americans to observe this day with appropriate ceremonies, activities, and programs. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this fifteenth day of October, in the year of our Lord two thousand nine, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-fourth. From langlois2 at verizon.net Fri Oct 16 02:47:39 2009 From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:47:39 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <9A5F71976DE04BD4A7EDF56FFBBF17D2@barney03> Congrats to you! I hope you ace the next exam as well! Brian Langlois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Matney" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > Hello Everyone, > > > > I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar > Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on > November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. > > > > Angie > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/langlois2%40verizon.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.19/2438 - Release Date: 10/15/09 12:02:00 From angie.matney at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 04:18:42 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:18:42 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <90AB02BC-C9D1-41DC-B24B-CA3180678F20@sbcglobal.net> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> <90AB02BC-C9D1-41DC-B24B-CA3180678F20@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4ad7f42a.86c3f10a.1965.0556@mx.google.com> Yeah, I think that was me. :) I'm @arm4r on twitter. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:08 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hey, congrats. Was that you I saw whooping it up on Twitter? :) Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma il.com From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 04:36:20 2009 From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:36:20 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <017201ca4e1a$360342a0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62> Angie Congratulations!! That is great news. I wish you all the best. Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Matney" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > Hello Everyone, > > > > I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar > Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on > November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. > > > > Angie > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/craigspencer2.0%40gmail.com From bspiry at comcast.net Fri Oct 16 06:05:23 2009 From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:05:23 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <6F8EEA1977D543A8B6853DF4DCDE6FD6@Freddy> Congratulations Angie! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:55 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n et No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.18/2437 - Release Date: 10/15/09 03:57:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.18/2437 - Release Date: 10/15/09 03:57:00 From joramsey at cox.net Fri Oct 16 09:04:24 2009 From: joramsey at cox.net (John Ramsey) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:04:24 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <0B0FFA360DAC47CC9FC29852692ED3BC@noneeb869fea9a> Hi Angie, Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with VOPA. Take care, John John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq. Gainesville, FL 32609 (352) 505-6642 This communication contains information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you have received this communication in error, please call us at (352) 505-6642 and destroy any associated printed materials and delete the electronic material from any computer. Please be aware that any unauthorized disclosure, use or publication of this communication or the information it contains may result in criminal and/or civil liability. Due to this message being transmitted over the Internet, John Ramsey cannot assure that the messages are secure. If you are uncomfortable with such risks, you may decide not to use email to communicate with John Ramsey. Please contact us immediately at (352) 505-6642 if you decide not to use email. You must also be aware that email messages may be delayed or undelivered through circumstances beyond our control. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joramsey%40cox.net From angie.matney at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 11:09:03 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:09:03 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <0B0FFA360DAC47CC9FC29852692ED3BC@noneeb869fea9a> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> <0B0FFA360DAC47CC9FC29852692ED3BC@noneeb869fea9a> Message-ID: <4ad8544e.1ac1f10a.79a2.61a6@mx.google.com> Hi John, Yes, those were the days. (grin) Best, Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John Ramsey Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:04 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hi Angie, Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with VOPA. Take care, John John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq. Gainesville, FL 32609 (352) 505-6642 This communication contains information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you have received this communication in error, please call us at (352) 505-6642 and destroy any associated printed materials and delete the electronic material from any computer. Please be aware that any unauthorized disclosure, use or publication of this communication or the information it contains may result in criminal and/or civil liability. Due to this message being transmitted over the Internet, John Ramsey cannot assure that the messages are secure. If you are uncomfortable with such risks, you may decide not to use email to communicate with John Ramsey. Please contact us immediately at (352) 505-6642 if you decide not to use email. You must also be aware that email messages may be delayed or undelivered through circumstances beyond our control. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joramsey%40cox.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma il.com From AZNOR99 at aol.com Fri Oct 16 12:21:02 2009 From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:21:02 EDT Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Message-ID: Congratulations to everyone who has passed the Bar Exam this year. Welcome to the Legal Profession! Ronza In a message dated 10/16/2009 7:52:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, angie.matney at gmail.com writes: Hi John, Yes, those were the days. (grin) Best, Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John Ramsey Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:04 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hi Angie, Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with VOPA. Take care, John John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq. Gainesville, FL 32609 (352) 505-6642 This communication contains information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you have received this communication in error, please call us at (352) 505-6642 and destroy any associated printed materials and delete the electronic material from any computer. Please be aware that any unauthorized disclosure, use or publication of this communication or the information it contains may result in criminal and/or civil liability. Due to this message being transmitted over the Internet, John Ramsey cannot assure that the messages are secure. If you are uncomfortable with such risks, you may decide not to use email to communicate with John Ramsey. Please contact us immediately at (352) 505-6642 if you decide not to use email. You must also be aware that email messages may be delayed or undelivered through circumstances beyond our control. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joramsey%40cox.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma il.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com From shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com Fri Oct 16 14:36:47 2009 From: shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com (Kate Thegreat) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:36:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] question about social security income Message-ID: I'm helping a friend sell her store inventory online as she is out of business. I am making 15% on whatever I sell. So far I haven't made much because so far the only thing I've sold is a few books. Does anyone, from a legal standpoint, know what I'd have to do in order to prove to the SSA that I'm not actually making the full amount that is coming into my bank account in this kind of situation. You see, when the book sells, I collect a paypal payment and then take 15% out and give the rest to my friend. She is no longer in business, she went bankrupt, so she can't even claim to be any particular business owner. So how will the SSA know what's actually going on. I'm sure they won't just take my word for it nor my friend's word. If anyone has any insights to offer, please let me know. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com Fri Oct 16 14:38:12 2009 From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <665642.34115.qm@web112414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Congratulations, Angie!   I'm happy for you.   The MPRE is a piece of cake. You'll ace it.   Mike --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Angie Matney wrote: From: Angie Matney Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 9:55 PM Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/m_b_gilmore%40yahoo.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri Oct 16 16:00:27 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:00:27 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! References: Message-ID: <6FE851C9337C4DEC8B99383137BA6EE0@labarre> Here, here! Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > Congratulations to everyone who has passed the Bar Exam this year. Welcome > to the Legal Profession! > > Ronza > > > > In a message dated 10/16/2009 7:52:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > angie.matney at gmail.com writes: > > Hi John, > > Yes, those were the days. (grin) > > Best, > > Angie > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of John Ramsey > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:04 AM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > > Hi Angie, > Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with VOPA. > Take care, > John > > John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq. > > Gainesville, FL 32609 > > (352) 505-6642 > > > > This communication contains information that may be confidential and/or > legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual or > entity to which it is addressed. If you have received this communication > in > error, please call us at (352) 505-6642 and destroy any associated > printed > materials and delete the electronic material from any computer. Please be > aware that any unauthorized disclosure, use or publication of this > communication or the information it contains may result in criminal > and/or > civil liability. Due to this message being transmitted over the Internet, > John Ramsey cannot assure that the messages are secure. If you are > uncomfortable with such risks, you may decide not to use email to > communicate with John Ramsey. Please contact us immediately at (352) > 505-6642 if you decide not to use email. You must also be aware that > email > messages may be delayed or undelivered through circumstances beyond our > control. Thank you. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Angie Matney > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar > Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on > November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. > > > > Angie > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joramsey%40cox.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/slabarre%40labarrelaw.com > From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Fri Oct 16 19:47:05 2009 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:47:05 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and other resources Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D674B@EVS02.central.pima.gov> I have been trying, without success, to find some information about the availability of Arizona statute books and similar reference materials in an audio format. I use a Smartview desktop reader and WinZoom computer software in the office, and have portable reader to use in court, but having a backup audio source, preferably Mp3 (although I also have a 4-track machine) would be so much help. The only response I get from West Publishing is to offer a Braille text, which I am not yet literate enough to use, and large print texts, which are far to bulky to be hauling back and forth to hearings. (I should have followed up on the instinct to learn Braille in grade school, but glasses were enough back then.) Does anyone know if audio formats for such things are available, and where I should check to obtain them? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5675 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 16 20:30:38 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:30:38 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] question about social security income In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E44078539D44C64AC1DDAC7828394E9@spike> There are different standards that apply based on whether you are receiving SSI or Social Security disability benefits. If you are receiving Social Security disability benefits you most likely will not be making enough money to where it won't become an issue. There are potentially ways to get around this if you are receiving SSI however. If needed you can contact me off list to discuss further. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Thegreat" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:36 AM Subject: [blindlaw] question about social security income > > I'm helping a friend sell her store inventory online as she is out of > business. I am making 15% on whatever I sell. So far I haven't made much > because so far the only thing I've sold is a few books. Does anyone, from > a legal standpoint, know what I'd have to do in order to prove to the SSA > that I'm not actually making the full amount that is coming into my bank > account in this kind of situation. You see, when the book sells, I collect > a paypal payment and then take 15% out and give the rest to my friend. She > is no longer in business, she went bankrupt, so she can't even claim to be > any particular business owner. So how will the SSA know what's actually > going on. I'm sure they won't just take my word for it nor my friend's > word. If anyone has any insights to offer, please let me know. Thanks. > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From darlene.olsen at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 23:34:14 2009 From: darlene.olsen at gmail.com (Darlene Olsen) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:34:14 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: CONGRATULATIONS !!! We are all thrilled for you. I am elated that you passed that exam. Darlene Olsen Napa, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Matney" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > Hello Everyone, > > > > I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar > Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on > November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. > > > > Angie > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/darlene.olsen%40gmail.com From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Sat Oct 17 01:12:29 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:12:29 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5DC7FA1BC0B1405B9EDF119578654F69@StevePC> congradulations!!! I didn't pass the Bar because I didn't take the bar!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darlene Olsen" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > CONGRATULATIONS !!! We are all thrilled for you. I am elated that you > passed that exam. > Darlene Olsen > Napa, California > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Angie Matney" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:55 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar >> Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on >> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. >> >> >> >> Angie >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/darlene.olsen%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.422 / Virus Database: 270.14.20/2440 - Release Date: 10/16/09 06:32:00 From cdanielsen8 at aol.com Sat Oct 17 10:28:44 2009 From: cdanielsen8 at aol.com (Chris Danielsen) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 06:28:44 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <947C056DFB4241C5827B25EE064E23E5@Scorpio13> Congratulations! I hope your legal career is a fulfilling one. Chris -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdanielsen8%40aol. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4517 (20091017) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4517 (20091017) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Sun Oct 18 02:36:28 2009 From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:36:28 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20091018023628.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> Congratulations, Angie. Ray Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Matney" To: "'Ationfbnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Date: Friday, Oct 16, 2009 0:29:36 Subject: [bllaw] I passed the VA Bar! > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar > Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on > November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. > > > > Angie > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for bllaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com From blindchildren at verizon.net Sun Oct 18 23:36:33 2009 From: blindchildren at verizon.net (Carol Castellano) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:36:33 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Attention Disability Colleagues!! FTA Civil Rights Training, Washington, DC - December 2-4, 2009. Disability Organizations are strongly encouraged to register only for day 1 - ADA Day. Message-ID: Dave, I received this notice from a disability organization in VA. Would you please forward to any lists that you think might be interested. Thanks, Carol Carol Castellano, President National Organization of Parents of Blind Children 973-377-0976 carol_castellano at verizon.net www.nfb.org/nopbc Subject: Attention Disability Colleagues!! FTA Civil Rights Training, > Washington, DC - December 2-4, 2009. Disability Organizations are strongly > encouraged to register only for day 1 - ADA Day. >Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:25:26 -0400 >From: "Konoka Izumi" >To: "Konoka Izumi" > >[] > Federal Transit Administration >Office of Civil Rights > > >Civil Rights Training >December 2 - 4, 2009 >Washington, DC > >[] > >[] > > >The Federal Transit Administration’s Office of >Civil Rights invites its grant recipients and >other interested stakeholders in all FTA Regions >to attend a three-day training on FTA’s civil >rights requirements and guidance. The training >will review federal laws, regulations, executive >orders, and guidance covering the Americans with >Disabilities Act, Title VI of the Civil Rights >Act of 1964, and the U.S. Department of >Transportation’s Disadvantaged Business >Enterprise (DBE) Program. This training will >also discuss recently implemented and proposed >updates to existing FTA civil rights directives and guidelines. > >This training will help practitioners better >understand the importance of civil rights >considerations in transportation and transit >planning, project development, investment, and >operations. Participants will be able to apply >the content learned during this course to their >daily work activities and local environment. > >Participants will also have the opportunity to >provide the FTA with feedback on challenges and >opportunities that they have experienced in >implementing Federal civil rights directives and >to share examples of effective or promising >practices that could be adopted by state, >regional, and local agencies or community-based organizations. > >Scholarships for travel expenses are available! > >This training will be held at the Westin >Arlington Gateway located at 801 North Glebe >Road, Arlington, VA 22203. Hotel rooms are >available on a first-come first-serve basis. To >reserve a room at the group discount rate of >$207/night, call 1-888-627-7076 or 703-717-6200 >and mention the FTA Workshop. The room >registration cut-off date is November 13, 2009. >Reservation Deadline: Workshop reservations must >be made by November 13, 2009 while all >scholarship requests must be made by November 6, 2009. > >FTA Civil Rights Training >Preliminary Agenda > > >Wednesday ­ December 2, 2009 > >Morning Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA) > Overview and Updates >Afternoon ADA Fixed Route Self Assessment > Complementary Paratransit Self-Assessment > ADA Trivia! > >Thursday ­ December 3, 2009 > >Morning Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 Overview > Overview of New Title VI Circular > Title VI Video “Divided Highways” >Afternoon Environmental Justice > Exercise: City of Metropolis > DOJ Video “Language Barriers” > Limited English Proficiency (LEP) > >Friday ­ December 4, 2009 > >Morning Disadvantaged Business Enterprise Program (DBE) Overview > DBE Goal Methodology >Afternoon DBE Fraud > DBE Certification > >Layo Osiyemi >Endependence Center of Northern Virginia, Inc. (ECNV) >2300 Clarendon Blvd. Suite 305 >Arlington, VA 22201 >(703) 525-3268 Ext 8005 (V) >(703) 525-3553 (TTY) >(703) 525-3585 (Fax) >www.ecnv.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 163bc8a.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 19143 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 163bcc9.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 38049 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 163bd17.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 35491 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DC Flyer and Preliminary Agenda1.doc Type: application/msword Size: 70144 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:47 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and otherresources > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net > From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 19 19:56:52 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:56:52 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ADA town hall in Oakland Ca Message-ID: <1D5F097F53FA48328CCCAE5635AB52B8@spike> Subject: Mon, Oct 26: ADA AA Town Hall in Oakland, CA The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) Civil Rights Division announce a full-day Town Hall Listening Session Monday, October 26, 2009 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. California Endowment 1111 Broadway, 7th floor Oakland, CA 94607 This is the first of a series of forums for public input being held throughout the country in coming weeks to obtain direct input from the business/employer communities as well as the disability and disability advocacy community on EEOC's proposed regulations under the ADA Amendments Act of 2008 (ADAAA). Presided over by EEOC's Acting Chair, Stuart J. Ishimaru, Acting Vice Chair, Christine Griffin, and Commissioner Constance S. Barker, as well as DOJ's Deputy Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, Samuel Bagenstos, Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, Mazen Baswari, and Chief of the Disability Rights Section of the Civil Rights Division, John Wodatch, the Town Hall Listening Session is an opportunity for these officials to hear directly from stakeholders of all perspectives on the proposed regulations. Five-minute time slots to address the panel will be available from 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Some of the slots will be available on an advance registration basis and some on first-come, first-served sign up basis at the event. Members of the public are also invited to attend and view the proceedings, with space available on a first-come, first-served basis. As a reasonable accommodation, there will be limited availability to provide public input by telephone. To request this accommodation you must register in advance. Individuals representing themselves or organizations are urged to take advantage of this opportunity to provide input on the EEOC's Notice of Proposed Rulemaking which can be viewed, along with a question-and- answer guide, at www.eeoc.gov For more information, or to register as a speaker, please contact Linda Li at 415-625-5618 (TTY 415-625-5610) Linda.Li at ... Sign Language Interpreters, CART, and assistive listening devices will please email Elisa.gonzalez. ctr at ... Please let her know what you need and the location (city) of the event you will be attending. Both EEOC and DOJ want to encourage all individuals and organizations who cannot attend this event to make sure you submit comments and attachments electronically at http://www.regulati ons.gov, the Federal eRulemaking Portal. The ID # is 3046-AA85. Written comments may also be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive Secretariat, EEOC, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC 20507. Comments may be transmitted by facsimile ("FAX'') machine by dialing (202) 663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal. Comments must be submitted on or before November 23, 2009. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _ Please forward as appropriate - we are truly seeking comment from the public, from business and employers as well as the disability and disability advocacy community. Thank you. From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Mon Oct 19 21:11:38 2009 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:11:38 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and other resources In-Reply-To: References: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D674B@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D6766@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Thanks - I'll give it another shot, although I'm finding that at least in the Arizona materials, our profession is having a bit of difficulty (to be nice) measuring up to the goal of accessibility for all. Keeping my fingers crossed, though. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Sent: Monday, 19 October, 2009 12:15 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and otherresources Probably the best solution would be to use Westlaw on line to get this materials. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:47 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and otherresources > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbc global.net > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40 pima.gov From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Tue Oct 20 18:13:45 2009 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:13:45 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <3AC7FBA20AEF455C877D40568FBC0E87@valtd> Angie, hearty congratulations! God bless you as you begin carving a niche in the legal profession. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Oct 20 20:08:33 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:08:33 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Managing Your Word Documents, ABA September/October 2009 Message-ID: This article relates to discussions that have occurred on this list about document management programs. It may give some idea for other programs to try out for accessibility. Link: http://new.abanet.org/publishing/bookbriefsblog/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=95 Text: 10/13/2009 Managing Your Word Documents By Ben M. Schorr Excerpted from The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Word 2007 Microsoft produced Office 2007 with a strong emphasis on collaboration, and this plays nicely into how lawyers tend to use their tools. Having partners, associates, co-counsel, clients, witnesses, and paralegals work on a document means that it has many authors and editors. Effectively working together to produce a professional finished document is key to running a great law practice. Third-Party Document Management Systems I have to admit that I sort of resent third-party document-management systems. They're an expensive crutch whose sole reason for existence is simple human weakness. With any modern computer, if you use an intelligent file-naming convention in a disciplined fashion and a good file-searching system-Copernic Desktop and Windows Desktop Search (WDS) are two such options that are also free-then you really don't need a third-party document-management system. Document management exists to help you and your colleagues intelligently save, store, and find documents. You can accomplish the same thing by establishing a policy that says, "All memos will be saved to the client's folder, under the matter subfolder, with a file name in the format of 'Memo to [X] regarding [Y],'" and then adhering religiously to that policy. Everybody would be able to find a document they were looking for and the search tool (like WDS) would help cover those scenarios where simple good file names and directory structures don't fit the bill. Unfortunately, in the real world, people are rushed and corners get cut. Pretty soon the root folder of the structure starts to fill up with files named "Memo1," "Memo2," "Jonesmemo," and so forth as people cut the handful of steps required to save the file properly and just save it as quickly as they can, with whatever name they can bang out fast, and move on. Then you have the filing equivalent of kindergarten, and nobody can remember which cubby they put their shoes in. Document-management systems solve this problem by automating some of the process (extracting keywords from the document itself, and inserting the author and editor IDs) and by forcing other parts of it-requiring the user to type in a client/matter number, for example. They also generally include a search engine that can be used to search the document profiles as well as the document itself. In addition to the purpose-built document-management tools, many case-management suites like ProLaw or Client Profiles are capable of some document management as well. If you already have a full-featured case-management suite in place, you might want to see if it can address your document-management needs before you invest in a separate document-management tool. DocsOpen by Open Text (formerly "Hummingbird") The venerable DocsOpen system is one that just about any lawyer who has been around a decade or two has probably run across in at least one firm. It was, for a time, the most popular system among the AmLaw 100, and if it has fallen from that perch it has only been due to cost, competition, and perhaps some disillusionment among firms with the product-which, to be honest, is probably inevitable with a product as complicated and ubiquitous as a document-management system is. More information is available at http://www.opentext.com/2/global/sol-products/sol-pro-edocs-products2/pro-llecm-docsopen.htm. Interwoven WorkSite (formerly known as iManage) Probably the other leading vendor in the AmLaw 100 for document and content management is Interwoven. Their WorkSite is extremely modular and can be customized for a particular firm. More information is available at http://www.interwoven.com. Worldox Worldox has been around since the late 1980s and is widely used in small- to mid-sized firms. Unlike its competitors, Worldox has always been Worldox and hasn't evolved through acquisition and change of ownership. It started out as a reasonably priced solution for smaller firms and has grown a bit from there. It's still pretty reasonably priced for what you get. More information is available at http://www.worldox.com. Created By: Kurt Harzke | Category: Legal Technology | Permalink From roddj12 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 20 22:14:01 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:14:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this task to an assistant? I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Tue Oct 20 22:12:17 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:12:17 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com> You could always have your assistant place a "sign here" sticker on the document where you need to sign and use a signature guide to do this. I hope this is what you were asking. Will -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this task to an assistant? I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 20 22:34:05 2009 From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:34:05 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys References: Message-ID: <000901ca51d5$6f0d0a90$280110ac@HP8730notebook> hi, 1 sign your name several times, choose the best one, scan it so you can slap it where you need it. 2 use the ms word bradley hand itc font and 18 point and it will look like your signature. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing > parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this > task to an assistant? > > I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? > > I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net From AZNOR99 at aol.com Tue Oct 20 22:42:01 2009 From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:42:01 EDT Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys Message-ID: I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB Independence Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several hours a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their assistants. I had mine made at Office Max. Hope that answers your question. Ronza In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this task to an assistant? I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com From pattichang at att.net Tue Oct 20 23:07:09 2009 From: pattichang at att.net (Patti Gregory-Chang) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:07:09 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys References: <035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com> Message-ID: <6C590520A6574E5195E35928D90F73DF@D3J75Z91> My favorite method is a post it note. You can stick it on the paper right below where you have to sign and it doesn't even require that someone be here. Also, it doesn't slip or slide. I used to have to do 20 or so releases a day and it worked well. P.S. National Federation of the Blind of Illinois is now on twitter at www.twitter.com/nfbi. We also have a facebook page. Just search for our full name. Patti Gregory-Chang President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois pattichang at att.net www.nfbofillinois.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "WB" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > You could always have your assistant place a "sign here" sticker on the > document where you need to sign and use a signature guide to do this. > > I hope this is what you were asking. > > Will > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing > parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this > task to an assistant? > > I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? > > I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net From roddj12 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 20 23:21:33 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:21:33 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: <035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com> References: <035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com> Message-ID: Thanks, Will. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "WB" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:12 PM To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > You could always have your assistant place a "sign here" sticker on the > document where you need to sign and use a signature guide to do this. > > I hope this is what you were asking. > > Will > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing > parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this > task to an assistant? > > I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? > > I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From jsorozco at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 00:07:05 2009 From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:07:05 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Pac Mate Omni for Sale Message-ID: <30B6CFD886164672A222D9EB19835DA1@Rufus> I hope this is not completely off-list, but if there are any attorneys in search of a notetaker, read below: Subject: Pac Mate Omni for Sale I have a Pac Mate Omni BX420 for sale. 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Thomas, Jr.) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:21:42 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am sure that some techie on this list will know how to do this, but there is a way to create a digital signature that you can insert into a document you create. As our profession inches its way into the 21st century with more and more courts allowing electronic filing, some type of digital or imaged signature wil be important to you. Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this task to an assistant? I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo .com From roddj12 at hotmail.com Wed Oct 21 00:30:35 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:30:35 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! Take care Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM To: Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB Independence > Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several > hours > a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of > sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their assistants. > I > had mine made at Office Max. > Hope that answers your question. > > Ronza > > > In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: > > How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, > opposing > > parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this > task to an assistant? > > I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? > > I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 21 00:41:12 2009 From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:41:12 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys References: Message-ID: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook> hi, are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at different places on the pages? if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or laminated guide with a l notch. the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left corner of your stamp. if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps use a hole punch to do the same. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. > > And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing > my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. > > I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a > process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. > > I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! > > Take care > > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >> Independence >> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >> hours >> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >> assistants. I >> had mine made at Office Max. >> Hope that answers your question. >> >> Ronza >> >> >> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >> >> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >> opposing >> >> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this >> task to an assistant? >> >> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >> >> Take care. >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 00:46:16 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:46:16 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03b801ca51e7$e6dae1c0$b490a540$@com> For the digital signature, just have your assistant make three or four squares for you to sign in. They can choose the best signature and scan it into the computer. They can then place the signature where it needs to be in a blank letterhead on your signature block. If they choose the right one, it won't even be pixilated. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:22 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys I am sure that some techie on this list will know how to do this, but there is a way to create a digital signature that you can insert into a document you create. As our profession inches its way into the 21st century with more and more courts allowing electronic filing, some type of digital or imaged signature wil be important to you. Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this task to an assistant? I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo .com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 21 01:00:59 2009 From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:00:59 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys References: <03b801ca51e7$e6dae1c0$b490a540$@com> Message-ID: <003a01ca51e9$f4369c90$280110ac@HP8730notebook> that's what i said. if the person wants to know, you can code it into a macro that can be fired to complete the entire act of signing a letter from sincerely down to esquire. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "WB" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > For the digital signature, just have your assistant make three or four > squares for you to sign in. They can choose the best signature and scan > it > into the computer. They can then place the signature where it needs to be > in a blank letterhead on your signature block. If they choose the right > one, it won't even be pixilated. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:22 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > I am sure that some techie on this list will know how to do this, but > there > is a way to create a digital signature that you can insert into a document > you create. > > As our profession inches its way into the 21st century with more and more > courts allowing electronic filing, some type of digital or imaged > signature > wil be important to you. > > > Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing > parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this > task to an assistant? > > I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? > > I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo > .com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net From dlb723 at comcast.net Wed Oct 21 02:37:01 2009 From: dlb723 at comcast.net (Don Brown) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:37:01 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Judge rules for ACB in Social Security case Message-ID: <2CCF93E3FCB74386924BA27B8BEA52B5@donpc> Judge Alsup's decision in the ACB vs. SSA case came out today (10.20.09): Judge William Alsup of the US District Court, Northern District of California in San Francisco, today issued a judgment in favor of the American Council of the Blind (ACB) and two classes of 3,000,000 individuals with blindness and visual impairments. The suit challenged the Social Security Administration's (SSA) failure to provide its critical benefits communications to recipients in alternative formats that would enable people with visual impairments to have equal access to SSA programs as required by federal disability civil rights laws. This ruling signals a major victory for the disability rights movement, and it sets precedent for the obligations of other federal and state agencies to accommodate people who are blind or have visual impairments. The Social Security Administration (SSA) sends out 390 million notices and forms each year. Plaintiffs won the right to receive communications in a format that is accessible to them, and Judge Alsup ruled that these formats, at a minimum, must include Braille and CD. Here are links to the Judgment http://www.dredf.org/SSA/2009-10-20-Judgment.pdf and Findings of Fact and Conclusions http://www.dredf.org/SSA/2009-10-20-Findings.pdf From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 21 07:25:40 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:25:40 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A77096DBCFD40BF93277D9F409AD3B2@spike> A signature is a signature. Therefore, I sign it and don't worry about it as my typed signature appears on the document. I have had no problems with this during the many years I was a social worker where I frequently had to sign releases and other documents. This also has not been a problem as a paralegal. Additionally, I will have a secretary or clerk act as a witness when a client is signing forms such as a release of information to make sure they have signed it properly. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing > parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this > task to an assistant? > > I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? > > I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From b75205 at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 15:10:57 2009 From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:10:57 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: <4A77096DBCFD40BF93277D9F409AD3B2@spike> References: <4A77096DBCFD40BF93277D9F409AD3B2@spike> Message-ID: Techie here. I design documents where the signature is placed at certain consistent locations on the page and I tell you where it is located by distance, for instance, a half inch above the bottom edge of the page within a margin of a half inch on each side of the page, and I do not place any other content near it so you have room to manuever. But you will not find designers who are doing this type of thing because they rarely care about telling you where things are located. Also they are stuck in the idea that a digital form for the blind must look exactly the same as a paper form even though the current stock of paper forms use fonts that are too small to be scanned. Most government forms use fonts that are tiny and so you cannot use OCR software on them, so where is the "meeting of the minds" for all of you legal experts? How do you record a copy of a document if you cannot scan it and have a copy and why is it that people think it is your responsibility to determine what is on a page that is sent to you. I have noticed that there is a lot of editorial work done on scans to make them intelligible and that responsibility is placed on the receiver of a document when it should be the responsibility to communicate their thoughts from the writer of the document. Forms designers cannot conceive of the idea of a large print form as a minimal concern for the blind, let alone using fonts that can be scanned and used with OCR. Both are tied together because if you cannot scan the document, then how do you have a copy you can access? Digital Signatures in PDF files can have your actual signature as an image and it binds the page and changes the accessibility of the page so you have to be careful of how you set those settings and you are limited in the use to 500 copies of a form due to licensing from Adobe of this technology, so you don't see this used very often in PDF documents. Many government agencies require a written signature and do not allow digital signatures. The Elections Assistance Commission insists on it for voter registration. It would solve a lot of problems if a signature field could be signed electronically so you would not have to know where the signature field was located on the page, you just sign it when the screen reader finds the field. James Pepper From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Oct 21 18:27:50 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:27:50 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook> Message-ID: Blindlaw listers: This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys hi, are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at different places on the pages? if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or laminated guide with a l notch. the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left corner of your stamp. if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps use a hole punch to do the same. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. > > And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing > my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. > > I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a > process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. > > I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! > > Take care > > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >> Independence >> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >> hours >> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >> assistants. I >> had mine made at Office Max. >> Hope that answers your question. >> >> Ronza >> >> >> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >> >> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >> opposing >> >> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this >> task to an assistant? >> >> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >> >> Take care. >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 19:09:17 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:09:17 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook> Message-ID: <049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There are some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. In Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, we are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic signature and a physical one does not need to be there. So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in. I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters that do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for advertisement letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys Blindlaw listers: This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys hi, are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at different places on the pages? if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or laminated guide with a l notch. the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left corner of your stamp. if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps use a hole punch to do the same. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. > > And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing > my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. > > I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a > process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. > > I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! > > Take care > > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >> Independence >> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >> hours >> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >> assistants. I >> had mine made at Office Max. >> Hope that answers your question. >> >> Ronza >> >> >> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >> >> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >> opposing >> >> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this >> task to an assistant? >> >> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >> >> Take care. >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob al.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 0ed.gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From parnell at sccoast.net Wed Oct 21 19:22:14 2009 From: parnell at sccoast.net (Parnell and Kim Diggs) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:22:14 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys References: Message-ID: A signature is typically any mark, applied by hand or otherwise, that the declarant holds out to be a signature. This is why notaries and witnesses come in handy at times. Parnell Diggs President National Federation of the Blind of South Carolina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nightingale, Noel" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > Blindlaw listers: > > This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my > life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. > > Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Schulz > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > hi, > > are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line > at different places on the pages? > if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or > laminated guide with a l notch. > the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the > corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom > left corner of your stamp. > > if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so > perhaps use a hole punch to do the same. > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > >> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >> >> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing >> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >> >> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >> >> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >> >> Take care >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>> Independence >>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>> hours >>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>> assistants. I >>> had mine made at Office Max. >>> Hope that answers your question. >>> >>> Ronza >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>> opposing >>> >>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>> this >>> task to an assistant? >>> >>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/parnell%40sccoast.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.24/2449 - Release Date: 10/20/09 18:42:00 From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Wed Oct 21 19:43:49 2009 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:43:49 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D6789@EVS02.central.pima.gov> One of my co-workers is quadriplegic. It took a major amount of doing, but a rubber stamp was finally approved. Our office had to file a "jurat" with both the superior court and the appellate court to certify that the stamp was her signature. At the same time, however, our judges routinely stamp orders, rather than individually signing them. As with my co-worker's stamp, it is not a replication of the individual's signature, but rather a typeface/print stamp of the name. All in all, I suppose the legality of the stamp may depend on the jurisdiction. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel Sent: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009 11:28 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys Blindlaw listers: This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys hi, are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at different places on the pages? if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or laminated guide with a l notch. the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left corner of your stamp. if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps use a hole punch to do the same. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. > > And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing > my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. > > I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a > process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. > > I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! > > Take care > > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >> Independence >> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >> hours >> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >> assistants. I >> had mine made at Office Max. >> Hope that answers your question. >> >> Ronza >> >> >> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >> >> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >> opposing >> >> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this >> task to an assistant? >> >> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >> >> Take care. >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol. com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotm ail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbc global.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightinga le%40ed.gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40 pima.gov From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Oct 21 20:26:47 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:26:47 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Contact within Lexis who knows about using assistive technology with Lexis Message-ID: Blindlaw listers: The National Association of Blind Lawyers is exploring putting together a continuing legal education seminar for blind lawyers, a part of which would include using Lexis with assistive technology. Does anyone on the list have any contacts within Lexis who know about using Lexis with a screen reader or other assistive technology? If so, please send me an e-mail with the information at: noel.nightingale at ed.gov Thank you. Noel Nightingale From roddj12 at hotmail.com Wed Oct 21 21:22:43 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:22:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: <049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com> References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook> <049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com> Message-ID: There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "WB" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There > are > some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. In > Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, > we > are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic > signature > and a physical one does not need to be there. > > So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in. > > I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters > that > do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for > advertisement > letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > Blindlaw listers: > > This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my > life > as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. > > Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Schulz > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > hi, > > are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line > at > different places on the pages? > if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or > laminated guide with a l notch. > the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the > corner > of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left > corner of your stamp. > > if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > the > left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so > perhaps > use a hole punch to do the same. > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > >> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >> >> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing >> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >> >> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >> >> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >> >> Take care >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>> Independence >>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>> hours >>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>> assistants. I >>> had mine made at Office Max. >>> Hope that answers your question. >>> >>> Ronza >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>> opposing >>> >>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>> this >>> task to an assistant? >>> >>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 > 0ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 21:20:05 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:20:05 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook> <049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com> Message-ID: <051b01ca5294$43b2a8e0$cb17faa0$@com> There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "WB" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There > are > some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. In > Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, > we > are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic > signature > and a physical one does not need to be there. > > So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in. > > I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters > that > do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for > advertisement > letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > Blindlaw listers: > > This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my > life > as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. > > Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Schulz > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > hi, > > are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line > at > different places on the pages? > if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or > laminated guide with a l notch. > the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the > corner > of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left > corner of your stamp. > > if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > the > left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so > perhaps > use a hole punch to do the same. > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > >> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >> >> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing >> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >> >> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >> >> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >> >> Take care >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>> Independence >>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>> hours >>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>> assistants. I >>> had mine made at Office Max. >>> Hope that answers your question. >>> >>> Ronza >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>> opposing >>> >>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>> this >>> task to an assistant? >>> >>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 > 0ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From AZNOR99 at aol.com Thu Oct 22 00:16:55 2009 From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:16:55 EDT Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys Message-ID: By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your signature. Or anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use that too. Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling a signature which does not happen to be your own. I used my stamp for pleadings, discovery, official notification, and even before a notery public. I put the marks made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was always accepted by courts, other attorneys, etc. Ronza In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes: There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "WB" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There > are > some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. In > Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, > we > are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic > signature > and a physical one does not need to be there. > > So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in. > > I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters > that > do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for > advertisement > letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > Blindlaw listers: > > This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my > life > as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. > > Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Schulz > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > hi, > > are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line > at > different places on the pages? > if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or > laminated guide with a l notch. > the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the > corner > of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left > corner of your stamp. > > if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > the > left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so > perhaps > use a hole punch to do the same. > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > >> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >> >> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing >> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >> >> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >> >> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >> >> Take care >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>> Independence >>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>> hours >>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>> assistants. I >>> had mine made at Office Max. >>> Hope that answers your question. >>> >>> Ronza >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>> opposing >>> >>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>> this >>> task to an assistant? >>> >>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 > 0ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com From roddj12 at hotmail.com Thu Oct 22 01:25:46 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:25:46 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am still confused about the stamp, Ronza. Isn't a generic representation of a signature? Or is it a stamp which is generated with a copy of your signature as written by you. I think that's the rout I will take. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 PM To: Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your signature. > Or > anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use that too. > Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling a > signature > which does not happen to be your own. I used my stamp for pleadings, > discovery, official notification, and even before a notery public. I put > the marks > made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was always accepted by > courts, other attorneys, etc. > > Ronza > > > In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes: > > There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. > That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as > sufficient > as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it > is > made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "WB" > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There >> are >> some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. > In >> Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most > cases, >> we >> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic >> signature >> and a physical one does not need to be there. >> >> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are >> in. >> >> I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters >> that >> do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for >> advertisement >> letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> Blindlaw listers: >> >> This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my >> life >> as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. >> >> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM >> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> hi, >> >> are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line >> at >> different places on the pages? >> if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or >> laminated guide with a l notch. >> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the >> corner >> of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left >> corner of your stamp. >> >> if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > >> the >> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so >> perhaps >> use a hole punch to do the same. >> >> Bryan Schulz >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rod Alcidonis" >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> >>> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >>> >>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of >>> signing >>> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >>> >>> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >>> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >>> >>> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >>> >>>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>>> Independence >>>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>>> hours >>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots >>>> of >>>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>>> assistants. I >>>> had mine made at Office Max. >>>> Hope that answers your question. >>>> >>>> Ronza >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>>> >>>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>>> opposing >>>> >>>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>>> this >>>> task to an assistant? >>>> >>>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>>> >>>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>>> C. 718-704-4651 >>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>>> Hamilton >>>> Houston >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. >> com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob >> al.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 >> 0ed.gov >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Thu Oct 22 03:06:03 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:06:03 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05f201ca52c4$98961240$c9c236c0$@com> As someone stated earlier, this depends on the jurisdiction you're in and the firm you work for. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of AZNOR99 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:17 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your signature. Or anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use that too. Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling a signature which does not happen to be your own. I used my stamp for pleadings, discovery, official notification, and even before a notery public. I put the marks made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was always accepted by courts, other attorneys, etc. Ronza In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes: There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "WB" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There > are > some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. In > Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, > we > are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic > signature > and a physical one does not need to be there. > > So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in. > > I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters > that > do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for > advertisement > letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > Blindlaw listers: > > This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my > life > as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. > > Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Schulz > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > hi, > > are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line > at > different places on the pages? > if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or > laminated guide with a l notch. > the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the > corner > of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left > corner of your stamp. > > if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > the > left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so > perhaps > use a hole punch to do the same. > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > >> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >> >> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing >> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >> >> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >> >> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >> >> Take care >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>> Independence >>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>> hours >>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>> assistants. I >>> had mine made at Office Max. >>> Hope that answers your question. >>> >>> Ronza >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>> opposing >>> >>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>> this >>> task to an assistant? >>> >>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 > 0ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From AZNOR99 at aol.com Thu Oct 22 03:22:33 2009 From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:22:33 EDT Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys Message-ID: I suppose you could get both forms. I went to the printer and told them I wanted them to create my signature into a stamp. So they had me sign on an electronic unit - sort of like the point of purchase devices at stores after swiping a credit card. They then used the image of my original signature to create the stamp. In a message dated 10/21/2009 10:58:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: I am still confused about the stamp, Ronza. Isn't a generic representation of a signature? Or is it a stamp which is generated with a copy of your signature as written by you. I think that's the rout I will take. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 PM To: Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your signature. > Or > anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use that too. > Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling a > signature > which does not happen to be your own. I used my stamp for pleadings, > discovery, official notification, and even before a notery public. I put > the marks > made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was always accepted by > courts, other attorneys, etc. > > Ronza > > > In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes: > > There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. > That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as > sufficient > as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it > is > made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "WB" > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There >> are >> some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. > In >> Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most > cases, >> we >> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic >> signature >> and a physical one does not need to be there. >> >> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are >> in. >> >> I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters >> that >> do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for >> advertisement >> letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> Blindlaw listers: >> >> This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my >> life >> as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. >> >> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM >> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> hi, >> >> are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line >> at >> different places on the pages? >> if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or >> laminated guide with a l notch. >> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the >> corner >> of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left >> corner of your stamp. >> >> if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > >> the >> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so >> perhaps >> use a hole punch to do the same. >> >> Bryan Schulz >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rod Alcidonis" >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> >>> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >>> >>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of >>> signing >>> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >>> >>> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >>> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >>> >>> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >>> >>>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>>> Independence >>>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>>> hours >>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots >>>> of >>>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>>> assistants. I >>>> had mine made at Office Max. >>>> Hope that answers your question. >>>> >>>> Ronza >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>>> >>>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>>> opposing >>>> >>>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>>> this >>>> task to an assistant? >>>> >>>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>>> >>>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>>> C. 718-704-4651 >>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>>> Hamilton >>>> Houston >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. >> com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob >> al.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 >> 0ed.gov >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com From cdborne at gmail.com Thu Oct 22 03:53:30 2009 From: cdborne at gmail.com (Craig Borne) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:53:30 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <28DD527C94F44E68B6069F7A3094A2B7@CraigPC> You can also get this done at an Office Depot. They had me sign my name larger than usual three times, then they took the best quality and reduced it to a stamp that was normal signature size. I had them do it in blue ink so it looked more like a real signature when compared to the black ink of the letter. Craig -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of AZNOR99 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:23 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys I suppose you could get both forms. I went to the printer and told them I wanted them to create my signature into a stamp. So they had me sign on an electronic unit - sort of like the point of purchase devices at stores after swiping a credit card. They then used the image of my original signature to create the stamp. In a message dated 10/21/2009 10:58:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: I am still confused about the stamp, Ronza. Isn't a generic representation of a signature? Or is it a stamp which is generated with a copy of your signature as written by you. I think that's the rout I will take. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 PM To: Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your signature. > Or > anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use that too. > Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling a > signature which does not happen to be your own. I used my stamp for > pleadings, discovery, official notification, and even before a notery > public. I put > the marks > made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was always accepted > by courts, other attorneys, etc. > > Ronza > > > In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes: > > There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. > That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as > sufficient as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is > made, but if it > is > made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "WB" > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. >> There are some letters where that may work. There are others where >> it does not. > In >> Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most > cases, >> we >> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic >> signature >> and a physical one does not need to be there. >> >> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you >> are in. >> >> I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic >> letters that do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use >> them for advertisement letters and such. We never use them for >> anything case related. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> Blindlaw listers: >> >> This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in >> my life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. >> >> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM >> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> hi, >> >> are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line >> at >> different places on the pages? >> if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a >> cardboard or >> laminated guide with a l notch. >> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and >> the corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for >> the bottom left >> corner of your stamp. >> >> if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple >> vertically at > >> the >> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer >> so perhaps >> use a hole punch to do the same. >> >> Bryan Schulz >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rod Alcidonis" >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> >>> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >>> >>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of >>> signing my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >>> >>> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >>> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >>> >>> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton Houston >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >>> >>>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>>> Independence Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of >>>> spending several >>>> hours >>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. >>>> Lots of sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to >>>> their assistants. I had mine made at Office Max. >>>> Hope that answers your question. >>>> >>>> Ronza >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight >>>> Time, roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>>> >>>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>>> opposing >>>> >>>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to >>>> delegate this task to an assistant? >>>> >>>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>>> >>>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>>> C. 718-704-4651 >>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>>> Hamilton >>>> Houston >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account >>>> info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. >> com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob >> al.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 >> 0ed.gov >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdborne%40gmail.co m From marks at accessingenuity.com Thu Oct 22 04:07:10 2009 From: marks at accessingenuity.com (Mark Stimson) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:07:10 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Contact within Lexis who knows about using assistive technology with Lexis In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002501ca52cd$2823f960$786bec20$@com> Hi Noel, I have recently spoken to someone there about screen reader access. This particular person was the contact person I was given, but she is not the most knowledgeable about the access issues. She does however know the two individuals that are employees at Lexis who are JAWS users, and are supposedly very knowledgeable. So, in a nutshell, contact the person below to get her contacts. Michele Wyllie Lexis-Nexis (415) 829-8429 Best regards, Mark Mark Stimson, Ph.D. Accessibility Specialist www.DocumentAccessibility.com www.AccessIngenuity.com -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:27 PM To: 'blindlaw at nfbnet.org' Subject: [blindlaw] Contact within Lexis who knows about using assistive technology with Lexis Blindlaw listers: The National Association of Blind Lawyers is exploring putting together a continuing legal education seminar for blind lawyers, a part of which would include using Lexis with assistive technology. Does anyone on the list have any contacts within Lexis who know about using Lexis with a screen reader or other assistive technology? If so, please send me an e-mail with the information at: noel.nightingale at ed.gov Thank you. Noel Nightingale _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marks%40accessinge nuity.com __________ NOD32 4530 (20091021) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From b75205 at gmail.com Thu Oct 22 07:29:01 2009 From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:29:01 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: <28DD527C94F44E68B6069F7A3094A2B7@CraigPC> References: <28DD527C94F44E68B6069F7A3094A2B7@CraigPC> Message-ID: Perhaps it is time to bring back the old signet ring where you press your ring into wax to seal a document like the romans used to do! That way you would have the mark on your person at all times. James Pepper From pattichang at att.net Thu Oct 22 12:35:24 2009 From: pattichang at att.net (Patti chang ) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:35:24 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys Message-ID: Our entire court system uses electronic signatures. Patti Gregory-Chang President, NFBI Sent from my KNFB mobile. -original message- Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys From: AZNOR99 at aol.com Date: 10/21/2009 8:04 PM By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your signature. Or anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use that too. Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling a signature which does not happen to be your own. I used my stamp for pleadings, discovery, official notification, and even before a notery public. I put the marks made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was always accepted by courts, other attorneys, etc. Ronza In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes: There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "WB" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There > are > some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. In > Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, > we > are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic > signature > and a physical one does not need to be there. > > So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in. > > I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters > that > do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for > advertisement > letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > Blindlaw listers: > > This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my > life > as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. > > Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Schulz > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > hi, > > are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line > at > different places on the pages? > if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or > laminated guide with a l notch. > the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the > corner > of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left > corner of your stamp. > > if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > the > left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so > perhaps > use a hole punch to do the same. > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > >> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >> >> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing >> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >> >> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >> >> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >> >> Take care >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>> Independence >>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>> hours >>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>> assistants. I >>> had mine made at Office Max. >>> Hope that answers your question. >>> >>> Ronza >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>> opposing >>> >>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>> this >>> task to an assistant? >>> >>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 > 0ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Thu Oct 22 18:45:46 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:45:46 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Anyone in Houston Message-ID: <087901ca5347$dfa757b0$9ef60710$@com> Hi everyone! If there is anyone in Houston, would you please contact me off-list? I want to share some information with you. Thanks so much. William mruniverse08 at gmail.com From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 25 15:41:05 2009 From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:41:05 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty Message-ID: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury duty. I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow. I have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect. The thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve. Can someone familiar with the process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect? My current plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons in hand, but I cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk. Is there an alternate plan I should follow? I'm very ignorant about this sort of thing, and apologize. Thanks for any information. Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com Sun Oct 25 17:16:28 2009 From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:16:28 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <98025DE79C3742A9B6D325C41EBBBF81@russ> There are no blanket exclusions for anyone to serve on a jury in California. When you go through the security check at the Courthouse, ask one of the officers where you should go and someone will help you. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:41 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury duty. I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow. I have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect. The thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve. Can someone familiar with the process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect? My current plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons in hand, but I cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk. Is there an alternate plan I should follow? I'm very ignorant about this sort of thing, and apologize. Thanks for any information. Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo .com From mikefry79 at gmail.com Sun Oct 25 18:02:33 2009 From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:02:33 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <8c58e54a0910251102x5a5d8b75kdc9c6b9046dcb8ee@mail.gmail.com> I think you have to go since I don't think having a disability is an excuse to not show up. They'll have to pick you during the voir dire process in order to actually be on a jury. On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote: > I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury duty. > I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow. I > have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my > blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect. The > thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by > sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve. Can someone familiar with the > process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect? My current > plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons in > hand, but I cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk. > Is there an alternate plan I should follow? I'm very ignorant about this > sort of thing, and apologize. > Thanks for any information. > > Mark BurningHawk > stone_troll at sbcglobal.net > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > Namaste! > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > From habnkid at aol.com Sun Oct 25 18:34:28 2009 From: habnkid at aol.com (Haben Girma) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:34:28 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? Message-ID: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> Hello Listers, I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT score is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations I requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate argument to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further complicating this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's just a 162. According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my blindness? best, Haben From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 25 18:53:31 2009 From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:53:31 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: <98025DE79C3742A9B6D325C41EBBBF81@russ> References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> <98025DE79C3742A9B6D325C41EBBBF81@russ> Message-ID: <2C44720D-40B9-4948-86C0-516D5DFDE8B3@sbcglobal.net> Yes, thank you; this is my plan, to show up with summons in hand and request whatever accommodations may be available. If I get struck, I get struck. Thanks to all who have responded to my inquiries on this matter. Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! From pattichang at att.net Sun Oct 25 19:21:04 2009 From: pattichang at att.net (Patti chang ) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:21:04 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty Message-ID: In most jurisdictions blindness is not a disqualifier. I served in IL. Patti Gregory-Chang President, NFBI Sent from my KNFB mobile. -original message- Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty From: Michael Fry Date: 10/25/2009 1:29 PM I think you have to go since I don't think having a disability is an excuse to not show up. They'll have to pick you during the voir dire process in order to actually be on a jury. On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote: > I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury duty. > I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow. I > have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my > blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect. The > thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by > sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve. Can someone familiar with the > process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect? My current > plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons in > hand, but I cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk. > Is there an alternate plan I should follow? I'm very ignorant about this > sort of thing, and apologize. > Thanks for any information. > > Mark BurningHawk > stone_troll at sbcglobal.net > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > Namaste! > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net From goldflash9 at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 25 19:29:52 2009 From: goldflash9 at sbcglobal.net (Sarah Clark) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:29:52 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> Message-ID: <00a701ca55a9$869e5d80$6701a8c0@computer2> Haben, For a blind student, your LSAT score is not at all low, and I think that law schools tend to compare scores of blind students to that of other blind students that have applied to/attended their school. I don't know exactly what you're referring to as a "top school." Its possible that it is too low for a top 5 school, but I don't think its too low for a top 20 school. I know of someone who recently went to UCLA with a similar score. Of course, the caliber of undergrad school you went to and your performance there also makes a difference. She had went to Stanford for undergrad and did very well there. Her name is Stephanie Enyart. I don't know where her contact info is offhand, but you can probably track her down. Maybe she's on this list? She also applied to and was accepted to other top 20 schools, so you should be able to get some good input from her on applying. She also headed a national organization for law students with disabilities, so undoubtedly she has learned even more since the time that she herself went through the application process. Good luck. Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? > Hello Listers, > > I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if it > would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT score > is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations I > requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear > that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate argument > to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further complicating > this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's just a 162. > According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a > top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. > Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took > the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those > conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? > Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my > blindness? > > best, > Haben > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/goldflash9%40sbcglobal.net From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com Sun Oct 25 19:37:43 2009 From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:37:43 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? In-Reply-To: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> Message-ID: 162 is an excellent score. However, you must be very realistic about what that score gets you today. Whether you are blind or sighted, that score will probably not get you into a top tier law school. If you received accommodations, then mentioning your visual impairment would be viewed as an excuse. It would be better to mention your blindness at some point in your personal statement, and let those who will decide on your admission know that bit of personal information about you. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Haben Girma Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? Hello Listers, I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT score is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations I requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate argument to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further complicating this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's just a 162. According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my blindness? best, Haben _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo .com From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Sun Oct 25 20:13:01 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:13:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? In-Reply-To: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> Message-ID: What school are your going for? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 2:34 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? > Hello Listers, > > I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if > it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT > score is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations > I requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear > that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate > argument to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further > complicating this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's > just a 162. According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to > get me into a top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are > very good. Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact > that I took the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it > based on those conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the > mainstream standard? Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score > differently due to my blindness? > > best, > Haben > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.31/2458 - Release Date: 10/25/09 08:10:00 From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Sun Oct 25 20:14:43 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:14:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No, but it is my understanding that most attorneys will exclude blind individuals from cases. Is this true? Any stats in that particular area? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti chang" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty > In most jurisdictions blindness is not a disqualifier. I served in IL. > > Patti Gregory-Chang > President, NFBI > Sent from my KNFB mobile. > > -original message- > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty > From: Michael Fry > Date: 10/25/2009 1:29 PM > > I think you have to go since I don't think having a disability is an > excuse > to not show up. They'll have to pick you during the voir dire process in > order to actually be on a jury. > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk > > wrote: > >> I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury >> duty. >> I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow. >> I >> have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my >> blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect. >> The >> thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by >> sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve. Can someone familiar with >> the >> process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect? My current >> plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons >> in >> hand, but I cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to >> walk. >> Is there an alternate plan I should follow? I'm very ignorant about >> this >> sort of thing, and apologize. >> Thanks for any information. >> >> Mark BurningHawk >> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net >> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >> Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >> Namaste! >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.31/2458 - Release Date: 10/25/09 08:10:00 From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 26 22:51:26 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:51:26 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: You can delay or postpone your summons for up to a year so if you need to delay it until you can get there you will be able to do so. Your information about blind people sitting on juries is outdated. Blind people can and do serve on juries. When I was called for jury duty I was going to be seated as an alternate on a wrongful death medical malpractice case and was dismissed not because of my being blind but because the defense attorney representing the doctor charged wanted to know the names of attorneys that I had worked for. As they were either plaintiff attorneys or criminal defense attorneys he felt that I would have a bias in favor of the plaintiff. Of course, this is the actual scenario that I expected would happen and I told this to another prospective juror that I was waiting with. I hope this still helps as I am just getting caught up on emails as I was at California NFB convention this week end. Contact me off list if you need to about this. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark BurningHawk" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:41 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty >I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury >duty. I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report >tomorrow. I have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury >because of my blindness, and am seeking further information about what I >can expect. The thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I >might earn by sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve. Can someone >familiar with the process in Alameda County please let me know what to >expect? My current plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning >with the summons in hand, but I cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, >so will have to walk. Is there an alternate plan I should follow? I'm >very ignorant about this sort of thing, and apologize. > Thanks for any information. > > Mark BurningHawk > stone_troll at sbcglobal.net > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > Namaste! > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 26 23:35:16 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:35:16 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? In-Reply-To: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> Message-ID: one option might be to take it again now that you are familoiar with the test. If your score is higher they will then use the higher score. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? > Hello Listers, > > I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if it > would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT score > is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations I > requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear > that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate argument > to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further complicating > this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's just a 162. > According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a > top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. > Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took > the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those > conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? > Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my > blindness? > > best, > Haben > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 27 00:08:59 2009 From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:08:59 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Well, what happened was that my name was called along with 23 others, and all 24 of us were told that the court didn't need us and we were all sent home on the first day. It was an honorable dismissal, and by that time I was just as glad to get out, having done my best to fulfill my duty. So, while it was an interesting exercise in guide- dog/GPS field mobility, no actual jury duty was done. :) Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Tue Oct 27 01:34:59 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:34:59 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <93D7B0490B524A7996D2990FD8ABD6C1@StevePC> Good job! Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark BurningHawk" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty > Well, what happened was that my name was called along with 23 others, > and all 24 of us were told that the court didn't need us and we were > all sent home on the first day. It was an honorable dismissal, and by > that time I was just as glad to get out, having done my best to > fulfill my duty. So, while it was an interesting exercise in guide- > dog/GPS field mobility, no actual jury duty was done. :) > > Mark BurningHawk > stone_troll at sbcglobal.net > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > Namaste! > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2460 - Release Date: 10/26/09 08:10:00 From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 27 02:17:23 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:17:23 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike> You won't get called again for at least the next year. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark BurningHawk" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty > Well, what happened was that my name was called along with 23 others, and > all 24 of us were told that the court didn't need us and we were all sent > home on the first day. It was an honorable dismissal, and by that time I > was just as glad to get out, having done my best to fulfill my duty. So, > while it was an interesting exercise in guide- dog/GPS field mobility, no > actual jury duty was done. :) > > Mark BurningHawk > stone_troll at sbcglobal.net > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > Namaste! > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From habnkid at aol.com Tue Oct 27 03:31:42 2009 From: habnkid at aol.com (Haben Girma) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:31:42 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? In-Reply-To: <00a701ca55a9$869e5d80$6701a8c0@computer2> References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> <00a701ca55a9$869e5d80$6701a8c0@computer2> Message-ID: <4AE6699E.5080201@aol.com> Sarah and Russell, thanks for the advice. By "top school" I mean one of the top ten, but partiuclarly I would really love to get into UC Berkeley or Stanford. I do need to be realistic, I have a better chance of getting into a top 20 school than a top 5. I appreciate getting feedback from other blind law students. Stephanie has been very helpful over the summer, I'll email her and see what she has to add. thanks, Haben On 10/25/2009 12:29 PM, Sarah Clark wrote: > Haben, > For a blind student, your LSAT score is not at all low, and I think > that law schools tend to compare scores of blind students to that of > other blind students that have applied to/attended their school. > I don't know exactly what you're referring to as a "top school." Its > possible that it is too low for a top 5 school, but I don't think its > too low for a top 20 school. I know of someone who recently went to > UCLA with a similar score. Of course, the caliber of undergrad school > you went to and your performance there also makes a difference. She > had went to Stanford for undergrad and did very well there. Her name > is Stephanie Enyart. I don't know where her contact info is offhand, > but you can probably track her down. Maybe she's on this list? She > also applied to and was accepted to other top 20 schools, so you > should be able to get some good input from her on applying. She also > headed a national organization for law students with disabilities, so > undoubtedly she has learned even more since the time that she herself > went through the application process. > Good luck. > > Sarah > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM > Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? > > >> Hello Listers, >> >> I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering >> if it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my >> LSAT score is not higher. Considering that I received all the >> accommodations I requested and that the test pretty much went >> according to plan, I fear that it might sound more like an excuse >> rather than a legitimate argument to ask them to treat a blind test >> taker differently. Further complicating this is the fact that my LSAT >> score is not very low, it's just a 162. According to my pre-law >> adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a top school. By the >> way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. Would top schools >> look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took the test under >> very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those conditions? >> Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? Would >> it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my >> blindness? >> >> best, >> Haben >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/goldflash9%40sbcglobal.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/habnkid%40aol.com > From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 12:53:55 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:53:55 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California Message-ID: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> Folks, Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal programs/schools in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really appreciate it. Thanks! William From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 27 14:52:07 2009 From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:52:07 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: <7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike> References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> <7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike> Message-ID: <2FB108FD-6132-4B3E-B4A0-B7D91D32817B@sbcglobal.net> Right on, and if I'm still living in this place in a year ... I'll just throw myself off the bridge. :) Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! From benkarpilow at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 17:32:13 2009 From: benkarpilow at gmail.com (Ben Karpilow) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:32:13 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> Message-ID: <9733773B71364F41AE30279E22A3A95F@benbpgavlhgwwr> William, I suggest you contact the Los Angeles County Bar Association and ask them about local paralegal programs. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "WB" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > Folks, > > > > Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? > > > > The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal > programs/schools > in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the > schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really > appreciate it. > > > > Thanks! > > > > William > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/benkarpilow%40gmail.com From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Tue Oct 27 17:35:07 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:35:07 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: <2FB108FD-6132-4B3E-B4A0-B7D91D32817B@sbcglobal.net> References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> <7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike> <2FB108FD-6132-4B3E-B4A0-B7D91D32817B@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <7D6087BE9743413EB772119C47F179C7@StevePC> You hang in there man! I'm sure something will happen for you that is good. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark BurningHawk" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty > Right on, and if I'm still living in this place in a year ... I'll > just throw myself off the bridge. :) > > Mark BurningHawk > stone_troll at sbcglobal.net > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > Namaste! > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.34/2462 - Release Date: 10/27/09 07:38:00 From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com Tue Oct 27 23:06:50 2009 From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:06:50 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California In-Reply-To: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> Message-ID: U.C. Irvine has an excellent program. A B.A. degree is a prerequisite. There are many other schools that offer such programs, ranging from the very good to the very bad. Do a Google search for Paralegal schools in Los Angeles or Orange County and see what comes up. Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. THOMAS & ASSOCIATES www.californiaemployersattorneys.com Orange County Office 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 Beverly Hills Office 9107 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 450 Beverly Hills, California 90210 T: (310) 461-3561 -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of WB Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:54 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California Folks, Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal programs/schools in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really appreciate it. Thanks! William _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo .com From benkarpilow at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 01:13:11 2009 From: benkarpilow at gmail.com (Ben Karpilow) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:13:11 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Anyone practicing workers compensation law? Message-ID: <0B6215BB22614433AF5F104E953BA24C@benbpgavlhgwwr> Hello listers, do any of you practice in the area of worker's compensation law?If so, I'd be interested in hearing about your practice techniques. Feel free to contact me off list at benkarpilow at gmail.com Thanks, Ben From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 28 04:24:34 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:24:34 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California In-Reply-To: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> Message-ID: The following resources may be of help. California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession www.caparalegal.org Paralegal Network http://www.paralegalgateway.com/ National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide network for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the paralegal profession. Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal Advanced Competency Exam www.paralegals.org Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "WB" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > Folks, > > > > Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? > > > > The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal > programs/schools > in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the > schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really > appreciate it. > > > > Thanks! > > > > William > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From JFreeh at nfb.org Wed Oct 28 05:00:02 2009 From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh, Jessica) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:00:02 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind Files Complaint with United States Department of Education Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Chris Danielsen Director of Public Relations National Federation of the Blind (410) 659-9314, extension 2330 (410) 262-1281 (cell) cdanielsen at nfb.org National Federation of the Blind Files Complaint with United States Department of Education Inaccessible Web Site U.S.A. Learns Discriminates Against the Blind Baltimore, Maryland (October 27, 2009): The National Federation of the Blind (NFB), the nation's oldest and largest organization of blind people and the leading advocate for equal access by the blind to information technology, and Carlos Mora, a blind resident of Baltimore, Maryland, filed an administrative complaint today with the United States Department of Education. The complaint asserts that one of the United States Department of Education's Web sites, U.S.A Learns, violates Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act because it is inaccessible to blind people who use text-to-speech screen access technology or Braille displays to access information on the Internet. Because of the inaccessibility of the U.S.A Learns Web site, blind people cannot access or navigate through the content of the English vocabulary, spelling, and pronunciation lessons that are offered through the site. Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: "In an age where the Internet is a part of everyday life, blind people must have equal access to the information and resources provided on the World Wide Web. In particular, the United States government has a legal and moral obligation to ensure that the information it provides on the Internet is equally accessible to all in America, including the blind. It is especially ironic that the Department of Education, which is commissioned to provide educational opportunities for all, would deny blind people access to a Web site that provides instructive tools for those who speak English as a second language. This is unacceptable and we demand equal access for all blind people." Carlos Mora, a blind individual from Baltimore, Maryland, said: "I work full time and have been accepted to a master's degree program at Johns Hopkins University, and English is my second language. I attempted to use the U.S.A. Learns Web site to prepare for my everyday life and my future studies by practicing English vocabulary, spelling, and pronunciation, but the Web site was not accessible to me. It is frustrating to be denied access to any Web site, but it is especially so when I am being denied access to a Web site with educational tools that would help me to become a more active and productive member of American society." This is the third complaint filed by the National Federation of the Blind on behalf of blind people in America regarding the inaccessibility of a federal government Web site. The NFB plans to file complaints about other inaccessible federal government Web sites as the organization continues to receive multiple reports from blind people of barriers they have faced while trying to access government information, programs, and services on the Internet. Complainants are represented by attorneys Daniel F. Goldstein and Allison L. Harper of Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP, 120 E. Baltimore Street, Suite 1700, Baltimore, Maryland 21202, (410) 962-1030, fax: (410) 385-0869, dfg at browngold.com, ah at browngold.com, www.browngold.com. ### About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Wed Oct 28 16:17:09 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:17:09 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California In-Reply-To: References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> Message-ID: <84FE258DB2C94ABC9BB17D0F4F76C707@StevePC> Chuck: How much work is out there for new paralegal folks? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > The following resources may be of help. > California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide > organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession > www.caparalegal.org > Paralegal Network > http://www.paralegalgateway.com/ > National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide network > for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the > paralegal profession. Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal > Advanced Competency Exam > www.paralegals.org > Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "WB" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM > Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > > >> Folks, >> >> >> >> Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? >> >> >> >> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal >> programs/schools >> in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the >> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would >> really >> appreciate it. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> William >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.36/2465 - Release Date: 10/28/09 09:34:00 From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 28 18:18:17 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:18:17 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California In-Reply-To: <84FE258DB2C94ABC9BB17D0F4F76C707@StevePC> References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> <84FE258DB2C94ABC9BB17D0F4F76C707@StevePC> Message-ID: This depends on where they are. There are some markets that are flooded and with the economic conditions many law firms have had to downsize their support staffs including paralegals. In some markets there are jobs but in others there is a shortage. Many paralegals will take jobs as legal secretaries or entry level support staff to get their feet in the door. Being self-employed I work primarily for solo practioners or small firms that would not require full time paralegal services. It also depends on how creative someone can be with their skills as well as there are many nontraditional jobs where paralegal skills are useful such as public policy or legislative analysts, etc. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve P. Deeley" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > Chuck: > > How much work is out there for new paralegal folks? > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:24 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > > >> The following resources may be of help. >> California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide >> organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession >> www.caparalegal.org >> Paralegal Network >> http://www.paralegalgateway.com/ >> National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide network >> for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the >> paralegal profession. Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal >> Advanced Competency Exam >> www.paralegals.org >> Chuck >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "WB" >> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM >> Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California >> >> >>> Folks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? >>> >>> >>> >>> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal >>> programs/schools >>> in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the >>> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would >>> really >>> appreciate it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> William >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.36/2465 - Release Date: 10/28/09 > 09:34:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Wed Oct 28 19:46:08 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:46:08 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California In-Reply-To: References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> <84FE258DB2C94ABC9BB17D0F4F76C707@StevePC> Message-ID: <3829F80340FB4D81971D928BE0E72BE1@StevePC> Thanks. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > This depends on where they are. There are some markets that are flooded > and > with the economic conditions many law firms have had to downsize their > support staffs including paralegals. In some markets there are jobs but in > others there is a shortage. Many paralegals will take jobs as legal > secretaries or entry level support staff to get their feet in the door. > Being self-employed I work primarily for solo practioners or small firms > that would not require full time paralegal services. > It also depends on how creative someone can be with their skills as well > as > there are many nontraditional jobs where paralegal skills are useful such > as > public policy or legislative analysts, etc. > Chuck > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve P. Deeley" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > > >> Chuck: >> >> How much work is out there for new paralegal folks? >> Steve >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California >> >> >>> The following resources may be of help. >>> California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide >>> organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession >>> www.caparalegal.org >>> Paralegal Network >>> http://www.paralegalgateway.com/ >>> National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide >>> network >>> for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the >>> paralegal profession. Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal >>> Advanced Competency Exam >>> www.paralegals.org >>> Chuck >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "WB" >>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California >>> >>> >>>> Folks, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal >>>> programs/schools >>>> in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the >>>> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would >>>> really >>>> appreciate it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> William >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.36/2465 - Release Date: >> 10/28/09 >> 09:34:00 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.36/2465 - Release Date: 10/28/09 09:34:00 From craig.borne at dot.gov Fri Oct 30 14:01:40 2009 From: craig.borne at dot.gov (craig.borne at dot.gov) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:01:40 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Scholarship Opportunity for MBA program in North Carolina Message-ID: <61017FCC3706464B8ACB770A8038174E82412B@OSTMAIL03VS3.ad.dot.gov> FREE MASTERS PROGRAM AT WAKE FOREST RECEIVES POOR RESPONSE Wake Forest University has an opportunity for minority students to attend its MBA program for FREE, and so far, the response has been very poor. Please, pass along this opportunity to your friends, families, and networks to see if there is an interest. This is a great school and a tremendous opportunity to attend a top graduate school. See details below. The contact person information is: Derrick S. Boone, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Marketing Room 3139 Worrell Professional Center Babcock Graduate School of Management Wake Forest University 1834 Wake Forest Drive Winston-Salem , NC 27109-8758 email: derrick.boone at ... Website: http://mba.wfu.edu/ Phone: (336)..758.4475; Toll-free: (866) 925-3622; Fax: 336.758.4514 Message from Derrick S. Boone, Ph.D.: Greetings, I wanted to let you know about a great opportunity here at Wake Forest where you can get a FREE education and get PAID while you're doing it. Our Dean of the Schools of Business is the former CEO of PepsiCo and very committed to diversity. He's gone around to his CEO friends, who have agreed to donate a bunch of money to pay tuition and fees, provide a stipend, and a job, to diverse students. The details are below. The problem is, response to the program has been dismal! As a faculty member, I would be embarrassed for him to have to tell his CEO friends, "thanks so much for your donation, but unfortunately I have to give it back because we couldn't find Any students who wanted it." So, I need your help. Please contact me if you, or ANYONE you know is interested in the program. I want to help out as many young scholars as I can. Don't worry about whether or not you (or they) have taken the GMAT, etc. All you need to do at this point is JUST APPLY. About the Program: The Master of Art in Management program is designed specifically for liberal arts majors only. The MA degree program is a 10 month intense study of the basic functional areas of Business. After graduation and working for approximately two years, all MA graduates are eligible to apply to Wake Forest as part of the MA/MBA joint degree program and get the MBA in one year. The new Dean, Steve Reinemund, has created a new scholarship for diverse students pursuing the MA degree called the Corporate Fellowship. The Corporate Fellowship provides full tuition and a $21,000 stipend to cover living expenses. Additionally, each Corporate Fellow will participate in a practicum. The practicum has two components, educational and professional development. Each student will be assigned a mentor that is a high level executive with their sponsor corporation. The mentor will oversee an educational project covering 4 of the functional areas of business using their own corporation as the subject. The student will visit the corporation 3 - 4 times during the program to present his/her results of their research project. Additionally, the "professional development" component of the fellowship provides career coaching and leadership development for the students. The goal for the corporation is to be able to groom and hopefully, hire a top candidate from a diverse background for their organization. Of course, there is no obligation that the students accept any offer of employment. Still, the student benefits, even if they are not ultimately hired by their sponsor corporation in that they have the MA degree and the type of experience that will make them more marketable. From dandrews at visi.com Sat Oct 31 16:36:52 2009 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:36:52 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Social Security Told to Modernize for the Blind Message-ID: Subject: Social Security told to modernize for the blind Social Security told to modernize for the blind Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (10-20) 17:17 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- The Social Security Administration must give the nation's 3 million blind or visually impaired recipients the option of receiving benefit notices in braille or by audio computer disc, a federal judge in San Francisco said Tuesday. Ruling in a nationwide class-action suit, U.S. District Judge William Alsup said that by sending notices only by mail and phone calls, the agency is violating a law that guarantees the disabled equal access to its programs. He ordered the government to make the additional choices available by April 15. The case involves some of the 100 million notices the Social Security Administration sends each year to its 61 million beneficiaries, advising them of scheduled appointments, program changes, tax filings and possible benefit cuts. About 250,000 Americans receive benefits because of blindness, and another 2.7 million blind or sight-impaired people get Social Security for other reasons. Under rules authorized by Congress in 1988 and 1990, they can choose to be notified of agency actions by mail, with a follow-up phone call, or by certified mail with a return receipt. Those who make no choice are contacted by mail without a phone call. Alsup said the current system may have been effective 20 years ago, but no longer provides the "meaningful access" the law requires, in light of advanced technology. Little evidence was presented that blind people had lost benefits because of inadequate notice, Alsup said, but the current system is ineffective for at least some recipients. For example, he said, a blind person who needs to respond to a written notice must wait until someone is available to read it aloud, and may have problems meeting government deadlines. Alsup said the Social Security Administration refused to acknowledge that it was even covered by the anti-discrimination law until after the suit was filed in 2005, and "has been quick to find lame excuses for noncompliance." The agency must inform all blind and visually impaired recipients by Dec. 31 that they will have the choice of getting notices in braille or by Microsoft Word CD in mid-April, Alsup said. He said those who want another option, such as notification by e-mail, must be allowed to request it and show why they need it. "This is a huge benefit," said attorney Silvia Yee of the Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund in Berkeley, a lawyer for the plaintiffs. She said the ruling will allow many recipients "to have an independence in working with the (Social Security Administration) that they've never had before." Many sight-impaired recipients, particularly the young and those who become blind later in life, can't read braille, Yee said, "but for people who do read braille, it's their first choice." She said the CD option would particularly help younger recipients. Lowell Kepke, spokesman for the Social Security Administration's regional office in Richmond, said the agency "will review the order and take whatever actions are appropriate." From withat at msn.com Sat Oct 31 17:56:30 2009 From: withat at msn.com (Johnston) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:56:30 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods Message-ID: Hello all, I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent thread. What course outlining methods have you used? This is my first year in law school, so everything is new to me. I question whether the typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. with indentations would be ideal for me. It seems like it would be hard to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like this. I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas. Thanks much. Jay in Oregon From AZNOR99 at aol.com Sat Oct 31 21:24:08 2009 From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:24:08 EDT Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods Message-ID: Jay, Welcome to the list. You raise an excellent point. I had the same problem trying to figure out the big picture with the outline method at first. I ultimately developed the habit of creating two outlines. The first one was a really general big picture sort - less than a page. Think of it as a sort of table of contents, if you want. I even went back and added page numbers to my other outline later. I modeled this one-pager after the course sylabus outline. I also created it near the beginning of the semester so that I had a sense of where we were headed. I've pasted portions of that one-pager at the bottom of this email for your reference. Then I would take that really general "big picture" outline and fill it in with specific cases, concepts, and exceptions. So I might include things like "definition" or a specific case name and short description under one of the subcategories. By the time the term ended, I'd have just as long an outline as everyone else, but I also had the one-pager, which was great for little cram sessions and to keep me grounded. In fact, I actually compiled all the one-pagers and used them to help me study for the bar exam. Let me know if you want me to send you other examples. Good luck, Ronza Course Title: Torts I. Intentional Torts A. Assault B. Battery C. False Imprisonment D. Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress (IIED) E. Trespass to Land ... II. Harm to Economic and Dignitary Interests A. Defamation B. Invasion of Privacy C. Misrepresentation D. Interference with Business Relations ... III. Negligence A. Prima Facia Case 1. Duty 2. Breach 3. Causation 4. Damages B. Defenses 1. Contributory Negligence 2. Comparative Negligence 3. Assumption of Risk 4. Strict Liability ... In a message dated 10/31/2009 3:22:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, withat at msn.com writes: Hello all, I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent thread. What course outlining methods have you used? This is my first year in law school, so everything is new to me. I question whether the typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. with indentations would be ideal for me. It seems like it would be hard to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like this. I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas. Thanks much. Jay in Oregon _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com From dandrews at visi.com Thu Oct 1 01:59:11 2009 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:59:11 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Date: September 24, 2009 FOR INFORMATION CONTACT: DBTAC National Network of ADA Centers 1-800-949-4232 PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS The public has been given 60 days to comment on proposed revisions to regulations implementing the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA), as amended by the ADA Amendments Act of 2008. The regulatory changes, contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking just announced by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), focuses on providing individuals seeking protection against employment discrimination under Title I of the ADA with a more expansive definition of "disability." Written comments must be submitted on or before November 23, 2009. The ADA is an antidiscrimination statute passed by Congress and signed into law by the President in July 1990. The EEOC is responsible for enforcing Title I of the ADA, which prohibits employment discrimination against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires employers to make reasonable accommodations to employees and job applicants with disabilities. "We encourage the public to submit comments directly to the EEOC." "People with disabilities will be the winners when the new regulations are fully implemented and extensive public comment will ensure they are the best that they can be." The ADA Amendments Act, which went into effect Jan. 1, 2009, and the regulatory revisions embedded in the proposed rule now available for public comment, makes it easier for an individual alleging employment discrimination based on disability to establish that he or she meets the ADA's definitions of "disability." The ADA Amendments Act also modifies the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibits employment discrimination in the federal workforce on the basis of disability. The regulatory changes in the proposed rule emphasize that the definition of disability-an impairment that poses a substantial limitation in a major life activity-must be construed in favor of broad coverage of individuals to the maximum extent permitted by the terms of the ADA, and should not require extensive analysis. The regulatory changes expand major life activities to include "major bodily functions, and clarify that mitigating measures, such as medications and devices that people use to reduce or eliminate the effects of impairment, are not to be considered when determining whether a person has a disability. They also clarify that impairments that are episodic or in remission, such as epilepsy, cancer, and many kinds of psychiatric impairments, are disabilities if they would "substantially limit" major life activities when active. --MORE-- Finally, the regulation revisions provide a more straightforward way of demonstrating a substantial limitation in the major life activity of working, and implements the ADA Amendment Act's new standard for determining whether someone is regarded as having a disability. The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking containing the regulatory changes is posted on the EEOC website, http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html along with a question-and-answer guide about the proposal and instructions for submitting public comments to the Commission. You Can Submit Comments by Mail, Fax and Electronically, Here's How: Written comments should be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive Officer, Executive Secretariat, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC 20507. Comments submitted by fax. As a convenience to commenters, the Executive Secretariat will accept comments transmitted by facsimile (``FAX'') machine. The telephone number of the FAX receiver is (202) 663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal to ensure access to the equipment. Receipt of FAX transmittals will not be acknowledged, except that the sender may request confirmation of receipt by calling the Executive Secretariat staff at (202) 663-4070 (voice) or (202) 663-4074 (TTY). (These are not toll-free telephone numbers.) Comments submitted electronically You may also submit comments and attachments electronically at http://www.regulations.gov , which is the Federal eRulemaking Portal. Follow the instructions online for submitting comments. Copies of comments submitted by the public will be available for review at the Commission's library, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Washington, DC 20507, between the hours of 9:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. or can be reviewed at http://www.regulations.gov. ### From stephanie_enyart at yahoo.com Thu Oct 1 03:37:19 2009 From: stephanie_enyart at yahoo.com (Stephanie Enyart) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:37:19 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <59E75F8EAB48470BAB9D6E4843DA1648@SLIM> Message-ID: <2993331CBBC34D2BA45BF749C4716C6E@DF5R2QD1> Hi Bruce, I would be happy to share the strategies I used. I ca be reached easiest via cell on nights and weekends: 415.596.6050. I live in Berkeley too. Best, Stephanie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Sexton Jr. Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:42 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] (no subject) Hello, I am enrolled in a LSAT preparation class. It's going well! Do any of you have tricks you've used to diagram for logical reasoning and or logic games? I know Deepa has used a magnet board, but I am interested in how other people have diagrammed so that all the information is represented, and all connections and inferences can be made. The teacher is using dashes, arrows and offshoots that divide two things, very much like a family tree! Any tips or tricks are greatly appreciated! Thank You, Bruce Sexton Jr. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject) > Test Please ignore, I am just testing a distribution rule. > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bjsexton%40comcast .net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stephanie_enyart%4 0yahoo.com From David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us Thu Oct 1 21:58:47 2009 From: David.B.Andrews at state.mn.us (David B Andrews) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:58:47 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: 2010 Washington Seminar Message-ID: >>> "Pare, John" 10/1/2009 3:37 PM >>> Fellow Federationists: The dates for Washington Seminar are: Monday, February 1 through Thursday, February 4, 2010 Great Gathering-In--Monday, February 1, 2010, 5 PM Congressional Appointments--February 2 through February 4, 2010 The following message comes from Diane McGeorge who organizes much of the logistics of Washington Seminar. * * * Please make your hotel reservations as soon as possible. We need to have reservations no later than December 30, 2009. Please do not contact the hotel to make your reservations. I submit all the reservations for the Washington Seminar. You may call (303) 778-1130, extension 219, to make your reservation, or you may e-mail your reservations to Lisa Bonder son at lbonderson at cocenter.org. We will confirm receipt of your reservation either by return e-mail or by telephone, so be sure to give us your telephone number and your e-mail address. The following is the information that I need to have to assure you of a room at the Holiday Inn Capitol. 1. Your date of arrival and departure. 2. First and last names of any roommates that might be sharing with you. If you make the reservation by phone, please spell first and last names of each person sharing the room. Please include arrival and departure date for each person. 3. Please specify if you wish to have: A smoking or non-smoking room An accessible room Two beds, one queen bed, or one king bed A rollaway bed (there will be a $10 charge per night) 4. If Divisions (i.e., Students, Parents, Merchants, Lawyers, etc.) wish to have space for a meeting, I must have your requirements for meeting space no later than December 1, 2009. We want to be able to accommodate everyone, and in order to do so we must have plenty of advance notice to work with the hotel. Per the hotel contract, individual cancellation must be made at least seventy-two hours prior to the date of arrival to avoid one-night's-room-plus-tax cancellation charge. You must get in touch with Lisa Bonder son or me to make changes to your reservation as soon as possible to avoid such a charge. The rates are $154 for single, double, triple, or quad rooms, and the tax is 14.5 percent per night. When you check in you must be prepared to cover at least the first night of your stay with either a credit card or check, and then arrange to pay the balance by presenting a credit card or a check for the remainder of the cost. Please remember, the deadline is December 30, 2009. There will be a number of special meetings during the seminar and you will want to watch the NFB Web site for special announcements. The Great Gathering-In meeting will be held on Monday, February 1, 2009. You certainly don't want to miss that. I hope this answers all of your questions. I look forward to seeing all of you in D.C. in February. Diane McGeorge From RODDJ12 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Oct 3 09:45:42 2009 From: RODDJ12 at HOTMAIL.COM (RODDJ12 at HOTMAIL.COM) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 02:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G Message-ID: <1124623515.6883891254563142608.JavaMail.tomcat@localhost> *Please note, the sender's email address has not been verified. 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Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600. So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had not sufficiently protected its blind customers. "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal. In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a prostitute or that she had defrauded his credit card. She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual advances, according to court documents. That case also was dismissed. Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site. He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour. He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon amount - usually $750 for two hours. But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," according to court records. Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days that did not use her services. He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him his credit-card bill. When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take any action, court documents said. In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers to use their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants. In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at providing personal, hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set rate," according to court documents. It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated that those services were prostitution, court documents said. When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't bother me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the disciplinary board." In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women. "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind men." He said that he had the chutzpah to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her pay." "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said. Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court documents. When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, William Reil, who did not return calls for comment. Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates lessons were "ridiculous." "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said. In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do." In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed charges because they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted a breach of the card-member agreement. Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public accommodation." Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA because the ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said. Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not to include credit-card companies. "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the blind access to credit cards. If you can be cheated, then you can't use credit cards." Buzz up! 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Victoria Thomas ADA - Novo Nordisk Legal Advocacy Fellow American Diabetes Association 1701 North Beauregard Street Alexandria, VA 22311 Tel: (800) 676-4065 ext. 2124 Fax: (703) 549-8748 E-mail: vthomas at diabetes.org www.diabetes.org/discrimination There was a recent message about the American Diabetes Association's upcoming attorney training and attorney network. In addition to training and referrals regarding education discrimination, the attorney training and attorney network also covers employment discrimination. Registration for the conference is still open, see the announcement, below. The program always gets rave reviews and the faculty includes some of the most experienced disability discrimination litigators from around the country. Attorneys who cannot attend the conference are still welcome to join the American Diabetes Association's attorney network, which includes referrals in education, employment, public accommodations, police, and prison discrimination, access to technical assistance in disability discrimination law and an active attorney listserv where disability law information, resources, and questions are frequently posted. You can check out the ADA's attorney materials bank, available at http://www.diabetes.org/advocacy-and-legalresources/attorneymaterials.jsp Still Time To Register Fighting For Fairness 2009: Ending Discrimination Against Students And Workers With Diabetes A few spots remain open for ADA Advocacy Attorney Network members to attend “Fighting For Fairness: Ending Discrimination Against Students and Workers With Diabetes 2009 (FFF2009), a training for attorneys, to take place at the Sheraton Gateway Hotel, Atlanta, GA on October 23-24. The program fee is only $50. CLEs will be offered. This is a terrific opportunity (which has been offered only on a biennial basis) to develop expertise (or build on existing knowledge) regarding diabetes and disability discrimination law. FFF2009 will provide participants will intensive skills building sessions designed to enhance their ability to represent either students or workers with diabetes. Specifically FFF 2009 will include: * Sessions on the impact of the Americans with Disabilities Act Amendments Act (ADAAA) of 2008 on diabetes-related discrimination, proving disability, and defense issues plus discussions of the EEOCs recently posted Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to Implement the ADA Amendments Act of 2008 and EEOC's Questions and Answers on its Proposed Regulations for the ADA Amendments Act make this an important and timely program. * Separate program tracks (6 ½ hours each) focused on diabetes discrimination in employment and school * Practical sessions on how to resolve diabetes discrimination problems * Information on the American Diabetes Association and other resources to assist in diabetes-related litigation To view the FFF 2009 brochure and to register, go to www.diabetes.org/fightingforfairness. Applicants will be accepted on a first-come, first-served basis. Some scholarship funding is available to assist with airfare based upon both the participant's and the ADA's needs. Join us at Fighting For Fairness 2009 and be a part of our campaign to end discrimination against students and workers with diabetes. Contact Steve Bieringer at stevebier at comcast.net or (303) 717-6707 with any questions. American Diabetes Association Cure. Care. Commitment. Visit us at http://diabetes.org Or Call 1-800-DIABETES (800-342-2383) From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Sat Oct 3 15:06:39 2009 From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne) Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:06:39 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091003150639.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile! Ray Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: , "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36 Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > > > Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > > By STEPHANIE FARR > Philadelphia Daily News > > farrs at phillynews.com > 215-854-4225 > > Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a Philadelphia > woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week. > > John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600. > > So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had not sufficiently > protected its blind customers. > > "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal. > > In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a prostitute > or that she had defrauded his credit card. > > She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual advances, > according to court documents. > > That case also was dismissed. > > Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site. > > He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour. > > He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a receipt �� which he couldn't see �� that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon amount > �� usually $750 for two hours. > > But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," according > to court records. > > Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days that did not use her services. > > He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him his credit-card bill. > > When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take any action, court documents said. > > In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers to use > their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants. > > In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at providing personal, > hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set rate," according to court documents. > > It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated that those services were prostitution, court documents said. > > When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't bother > me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the disciplinary > board." > > In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women. > > "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind men." > > He said that he had the chutzpah > to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her pay." > > "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said. > > Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court documents. > > When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, William Reil, > who did not return calls for comment. > > Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates lessons were "ridiculous." > > "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said. > > In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do." > > In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed charges because > they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted a breach of the card-member agreement. > > Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public accommodation." > > Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA because the > ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said. > > Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not to include credit-card companies. > > "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the blind access > to credit cards. 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Deeley) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:37:42 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G In-Reply-To: <20091003150639.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> References: <20091003150639.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <21D4C111664E45A8A60E9576EE14582E@StevePC> Wow, even blind lawyers are stupid!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "ray wayne" To: ; Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile! > Ray Wayne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: , "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > > Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36 > Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > >> >> >> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G >> >> By STEPHANIE FARR >> Philadelphia Daily News >> >> farrs at phillynews.com >> 215-854-4225 >> >> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is >> hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a >> Philadelphia >> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week. >> >> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he >> says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600. >> >> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged >> violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had >> not sufficiently >> protected its blind customers. >> >> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said >> yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal. >> >> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that >> she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a >> prostitute >> or that she had defrauded his credit card. >> >> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched >> her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual >> advances, >> according to court documents. >> >> That case also was dismissed. >> >> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims >> to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site. >> >> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six >> months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour. >> >> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a >> receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon >> amount >> - usually $750 for two hours. >> >> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case >> $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," >> according >> to court records. >> >> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days >> that did not use her services. >> >> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him >> his credit-card bill. >> >> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take >> any action, court documents said. >> >> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that >> Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers >> to use >> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants. >> >> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a >> prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at >> providing personal, >> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set >> rate," according to court documents. >> >> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated >> that those services were prostitution, court documents said. >> >> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about >> using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't >> bother >> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, >> is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the >> disciplinary >> board." >> >> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" >> using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women. >> >> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going >> to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind >> men." >> >> He said that he had the chutzpah >> to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her >> pay." >> >> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too >> embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said. >> >> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, >> actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court >> documents. >> >> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the >> case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, >> William Reil, >> who did not return calls for comment. >> >> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates >> lessons were "ridiculous." >> >> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said. >> >> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone >> do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do." >> >> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' >> claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed >> charges because >> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted >> a breach of the card-member agreement. >> >> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities >> Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public >> accommodation." >> >> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: >> "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA >> because the >> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said. >> >> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not >> to include credit-card companies. >> >> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words >> expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the >> blind access >> to credit cards. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.2/2408 - Release Date: 10/01/09 18:23:00 From mikefry79 at gmail.com Sat Oct 3 17:47:05 2009 From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:47:05 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G In-Reply-To: <21D4C111664E45A8A60E9576EE14582E@StevePC> References: <20091003150639.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> <21D4C111664E45A8A60E9576EE14582E@StevePC> Message-ID: <8c58e54a0910031047x1c34862dv2cddb09558fc26db@mail.gmail.com> He should be able to recover against that lady, I think. On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Steve P. Deeley wrote: > Wow, even blind lawyers are stupid!! > ----- Original Message ----- From: "ray wayne" > To: ; > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:06 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > > > > The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile! >> Ray Wayne >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rod Alcidonis" >> To: , "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >> >> Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36 >> Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G >> >> >>> >>> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G >>> >>> By STEPHANIE FARR >>> Philadelphia Daily News >>> >>> farrs at phillynews.com >>> 215-854-4225 >>> >>> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is >>> hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a >>> Philadelphia >>> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week. >>> >>> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he >>> says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600. >>> >>> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged >>> violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had not >>> sufficiently >>> protected its blind customers. >>> >>> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said >>> yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal. >>> >>> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that >>> she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a >>> prostitute >>> or that she had defrauded his credit card. >>> >>> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched >>> her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual >>> advances, >>> according to court documents. >>> >>> That case also was dismissed. >>> >>> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims >>> to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site. >>> >>> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six >>> months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour. >>> >>> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a >>> receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon >>> amount >>> - usually $750 for two hours. >>> >>> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case >>> $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," >>> according >>> to court records. >>> >>> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days >>> that did not use her services. >>> >>> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him >>> his credit-card bill. >>> >>> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take >>> any action, court documents said. >>> >>> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that >>> Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers to >>> use >>> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants. >>> >>> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a >>> prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at >>> providing personal, >>> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set >>> rate," according to court documents. >>> >>> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated >>> that those services were prostitution, court documents said. >>> >>> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about >>> using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't >>> bother >>> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, >>> is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the >>> disciplinary >>> board." >>> >>> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" >>> using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women. >>> >>> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going >>> to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind >>> men." >>> >>> He said that he had the chutzpah >>> to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her >>> pay." >>> >>> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too >>> embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said. >>> >>> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, >>> actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court >>> documents. >>> >>> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the >>> case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, >>> William Reil, >>> who did not return calls for comment. >>> >>> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates >>> lessons were "ridiculous." >>> >>> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said. >>> >>> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone >>> do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do." >>> >>> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' >>> claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed >>> charges because >>> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted >>> a breach of the card-member agreement. >>> >>> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities >>> Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public >>> accommodation." >>> >>> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: >>> "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA >>> because the >>> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said. >>> >>> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not >>> to include credit-card companies. >>> >>> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words >>> expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the >>> blind access >>> to credit cards. If you can be cheated, then you can't use credit cards." >>> >>> Buzz up! >>> Buzz this story. >>> CURRENTLY SHOWING ON PHILLY.COM >>> >>> images/090325_pc_dish_203_kan_1 >>> >>> The Philly Dish: Cooking over a wood fire at Alba >>> >>> images/090923_pc_puc_elvez_1 >>> >>> Philly Uncorked: Spicy Spanish Garnacha >>> >>> images/090922_pc_MOB_Poker100 >>> >>> Mob Scene: Video Poker >>> >>> images/092909-sixr-100 >>> >>> 76ers open training camp >>> >>> images/090911_pc_DTS_Sep_100 >>> >>> Down the Shore: Julie and Emily savor September >>> >>> PEOPLE WHO READ THIS ALSO READ >>> >>> definition list of 5 items >>> Jury awards $100 million to children of slain elderly couple >>> 15-to-30 for killing man who saved his life >>> Pizza-eating police nab three suspected thieves >>> Harry Gross: Wife has inherit rights >>> Convicted drug dealer testifies against friend >>> list end >>> >>> ...disAND BOUGHT: >>> >>> >>> Antibacterial Lotion Soap 800ml Bag... >>> >>> SamsClub.com >>> >>> >>> 52" Philips LCD 1080p HDTV 120hz >>> >>> SamsClub.com >>> >>> >>> Pet Jogger >>> >>> SamsClub.com >>> >>> logos/DiscoveryByPique_TO TO FF >>> >>> list of 4 items >>> Jobs >>> Cars >>> Real Estate >>> Rentals >>> list end >>> >>> Flash movie start >>> System Administrator >>> FEATURED VIDEO: >>> top >>> jobs >>> To View Videos... >>> Sr. Adpe Engineer >>> Unlabeled 7 >>> Please click on a job description to the right. >>> Supervisor >>> Unlabeled 10 >>> Unlabeled 11 >>> Teller Supervisor, Sr Staff Accountant, Bank Operations Accounting Clerk >>> JOB DETAILS >>> Unlabeled 15 >>> Unlabeled 16 >>> Therapist >>> Unlabeled 18 >>> Flash movie end >>> >>> View all Top Jobs thx^^bben) >>> SEARCH JOBS >>> >>> find thx^^bben) >>> Sponsored Links >>> Obama Urges Homeowners to Refinance >>> >>> ($200,000 Refinance under $1,059/mo) See Rates - No Credit Check Req. >>> >>> SeeRefinanceRates.com >>> >>> Obama Wants You to Return to School >>> >>> Get Your Degree Now. 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Deeley Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:38 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G Wow, even blind lawyers are stupid!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "ray wayne" To: ; Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > The moral of the story is pay cash and go mobile! Smile! > Ray Wayne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: , "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > > Date: Saturday, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:36 > Subject: [bllaw] Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G > >> >> >> Blind lawyer: Pro took me for 8G >> >> By STEPHANIE FARR >> Philadelphia Daily News >> >> farrs at phillynews.com >> 215-854-4225 >> >> Whether it was prostitution or Pilates, a blind Delaware County lawyer is >> hoping for a happy ending after his federal civil suit against a >> Philadelphia >> woman and a credit-card company was thrown out last week. >> >> John F. Peoples, 60, was steamed after he learned that the woman who he >> says he hired for sex allegedly overbilled his Discover card by $8,600. >> >> So he sued her for damages and the credit-card company for alleged >> violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that it had >> not sufficiently >> protected its blind customers. >> >> "This wouldn't have happened to a sighted person," Peoples said >> yesterday, adding that he plans to appeal. >> >> In court documents, the woman named in the suit, Ginger Dayle, said that >> she had provided Pilates lessons to Peoples and denied that she was a >> prostitute >> or that she had defrauded his credit card. >> >> She filed a countersuit claiming that Peoples had inappropriately touched >> her butt and that he initiated the lawsuit after she rebuffed his sexual >> advances, >> according to court documents. >> >> That case also was dismissed. >> >> Peoples, 60, of Broomall, who has been legally blind since birth, claims >> to have met Dayle through an escort-services Web site. >> >> He said that he had sessions with her about every other week for six >> months in 2007 at $275 to $375 an hour. >> >> He said that he charged the sessions to his Discover card and signed a >> receipt - which he couldn't see - that Dayle told him had the agreed-upon >> amount >> - usually $750 for two hours. >> >> But on 11 occasions, Dayle actually charged him $1,100 and in one case >> $1,600, "knowing he was blind and could not see he was being tricked," >> according >> to court records. >> >> Peoples also claimed that she had forged his signatures on slips for days >> that did not use her services. >> >> He said that he realized the alleged fraud only when his mother read him >> his credit-card bill. >> >> When Peoples reported the alleged fraud to Discover, it failed to take >> any action, court documents said. >> >> In his suit, he cited the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that >> Discover does not provide "reasonable accommodations" for blind consumers >> to use >> their services without running the risk of being defrauded by merchants. >> >> In his initial complaint, Peoples did not allege that Dayle was a >> prostitute, saying only that she "advertises herself as an expert at >> providing personal, >> hands-on service to individual customers in private sessions at a set >> rate," according to court documents. >> >> It was only during his deposition in October 2008, that he first stated >> that those services were prostitution, court documents said. >> >> When asked during deposition if he ever, as a lawyer, thought twice about >> using a prostitute, he said, according to court documents: "It doesn't >> bother >> me because it doesn't affect my practice of law. Prostitution, I believe, >> is a misdemeanor. Even if convicted, it would not be a problem for the >> disciplinary >> board." >> >> In an interview yesterday, Peoples said that many blind men "get stuck" >> using prostitutes because it's hard to meet women. >> >> "If you go to a singles bar with a stick in your hand, you're not going >> to be attacked by women," he said. "Women aren't too interested in blind >> men." >> >> He said that he had the chutzpah >> to bring the suit because he figured this was the only way to "make her >> pay." >> >> "They figure nobody will do anything to them and people will be too >> embarrassed, and that's why this happens," he said. >> >> Dayle, who bills herself as a fitness instructor, professional dancer, >> actor and an adjunct professor, denied being a prostitute in court >> documents. >> >> When reached yesterday, she declined to comment except to say that the >> case was "bad publicity." She referred all questions to her attorney, >> William Reil, >> who did not return calls for comment. >> >> Peoples said that Dayle's claims that she had provided him with Pilates >> lessons were "ridiculous." >> >> "I have arthritis, diabetes and chronic fatigue syndrome," he said. >> >> In court documents, he said that he was "barely able to walk, let alone >> do Pilates" and that sex is "one of the few exercises I get to do." >> >> In his memorandum, U.S. District Judge Edmund Ludwig dismissed Peoples' >> claim against Discover and said that he couldn't recover his disputed >> charges because >> they were for an illegal and "prohibited transaction," which constituted >> a breach of the card-member agreement. >> >> Ludwig also said in court documents that the Americans with Disabilities >> Act (ADA) did not apply in the case because it refers only to a "public >> accommodation." >> >> Martin C. Bryce Jr., an attorney for Discover on the case, explained: >> "The use of a credit card in this instance did not fall under the ADA >> because the >> ADA applies to places and a credit card is not a place," he said. >> >> Peoples said that he was upset that the statute had been interpreted not >> to include credit-card companies. >> >> "I don't think the people who designed the ADA and put it into words >> expected credit-card companies not to help us," he said. "This denies the >> blind access >> to credit cards. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.2/2408 - Release Date: 10/01/09 18:23:00 _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/james.weisberg%40c omcast.net From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 3 21:10:29 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:10:29 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Hud charges Illinois university with violating Fair Housing Act Message-ID: <7895CB8CB1FC4F7488EC71392FF32F41@spike> HUD Charges? Illinois University with Violating the Fair Housing Act? Thursday, Oct 1, 2009 @10:50am CDT WASHINGTON - The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development today announced that it has charged? Millikin University in Decatur, Illinois with housing discrimination for allegedly refusing to allow a student with epilepsy and blindness to live in a dormitory with her trained service dog. The Fair Housing Act makes it unlawful to refuse to make reasonable accommodations in policies or practices when a person with a disability may require such an accommodation in order be afforded the equal housing opportunity others enjoy. "Having a service animal promotes independent living for many people with disabilities, " said John Trasvia, HUD's Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity. "HUD is committed to making sure colleges and universities promote supportive living environments for people living with disabilities. " HUD brought the charge on behalf of the student who obtained a service dog from a non-profit organization that trained the dog to assist the student in the event of an epileptic seizure. HUD alleges that once the student obtained the service animal, Millikin University banned the student from even entering the dormitory building with the dog, requiring the student to vacate her room if she wanted to keep the animal and commute to school from her parents' home. Later, the university relocated the student to an inaccessible dormitory. The HUD charge will be heard by a United States Administrative Law Judge unless any party to the charge elects to have the case heard in federal district court. If an administrative law judge finds after a hearing that discrimination has occurred, he may award damages to the complainant for her damages as a result of the discrimination. The judge may also order injunctive relief and other equitable relief to deter further discrimination, as well as payment of attorney fees. In addition, the judge may impose civil penalties in order to vindicate the public interest. A federal district court judge may also award punitive damages to the complainant. FHEO and its partners in the Fair Housing Assistance Program investigate approximately 10,500 housing discrimination complaints annually. People who believe they are the victims of housing discrimination should contact HUD at 1-800-669-9777(voice), 800-927-9275 (TTY). Additional information is available at www.hud.gov/fairhousing. http://illinoishomepage.net/content/fulltext /?cid=109371_ From k7uij at panix.com Sun Oct 4 23:30:04 2009 From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:30:04 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv References: Message-ID: <18371BAEE27A4066857C1E4455CCC296@owner96190708e> I find the below highly ironic in that I have never seen the American Diabetes Association show much concern about the *real* issues facing blind diabetics (presumably, the group it would care most about) such as the lack of an accessible insulin pump, the lack of responsiveness of Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk in removing warnings from their insulin pen packaging and inserts that caution against use of insulin pens by the blind or visually impaired without the supervision of a sighted person or the relative paucity of accessible American Diabetes ASsociation literature other than on-line. Mike Freeman, President Diabetes Action Network National Federation of the Blind ----- Original Message ----- From: "James" To: Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: [blindlaw] FW: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv I am posting this at the request of the American Diabetes Society. There was a post last week and the info was incomplete. See below. _____ From: Victoria Thomas [mailto:vthomas at diabetes.org] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 1:38 PM To: james.weisberg at comcast.net Subject: American Diabetes Association post for NFB listserv James, Thanks for your help with this! I drafted a post that is below my signature line. Victoria Thomas ADA - Novo Nordisk Legal Advocacy Fellow American Diabetes Association 1701 North Beauregard Street Alexandria, VA 22311 Tel: (800) 676-4065 ext. 2124 Fax: (703) 549-8748 E-mail: vthomas at diabetes.org www.diabetes.org/discrimination There was a recent message about the American Diabetes Association's upcoming attorney training and attorney network. In addition to training and referrals regarding education discrimination, the attorney training and attorney network also covers employment discrimination. Registration for the conference is still open, see the announcement, below. The program always gets rave reviews and the faculty includes some of the most experienced disability discrimination litigators from around the country. Attorneys who cannot attend the conference are still welcome to join the American Diabetes Association's attorney network, which includes referrals in education, employment, public accommodations, police, and prison discrimination, access to technical assistance in disability discrimination law and an active attorney listserv where disability law information, resources, and questions are frequently posted. You can check out the ADA's attorney materials bank, available at http://www.diabetes.org/advocacy-and-legalresources/attorneymaterials.jsp Still Time To Register Fighting For Fairness 2009: Ending Discrimination Against Students And Workers With Diabetes A few spots remain open for ADA Advocacy Attorney Network members to attend “Fighting For Fairness: Ending Discrimination Against Students and Workers With Diabetes 2009 (FFF2009), a training for attorneys, to take place at the Sheraton Gateway Hotel, Atlanta, GA on October 23-24. The program fee is only $50. CLEs will be offered. This is a terrific opportunity (which has been offered only on a biennial basis) to develop expertise (or build on existing knowledge) regarding diabetes and disability discrimination law. FFF2009 will provide participants will intensive skills building sessions designed to enhance their ability to represent either students or workers with diabetes. Specifically FFF 2009 will include: * Sessions on the impact of the Americans with Disabilities Act Amendments Act (ADAAA) of 2008 on diabetes-related discrimination, proving disability, and defense issues plus discussions of the EEOCs recently posted Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to Implement the ADA Amendments Act of 2008 and EEOC's Questions and Answers on its Proposed Regulations for the ADA Amendments Act make this an important and timely program. * Separate program tracks (6 ½ hours each) focused on diabetes discrimination in employment and school * Practical sessions on how to resolve diabetes discrimination problems * Information on the American Diabetes Association and other resources to assist in diabetes-related litigation To view the FFF 2009 brochure and to register, go to www.diabetes.org/fightingforfairness. Applicants will be accepted on a first-come, first-served basis. Some scholarship funding is available to assist with airfare based upon both the participant's and the ADA's needs. Join us at Fighting For Fairness 2009 and be a part of our campaign to end discrimination against students and workers with diabetes. Contact Steve Bieringer at stevebier at comcast.net or (303) 717-6707 with any questions. American Diabetes Association Cure. Care. Commitment. Visit us at http://diabetes.org Or Call 1-800-DIABETES (800-342-2383) _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com From craig.borne at dot.gov Mon Oct 5 15:11:37 2009 From: craig.borne at dot.gov (craig.borne at dot.gov) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:11:37 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: DC: Job open to Aide Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor-DEADLINE: October 7, 2009 (close of business) Message-ID: <61017FCC3706464B8ACB770A8038174E75E72E@OSTMAIL03VS3.ad.dot.gov> ________________________________ Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: FW: DC: Job open to Aide Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor-DEADLINE: October 7, 2009 (close of business) Friends, This looks like an exciting opportunity to pass on to our networks. JOB VACANCY POSITION: Aide to Sonia Sotomayor's Chambers (1-yr appointment with possible 1-year extension) DESCRIPTION: Responsibilities include intake, tracking, retrieval and disposal of case-related documents; preparing cert lists detailing various assignments; filing correspondence on argued cases; photocopying; messenger services within and outside the building as assigned; assisting with basic secretarial duties; assisting the Justice as requested; and occasional driving duties. QUALIFICATIONS: Highly motivated, detail-oriented individual. High school diploma, Microsoft Office skills, driver's license, good driving record, and knowledge of DC and surrounding areas required. College degree and prior work experience in a busy environment strongly preferred. Fluency in speaking, reading and writing Spanish strongly preferred. Employment is subject to successful completion of a security background check. SALARY: From SCP-6/1 ($37,084) to SCP-7 ($41,210 to $53,574) (SCP-7 is the Full Performance Level) DEADLINE: October 7, 2009 (close of business) TO APPLY, please FAX to the Supreme Court of the United States at 202-479-3076 the following required forms: * OF-306 - Declaration for Federal Employment* * OF-612 - Optional Application for Federal Employment*, along with * Resume and Cover Letter Phone Number: 202-479-3404 *Optional Forms 306 and 612 can be obtained from www.usajobs. opm.gov . . From roddj12 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 6 13:38:09 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:38:09 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Labeling and keeping docs in order: anyone using the new Penfriend device. In-Reply-To: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E1D9@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> References: <839F18076C66C345BD1C0A4ACA67A1F60413E1D9@dhsexcmsg12.intra.dhs.ca.gov> Message-ID: I just heard of this new device -- I wanted to further investigate it before I go and make the purchase. It is called the Penfriend, available on the Independent Living Aides website. It is a labeling device, similar to a barcode device, but you record your voice to each lable. I think this can be used to organize documents/client files, exhibits, etc.Can anyone share some info on this please if you are currently using it in your practice? Take care. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS)" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:49 AM To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Subject: [blindlaw] (no subject) > Test Please ignore, I am just testing a distribution rule. > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Oct 6 20:26:31 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:26:31 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT Message-ID: ________________________________ From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM To: Nightingale, Noel Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT Importance: High From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT Importance: High ________________________________ From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT Importance: High Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM Subject: Requested Assistance I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position Description for the ECRB Manager position. Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position. Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama Diversity Programs Administrator Office of Equal Opportunity Washington State Department of Transportation Office: (360) 705-7096 BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 Fax: (360) 705-6801 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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To learn more, visit http://www.google.com/friendconnect From kdbenterprises at yahoo.com Tue Oct 6 20:37:26 2009 From: kdbenterprises at yahoo.com (kdbenterprises at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:37:26 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] kdb invites you to check out Hollywood Beach Fl blog Message-ID: <001485eba8a0c47f4404754a32ea@google.com> I'm following Hollywood Beach Fl blog and think you'll be interested in it as well. To check it out, follow the link below: http://hollywoodbeachflblog.blogspot.com/?psinvite=ALRopfXJZPhQHXxo7XvXvst9dKN_4y498dhZIiYyyR0hEwiQQnKeODPx5LIw910WUAJwT805XvhAJUvyLVIDjUKY0jmNvhHY_g ----- Google Friend Connect helps people with common interests discover interesting sites and interesting people. To learn more, visit http://www.google.com/friendconnect From kdbenterprises at yahoo.com Wed Oct 7 17:21:40 2009 From: kdbenterprises at yahoo.com (kdb) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] [B P T] Fw:Where is the class action suit on this one?? Pass the BUTTER PLEASE.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17110.95084.qm@web57305.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Sounds like a simple solution- my idea is to have our Gov. get it off our market shelves please and assemble the class action suit. Pass The Butter .. Please. >This is interesting . . . >Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys. When it killed >the turkeys, the people who had put all the money into the research wanted >a payback so they put their heads together to figure out what to do with >this product to get their money back. It was a white substance with no food >appeal so they added the yellow coloring and sold it to people to use in >place of butter. How do you like it? They have come out with some clever >new flavorings.. > >DO YOU KNOW.. the difference between margarine and butter? >Read on to the end...gets very interesting! > >Both have the same amount of calories.. >Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5 >grams. >Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over >eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard Medical Study. >Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other >foods. >Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few >only because they are added! >Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavors of >other foods. >Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for >less than 100 years . > >And now, for Margarine.. > >Very high in Trans fatty acids. >Triple risk of coronary heart disease . >Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and >lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol) >Increases the risk of cancers up to five fold.. >Lowers quality of breast milk. >Decreases immune response. >Decreases insulin response. > >And here's the most disturbing fact.... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY >INTERESTING! > >Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC.. > >This fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and >anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the >molecular structure of the substance). > >You can try this yourself: > >Purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your garage or shaded area.. >Within a couple of days you will note a couple of things: >* no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that >should tell you something) >* it does not rot or smell differently because it has no nutritional >value ; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny weeny microorganisms will >not a find a home to grow. Why? Because it is nearly plastic . Would you >melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast? > >Pass the BUTTER PLEASE.. > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >__._,_.___ >Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic >Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar > >Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) >Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional >Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity >Visit Your Group >Give Back >Yahoo! for Good > >Get inspired > >by a good cause. > >Y! Toolbar >Get it Free! > >easy 1-click access > >to your groups. > >Yahoo! Groups >Start a group > >in 3 easy steps. > >Connect with others. >. > >__,_._,___ >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >_______________________________________________ >Blind-positive-thinkers mailing list >Blind-positive-thinkers at raineemusic.com >http://raineemusic.com/mailman/listinfo/blind-positive-thinkers_raineemusic.com > From JFreeh at nfb.org Thu Oct 8 02:06:55 2009 From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh, Jessica) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:06:55 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind Announces Dr. Jacob Bolotin Awards Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Chris Danielsen Director of Public Relations National Federation of the Blind (410) 659-9314, extension 2330 (410) 262-1281 (Cell) cdanielsen at nfb.org National Federation of the Blind Announces Dr. Jacob Bolotin Awards National Federation of the Blind to Award $50,000 in 2010 Baltimore, Maryland (October 7, 2009): The National Federation of the Blind today announced that applications are now being accepted for the 2010 Dr. Jacob Bolotin Award Program. Each year the National Federation of the Blind presents cash awards to individuals and organizations that have made outstanding contributions toward achieving the full integration of the blind into society on a basis of equality. Dr. Jacob Bolotin was a blind physician who lived and practiced in Chicago in the early twentieth century. He was widely known and respected in Chicago and throughout the Midwest during his career, which spanned the period from 1912 until his untimely death at the age of thirty-six in 1924. He was particularly recognized for his expertise on diseases of the heart and lungs. Bolotin used his many public speaking engagements to advocate for the employment of the blind and their full integration into society. Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: "Dr. Jacob Bolotin was a pioneer who overcame low expectations and discrimination to become a renowned member of the medical profession without the benefit of the support services and civil rights protections available to blind people today. He was also a fierce advocate for greater opportunity for the blind in his time, and doubtless would have been a leader in the organized blind movement had he lived to see it come into being. The Jacob Bolotin Award Program celebrates his pioneering spirit by recognizing and supporting outstanding programs, technologies, and individual efforts that promote independence and opportunity for blind Americans." Recipients of the 2010 Dr. Jacob Bolotin Awards will be determined by the Dr. Jacob Bolotin Award Committee of the National Federation of the Blind. Online applications are due by April 15, 2010. Individuals or organizations are encouraged to apply on behalf of themselves or others. The award recipients will be announced at the 2010 National Federation of the Blind Convention in Dallas. A total of $50,000 will be distributed to the award recipients. The Jacob Bolotin Award Program is funded through the generosity of Dr. Bolotin's nephew and niece, Alfred and Rosalind Pearlman. In addition to establishing the Alfred and Rosalind Pearlman Trust to endow the awards, the late Mrs. Pearlman also wrote The Blind Doctor: The Jacob Bolotin Story. The book has been published by Blue Point Books and can be ordered directly from the publisher at www.bluepointbooks.com. Proceeds from book sales will also benefit the award program. For more information or to fill out the online application, please visit www.nfb.org. ### About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. Please visit our Web site: www.nfb.org. From roddj12 at hotmail.com Thu Oct 8 14:11:06 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:11:06 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their results. I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. I need a beer now! Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nightingale, Noel" Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM To: ; ; Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > > ________________________________ > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > To: Nightingale, Noel > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > > > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > ________________________________ > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > Subject: Requested Assistance > I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT > Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager > position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the > ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position > Description for the ECRB Manager position. > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. > Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency > Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in > hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a > work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I > am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and > transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. > > Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested > candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please > contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my > commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive > networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the > ECRB Manager position. > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > Diversity Programs Administrator > Office of Equal Opportunity > Washington State Department of Transportation > Office: (360) 705-7096 > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From bspiry at comcast.net Thu Oct 8 15:08:49 2009 From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:08:49 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congrats dude! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their results. I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. I need a beer now! Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nightingale, Noel" Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM To: ; ; Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > > ________________________________ > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > To: Nightingale, Noel > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > > > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > ________________________________ > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > Subject: Requested Assistance > I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT > Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager > position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the > ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position > Description for the ECRB Manager position. > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. > Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency > Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in > hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a > work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I > am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and > transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. > > Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested > candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please > contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my > commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive > networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the > ECRB Manager position. > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > Diversity Programs Administrator > Office of Equal Opportunity > Washington State Department of Transportation > Office: (360) 705-7096 > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n et No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 06:50:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 06:50:00 From mhanson at winternet.com Thu Oct 8 15:22:25 2009 From: mhanson at winternet.com (Michael O. Hanson) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:22:25 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! References: Message-ID: <5D825D82915A47C8B307587620CD5796@hp048378e4c43a> Good for you. You've earned that beer! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their > results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this > process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; ; > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >> To: Nightingale, Noel >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> >> >> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >> Subject: Requested Assistance >> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has >> a work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, >> I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's >> and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >> >> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for >> the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >> Diversity Programs Administrator >> Office of Equal Opportunity >> Washington State Department of Transportation >> Office: (360) 705-7096 >> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >> >> >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mhanson%40winternet.com > From k7uij at panix.com Thu Oct 8 15:26:21 2009 From: k7uij at panix.com (Mike Freeman) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:26:21 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! References: Message-ID: Bravo, Rod! Way to go! Mike Freeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their results. I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. I need a beer now! Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nightingale, Noel" Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM To: ; ; Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > > ________________________________ > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > To: Nightingale, Noel > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > > > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > ________________________________ > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > Subject: Requested Assistance > I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT > Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) > Manager > position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired > after > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the > ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position > Description for the ECRB Manager position. > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within > ECRB. > Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency > Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment > in > hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that > has a > work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, > I > am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's > and > transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. > > Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of > interested > candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please > contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm > my > commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with > extensive > networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for > the > ECRB Manager position. > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > Diversity Programs Administrator > Office of Equal Opportunity > Washington State Department of Transportation > Office: (360) 705-7096 > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com From dfrye at nfb.org Thu Oct 8 15:45:39 2009 From: dfrye at nfb.org (Dan Frye) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:45:39 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! Message-ID: Rod: Congratulations! With Kind Regards, Daniel B. Frye Office: (410) 659-9314, Ext 2208 Mobile: (410) 241-7006 Note: This message has been issued remotely from the Braille Note. > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Date sent: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:11:06 -0400 >Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! >Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their >results. >I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process >since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. >I need a beer now! >Rod Alcidonis, J.D. >C. 718-704-4651 >roddj12 at hotmail.com >"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >Houston >-------------------------------------------------- >From: "Nightingale, Noel" Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM >To: ; ; Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> ________________________________ >> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >> To: Nightingale, Noel >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> ________________________________ >> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >> Subject: Requested Assistance >> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a >> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I >> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and >> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the >> ECRB Manager position. >> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >> Diversity Programs Administrator >> Office of Equal Opportunity >> Washington State Department of Transportation >> Office: (360) 705-7096 >> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12 %40hotmail.com >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dfrye%4 0nfb.org From brandon.mcginty at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 16:04:41 2009 From: brandon.mcginty at gmail.com (brandon mcginty) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:04:41 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com> Excellent. Congratulations. Sincerely, Brandon McGinty On 10/8/09, Bill Spiry wrote: > Congrats dude! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania > barexam! > > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their > results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process > since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; ; > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >> To: Nightingale, Noel >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> >> >> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >> Subject: Requested Assistance >> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a > >> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I >> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and >> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >> >> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the > >> ECRB Manager position. >> >> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >> Diversity Programs Administrator >> Office of Equal Opportunity >> Washington State Department of Transportation >> Office: (360) 705-7096 >> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >> >> >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n > et > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 > 06:50:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 > 06:50:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brandon.mcginty%40gmail.com > From roddj12 at hotmail.com Thu Oct 8 16:59:39 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:59:39 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabarexam! In-Reply-To: <3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com> References: <3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks guys for all of the nice words. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "brandon mcginty" Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:04 PM To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabarexam! > Excellent. Congratulations. > > Sincerely, > Brandon McGinty > > > On 10/8/09, Bill Spiry wrote: >> Congrats dude! >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >> Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis >> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM >> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania >> barexam! >> >> Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their >> results. >> >> I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this >> process >> since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. >> >> I need a beer now! >> >> Rod Alcidonis, J.D. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Nightingale, Noel" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM >> To: ; ; >> Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >>> To: Nightingale, Noel >>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>> Importance: High >>> >>> >>> >>> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >>> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>> Importance: High >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >>> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>> Importance: High >>> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >>> Subject: Requested Assistance >>> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >>> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >>> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >>> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >>> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >>> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >>> >>> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >>> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >>> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >>> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >>> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has >>> a >> >>> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I >>> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and >>> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >>> >>> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >>> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >>> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >>> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >>> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for >>> the >> >>> ECRB Manager position. >>> >>> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >>> Diversity Programs Administrator >>> Office of Equal Opportunity >>> Washington State Department of Transportation >>> Office: (360) 705-7096 >>> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >>> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. >> com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n >> et >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 >> 06:50:00 >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 >> 06:50:00 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brandon.mcginty%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 8 16:58:33 2009 From: william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com (William ODonnell) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <243706.60606.qm@web30905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am glad to here that. I knew you would achieve this. --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Rod Alcidonis wrote: > From: Rod Alcidonis > Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:11 AM > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now > waiting for New Jerseyto released their results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me > in this process since the beginning. This is a remarkable > guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - > Charles Hamilton Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; > ; > > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at > DOT > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > > To: Nightingale, Noel > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > > > > > > > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > > Subject: Requested Assistance > > I am asking for your help to identify viable > candidates for the WSDOT Office of Equal Opportunity > External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager position that > has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned > copies of the ECRB  job announcement and the current > WMS Band 3 Management Position Description for the ECRB > Manager position. > > > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates > from within ECRB. Because of the importance of the ECRB > Manager position to the agency Brenda Nnambi was given > permission to conduct an external recruitment in hopes of > attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a > candidate that has a work background that matches all the > essential areas for the position, I am confident that there > are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and > transferable work experiences who would make excellent > candidates. > > > > Anything you can do to get our information into the > hands of interested candidates would really be appreciated! > If you have questions please contact  me or > Brenda.  I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm > my commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks > with extensive networks themselves who may be able to help > us identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position. > > > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > > Diversity Programs Administrator > > Office of Equal Opportunity > > Washington State Department of Transportation > > Office: (360) 705-7096 > > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for blindlaw: > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/william.odonnell1%40yahoo.com > From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Thu Oct 8 17:58:29 2009 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:58:29 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabarexam! References: Message-ID: >From 2,000 miles across one pond to many, hearty congratulations to you Rod for your success with the Pennsylvania Bar Exam! May you find the practice of law a very rewarding career and the Good Lord bless you as you get settled in the profession! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From roddj12 at hotmail.com Thu Oct 8 20:12:50 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:12:50 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed thePennsylvaniabarexam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Olusegun: Thanks thanks thanks. Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:58 PM To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed thePennsylvaniabarexam! >>From 2,000 miles across one pond to many, hearty congratulations to you >>Rod > for your success with the Pennsylvania Bar Exam! May you find the > practice of law a very rewarding career and the Good Lord bless you as you > get settled in the profession! > > Sincerely, > Olusegun > Denver, Colorado > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From jsorozco at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 20:59:00 2009 From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:59:00 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabar exam! In-Reply-To: <243706.60606.qm@web30905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <12C53ED0D7EC419096AD52575DA916F6@Rufus> Damn, one more liar, ahem, lawyer to add to the mix? Haha, kidding man. Congratulations. You do everyone proud. Joe Orozco "A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the crowd."--Max Lucado -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William ODonnell Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:59 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabar exam! I am glad to here that. I knew you would achieve this. --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Rod Alcidonis wrote: > From: Rod Alcidonis > Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:11 AM Yes, I did it! I passed. I > am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this > process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles > Hamilton Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; > ; > > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > > To: Nightingale, Noel > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > > > > > > > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > Please send out to the list.  Thanks, Dan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > > Subject: Requested Assistance > > I am asking for your help to identify viable > candidates for the WSDOT Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil > Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager position that has been vacant since July > 1 when Jim Medina retired after > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned > copies of the ECRB  job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 > Management Position Description for the ECRB Manager position. > > > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates > from within ECRB. Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager > position to the agency Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct > an external recruitment in hopes of attracting candidates with the > skill sets needed for the position. Although it is unlikely that we > will find a candidate that has a work background that matches all the > essential areas for the position, I am confident that there are > seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and transferable work > experiences who would make excellent candidates. > > > > Anything you can do to get our information into the > hands of interested candidates would really be appreciated! > If you have questions please contact  me or Brenda.  I have copied > Brenda on this email to confirm my commitment to her to use my network > to reach out to folks with extensive networks themselves who may be > able to help us identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position. > > > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > > Diversity Programs Administrator > > Office of Equal Opportunity > > Washington State Department of Transportation > > Office: (360) 705-7096 > > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > blindlaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your > account info for blindlaw: > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40 > > hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/william.odon > nell1%40yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jsoroz co%40gmail.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4491 (20091008) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4491 (20091008) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 21:51:54 2009 From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:51:54 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabarexam! References: Message-ID: <00a301ca4861$8de08690$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62> Great! Congratulations. Best Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Spiry" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabarexam! > Congrats dude! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania > barexam! > > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their > results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this > process > since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; ; > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >> To: Nightingale, Noel >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> >> >> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >> Subject: Requested Assistance >> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has >> a > >> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I >> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and >> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >> >> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for >> the > >> ECRB Manager position. >> >> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >> Diversity Programs Administrator >> Office of Equal Opportunity >> Washington State Department of Transportation >> Office: (360) 705-7096 >> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >> >> >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n > et > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 > 06:50:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 > 06:50:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/craigspencer2.0%40gmail.com From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Thu Oct 8 22:58:04 2009 From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:58:04 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091008225804.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> Congratulations, Rod. I didn't really do anything; you did all the hard work. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Date: Thursday, Oct 8, 2009 10:58:34 Subject: [bllaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! > > > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their > results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process > since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." �� Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; ; > Subject: [bllaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > > To: Nightingale, Noel > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > > > > > > > From: ESAID GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > Importance: High > > Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > > Subject: Requested Assistance > > I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT > > Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager > > position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after > > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the > > ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position > > Description for the ECRB Manager position. > > > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. > > Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency > > Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in > > hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the > > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a > > work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I > > am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and > > transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. > > > > Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested > > candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please > > contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my > > commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive > > networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the > > ECRB Manager position. > > > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > > Diversity Programs Administrator > > Office of Equal Opportunity > > Washington State Department of Transportation > > Office: (360) 705-7096 > > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > bllaw mailing list > > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > bllaw: > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for bllaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com From langlois2 at verizon.net Fri Oct 9 02:10:39 2009 From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:10:39 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! References: Message-ID: <84B89E58707E4D5C92FB89B9EB47BC2E@barney03> Congratulations, Rod! Best wishes in your future endeavours! brian Langlois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:11 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania bar exam! > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their > results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this > process > since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; ; > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >> To: Nightingale, Noel >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> >> >> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >> Subject: Requested Assistance >> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has >> a >> work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I >> am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and >> transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >> >> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for >> the >> ECRB Manager position. >> >> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >> Diversity Programs Administrator >> Office of Equal Opportunity >> Washington State Department of Transportation >> Office: (360) 705-7096 >> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >> >> >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/langlois2%40verizon.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.8/2423 - Release Date: 10/08/09 18:33:00 From cdanielsen8 at aol.com Fri Oct 9 09:56:49 2009 From: cdanielsen8 at aol.com (Chris Danielsen) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:56:49 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C1B8E200C0541B0A497CA578F693C4E@Scorpio13> Congratulations Rod! Chris -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:11 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their results. I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. I need a beer now! Rod Alcidonis, J.D. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nightingale, Noel" Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM To: ; ; Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > > > ________________________________ > From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM > To: Nightingale, Noel > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > > > From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM > To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > > ________________________________ > From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM > Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > Importance: High > Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM > Subject: Requested Assistance > I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT > Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) > Manager position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina > retired after > 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the > ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position > Description for the ECRB Manager position. > > Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. > Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency > Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment > in hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the > position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that > has a work background that matches all the essential areas for the > position, I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of > the KSA's and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. > > Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of > interested candidates would really be appreciated! If you have > questions please contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this > email to confirm my commitment to her to use my network to reach out > to folks with extensive networks themselves who may be able to help us > identify candidates for the ECRB Manager position. > > Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama > Diversity Programs Administrator > Office of Equal Opportunity > Washington State Department of Transportation > Office: (360) 705-7096 > BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 > Fax: (360) 705-6801 > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40ho > tmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdanielsen8%40aol. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4492 (20091009) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4492 (20091009) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From womankind at earthlink.net Fri Oct 9 13:35:49 2009 From: womankind at earthlink.net (Stephanie Ortoleva) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:35:49 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvaniabarexam! In-Reply-To: References: <3adf83640910080904o5e9d726eu121084f191ac2b78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Fantastic!At 12:59 PM 10/8/2009, you wrote: >Thanks guys for all of the nice words. > > >Rod Alcidonis, J.D. >C. 718-704-4651 >roddj12 at hotmail.com >"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >Hamilton Houston > >-------------------------------------------------- >From: "brandon mcginty" >Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:04 PM >To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the >Pennsylvaniabarexam! > >>Excellent. Congratulations. >> >>Sincerely, >>Brandon McGinty >> >> >>On 10/8/09, Bill Spiry wrote: >>>Congrats dude! >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >>>Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis >>>Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:11 AM >>>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >>>Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania >>>barexam! >>> >>>Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their >>>results. >>> >>>I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this process >>>since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. >>> >>>I need a beer now! >>> >>>Rod Alcidonis, J.D. >>>C. 718-704-4651 >>>roddj12 at hotmail.com >>>"A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >>>Houston >>> >>>-------------------------------------------------- >>>From: "Nightingale, Noel" >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM >>>To: ; ; >>>Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>________________________________ >>>>From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >>>>Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >>>>To: Nightingale, Noel >>>>Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>>>Importance: High >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >>>>Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >>>>To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >>>>Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>>>Importance: High >>>> >>>>________________________________ >>>>From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >>>>Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >>>>Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >>>>Importance: High >>>>Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >>>>Subject: Requested Assistance >>>>I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >>>>Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >>>>position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >>>>36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >>>>ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >>>>Description for the ECRB Manager position. >>>> >>>>Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >>>>Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >>>>Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >>>>hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >>>>position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has a >>> >>>>work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, I >>>>am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's and >>>>transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >>>> >>>>Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >>>>candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >>>>contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >>>>commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >>>>networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for the >>> >>>>ECRB Manager position. >>>> >>>>Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >>>>Diversity Programs Administrator >>>>Office of Equal Opportunity >>>>Washington State Department of Transportation >>>>Office: (360) 705-7096 >>>>BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >>>>Fax: (360) 705-6801 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>blindlaw mailing list >>>>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>blindlaw: >>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. >>>com >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>blindlaw mailing list >>>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>blindlaw: >>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n >>>et >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 >>>06:50:00 >>> >>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2417 - Release Date: 10/06/09 >>>06:50:00 >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>blindlaw mailing list >>>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>blindlaw: >>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brandon.mcginty%40gmail.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>blindlaw mailing list >>blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>for blindlaw: >>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > >_______________________________________________ >blindlaw mailing list >blindlaw at nfbnet.org >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >for blindlaw: >http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/womankind%40earthlink.net From rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 10 03:26:22 2009 From: rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net ( Rob Tabor) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:26:22 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! References: Message-ID: <4776CC820D8A4C00B2F8C7FFA6CCAAF5@Rob> Two thumbs up for you, Rod! If you pass both PA and NJ bar exams you not have only earned a beer; you've earned a whole case, so drink up! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Rod is now an attorney: I passed the Pennsylvania barexam! > Yes, I did it! I passed. I am now waiting for New Jerseyto released their > results. > > I want to publicly thank Ray Wayne, for having been with me in this > process since the beginning. This is a remarkable guy. Thanks, Ray. > > I need a beer now! > > Rod Alcidonis, J.D. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nightingale, Noel" > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM > To: ; ; > Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT > >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Noel Nightingale [mailto:nnightingale at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:03 AM >> To: Nightingale, Noel >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> >> >> From: ESD GP GCDE-INFO [mailto:GCDE-INFO at ESD.WA.GOV] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 PM >> To: GCDE-INFO at LISTSERV.WA.GOV >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Dan Eberle [mailto:deberle at bates.ctc.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:49 PM >> Subject: FW: Civil Rights Manager Position at DOT >> Importance: High >> Please send out to the list. Thanks, Dan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mendoza de Sugiyama, Margarita >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:45 PM >> Subject: Requested Assistance >> I am asking for your help to identify viable candidates for the WSDOT >> Office of Equal Opportunity External Civil Rights Branch (ECRB) Manager >> position that has been vacant since July 1 when Jim Medina retired after >> 36+ years with state government. I have attached scanned copies of the >> ECRB job announcement and the current WMS Band 3 Management Position >> Description for the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Just so you know, there are no promotional candidates from within ECRB. >> Because of the importance of the ECRB Manager position to the agency >> Brenda Nnambi was given permission to conduct an external recruitment in >> hopes of attracting candidates with the skill sets needed for the >> position. Although it is unlikely that we will find a candidate that has >> a work background that matches all the essential areas for the position, >> I am confident that there are seasoned managers with some of the KSA's >> and transferable work experiences who would make excellent candidates. >> >> Anything you can do to get our information into the hands of interested >> candidates would really be appreciated! If you have questions please >> contact me or Brenda. I have copied Brenda on this email to confirm my >> commitment to her to use my network to reach out to folks with extensive >> networks themselves who may be able to help us identify candidates for >> the ECRB Manager position. >> >> Margarita Mendoza de Sugiyama >> Diversity Programs Administrator >> Office of Equal Opportunity >> Washington State Department of Transportation >> Office: (360) 705-7096 >> BlackBerry: (360) 791-6225 >> Fax: (360) 705-6801 >> >> >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rob.tabor%40sbcglobal.net From mike.sandi at comcast.net Sun Oct 11 15:34:50 2009 From: mike.sandi at comcast.net (Mike Groat) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:34:50 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device. It is quite impressive. The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes. Then a voice note is made for that label number. The labels can be reused for recording purposes. For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well. From cdborne at gmail.com Sun Oct 11 16:49:43 2009 From: cdborne at gmail.com (Craig Borne) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:49:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This sounds great. Does anyone have a link to the product for sale? Craig -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Groat Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:35 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device. It is quite impressive. The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes. Then a voice note is made for that label number. The labels can be reused for recording purposes. For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well. _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdborne%40gmail.co m From timandvickie at hotmail.com Sun Oct 11 18:06:20 2009 From: timandvickie at hotmail.com (Tim Shaw) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:06:20 +0000 Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Independent Living has it for $139.00 here is the link: http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=756610 > From: cdborne at gmail.com > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:49:43 -0400 > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device > > This sounds great. Does anyone have a link to the product for sale? > Craig > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Groat > Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:35 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device > > I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device. It > is quite impressive. The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes. > Then a voice note is made for that label number. The labels can be reused > for recording purposes. > > For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdborne%40gmail.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/timandvickie%40hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ From cdborne at gmail.com Sun Oct 11 18:32:12 2009 From: cdborne at gmail.com (cdborne at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1486326016-1255285931-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1304185756-@bda883.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Thank you craig Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Tim Shaw Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:06:20 To: Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device Independent Living has it for $139.00 here is the link: http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=756610 > From: cdborne at gmail.com > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:49:43 -0400 > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device > > This sounds great. Does anyone have a link to the product for sale? > Craig > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Groat > Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:35 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Subject: [blindlaw] Penfriend Labeling device > > I have seen a hands-on demonstration of the Penfriend labeling device. It > is quite impressive. The labels are number coded which the pen recognizes. > Then a voice note is made for that label number. The labels can be reused > for recording purposes. > > For labeling purposes such as case files, this could work quite well. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdborne%40gmail.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/timandvickie%40hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdborne%40gmail.com From jsorozco at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 22:21:31 2009 From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:21:31 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: EXCEL! - FYI Message-ID: >From Olivia Claverie > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > Date: September 24, 2009 > FOR INFORMATION CONTACT: > DBTAC National Network of ADA Centers 1-800-949-4232 > PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS > The public has been given 60 days to comment on proposed revisions to > regulations implementing the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 ( > ADA), as amended by the ADA Amendments Act of 2008. The regulatory > changes, contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking just announced > by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), focuses on providing individuals seeking protection against employment discrimination under Title I of the ADA with a more expansive definition of "disability. " Written comments must be submitted on or before November 23, 2009. > The ADA is an antidiscrimination statute passed by Congress and signed > into law by the President in July 1990. The EEOC is responsible for > enforcing Title I of the ADA , which prohibits employment discrimination against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires employers to make reasonable accommodations to employees and job applicants with disabilities. > "We encourage the public to submit comments directly to the EEOC." > "People with disabilities will be the winners when the new regulations are fully implemented and extensive public comment will ensure they are the best that they can be." > The ADA Amendments Act, which went into effect Jan. 1, 2009, and the > regulatory revisions embedded in the proposed rule now available for > public comment, makes it easier for an individual alleging employment > discrimination based on disability to establish that he or she meets > the ADA's definitions of "disability. " The ADA Amendments Act also > modifies the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibits employment discrimination in the federal workforce on the basis of disability. > The regulatory changes in the proposed rule emphasize that the > definition of disability-an impairment that poses a substantial > limitation in a major life activity-must be construed in favor of broad coverage of individuals to the maximum extent permitted by the terms of the ADA, and should not require extensive analysis. > The regulatory changes expand major life activities to include "major > bodily functions, and clarify that mitigating measures, such as medications and devices that people use to reduce or eliminate the effects of impairment, are not to be considered when determining whether a person has a disability. They also clarify that impairments that are episodic or in remission, such as epilepsy, cancer, and many kinds of psychiatric impairments, are disabilities if they would "substantially limit" major life activities when active. > Finally, the regulation revisions provide a more straightforward way > of demonstrating a substantial limitation in the major life activity > of working, and implements the ADA Amendment Act's new standard for > determining whether someone is regarded as having a disability. > The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking containing the regulatory changes is > posted on the EEOC website, > http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html > > along with a question-and-answer guide about the proposal and instructions for submitting public comments to the Commission. You Can Submit Comments by Mail, Fax and Electronically, Here's How: > Written comments should be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive > Officer, Executive Secretariat, Equal Employment Opportunity > Commission, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC 20507. > Comments submitted by fax. As a convenience to commenters, the > Executive Secretariat will accept comments transmitted by facsimile > (``FAX'') machine. The telephone number of the FAX receiver is (202) > 663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or > fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal to ensure access to > the equipment. Receipt of FAX transmittals will not be acknowledged, > except that the sender may request confirmation of receipt by calling > the Executive Secretariat staff at (202)663-4070 (voice) or (202) > 663-4074 (TTY). (These are not toll-free telephone numbers.) > Comments submitted electronically You may also submit comments and > attachments electronically at http://www.regulations.gov > , which is the Federal eRulemaking Portal. > Follow the instructions online for submitting comments. Copies of > comments submitted by the public will be available for review at the > Commission's library, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R , Washington, DC > 20507 , between the hours of 9:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. or can be reviewed > at http://www.regulations.gov __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4504 (20091013) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4504 (20091013) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From rumpole at roadrunner.com Wed Oct 14 21:27:10 2009 From: rumpole at roadrunner.com (Ross Doerr) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:27:10 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: EXCEL! - FYI References: Message-ID: <33E19519A81441C0961EDFA34D9038B5@none8a46117901> Regarding the EEOC proposed regulations - I went to the web inks and read through the notice of proposed rulemaking and read through the questions and answers section. Has anyone actually been able to get to the proposed regulations themselves through that web site for the EEOC? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Orozco" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: [blindlaw] FW: EXCEL! - FYI > >From Olivia Claverie > >> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE >> Date: September 24, 2009 > >> FOR INFORMATION CONTACT: >> DBTAC National Network of ADA Centers 1-800-949-4232 > >> PUBLIC COMMENT INVITED ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADA REGULATIONS > >> The public has been given 60 days to comment on proposed revisions to >> regulations implementing the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 ( >> ADA), as amended by the ADA Amendments Act of 2008. The regulatory >> changes, contained in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking just announced >> by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), focuses on > providing individuals seeking protection against employment discrimination > under Title I of the ADA with a more expansive definition of "disability. > " > Written comments must be submitted on or before November 23, 2009. > >> The ADA is an antidiscrimination statute passed by Congress and signed >> into law by the President in July 1990. The EEOC is responsible for >> enforcing Title I of the ADA , which prohibits employment discrimination > against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires employers to make > reasonable accommodations to employees and job applicants with > disabilities. > >> "We encourage the public to submit comments directly to the EEOC." >> "People with disabilities will be the winners when the new regulations >> are > fully implemented and extensive public comment will ensure they are the > best > that they can be." > >> The ADA Amendments Act, which went into effect Jan. 1, 2009, and the >> regulatory revisions embedded in the proposed rule now available for >> public comment, makes it easier for an individual alleging employment >> discrimination based on disability to establish that he or she meets >> the ADA's definitions of "disability. " The ADA Amendments Act also >> modifies the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibits employment > discrimination in the federal workforce on the basis of disability. > >> The regulatory changes in the proposed rule emphasize that the >> definition of disability-an impairment that poses a substantial >> limitation in a major life activity-must be construed in favor of broad > coverage of individuals to the maximum extent permitted by the terms of > the > ADA, and should not require extensive analysis. > >> The regulatory changes expand major life activities to include "major >> bodily functions, and clarify that mitigating measures, such as > medications and devices that people use to reduce or eliminate the effects > of impairment, are not to be considered when determining whether a person > has a disability. They also clarify that impairments that are episodic or > in > remission, such as epilepsy, cancer, and many kinds of psychiatric > impairments, are disabilities if they would "substantially limit" major > life > activities when active. > >> Finally, the regulation revisions provide a more straightforward way >> of demonstrating a substantial limitation in the major life activity >> of working, and implements the ADA Amendment Act's new standard for >> determining whether someone is regarded as having a disability. > >> The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking containing the regulatory changes is >> posted on the EEOC website, >> http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/amendments_notice.html >> >> along with a question-and-answer guide about the proposal and >> instructions > for submitting public comments to the Commission. > > You Can Submit Comments by Mail, Fax and Electronically, Here's How: >> Written comments should be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive >> Officer, Executive Secretariat, Equal Employment Opportunity >> Commission, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC > 20507. > >> Comments submitted by fax. As a convenience to commenters, the >> Executive Secretariat will accept comments transmitted by facsimile >> (``FAX'') machine. The telephone number of the FAX receiver is (202) >> 663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or >> fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal to ensure access to >> the equipment. Receipt of FAX transmittals will not be acknowledged, >> except that the sender may request confirmation of receipt by calling >> the Executive Secretariat staff at (202)663-4070 (voice) or (202) >> 663-4074 (TTY). (These are not toll-free telephone numbers.) > >> Comments submitted electronically You may also submit comments and >> attachments electronically at http://www.regulations.gov >> , which is the Federal eRulemaking Portal. >> Follow the instructions online for submitting comments. Copies of >> comments submitted by the public will be available for review at the >> Commission's library, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R , Washington, DC >> 20507 , between the hours of 9:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. or can be reviewed >> at > http://www.regulations.gov > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4504 (20091013) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4504 (20091013) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rumpole%40roadrunner.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.15/2434 - Release Date: 10/13/09 19:11:00 From angie.matney at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 01:55:02 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:55:02 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Message-ID: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 16 02:07:58 2009 From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:07:58 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <90AB02BC-C9D1-41DC-B24B-CA3180678F20@sbcglobal.net> Hey, congrats. Was that you I saw whooping it up on Twitter? :) Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 02:22:03 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:22:03 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <008201ca4e07$73f87200$5be95600$@com> Congratulations to everyone who is passing the bar! You are awesome!!! William -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:55 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From CDanielsen at nfb.org Fri Oct 16 02:43:39 2009 From: CDanielsen at nfb.org (Danielsen, Chris) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:43:39 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Presidential Proclamation for White Cane Safety Day Message-ID: Dear Fellow Federationists: Below is the text of this year’s White Cane Safety Day proclamation issued by President Obama. As you will read, the proclamation highlights the importance of Braille literacy. It is clear that our advocacy on this issue is having an impact on policy makers at the highest levels of our government. We continue to accomplish great things for blind Americans. Happy White Cane Safety Day! Sincerely: Chris Danielsen etc. White Cane Safety Day, 2009 By the President of the United States of America A Proclamation All Americans deserve the freedom to participate in every aspect of our society and pursue their full measure of happiness. For blind Americans, the white cane is a potent symbol of that freedom­affording them greater independence and mobility. Today, we renew our commitment to provide full inclusion and equal opportunities for those among us who are blind or have low vision. As Americans, we must nurture a society that values the unique abilities and individual contributions of all its people. Individuals who are blind or have low vision are less constrained and better integrated in our country than ever before, but much work remains to ensure they have the opportunity to reach their full potential. My Administration is committed to securing full and equal access to education and employment for blind Americans and all those with disabilities. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act substantially increased funding for the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, as well as vocational rehabilitation services, including job training, education, and placement. For Americans who are blind or have low vision, a white cane is just one of a wide range of tools that sustain independence and productivity. In recent years, refreshable Braille displays and speech synthesis devices have given these individuals access to the Internet, unlocking a new frontier of limitless possibility. As we encourage the development of new assistive technologies, we must also improve access to existing tools. The Braille code has opened a doorway to literacy for countless individuals, but far too many blind children in our country are not learning to read it. By improving Braille literacy, we will secure a brighter future for these young Americans. In the 45 years since White Cane Safety Day was first proclaimed by President Lyndon Johnson, Americans who are blind or have low vision have achieved substantial progress. As leaders in government and business, academics, and the arts, they have made remarkable contributions to our Nation, proving that sight is no requisite for success. We will continue to strive for a more just and equitable Nation that celebrates diversity in all its forms and promotes the full inclusion of all individuals in our communities. By joint resolution approved on October 6, 1964, (Public Law 88-628, as amended), the Congress designated October 15 of each year as White Cane Safety Day to recognize the contributions of Americans who are blind or have low vision. NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim October 15, 2009, as White Cane Safety Day. I call upon all Americans to observe this day with appropriate ceremonies, activities, and programs. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this fifteenth day of October, in the year of our Lord two thousand nine, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-fourth. From langlois2 at verizon.net Fri Oct 16 02:47:39 2009 From: langlois2 at verizon.net (Brian Langlois) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:47:39 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <9A5F71976DE04BD4A7EDF56FFBBF17D2@barney03> Congrats to you! I hope you ace the next exam as well! Brian Langlois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Matney" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > Hello Everyone, > > > > I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar > Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on > November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. > > > > Angie > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/langlois2%40verizon.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.19/2438 - Release Date: 10/15/09 12:02:00 From angie.matney at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 04:18:42 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:18:42 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <90AB02BC-C9D1-41DC-B24B-CA3180678F20@sbcglobal.net> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> <90AB02BC-C9D1-41DC-B24B-CA3180678F20@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4ad7f42a.86c3f10a.1965.0556@mx.google.com> Yeah, I think that was me. :) I'm @arm4r on twitter. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:08 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hey, congrats. Was that you I saw whooping it up on Twitter? :) Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma il.com From craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 04:36:20 2009 From: craigspencer2.0 at gmail.com (Craig Spencer) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:36:20 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <017201ca4e1a$360342a0$6401a8c0@craig031ff0b62> Angie Congratulations!! That is great news. I wish you all the best. Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Matney" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > Hello Everyone, > > > > I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar > Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on > November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. > > > > Angie > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/craigspencer2.0%40gmail.com From bspiry at comcast.net Fri Oct 16 06:05:23 2009 From: bspiry at comcast.net (Bill Spiry) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:05:23 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <6F8EEA1977D543A8B6853DF4DCDE6FD6@Freddy> Congratulations Angie! -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:55 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/bspiry%40comcast.n et No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.18/2437 - Release Date: 10/15/09 03:57:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.18/2437 - Release Date: 10/15/09 03:57:00 From joramsey at cox.net Fri Oct 16 09:04:24 2009 From: joramsey at cox.net (John Ramsey) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:04:24 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <0B0FFA360DAC47CC9FC29852692ED3BC@noneeb869fea9a> Hi Angie, Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with VOPA. Take care, John John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq. Gainesville, FL 32609 (352) 505-6642 This communication contains information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you have received this communication in error, please call us at (352) 505-6642 and destroy any associated printed materials and delete the electronic material from any computer. Please be aware that any unauthorized disclosure, use or publication of this communication or the information it contains may result in criminal and/or civil liability. Due to this message being transmitted over the Internet, John Ramsey cannot assure that the messages are secure. If you are uncomfortable with such risks, you may decide not to use email to communicate with John Ramsey. Please contact us immediately at (352) 505-6642 if you decide not to use email. You must also be aware that email messages may be delayed or undelivered through circumstances beyond our control. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joramsey%40cox.net From angie.matney at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 11:09:03 2009 From: angie.matney at gmail.com (Angie Matney) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:09:03 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <0B0FFA360DAC47CC9FC29852692ED3BC@noneeb869fea9a> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> <0B0FFA360DAC47CC9FC29852692ED3BC@noneeb869fea9a> Message-ID: <4ad8544e.1ac1f10a.79a2.61a6@mx.google.com> Hi John, Yes, those were the days. (grin) Best, Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John Ramsey Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:04 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hi Angie, Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with VOPA. Take care, John John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq. Gainesville, FL 32609 (352) 505-6642 This communication contains information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you have received this communication in error, please call us at (352) 505-6642 and destroy any associated printed materials and delete the electronic material from any computer. Please be aware that any unauthorized disclosure, use or publication of this communication or the information it contains may result in criminal and/or civil liability. Due to this message being transmitted over the Internet, John Ramsey cannot assure that the messages are secure. If you are uncomfortable with such risks, you may decide not to use email to communicate with John Ramsey. Please contact us immediately at (352) 505-6642 if you decide not to use email. You must also be aware that email messages may be delayed or undelivered through circumstances beyond our control. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joramsey%40cox.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma il.com From AZNOR99 at aol.com Fri Oct 16 12:21:02 2009 From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:21:02 EDT Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Message-ID: Congratulations to everyone who has passed the Bar Exam this year. Welcome to the Legal Profession! Ronza In a message dated 10/16/2009 7:52:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, angie.matney at gmail.com writes: Hi John, Yes, those were the days. (grin) Best, Angie -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John Ramsey Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:04 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hi Angie, Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with VOPA. Take care, John John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq. Gainesville, FL 32609 (352) 505-6642 This communication contains information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you have received this communication in error, please call us at (352) 505-6642 and destroy any associated printed materials and delete the electronic material from any computer. Please be aware that any unauthorized disclosure, use or publication of this communication or the information it contains may result in criminal and/or civil liability. Due to this message being transmitted over the Internet, John Ramsey cannot assure that the messages are secure. If you are uncomfortable with such risks, you may decide not to use email to communicate with John Ramsey. Please contact us immediately at (352) 505-6642 if you decide not to use email. You must also be aware that email messages may be delayed or undelivered through circumstances beyond our control. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joramsey%40cox.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma il.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com From shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com Fri Oct 16 14:36:47 2009 From: shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com (Kate Thegreat) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:36:47 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] question about social security income Message-ID: I'm helping a friend sell her store inventory online as she is out of business. I am making 15% on whatever I sell. So far I haven't made much because so far the only thing I've sold is a few books. Does anyone, from a legal standpoint, know what I'd have to do in order to prove to the SSA that I'm not actually making the full amount that is coming into my bank account in this kind of situation. You see, when the book sells, I collect a paypal payment and then take 15% out and give the rest to my friend. She is no longer in business, she went bankrupt, so she can't even claim to be any particular business owner. So how will the SSA know what's actually going on. I'm sure they won't just take my word for it nor my friend's word. If anyone has any insights to offer, please let me know. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ From m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com Fri Oct 16 14:38:12 2009 From: m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com (Mike Gilmore) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <665642.34115.qm@web112414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Congratulations, Angie!   I'm happy for you.   The MPRE is a piece of cake. You'll ace it.   Mike --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Angie Matney wrote: From: Angie Matney Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 9:55 PM Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/m_b_gilmore%40yahoo.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri Oct 16 16:00:27 2009 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:00:27 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! References: Message-ID: <6FE851C9337C4DEC8B99383137BA6EE0@labarre> Here, here! Scott C. LaBarre, Esq. LaBarre Law Offices P.C. 1660 South Albion Street, Ste. 918 Denver, Colorado 80222 303 504-5979 (voice) 303 757-3640 (fax) slabarre at labarrelaw.com (e-mail) www.labarrelaw.com (website) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or retain this message. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender at 303) 504-5979 or slabarre at labarrelaw.com, and destroy and delete it from your system. This message and any attachments are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2521. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > Congratulations to everyone who has passed the Bar Exam this year. Welcome > to the Legal Profession! > > Ronza > > > > In a message dated 10/16/2009 7:52:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > angie.matney at gmail.com writes: > > Hi John, > > Yes, those were the days. (grin) > > Best, > > Angie > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of John Ramsey > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:04 AM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > > Hi Angie, > Congratulations. It seems like only yesterday you were with VOPA. > Take care, > John > > John A. Ramsey Jr., Esq. > > Gainesville, FL 32609 > > (352) 505-6642 > > > > This communication contains information that may be confidential and/or > legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual or > entity to which it is addressed. If you have received this communication > in > error, please call us at (352) 505-6642 and destroy any associated > printed > materials and delete the electronic material from any computer. Please be > aware that any unauthorized disclosure, use or publication of this > communication or the information it contains may result in criminal > and/or > civil liability. Due to this message being transmitted over the Internet, > John Ramsey cannot assure that the messages are secure. If you are > uncomfortable with such risks, you may decide not to use email to > communicate with John Ramsey. Please contact us immediately at (352) > 505-6642 if you decide not to use email. You must also be aware that > email > messages may be delayed or undelivered through circumstances beyond our > control. Thank you. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Angie Matney > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar > Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on > November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. > > > > Angie > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/joramsey%40cox.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/angie.matney%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/slabarre%40labarrelaw.com > From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Fri Oct 16 19:47:05 2009 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:47:05 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and other resources Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D674B@EVS02.central.pima.gov> I have been trying, without success, to find some information about the availability of Arizona statute books and similar reference materials in an audio format. I use a Smartview desktop reader and WinZoom computer software in the office, and have portable reader to use in court, but having a backup audio source, preferably Mp3 (although I also have a 4-track machine) would be so much help. The only response I get from West Publishing is to offer a Braille text, which I am not yet literate enough to use, and large print texts, which are far to bulky to be hauling back and forth to hearings. (I should have followed up on the instinct to learn Braille in grade school, but glasses were enough back then.) Does anyone know if audio formats for such things are available, and where I should check to obtain them? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5675 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 16 20:30:38 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:30:38 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] question about social security income In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E44078539D44C64AC1DDAC7828394E9@spike> There are different standards that apply based on whether you are receiving SSI or Social Security disability benefits. If you are receiving Social Security disability benefits you most likely will not be making enough money to where it won't become an issue. There are potentially ways to get around this if you are receiving SSI however. If needed you can contact me off list to discuss further. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Thegreat" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:36 AM Subject: [blindlaw] question about social security income > > I'm helping a friend sell her store inventory online as she is out of > business. I am making 15% on whatever I sell. So far I haven't made much > because so far the only thing I've sold is a few books. Does anyone, from > a legal standpoint, know what I'd have to do in order to prove to the SSA > that I'm not actually making the full amount that is coming into my bank > account in this kind of situation. You see, when the book sells, I collect > a paypal payment and then take 15% out and give the rest to my friend. She > is no longer in business, she went bankrupt, so she can't even claim to be > any particular business owner. So how will the SSA know what's actually > going on. I'm sure they won't just take my word for it nor my friend's > word. If anyone has any insights to offer, please let me know. Thanks. > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From darlene.olsen at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 23:34:14 2009 From: darlene.olsen at gmail.com (Darlene Olsen) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:34:14 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: CONGRATULATIONS !!! We are all thrilled for you. I am elated that you passed that exam. Darlene Olsen Napa, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Matney" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > Hello Everyone, > > > > I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar > Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on > November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. > > > > Angie > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/darlene.olsen%40gmail.com From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Sat Oct 17 01:12:29 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:12:29 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5DC7FA1BC0B1405B9EDF119578654F69@StevePC> congradulations!!! I didn't pass the Bar because I didn't take the bar!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darlene Olsen" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > CONGRATULATIONS !!! We are all thrilled for you. I am elated that you > passed that exam. > Darlene Olsen > Napa, California > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Angie Matney" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:55 PM > Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! > > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> >> >> I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar >> Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on >> November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. >> >> >> >> Angie >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/darlene.olsen%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.422 / Virus Database: 270.14.20/2440 - Release Date: 10/16/09 06:32:00 From cdanielsen8 at aol.com Sat Oct 17 10:28:44 2009 From: cdanielsen8 at aol.com (Chris Danielsen) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 06:28:44 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <947C056DFB4241C5827B25EE064E23E5@Scorpio13> Congratulations! I hope your legal career is a fulfilling one. Chris -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angie Matney Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! Hello Everyone, I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. Angie _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdanielsen8%40aol. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4517 (20091017) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4517 (20091017) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Sun Oct 18 02:36:28 2009 From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (ray wayne) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:36:28 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! In-Reply-To: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20091018023628.rwayne1@nyc.rr.com> Congratulations, Angie. Ray Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Matney" To: "'Ationfbnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Date: Friday, Oct 16, 2009 0:29:36 Subject: [bllaw] I passed the VA Bar! > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I'm happy (actually, ecstatic!) to report that I passed the Virginia Bar > Exam! I still have to pass the MPRE, but I think that will happen on > November 7th. Hopefully, I will be licensed on December 15. > > > > Angie > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > bllaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for bllaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com From blindchildren at verizon.net Sun Oct 18 23:36:33 2009 From: blindchildren at verizon.net (Carol Castellano) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:36:33 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Fwd: Attention Disability Colleagues!! FTA Civil Rights Training, Washington, DC - December 2-4, 2009. Disability Organizations are strongly encouraged to register only for day 1 - ADA Day. Message-ID: Dave, I received this notice from a disability organization in VA. Would you please forward to any lists that you think might be interested. Thanks, Carol Carol Castellano, President National Organization of Parents of Blind Children 973-377-0976 carol_castellano at verizon.net www.nfb.org/nopbc Subject: Attention Disability Colleagues!! FTA Civil Rights Training, > Washington, DC - December 2-4, 2009. Disability Organizations are strongly > encouraged to register only for day 1 - ADA Day. >Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:25:26 -0400 >From: "Konoka Izumi" >To: "Konoka Izumi" > >[] > Federal Transit Administration >Office of Civil Rights > > >Civil Rights Training >December 2 - 4, 2009 >Washington, DC > >[] > >[] > > >The Federal Transit Administration’s Office of >Civil Rights invites its grant recipients and >other interested stakeholders in all FTA Regions >to attend a three-day training on FTA’s civil >rights requirements and guidance. The training >will review federal laws, regulations, executive >orders, and guidance covering the Americans with >Disabilities Act, Title VI of the Civil Rights >Act of 1964, and the U.S. Department of >Transportation’s Disadvantaged Business >Enterprise (DBE) Program. This training will >also discuss recently implemented and proposed >updates to existing FTA civil rights directives and guidelines. > >This training will help practitioners better >understand the importance of civil rights >considerations in transportation and transit >planning, project development, investment, and >operations. Participants will be able to apply >the content learned during this course to their >daily work activities and local environment. > >Participants will also have the opportunity to >provide the FTA with feedback on challenges and >opportunities that they have experienced in >implementing Federal civil rights directives and >to share examples of effective or promising >practices that could be adopted by state, >regional, and local agencies or community-based organizations. > >Scholarships for travel expenses are available! > >This training will be held at the Westin >Arlington Gateway located at 801 North Glebe >Road, Arlington, VA 22203. Hotel rooms are >available on a first-come first-serve basis. To >reserve a room at the group discount rate of >$207/night, call 1-888-627-7076 or 703-717-6200 >and mention the FTA Workshop. The room >registration cut-off date is November 13, 2009. >Reservation Deadline: Workshop reservations must >be made by November 13, 2009 while all >scholarship requests must be made by November 6, 2009. > >FTA Civil Rights Training >Preliminary Agenda > > >Wednesday ­ December 2, 2009 > >Morning Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA) > Overview and Updates >Afternoon ADA Fixed Route Self Assessment > Complementary Paratransit Self-Assessment > ADA Trivia! > >Thursday ­ December 3, 2009 > >Morning Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 Overview > Overview of New Title VI Circular > Title VI Video “Divided Highways” >Afternoon Environmental Justice > Exercise: City of Metropolis > DOJ Video “Language Barriers” > Limited English Proficiency (LEP) > >Friday ­ December 4, 2009 > >Morning Disadvantaged Business Enterprise Program (DBE) Overview > DBE Goal Methodology >Afternoon DBE Fraud > DBE Certification > >Layo Osiyemi >Endependence Center of Northern Virginia, Inc. (ECNV) >2300 Clarendon Blvd. Suite 305 >Arlington, VA 22201 >(703) 525-3268 Ext 8005 (V) >(703) 525-3553 (TTY) >(703) 525-3585 (Fax) >www.ecnv.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 163bc8a.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 19143 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 163bcc9.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 38049 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 163bd17.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 35491 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DC Flyer and Preliminary Agenda1.doc Type: application/msword Size: 70144 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:47 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and otherresources > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net > From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 19 19:56:52 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:56:52 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] ADA town hall in Oakland Ca Message-ID: <1D5F097F53FA48328CCCAE5635AB52B8@spike> Subject: Mon, Oct 26: ADA AA Town Hall in Oakland, CA The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) Civil Rights Division announce a full-day Town Hall Listening Session Monday, October 26, 2009 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. California Endowment 1111 Broadway, 7th floor Oakland, CA 94607 This is the first of a series of forums for public input being held throughout the country in coming weeks to obtain direct input from the business/employer communities as well as the disability and disability advocacy community on EEOC's proposed regulations under the ADA Amendments Act of 2008 (ADAAA). Presided over by EEOC's Acting Chair, Stuart J. Ishimaru, Acting Vice Chair, Christine Griffin, and Commissioner Constance S. Barker, as well as DOJ's Deputy Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, Samuel Bagenstos, Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, Mazen Baswari, and Chief of the Disability Rights Section of the Civil Rights Division, John Wodatch, the Town Hall Listening Session is an opportunity for these officials to hear directly from stakeholders of all perspectives on the proposed regulations. Five-minute time slots to address the panel will be available from 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Some of the slots will be available on an advance registration basis and some on first-come, first-served sign up basis at the event. Members of the public are also invited to attend and view the proceedings, with space available on a first-come, first-served basis. As a reasonable accommodation, there will be limited availability to provide public input by telephone. To request this accommodation you must register in advance. Individuals representing themselves or organizations are urged to take advantage of this opportunity to provide input on the EEOC's Notice of Proposed Rulemaking which can be viewed, along with a question-and- answer guide, at www.eeoc.gov For more information, or to register as a speaker, please contact Linda Li at 415-625-5618 (TTY 415-625-5610) Linda.Li at ... Sign Language Interpreters, CART, and assistive listening devices will please email Elisa.gonzalez. ctr at ... Please let her know what you need and the location (city) of the event you will be attending. Both EEOC and DOJ want to encourage all individuals and organizations who cannot attend this event to make sure you submit comments and attachments electronically at http://www.regulati ons.gov, the Federal eRulemaking Portal. The ID # is 3046-AA85. Written comments may also be submitted to Stephen Llewellyn, Executive Secretariat, EEOC, 131 M Street, NE., Suite 4NW08R, Room 6NE03F, Washington, DC 20507. Comments may be transmitted by facsimile ("FAX'') machine by dialing (202) 663-4114. (This is not a toll-free number.) Only comments of six or fewer pages will be accepted via FAX transmittal. Comments must be submitted on or before November 23, 2009. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _ Please forward as appropriate - we are truly seeking comment from the public, from business and employers as well as the disability and disability advocacy community. Thank you. From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Mon Oct 19 21:11:38 2009 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:11:38 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and other resources In-Reply-To: References: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D674B@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D6766@EVS02.central.pima.gov> Thanks - I'll give it another shot, although I'm finding that at least in the Arizona materials, our profession is having a bit of difficulty (to be nice) measuring up to the goal of accessibility for all. Keeping my fingers crossed, though. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Sent: Monday, 19 October, 2009 12:15 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and otherresources Probably the best solution would be to use Westlaw on line to get this materials. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kelly" To: Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:47 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Mp3 files/versions of Arizona statute books and otherresources > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbc global.net > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40 pima.gov From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com Tue Oct 20 18:13:45 2009 From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:13:45 -0600 Subject: [blindlaw] I passed the VA Bar! References: <4ad7d276.04c2f10a.6b9b.154e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <3AC7FBA20AEF455C877D40568FBC0E87@valtd> Angie, hearty congratulations! God bless you as you begin carving a niche in the legal profession. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Oct 20 20:08:33 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:08:33 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Managing Your Word Documents, ABA September/October 2009 Message-ID: This article relates to discussions that have occurred on this list about document management programs. It may give some idea for other programs to try out for accessibility. Link: http://new.abanet.org/publishing/bookbriefsblog/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=95 Text: 10/13/2009 Managing Your Word Documents By Ben M. Schorr Excerpted from The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Word 2007 Microsoft produced Office 2007 with a strong emphasis on collaboration, and this plays nicely into how lawyers tend to use their tools. Having partners, associates, co-counsel, clients, witnesses, and paralegals work on a document means that it has many authors and editors. Effectively working together to produce a professional finished document is key to running a great law practice. Third-Party Document Management Systems I have to admit that I sort of resent third-party document-management systems. They're an expensive crutch whose sole reason for existence is simple human weakness. With any modern computer, if you use an intelligent file-naming convention in a disciplined fashion and a good file-searching system-Copernic Desktop and Windows Desktop Search (WDS) are two such options that are also free-then you really don't need a third-party document-management system. Document management exists to help you and your colleagues intelligently save, store, and find documents. You can accomplish the same thing by establishing a policy that says, "All memos will be saved to the client's folder, under the matter subfolder, with a file name in the format of 'Memo to [X] regarding [Y],'" and then adhering religiously to that policy. Everybody would be able to find a document they were looking for and the search tool (like WDS) would help cover those scenarios where simple good file names and directory structures don't fit the bill. Unfortunately, in the real world, people are rushed and corners get cut. Pretty soon the root folder of the structure starts to fill up with files named "Memo1," "Memo2," "Jonesmemo," and so forth as people cut the handful of steps required to save the file properly and just save it as quickly as they can, with whatever name they can bang out fast, and move on. Then you have the filing equivalent of kindergarten, and nobody can remember which cubby they put their shoes in. Document-management systems solve this problem by automating some of the process (extracting keywords from the document itself, and inserting the author and editor IDs) and by forcing other parts of it-requiring the user to type in a client/matter number, for example. They also generally include a search engine that can be used to search the document profiles as well as the document itself. In addition to the purpose-built document-management tools, many case-management suites like ProLaw or Client Profiles are capable of some document management as well. If you already have a full-featured case-management suite in place, you might want to see if it can address your document-management needs before you invest in a separate document-management tool. DocsOpen by Open Text (formerly "Hummingbird") The venerable DocsOpen system is one that just about any lawyer who has been around a decade or two has probably run across in at least one firm. It was, for a time, the most popular system among the AmLaw 100, and if it has fallen from that perch it has only been due to cost, competition, and perhaps some disillusionment among firms with the product-which, to be honest, is probably inevitable with a product as complicated and ubiquitous as a document-management system is. More information is available at http://www.opentext.com/2/global/sol-products/sol-pro-edocs-products2/pro-llecm-docsopen.htm. Interwoven WorkSite (formerly known as iManage) Probably the other leading vendor in the AmLaw 100 for document and content management is Interwoven. Their WorkSite is extremely modular and can be customized for a particular firm. More information is available at http://www.interwoven.com. Worldox Worldox has been around since the late 1980s and is widely used in small- to mid-sized firms. Unlike its competitors, Worldox has always been Worldox and hasn't evolved through acquisition and change of ownership. It started out as a reasonably priced solution for smaller firms and has grown a bit from there. It's still pretty reasonably priced for what you get. More information is available at http://www.worldox.com. Created By: Kurt Harzke | Category: Legal Technology | Permalink From roddj12 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 20 22:14:01 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:14:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this task to an assistant? I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Tue Oct 20 22:12:17 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:12:17 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com> You could always have your assistant place a "sign here" sticker on the document where you need to sign and use a signature guide to do this. I hope this is what you were asking. Will -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this task to an assistant? I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 20 22:34:05 2009 From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:34:05 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys References: Message-ID: <000901ca51d5$6f0d0a90$280110ac@HP8730notebook> hi, 1 sign your name several times, choose the best one, scan it so you can slap it where you need it. 2 use the ms word bradley hand itc font and 18 point and it will look like your signature. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing > parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this > task to an assistant? > > I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? > > I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net From AZNOR99 at aol.com Tue Oct 20 22:42:01 2009 From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:42:01 EDT Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys Message-ID: I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB Independence Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several hours a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their assistants. I had mine made at Office Max. Hope that answers your question. Ronza In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this task to an assistant? I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com From pattichang at att.net Tue Oct 20 23:07:09 2009 From: pattichang at att.net (Patti Gregory-Chang) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:07:09 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys References: <035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com> Message-ID: <6C590520A6574E5195E35928D90F73DF@D3J75Z91> My favorite method is a post it note. You can stick it on the paper right below where you have to sign and it doesn't even require that someone be here. Also, it doesn't slip or slide. I used to have to do 20 or so releases a day and it worked well. P.S. National Federation of the Blind of Illinois is now on twitter at www.twitter.com/nfbi. We also have a facebook page. Just search for our full name. Patti Gregory-Chang President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois pattichang at att.net www.nfbofillinois.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "WB" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > You could always have your assistant place a "sign here" sticker on the > document where you need to sign and use a signature guide to do this. > > I hope this is what you were asking. > > Will > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing > parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this > task to an assistant? > > I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? > > I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net From roddj12 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 20 23:21:33 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:21:33 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: <035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com> References: <035a01ca51d2$6444e860$2cceb920$@com> Message-ID: Thanks, Will. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "WB" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:12 PM To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > You could always have your assistant place a "sign here" sticker on the > document where you need to sign and use a signature guide to do this. > > I hope this is what you were asking. > > Will > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:14 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing > parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this > task to an assistant? > > I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? > > I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From jsorozco at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 00:07:05 2009 From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:07:05 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Pac Mate Omni for Sale Message-ID: <30B6CFD886164672A222D9EB19835DA1@Rufus> I hope this is not completely off-list, but if there are any attorneys in search of a notetaker, read below: Subject: Pac Mate Omni for Sale I have a Pac Mate Omni BX420 for sale. 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Thomas, Jr.) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:21:42 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am sure that some techie on this list will know how to do this, but there is a way to create a digital signature that you can insert into a document you create. As our profession inches its way into the 21st century with more and more courts allowing electronic filing, some type of digital or imaged signature wil be important to you. Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this task to an assistant? I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo .com From roddj12 at hotmail.com Wed Oct 21 00:30:35 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:30:35 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! Take care Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM To: Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB Independence > Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several > hours > a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of > sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their assistants. > I > had mine made at Office Max. > Hope that answers your question. > > Ronza > > > In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: > > How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, > opposing > > parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this > task to an assistant? > > I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? > > I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 21 00:41:12 2009 From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:41:12 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys References: Message-ID: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook> hi, are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at different places on the pages? if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or laminated guide with a l notch. the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left corner of your stamp. if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps use a hole punch to do the same. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. > > And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing > my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. > > I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a > process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. > > I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! > > Take care > > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >> Independence >> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >> hours >> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >> assistants. I >> had mine made at Office Max. >> Hope that answers your question. >> >> Ronza >> >> >> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >> >> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >> opposing >> >> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this >> task to an assistant? >> >> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >> >> Take care. >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 00:46:16 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:46:16 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03b801ca51e7$e6dae1c0$b490a540$@com> For the digital signature, just have your assistant make three or four squares for you to sign in. They can choose the best signature and scan it into the computer. They can then place the signature where it needs to be in a blank letterhead on your signature block. If they choose the right one, it won't even be pixilated. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:22 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys I am sure that some techie on this list will know how to do this, but there is a way to create a digital signature that you can insert into a document you create. As our profession inches its way into the 21st century with more and more courts allowing electronic filing, some type of digital or imaged signature wil be important to you. Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this task to an assistant? I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo .com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 21 01:00:59 2009 From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:00:59 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys References: <03b801ca51e7$e6dae1c0$b490a540$@com> Message-ID: <003a01ca51e9$f4369c90$280110ac@HP8730notebook> that's what i said. if the person wants to know, you can code it into a macro that can be fired to complete the entire act of signing a letter from sincerely down to esquire. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "WB" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > For the digital signature, just have your assistant make three or four > squares for you to sign in. They can choose the best signature and scan > it > into the computer. They can then place the signature where it needs to be > in a blank letterhead on your signature block. If they choose the right > one, it won't even be pixilated. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Russell J. Thomas, Jr. > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:22 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > I am sure that some techie on this list will know how to do this, but > there > is a way to create a digital signature that you can insert into a document > you create. > > As our profession inches its way into the 21st century with more and more > courts allowing electronic filing, some type of digital or imaged > signature > wil be important to you. > > > Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing > parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this > task to an assistant? > > I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? > > I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo > .com > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net From dlb723 at comcast.net Wed Oct 21 02:37:01 2009 From: dlb723 at comcast.net (Don Brown) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:37:01 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Judge rules for ACB in Social Security case Message-ID: <2CCF93E3FCB74386924BA27B8BEA52B5@donpc> Judge Alsup's decision in the ACB vs. SSA case came out today (10.20.09): Judge William Alsup of the US District Court, Northern District of California in San Francisco, today issued a judgment in favor of the American Council of the Blind (ACB) and two classes of 3,000,000 individuals with blindness and visual impairments. The suit challenged the Social Security Administration's (SSA) failure to provide its critical benefits communications to recipients in alternative formats that would enable people with visual impairments to have equal access to SSA programs as required by federal disability civil rights laws. This ruling signals a major victory for the disability rights movement, and it sets precedent for the obligations of other federal and state agencies to accommodate people who are blind or have visual impairments. The Social Security Administration (SSA) sends out 390 million notices and forms each year. Plaintiffs won the right to receive communications in a format that is accessible to them, and Judge Alsup ruled that these formats, at a minimum, must include Braille and CD. Here are links to the Judgment http://www.dredf.org/SSA/2009-10-20-Judgment.pdf and Findings of Fact and Conclusions http://www.dredf.org/SSA/2009-10-20-Findings.pdf From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 21 07:25:40 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:25:40 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A77096DBCFD40BF93277D9F409AD3B2@spike> A signature is a signature. Therefore, I sign it and don't worry about it as my typed signature appears on the document. I have had no problems with this during the many years I was a social worker where I frequently had to sign releases and other documents. This also has not been a problem as a paralegal. Additionally, I will have a secretary or clerk act as a witness when a client is signing forms such as a release of information to make sure they have signed it properly. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:14 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, opposing > parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this > task to an assistant? > > I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? > > I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From b75205 at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 15:10:57 2009 From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:10:57 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: <4A77096DBCFD40BF93277D9F409AD3B2@spike> References: <4A77096DBCFD40BF93277D9F409AD3B2@spike> Message-ID: Techie here. I design documents where the signature is placed at certain consistent locations on the page and I tell you where it is located by distance, for instance, a half inch above the bottom edge of the page within a margin of a half inch on each side of the page, and I do not place any other content near it so you have room to manuever. But you will not find designers who are doing this type of thing because they rarely care about telling you where things are located. Also they are stuck in the idea that a digital form for the blind must look exactly the same as a paper form even though the current stock of paper forms use fonts that are too small to be scanned. Most government forms use fonts that are tiny and so you cannot use OCR software on them, so where is the "meeting of the minds" for all of you legal experts? How do you record a copy of a document if you cannot scan it and have a copy and why is it that people think it is your responsibility to determine what is on a page that is sent to you. I have noticed that there is a lot of editorial work done on scans to make them intelligible and that responsibility is placed on the receiver of a document when it should be the responsibility to communicate their thoughts from the writer of the document. Forms designers cannot conceive of the idea of a large print form as a minimal concern for the blind, let alone using fonts that can be scanned and used with OCR. Both are tied together because if you cannot scan the document, then how do you have a copy you can access? Digital Signatures in PDF files can have your actual signature as an image and it binds the page and changes the accessibility of the page so you have to be careful of how you set those settings and you are limited in the use to 500 copies of a form due to licensing from Adobe of this technology, so you don't see this used very often in PDF documents. Many government agencies require a written signature and do not allow digital signatures. The Elections Assistance Commission insists on it for voter registration. It would solve a lot of problems if a signature field could be signed electronically so you would not have to know where the signature field was located on the page, you just sign it when the screen reader finds the field. James Pepper From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Oct 21 18:27:50 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:27:50 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook> Message-ID: Blindlaw listers: This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys hi, are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at different places on the pages? if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or laminated guide with a l notch. the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left corner of your stamp. if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps use a hole punch to do the same. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. > > And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing > my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. > > I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a > process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. > > I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! > > Take care > > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >> Independence >> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >> hours >> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >> assistants. I >> had mine made at Office Max. >> Hope that answers your question. >> >> Ronza >> >> >> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >> >> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >> opposing >> >> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this >> task to an assistant? >> >> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >> >> Take care. >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 19:09:17 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:09:17 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook> Message-ID: <049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There are some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. In Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, we are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic signature and a physical one does not need to be there. So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in. I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters that do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for advertisement letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys Blindlaw listers: This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys hi, are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at different places on the pages? if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or laminated guide with a l notch. the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left corner of your stamp. if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps use a hole punch to do the same. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. > > And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing > my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. > > I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a > process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. > > I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! > > Take care > > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >> Independence >> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >> hours >> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >> assistants. I >> had mine made at Office Max. >> Hope that answers your question. >> >> Ronza >> >> >> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >> >> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >> opposing >> >> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this >> task to an assistant? >> >> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >> >> Take care. >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob al.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 0ed.gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From parnell at sccoast.net Wed Oct 21 19:22:14 2009 From: parnell at sccoast.net (Parnell and Kim Diggs) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:22:14 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys References: Message-ID: A signature is typically any mark, applied by hand or otherwise, that the declarant holds out to be a signature. This is why notaries and witnesses come in handy at times. Parnell Diggs President National Federation of the Blind of South Carolina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nightingale, Noel" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > Blindlaw listers: > > This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my > life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. > > Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Schulz > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > hi, > > are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line > at different places on the pages? > if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or > laminated guide with a l notch. > the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the > corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom > left corner of your stamp. > > if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so > perhaps use a hole punch to do the same. > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > >> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >> >> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing >> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >> >> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >> >> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >> >> Take care >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>> Independence >>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>> hours >>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>> assistants. I >>> had mine made at Office Max. >>> Hope that answers your question. >>> >>> Ronza >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>> opposing >>> >>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>> this >>> task to an assistant? >>> >>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/parnell%40sccoast.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.24/2449 - Release Date: 10/20/09 18:42:00 From Susan.Kelly at pima.gov Wed Oct 21 19:43:49 2009 From: Susan.Kelly at pima.gov (Susan Kelly) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:43:49 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook> Message-ID: <1C09B58171332F49B237676A5158B1F7033D6789@EVS02.central.pima.gov> One of my co-workers is quadriplegic. It took a major amount of doing, but a rubber stamp was finally approved. Our office had to file a "jurat" with both the superior court and the appellate court to certify that the stamp was her signature. At the same time, however, our judges routinely stamp orders, rather than individually signing them. As with my co-worker's stamp, it is not a replication of the individual's signature, but rather a typeface/print stamp of the name. All in all, I suppose the legality of the stamp may depend on the jurisdiction. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel Sent: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009 11:28 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys Blindlaw listers: This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys hi, are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line at different places on the pages? if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or laminated guide with a l notch. the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left corner of your stamp. if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at the left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so perhaps use a hole punch to do the same. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Alcidonis" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. > > And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing > my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. > > I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a > process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. > > I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! > > Take care > > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >> Independence >> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >> hours >> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >> assistants. I >> had mine made at Office Max. >> Hope that answers your question. >> >> Ronza >> >> >> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >> >> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >> opposing >> >> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate this >> task to an assistant? >> >> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >> >> Take care. >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol. com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotm ail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbc global.net _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightinga le%40ed.gov _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/susan.kelly%40 pima.gov From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Oct 21 20:26:47 2009 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:26:47 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Contact within Lexis who knows about using assistive technology with Lexis Message-ID: Blindlaw listers: The National Association of Blind Lawyers is exploring putting together a continuing legal education seminar for blind lawyers, a part of which would include using Lexis with assistive technology. Does anyone on the list have any contacts within Lexis who know about using Lexis with a screen reader or other assistive technology? If so, please send me an e-mail with the information at: noel.nightingale at ed.gov Thank you. Noel Nightingale From roddj12 at hotmail.com Wed Oct 21 21:22:43 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:22:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: <049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com> References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook> <049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com> Message-ID: There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "WB" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There > are > some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. In > Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, > we > are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic > signature > and a physical one does not need to be there. > > So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in. > > I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters > that > do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for > advertisement > letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > Blindlaw listers: > > This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my > life > as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. > > Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Schulz > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > hi, > > are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line > at > different places on the pages? > if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or > laminated guide with a l notch. > the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the > corner > of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left > corner of your stamp. > > if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > the > left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so > perhaps > use a hole punch to do the same. > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > >> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >> >> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing >> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >> >> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >> >> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >> >> Take care >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>> Independence >>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>> hours >>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>> assistants. I >>> had mine made at Office Max. >>> Hope that answers your question. >>> >>> Ronza >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>> opposing >>> >>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>> this >>> task to an assistant? >>> >>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 > 0ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 21:20:05 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:20:05 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: <00cd01ca51e7$30ca4ce0$280110ac@HP8730notebook> <049701ca5281$fde51cb0$f9af5610$@com> Message-ID: <051b01ca5294$43b2a8e0$cb17faa0$@com> There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "WB" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There > are > some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. In > Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, > we > are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic > signature > and a physical one does not need to be there. > > So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in. > > I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters > that > do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for > advertisement > letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > Blindlaw listers: > > This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my > life > as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. > > Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Schulz > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > hi, > > are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line > at > different places on the pages? > if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or > laminated guide with a l notch. > the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the > corner > of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left > corner of your stamp. > > if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > the > left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so > perhaps > use a hole punch to do the same. > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > >> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >> >> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing >> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >> >> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >> >> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >> >> Take care >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>> Independence >>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>> hours >>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>> assistants. I >>> had mine made at Office Max. >>> Hope that answers your question. >>> >>> Ronza >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>> opposing >>> >>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>> this >>> task to an assistant? >>> >>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 > 0ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From AZNOR99 at aol.com Thu Oct 22 00:16:55 2009 From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:16:55 EDT Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys Message-ID: By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your signature. Or anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use that too. Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling a signature which does not happen to be your own. I used my stamp for pleadings, discovery, official notification, and even before a notery public. I put the marks made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was always accepted by courts, other attorneys, etc. Ronza In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes: There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "WB" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There > are > some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. In > Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, > we > are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic > signature > and a physical one does not need to be there. > > So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in. > > I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters > that > do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for > advertisement > letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > Blindlaw listers: > > This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my > life > as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. > > Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Schulz > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > hi, > > are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line > at > different places on the pages? > if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or > laminated guide with a l notch. > the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the > corner > of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left > corner of your stamp. > > if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > the > left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so > perhaps > use a hole punch to do the same. > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > >> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >> >> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing >> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >> >> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >> >> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >> >> Take care >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>> Independence >>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>> hours >>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>> assistants. I >>> had mine made at Office Max. >>> Hope that answers your question. >>> >>> Ronza >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>> opposing >>> >>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>> this >>> task to an assistant? >>> >>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 > 0ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com From roddj12 at hotmail.com Thu Oct 22 01:25:46 2009 From: roddj12 at hotmail.com (Rod Alcidonis) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:25:46 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am still confused about the stamp, Ronza. Isn't a generic representation of a signature? Or is it a stamp which is generated with a copy of your signature as written by you. I think that's the rout I will take. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 PM To: Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your signature. > Or > anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use that too. > Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling a > signature > which does not happen to be your own. I used my stamp for pleadings, > discovery, official notification, and even before a notery public. I put > the marks > made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was always accepted by > courts, other attorneys, etc. > > Ronza > > > In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes: > > There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. > That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as > sufficient > as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it > is > made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "WB" > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There >> are >> some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. > In >> Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most > cases, >> we >> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic >> signature >> and a physical one does not need to be there. >> >> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are >> in. >> >> I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters >> that >> do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for >> advertisement >> letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> Blindlaw listers: >> >> This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my >> life >> as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. >> >> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM >> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> hi, >> >> are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line >> at >> different places on the pages? >> if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or >> laminated guide with a l notch. >> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the >> corner >> of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left >> corner of your stamp. >> >> if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > >> the >> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so >> perhaps >> use a hole punch to do the same. >> >> Bryan Schulz >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rod Alcidonis" >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> >>> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >>> >>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of >>> signing >>> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >>> >>> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >>> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >>> >>> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >>> >>>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>>> Independence >>>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>>> hours >>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots >>>> of >>>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>>> assistants. I >>>> had mine made at Office Max. >>>> Hope that answers your question. >>>> >>>> Ronza >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>>> >>>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>>> opposing >>>> >>>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>>> this >>>> task to an assistant? >>>> >>>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>>> >>>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>>> C. 718-704-4651 >>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>>> Hamilton >>>> Houston >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. >> com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob >> al.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 >> 0ed.gov >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Thu Oct 22 03:06:03 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:06:03 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05f201ca52c4$98961240$c9c236c0$@com> As someone stated earlier, this depends on the jurisdiction you're in and the firm you work for. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of AZNOR99 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:17 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your signature. Or anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use that too. Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling a signature which does not happen to be your own. I used my stamp for pleadings, discovery, official notification, and even before a notery public. I put the marks made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was always accepted by courts, other attorneys, etc. Ronza In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes: There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "WB" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There > are > some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. In > Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, > we > are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic > signature > and a physical one does not need to be there. > > So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in. > > I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters > that > do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for > advertisement > letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > Blindlaw listers: > > This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my > life > as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. > > Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Schulz > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > hi, > > are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line > at > different places on the pages? > if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or > laminated guide with a l notch. > the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the > corner > of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left > corner of your stamp. > > if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > the > left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so > perhaps > use a hole punch to do the same. > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > >> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >> >> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing >> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >> >> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >> >> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >> >> Take care >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>> Independence >>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>> hours >>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>> assistants. I >>> had mine made at Office Max. >>> Hope that answers your question. >>> >>> Ronza >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>> opposing >>> >>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>> this >>> task to an assistant? >>> >>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 > 0ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com From AZNOR99 at aol.com Thu Oct 22 03:22:33 2009 From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:22:33 EDT Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys Message-ID: I suppose you could get both forms. I went to the printer and told them I wanted them to create my signature into a stamp. So they had me sign on an electronic unit - sort of like the point of purchase devices at stores after swiping a credit card. They then used the image of my original signature to create the stamp. In a message dated 10/21/2009 10:58:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: I am still confused about the stamp, Ronza. Isn't a generic representation of a signature? Or is it a stamp which is generated with a copy of your signature as written by you. I think that's the rout I will take. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 PM To: Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your signature. > Or > anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use that too. > Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling a > signature > which does not happen to be your own. I used my stamp for pleadings, > discovery, official notification, and even before a notery public. I put > the marks > made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was always accepted by > courts, other attorneys, etc. > > Ronza > > > In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes: > > There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. > That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as > sufficient > as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it > is > made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "WB" > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There >> are >> some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. > In >> Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most > cases, >> we >> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic >> signature >> and a physical one does not need to be there. >> >> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are >> in. >> >> I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters >> that >> do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for >> advertisement >> letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> Blindlaw listers: >> >> This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my >> life >> as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. >> >> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM >> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> hi, >> >> are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line >> at >> different places on the pages? >> if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or >> laminated guide with a l notch. >> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the >> corner >> of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left >> corner of your stamp. >> >> if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > >> the >> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so >> perhaps >> use a hole punch to do the same. >> >> Bryan Schulz >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rod Alcidonis" >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> >>> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >>> >>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of >>> signing >>> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >>> >>> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >>> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >>> >>> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >>> >>>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>>> Independence >>>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>>> hours >>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots >>>> of >>>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>>> assistants. I >>>> had mine made at Office Max. >>>> Hope that answers your question. >>>> >>>> Ronza >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>>> >>>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>>> opposing >>>> >>>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>>> this >>>> task to an assistant? >>>> >>>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>>> >>>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>>> C. 718-704-4651 >>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>>> Hamilton >>>> Houston >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. >> com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob >> al.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 >> 0ed.gov >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com From cdborne at gmail.com Thu Oct 22 03:53:30 2009 From: cdborne at gmail.com (Craig Borne) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:53:30 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <28DD527C94F44E68B6069F7A3094A2B7@CraigPC> You can also get this done at an Office Depot. They had me sign my name larger than usual three times, then they took the best quality and reduced it to a stamp that was normal signature size. I had them do it in blue ink so it looked more like a real signature when compared to the black ink of the letter. Craig -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of AZNOR99 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:23 PM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys I suppose you could get both forms. I went to the printer and told them I wanted them to create my signature into a stamp. So they had me sign on an electronic unit - sort of like the point of purchase devices at stores after swiping a credit card. They then used the image of my original signature to create the stamp. In a message dated 10/21/2009 10:58:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: I am still confused about the stamp, Ronza. Isn't a generic representation of a signature? Or is it a stamp which is generated with a copy of your signature as written by you. I think that's the rout I will take. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:16 PM To: Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your signature. > Or > anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use that too. > Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling a > signature which does not happen to be your own. I used my stamp for > pleadings, discovery, official notification, and even before a notery > public. I put > the marks > made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was always accepted > by courts, other attorneys, etc. > > Ronza > > > In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes: > > There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. > That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as > sufficient as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is > made, but if it > is > made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? > > Take care. > > Rod Alcidonis, Esq. > C. 718-704-4651 > roddj12 at hotmail.com > "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton > Houston > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "WB" > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > >> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. >> There are some letters where that may work. There are others where >> it does not. > In >> Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most > cases, >> we >> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic >> signature >> and a physical one does not need to be there. >> >> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you >> are in. >> >> I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic >> letters that do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use >> them for advertisement letters and such. We never use them for >> anything case related. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM >> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> Blindlaw listers: >> >> This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in >> my life as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. >> >> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org >> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Bryan Schulz >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM >> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> hi, >> >> are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line >> at >> different places on the pages? >> if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a >> cardboard or >> laminated guide with a l notch. >> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and >> the corner of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for >> the bottom left >> corner of your stamp. >> >> if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple >> vertically at > >> the >> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer >> so perhaps >> use a hole punch to do the same. >> >> Bryan Schulz >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rod Alcidonis" >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >> >>> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >>> >>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of >>> signing my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >>> >>> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >>> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >>> >>> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton Houston >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >>> >>>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>>> Independence Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of >>>> spending several >>>> hours >>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. >>>> Lots of sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to >>>> their assistants. I had mine made at Office Max. >>>> Hope that answers your question. >>>> >>>> Ronza >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight >>>> Time, roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>>> >>>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>>> opposing >>>> >>>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to >>>> delegate this task to an assistant? >>>> >>>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>>> >>>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>>> C. 718-704-4651 >>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>>> Hamilton >>>> Houston >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account >>>> info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. >> com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> blindlaw: >>> >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob >> al.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 >> 0ed.gov >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma >> il.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >> > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdborne%40gmail.co m From marks at accessingenuity.com Thu Oct 22 04:07:10 2009 From: marks at accessingenuity.com (Mark Stimson) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:07:10 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Contact within Lexis who knows about using assistive technology with Lexis In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002501ca52cd$2823f960$786bec20$@com> Hi Noel, I have recently spoken to someone there about screen reader access. This particular person was the contact person I was given, but she is not the most knowledgeable about the access issues. She does however know the two individuals that are employees at Lexis who are JAWS users, and are supposedly very knowledgeable. So, in a nutshell, contact the person below to get her contacts. Michele Wyllie Lexis-Nexis (415) 829-8429 Best regards, Mark Mark Stimson, Ph.D. Accessibility Specialist www.DocumentAccessibility.com www.AccessIngenuity.com -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:27 PM To: 'blindlaw at nfbnet.org' Subject: [blindlaw] Contact within Lexis who knows about using assistive technology with Lexis Blindlaw listers: The National Association of Blind Lawyers is exploring putting together a continuing legal education seminar for blind lawyers, a part of which would include using Lexis with assistive technology. Does anyone on the list have any contacts within Lexis who know about using Lexis with a screen reader or other assistive technology? If so, please send me an e-mail with the information at: noel.nightingale at ed.gov Thank you. Noel Nightingale _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marks%40accessinge nuity.com __________ NOD32 4530 (20091021) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From b75205 at gmail.com Thu Oct 22 07:29:01 2009 From: b75205 at gmail.com (James Pepper) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:29:01 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys In-Reply-To: <28DD527C94F44E68B6069F7A3094A2B7@CraigPC> References: <28DD527C94F44E68B6069F7A3094A2B7@CraigPC> Message-ID: Perhaps it is time to bring back the old signet ring where you press your ring into wax to seal a document like the romans used to do! That way you would have the mark on your person at all times. James Pepper From pattichang at att.net Thu Oct 22 12:35:24 2009 From: pattichang at att.net (Patti chang ) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:35:24 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys Message-ID: Our entire court system uses electronic signatures. Patti Gregory-Chang President, NFBI Sent from my KNFB mobile. -original message- Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys From: AZNOR99 at aol.com Date: 10/21/2009 8:04 PM By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your signature. Or anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use that too. Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling a signature which does not happen to be your own. I used my stamp for pleadings, discovery, official notification, and even before a notery public. I put the marks made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was always accepted by courts, other attorneys, etc. Ronza In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes: There's no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp. That's the reason we only used it for advertisements. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not as sufficient as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is made, but if it is made from one's signature, what's the difference between the two? Take care. Rod Alcidonis, Esq. C. 718-704-4651 roddj12 at hotmail.com "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton Houston -------------------------------------------------- From: "WB" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09 PM To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > It depends on what instrument you are affixing the signature to. There > are > some letters where that may work. There are others where it does not. In > Texas, you cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most cases, > we > are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic > signature > and a physical one does not need to be there. > > So I'm guessing this would be determined by what jurisdiction you are in. > > I would shy away from the stamp unless I'm sending out generic letters > that > do not offer specific legal advice, etc. We only use them for > advertisement > letters and such. We never use them for anything case related. > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28 PM > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > Blindlaw listers: > > This line of discussion has inspired a question that has come up in my > life > as a power of attorney for my father, who is blind. > > Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal signature? > > -----Original Message----- > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Schulz > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > hi, > > are you signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line > at > different places on the pages? > if you know the x will always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or > laminated guide with a l notch. > the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the page and the > corner > of the l notch will provide the correct x/y position for the bottom left > corner of your stamp. > > if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at > the > left end of the signature line but that may destroy your printer so > perhaps > use a hole punch to do the same. > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod Alcidonis" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys > > >> Thanks, always helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I need. >> >> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I like the idea of signing >> my name several times and choosing the best and scan it. >> >> I don't like to use the signature guide because it it is too long of a >> process when one has to sign multiple documents at once. >> >> I think I will have a stamp made for me soon! >> >> Take care >> >> >> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >> C. 718-704-4651 >> roddj12 at hotmail.com >> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton >> Houston >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys >> >>> I used a signature card/guide. You can get one from the NFB >>> Independence >>> Market for like $2. And when I got to the point of spending several >>> hours >>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made for me. Lots of >>> sighted attorneys use signature stamps and give them to their >>> assistants. I >>> had mine made at Office Max. >>> Hope that answers your question. >>> >>> Ronza >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> How do you guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients, >>> opposing >>> >>> parties, etc -- those of us who aren't able or willing to delegate >>> this >>> task to an assistant? >>> >>> I mean, signing that it actually looks somewhat legible? >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions on this topic. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq. >>> C. 718-704-4651 >>> roddj12 at hotmail.com >>> "A lawyer is either a social engineer or a parasite." - Charles >>> Hamilton >>> Houston >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. > com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/b.schulz%40sbcglob > al.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%4 > 0ed.gov > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma > il.com > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/roddj12%40hotmail. com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mruniverse08%40gma il.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Thu Oct 22 18:45:46 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:45:46 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Anyone in Houston Message-ID: <087901ca5347$dfa757b0$9ef60710$@com> Hi everyone! If there is anyone in Houston, would you please contact me off-list? I want to share some information with you. Thanks so much. William mruniverse08 at gmail.com From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 25 15:41:05 2009 From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:41:05 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty Message-ID: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury duty. I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow. I have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect. The thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve. Can someone familiar with the process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect? My current plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons in hand, but I cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk. Is there an alternate plan I should follow? I'm very ignorant about this sort of thing, and apologize. Thanks for any information. Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com Sun Oct 25 17:16:28 2009 From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:16:28 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <98025DE79C3742A9B6D325C41EBBBF81@russ> There are no blanket exclusions for anyone to serve on a jury in California. When you go through the security check at the Courthouse, ask one of the officers where you should go and someone will help you. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:41 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury duty. I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow. I have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect. The thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve. Can someone familiar with the process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect? My current plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons in hand, but I cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk. Is there an alternate plan I should follow? I'm very ignorant about this sort of thing, and apologize. Thanks for any information. Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo .com From mikefry79 at gmail.com Sun Oct 25 18:02:33 2009 From: mikefry79 at gmail.com (Michael Fry) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:02:33 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <8c58e54a0910251102x5a5d8b75kdc9c6b9046dcb8ee@mail.gmail.com> I think you have to go since I don't think having a disability is an excuse to not show up. They'll have to pick you during the voir dire process in order to actually be on a jury. On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote: > I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury duty. > I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow. I > have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my > blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect. The > thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by > sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve. Can someone familiar with the > process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect? My current > plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons in > hand, but I cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk. > Is there an alternate plan I should follow? I'm very ignorant about this > sort of thing, and apologize. > Thanks for any information. > > Mark BurningHawk > stone_troll at sbcglobal.net > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > Namaste! > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > From habnkid at aol.com Sun Oct 25 18:34:28 2009 From: habnkid at aol.com (Haben Girma) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:34:28 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? Message-ID: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> Hello Listers, I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT score is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations I requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate argument to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further complicating this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's just a 162. According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my blindness? best, Haben From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 25 18:53:31 2009 From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:53:31 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: <98025DE79C3742A9B6D325C41EBBBF81@russ> References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> <98025DE79C3742A9B6D325C41EBBBF81@russ> Message-ID: <2C44720D-40B9-4948-86C0-516D5DFDE8B3@sbcglobal.net> Yes, thank you; this is my plan, to show up with summons in hand and request whatever accommodations may be available. If I get struck, I get struck. Thanks to all who have responded to my inquiries on this matter. Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! From pattichang at att.net Sun Oct 25 19:21:04 2009 From: pattichang at att.net (Patti chang ) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:21:04 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty Message-ID: In most jurisdictions blindness is not a disqualifier. I served in IL. Patti Gregory-Chang President, NFBI Sent from my KNFB mobile. -original message- Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty From: Michael Fry Date: 10/25/2009 1:29 PM I think you have to go since I don't think having a disability is an excuse to not show up. They'll have to pick you during the voir dire process in order to actually be on a jury. On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote: > I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury duty. > I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow. I > have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my > blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect. The > thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by > sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve. Can someone familiar with the > process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect? My current > plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons in > hand, but I cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to walk. > Is there an alternate plan I should follow? I'm very ignorant about this > sort of thing, and apologize. > Thanks for any information. > > Mark BurningHawk > stone_troll at sbcglobal.net > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > Namaste! > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net From goldflash9 at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 25 19:29:52 2009 From: goldflash9 at sbcglobal.net (Sarah Clark) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:29:52 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> Message-ID: <00a701ca55a9$869e5d80$6701a8c0@computer2> Haben, For a blind student, your LSAT score is not at all low, and I think that law schools tend to compare scores of blind students to that of other blind students that have applied to/attended their school. I don't know exactly what you're referring to as a "top school." Its possible that it is too low for a top 5 school, but I don't think its too low for a top 20 school. I know of someone who recently went to UCLA with a similar score. Of course, the caliber of undergrad school you went to and your performance there also makes a difference. She had went to Stanford for undergrad and did very well there. Her name is Stephanie Enyart. I don't know where her contact info is offhand, but you can probably track her down. Maybe she's on this list? She also applied to and was accepted to other top 20 schools, so you should be able to get some good input from her on applying. She also headed a national organization for law students with disabilities, so undoubtedly she has learned even more since the time that she herself went through the application process. Good luck. Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? > Hello Listers, > > I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if it > would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT score > is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations I > requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear > that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate argument > to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further complicating > this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's just a 162. > According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a > top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. > Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took > the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those > conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? > Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my > blindness? > > best, > Haben > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/goldflash9%40sbcglobal.net From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com Sun Oct 25 19:37:43 2009 From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr.) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:37:43 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? In-Reply-To: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> Message-ID: 162 is an excellent score. However, you must be very realistic about what that score gets you today. Whether you are blind or sighted, that score will probably not get you into a top tier law school. If you received accommodations, then mentioning your visual impairment would be viewed as an excuse. It would be better to mention your blindness at some point in your personal statement, and let those who will decide on your admission know that bit of personal information about you. -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Haben Girma Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? Hello Listers, I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT score is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations I requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate argument to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further complicating this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's just a 162. According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my blindness? best, Haben _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo .com From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Sun Oct 25 20:13:01 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:13:01 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? In-Reply-To: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> Message-ID: What school are your going for? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 2:34 PM Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? > Hello Listers, > > I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if > it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT > score is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations > I requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear > that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate > argument to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further > complicating this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's > just a 162. According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to > get me into a top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are > very good. Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact > that I took the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it > based on those conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the > mainstream standard? Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score > differently due to my blindness? > > best, > Haben > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.31/2458 - Release Date: 10/25/09 08:10:00 From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Sun Oct 25 20:14:43 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:14:43 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No, but it is my understanding that most attorneys will exclude blind individuals from cases. Is this true? Any stats in that particular area? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti chang" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty > In most jurisdictions blindness is not a disqualifier. I served in IL. > > Patti Gregory-Chang > President, NFBI > Sent from my KNFB mobile. > > -original message- > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty > From: Michael Fry > Date: 10/25/2009 1:29 PM > > I think you have to go since I don't think having a disability is an > excuse > to not show up. They'll have to pick you during the voir dire process in > order to actually be on a jury. > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk > > wrote: > >> I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury >> duty. >> I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report tomorrow. >> I >> have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury because of my >> blindness, and am seeking further information about what I can expect. >> The >> thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I might earn by >> sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve. Can someone familiar with >> the >> process in Alameda County please let me know what to expect? My current >> plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning with the summons >> in >> hand, but I cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, so will have to >> walk. >> Is there an alternate plan I should follow? I'm very ignorant about >> this >> sort of thing, and apologize. >> Thanks for any information. >> >> Mark BurningHawk >> stone_troll at sbcglobal.net >> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >> Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >> Namaste! >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mikefry79%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pattichang%40att.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.31/2458 - Release Date: 10/25/09 08:10:00 From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 26 22:51:26 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:51:26 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: You can delay or postpone your summons for up to a year so if you need to delay it until you can get there you will be able to do so. Your information about blind people sitting on juries is outdated. Blind people can and do serve on juries. When I was called for jury duty I was going to be seated as an alternate on a wrongful death medical malpractice case and was dismissed not because of my being blind but because the defense attorney representing the doctor charged wanted to know the names of attorneys that I had worked for. As they were either plaintiff attorneys or criminal defense attorneys he felt that I would have a bias in favor of the plaintiff. Of course, this is the actual scenario that I expected would happen and I told this to another prospective juror that I was waiting with. I hope this still helps as I am just getting caught up on emails as I was at California NFB convention this week end. Contact me off list if you need to about this. Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal 1237 P Street Fresno ca 93721 559-266-9237 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark BurningHawk" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:41 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty >I live in the Bay area of California, and have been summoned for jury >duty. I didn't find out about this until today, and I have to report >tomorrow. I have heard that I will not be allowed to sit on a jury >because of my blindness, and am seeking further information about what I >can expect. The thing is, I really need even the small amount of money I >might earn by sitting on a jury, and am willing to serve. Can someone >familiar with the process in Alameda County please let me know what to >expect? My current plan is to show up at the court house tomorrow morning >with the summons in hand, but I cannot at this time afford a cab or bus, >so will have to walk. Is there an alternate plan I should follow? I'm >very ignorant about this sort of thing, and apologize. > Thanks for any information. > > Mark BurningHawk > stone_troll at sbcglobal.net > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > Namaste! > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 26 23:35:16 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:35:16 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? In-Reply-To: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> Message-ID: one option might be to take it again now that you are familoiar with the test. If your score is higher they will then use the higher score. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? > Hello Listers, > > I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering if it > would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my LSAT score > is not higher. Considering that I received all the accommodations I > requested and that the test pretty much went according to plan, I fear > that it might sound more like an excuse rather than a legitimate argument > to ask them to treat a blind test taker differently. Further complicating > this is the fact that my LSAT score is not very low, it's just a 162. > According to my pre-law adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a > top school. By the way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. > Would top schools look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took > the test under very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those > conditions? Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? > Would it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my > blindness? > > best, > Haben > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 27 00:08:59 2009 From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:08:59 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Well, what happened was that my name was called along with 23 others, and all 24 of us were told that the court didn't need us and we were all sent home on the first day. It was an honorable dismissal, and by that time I was just as glad to get out, having done my best to fulfill my duty. So, while it was an interesting exercise in guide- dog/GPS field mobility, no actual jury duty was done. :) Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Tue Oct 27 01:34:59 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:34:59 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <93D7B0490B524A7996D2990FD8ABD6C1@StevePC> Good job! Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark BurningHawk" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty > Well, what happened was that my name was called along with 23 others, > and all 24 of us were told that the court didn't need us and we were > all sent home on the first day. It was an honorable dismissal, and by > that time I was just as glad to get out, having done my best to > fulfill my duty. So, while it was an interesting exercise in guide- > dog/GPS field mobility, no actual jury duty was done. :) > > Mark BurningHawk > stone_troll at sbcglobal.net > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > Namaste! > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2460 - Release Date: 10/26/09 08:10:00 From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 27 02:17:23 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:17:23 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike> You won't get called again for at least the next year. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark BurningHawk" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty > Well, what happened was that my name was called along with 23 others, and > all 24 of us were told that the court didn't need us and we were all sent > home on the first day. It was an honorable dismissal, and by that time I > was just as glad to get out, having done my best to fulfill my duty. So, > while it was an interesting exercise in guide- dog/GPS field mobility, no > actual jury duty was done. :) > > Mark BurningHawk > stone_troll at sbcglobal.net > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > Namaste! > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From habnkid at aol.com Tue Oct 27 03:31:42 2009 From: habnkid at aol.com (Haben Girma) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:31:42 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? In-Reply-To: <00a701ca55a9$869e5d80$6701a8c0@computer2> References: <4AE49A34.5090407@aol.com> <00a701ca55a9$869e5d80$6701a8c0@computer2> Message-ID: <4AE6699E.5080201@aol.com> Sarah and Russell, thanks for the advice. By "top school" I mean one of the top ten, but partiuclarly I would really love to get into UC Berkeley or Stanford. I do need to be realistic, I have a better chance of getting into a top 20 school than a top 5. I appreciate getting feedback from other blind law students. Stephanie has been very helpful over the summer, I'll email her and see what she has to add. thanks, Haben On 10/25/2009 12:29 PM, Sarah Clark wrote: > Haben, > For a blind student, your LSAT score is not at all low, and I think > that law schools tend to compare scores of blind students to that of > other blind students that have applied to/attended their school. > I don't know exactly what you're referring to as a "top school." Its > possible that it is too low for a top 5 school, but I don't think its > too low for a top 20 school. I know of someone who recently went to > UCLA with a similar score. Of course, the caliber of undergrad school > you went to and your performance there also makes a difference. She > had went to Stanford for undergrad and did very well there. Her name > is Stephanie Enyart. I don't know where her contact info is offhand, > but you can probably track her down. Maybe she's on this list? She > also applied to and was accepted to other top 20 schools, so you > should be able to get some good input from her on applying. She also > headed a national organization for law students with disabilities, so > undoubtedly she has learned even more since the time that she herself > went through the application process. > Good luck. > > Sarah > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:34 AM > Subject: [blindlaw] Different LSAT standards for the blind? > > >> Hello Listers, >> >> I'm preparing applications for law school right now and am wondering >> if it would benefit me to write a paragraph or two explaining why my >> LSAT score is not higher. Considering that I received all the >> accommodations I requested and that the test pretty much went >> according to plan, I fear that it might sound more like an excuse >> rather than a legitimate argument to ask them to treat a blind test >> taker differently. Further complicating this is the fact that my LSAT >> score is not very low, it's just a 162. According to my pre-law >> adviser, though, that's too low to get me into a top school. By the >> way, my GPA and personal statements are very good. Would top schools >> look at my LSAT score in light of the fact that I took the test under >> very non-standard conditions, and judge it based on those conditions? >> Or will they judge my score based on the mainstream standard? Would >> it benefit me to ask them to judge my score differently due to my >> blindness? >> >> best, >> Haben >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/goldflash9%40sbcglobal.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/habnkid%40aol.com > From mruniverse08 at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 12:53:55 2009 From: mruniverse08 at gmail.com (WB) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:53:55 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California Message-ID: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> Folks, Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal programs/schools in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really appreciate it. Thanks! William From stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 27 14:52:07 2009 From: stone_troll at sbcglobal.net (Mark BurningHawk) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:52:07 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: <7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike> References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> <7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike> Message-ID: <2FB108FD-6132-4B3E-B4A0-B7D91D32817B@sbcglobal.net> Right on, and if I'm still living in this place in a year ... I'll just throw myself off the bridge. :) Mark BurningHawk stone_troll at sbcglobal.net Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ Namaste! From benkarpilow at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 17:32:13 2009 From: benkarpilow at gmail.com (Ben Karpilow) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:32:13 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> Message-ID: <9733773B71364F41AE30279E22A3A95F@benbpgavlhgwwr> William, I suggest you contact the Los Angeles County Bar Association and ask them about local paralegal programs. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "WB" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > Folks, > > > > Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? > > > > The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal > programs/schools > in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the > schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really > appreciate it. > > > > Thanks! > > > > William > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/benkarpilow%40gmail.com From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Tue Oct 27 17:35:07 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:35:07 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Jury duty In-Reply-To: <2FB108FD-6132-4B3E-B4A0-B7D91D32817B@sbcglobal.net> References: <9073A1A7-77C6-4179-AD0D-856D588BE5A5@sbcglobal.net> <7699E30058AA476781827F99BD116A78@spike> <2FB108FD-6132-4B3E-B4A0-B7D91D32817B@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <7D6087BE9743413EB772119C47F179C7@StevePC> You hang in there man! I'm sure something will happen for you that is good. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark BurningHawk" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Jury duty > Right on, and if I'm still living in this place in a year ... I'll > just throw myself off the bridge. :) > > Mark BurningHawk > stone_troll at sbcglobal.net > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > Namaste! > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.34/2462 - Release Date: 10/27/09 07:38:00 From rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com Tue Oct 27 23:06:50 2009 From: rjtlawfirm at yahoo.com (Russell J. Thomas, Jr) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:06:50 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California In-Reply-To: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> Message-ID: U.C. Irvine has an excellent program. A B.A. degree is a prerequisite. There are many other schools that offer such programs, ranging from the very good to the very bad. Do a Google search for Paralegal schools in Los Angeles or Orange County and see what comes up. Respectfully, Russell J. Thomas, Jr. THOMAS & ASSOCIATES www.californiaemployersattorneys.com Orange County Office 4121 Westerly Place, Suite 101 Newport Beach, California 92660 T: (949) 752-0101 F: (949) 257-4756 M: (949) 466-7238 Beverly Hills Office 9107 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 450 Beverly Hills, California 90210 T: (310) 461-3561 -----Original Message----- From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of WB Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:54 AM To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List' Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California Folks, Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal programs/schools in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really appreciate it. Thanks! William _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rjtlawfirm%40yahoo .com From benkarpilow at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 01:13:11 2009 From: benkarpilow at gmail.com (Ben Karpilow) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:13:11 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Anyone practicing workers compensation law? Message-ID: <0B6215BB22614433AF5F104E953BA24C@benbpgavlhgwwr> Hello listers, do any of you practice in the area of worker's compensation law?If so, I'd be interested in hearing about your practice techniques. Feel free to contact me off list at benkarpilow at gmail.com Thanks, Ben From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 28 04:24:34 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:24:34 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California In-Reply-To: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> Message-ID: The following resources may be of help. California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession www.caparalegal.org Paralegal Network http://www.paralegalgateway.com/ National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide network for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the paralegal profession. Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal Advanced Competency Exam www.paralegals.org Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "WB" To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > Folks, > > > > Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? > > > > The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal > programs/schools > in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the > schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would really > appreciate it. > > > > Thanks! > > > > William > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From JFreeh at nfb.org Wed Oct 28 05:00:02 2009 From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh, Jessica) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:00:02 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] National Federation of the Blind Files Complaint with United States Department of Education Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Chris Danielsen Director of Public Relations National Federation of the Blind (410) 659-9314, extension 2330 (410) 262-1281 (cell) cdanielsen at nfb.org National Federation of the Blind Files Complaint with United States Department of Education Inaccessible Web Site U.S.A. Learns Discriminates Against the Blind Baltimore, Maryland (October 27, 2009): The National Federation of the Blind (NFB), the nation's oldest and largest organization of blind people and the leading advocate for equal access by the blind to information technology, and Carlos Mora, a blind resident of Baltimore, Maryland, filed an administrative complaint today with the United States Department of Education. The complaint asserts that one of the United States Department of Education's Web sites, U.S.A Learns, violates Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act because it is inaccessible to blind people who use text-to-speech screen access technology or Braille displays to access information on the Internet. Because of the inaccessibility of the U.S.A Learns Web site, blind people cannot access or navigate through the content of the English vocabulary, spelling, and pronunciation lessons that are offered through the site. Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: "In an age where the Internet is a part of everyday life, blind people must have equal access to the information and resources provided on the World Wide Web. In particular, the United States government has a legal and moral obligation to ensure that the information it provides on the Internet is equally accessible to all in America, including the blind. It is especially ironic that the Department of Education, which is commissioned to provide educational opportunities for all, would deny blind people access to a Web site that provides instructive tools for those who speak English as a second language. This is unacceptable and we demand equal access for all blind people." Carlos Mora, a blind individual from Baltimore, Maryland, said: "I work full time and have been accepted to a master's degree program at Johns Hopkins University, and English is my second language. I attempted to use the U.S.A. Learns Web site to prepare for my everyday life and my future studies by practicing English vocabulary, spelling, and pronunciation, but the Web site was not accessible to me. It is frustrating to be denied access to any Web site, but it is especially so when I am being denied access to a Web site with educational tools that would help me to become a more active and productive member of American society." This is the third complaint filed by the National Federation of the Blind on behalf of blind people in America regarding the inaccessibility of a federal government Web site. The NFB plans to file complaints about other inaccessible federal government Web sites as the organization continues to receive multiple reports from blind people of barriers they have faced while trying to access government information, programs, and services on the Internet. Complainants are represented by attorneys Daniel F. Goldstein and Allison L. Harper of Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP, 120 E. Baltimore Street, Suite 1700, Baltimore, Maryland 21202, (410) 962-1030, fax: (410) 385-0869, dfg at browngold.com, ah at browngold.com, www.browngold.com. ### About the National Federation of the Blind With more than 50,000 members, the National Federation of the Blind is the largest and most influential membership organization of blind people in the United States. The NFB improves blind people's lives through advocacy, education, research, technology, and programs encouraging independence and self-confidence. It is the leading force in the blindness field today and the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 the NFB opened the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind. From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Wed Oct 28 16:17:09 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:17:09 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California In-Reply-To: References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> Message-ID: <84FE258DB2C94ABC9BB17D0F4F76C707@StevePC> Chuck: How much work is out there for new paralegal folks? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > The following resources may be of help. > California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide > organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession > www.caparalegal.org > Paralegal Network > http://www.paralegalgateway.com/ > National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide network > for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the > paralegal profession. Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal > Advanced Competency Exam > www.paralegals.org > Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "WB" > To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM > Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > > >> Folks, >> >> >> >> Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? >> >> >> >> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal >> programs/schools >> in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the >> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would >> really >> appreciate it. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> William >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.36/2465 - Release Date: 10/28/09 09:34:00 From ckrugman at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 28 18:18:17 2009 From: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net (ckrugman at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:18:17 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California In-Reply-To: <84FE258DB2C94ABC9BB17D0F4F76C707@StevePC> References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> <84FE258DB2C94ABC9BB17D0F4F76C707@StevePC> Message-ID: This depends on where they are. There are some markets that are flooded and with the economic conditions many law firms have had to downsize their support staffs including paralegals. In some markets there are jobs but in others there is a shortage. Many paralegals will take jobs as legal secretaries or entry level support staff to get their feet in the door. Being self-employed I work primarily for solo practioners or small firms that would not require full time paralegal services. It also depends on how creative someone can be with their skills as well as there are many nontraditional jobs where paralegal skills are useful such as public policy or legislative analysts, etc. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve P. Deeley" To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > Chuck: > > How much work is out there for new paralegal folks? > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:24 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > > >> The following resources may be of help. >> California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide >> organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession >> www.caparalegal.org >> Paralegal Network >> http://www.paralegalgateway.com/ >> National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide network >> for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the >> paralegal profession. Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal >> Advanced Competency Exam >> www.paralegals.org >> Chuck >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "WB" >> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM >> Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California >> >> >>> Folks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? >>> >>> >>> >>> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal >>> programs/schools >>> in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the >>> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would >>> really >>> appreciate it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> William >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.36/2465 - Release Date: 10/28/09 > 09:34:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net From stevep.deeley at insightbb.com Wed Oct 28 19:46:08 2009 From: stevep.deeley at insightbb.com (Steve P. Deeley) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:46:08 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California In-Reply-To: References: <048b01ca5704$91f2bad0$b5d83070$@com> <84FE258DB2C94ABC9BB17D0F4F76C707@StevePC> Message-ID: <3829F80340FB4D81971D928BE0E72BE1@StevePC> Thanks. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > This depends on where they are. There are some markets that are flooded > and > with the economic conditions many law firms have had to downsize their > support staffs including paralegals. In some markets there are jobs but in > others there is a shortage. Many paralegals will take jobs as legal > secretaries or entry level support staff to get their feet in the door. > Being self-employed I work primarily for solo practioners or small firms > that would not require full time paralegal services. > It also depends on how creative someone can be with their skills as well > as > there are many nontraditional jobs where paralegal skills are useful such > as > public policy or legislative analysts, etc. > Chuck > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve P. Deeley" > To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California > > >> Chuck: >> >> How much work is out there for new paralegal folks? >> Steve >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" >> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California >> >> >>> The following resources may be of help. >>> California Alliance of Paralegal Associations (CAPA) - Statewide >>> organization for the advancement of the paralegal profession >>> www.caparalegal.org >>> Paralegal Network >>> http://www.paralegalgateway.com/ >>> National Federation of Paralegal Associations (NFPA) - Nationwide >>> network >>> for the paralegal profession and organization for the promotion of the >>> paralegal profession. Offers on-line education and the PACE Paralegal >>> Advanced Competency Exam >>> www.paralegals.org >>> Chuck >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "WB" >>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:53 AM >>> Subject: [blindlaw] Paralegal Programs in California >>> >>> >>>> Folks, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Good morning! How is everyone's Tuesday going so far? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The reason I'm writing is to ask if there are any paralegal >>>> programs/schools >>>> in the Los Angeles area. If someone could give me the name(s) of the >>>> schools or point me in the direction to a list of programs, I would >>>> really >>>> appreciate it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> William >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> blindlaw mailing list >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> blindlaw: >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> blindlaw mailing list >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> blindlaw: >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.36/2465 - Release Date: >> 10/28/09 >> 09:34:00 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> blindlaw mailing list >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> blindlaw: >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/ckrugman%40sbcglobal.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > blindlaw mailing list > blindlaw at nfbnet.org > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > blindlaw: > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.36/2465 - Release Date: 10/28/09 09:34:00 From craig.borne at dot.gov Fri Oct 30 14:01:40 2009 From: craig.borne at dot.gov (craig.borne at dot.gov) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:01:40 -0400 Subject: [blindlaw] FW: Scholarship Opportunity for MBA program in North Carolina Message-ID: <61017FCC3706464B8ACB770A8038174E82412B@OSTMAIL03VS3.ad.dot.gov> FREE MASTERS PROGRAM AT WAKE FOREST RECEIVES POOR RESPONSE Wake Forest University has an opportunity for minority students to attend its MBA program for FREE, and so far, the response has been very poor. Please, pass along this opportunity to your friends, families, and networks to see if there is an interest. This is a great school and a tremendous opportunity to attend a top graduate school. See details below. The contact person information is: Derrick S. Boone, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Marketing Room 3139 Worrell Professional Center Babcock Graduate School of Management Wake Forest University 1834 Wake Forest Drive Winston-Salem , NC 27109-8758 email: derrick.boone at ... Website: http://mba.wfu.edu/ Phone: (336)..758.4475; Toll-free: (866) 925-3622; Fax: 336.758.4514 Message from Derrick S. Boone, Ph.D.: Greetings, I wanted to let you know about a great opportunity here at Wake Forest where you can get a FREE education and get PAID while you're doing it. Our Dean of the Schools of Business is the former CEO of PepsiCo and very committed to diversity. He's gone around to his CEO friends, who have agreed to donate a bunch of money to pay tuition and fees, provide a stipend, and a job, to diverse students. The details are below. The problem is, response to the program has been dismal! As a faculty member, I would be embarrassed for him to have to tell his CEO friends, "thanks so much for your donation, but unfortunately I have to give it back because we couldn't find Any students who wanted it." So, I need your help. Please contact me if you, or ANYONE you know is interested in the program. I want to help out as many young scholars as I can. Don't worry about whether or not you (or they) have taken the GMAT, etc. All you need to do at this point is JUST APPLY. About the Program: The Master of Art in Management program is designed specifically for liberal arts majors only. The MA degree program is a 10 month intense study of the basic functional areas of Business. After graduation and working for approximately two years, all MA graduates are eligible to apply to Wake Forest as part of the MA/MBA joint degree program and get the MBA in one year. The new Dean, Steve Reinemund, has created a new scholarship for diverse students pursuing the MA degree called the Corporate Fellowship. The Corporate Fellowship provides full tuition and a $21,000 stipend to cover living expenses. Additionally, each Corporate Fellow will participate in a practicum. The practicum has two components, educational and professional development. Each student will be assigned a mentor that is a high level executive with their sponsor corporation. The mentor will oversee an educational project covering 4 of the functional areas of business using their own corporation as the subject. The student will visit the corporation 3 - 4 times during the program to present his/her results of their research project. Additionally, the "professional development" component of the fellowship provides career coaching and leadership development for the students. The goal for the corporation is to be able to groom and hopefully, hire a top candidate from a diverse background for their organization. Of course, there is no obligation that the students accept any offer of employment. Still, the student benefits, even if they are not ultimately hired by their sponsor corporation in that they have the MA degree and the type of experience that will make them more marketable. From dandrews at visi.com Sat Oct 31 16:36:52 2009 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:36:52 -0500 Subject: [blindlaw] Social Security Told to Modernize for the Blind Message-ID: Subject: Social Security told to modernize for the blind Social Security told to modernize for the blind Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (10-20) 17:17 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- The Social Security Administration must give the nation's 3 million blind or visually impaired recipients the option of receiving benefit notices in braille or by audio computer disc, a federal judge in San Francisco said Tuesday. Ruling in a nationwide class-action suit, U.S. District Judge William Alsup said that by sending notices only by mail and phone calls, the agency is violating a law that guarantees the disabled equal access to its programs. He ordered the government to make the additional choices available by April 15. The case involves some of the 100 million notices the Social Security Administration sends each year to its 61 million beneficiaries, advising them of scheduled appointments, program changes, tax filings and possible benefit cuts. About 250,000 Americans receive benefits because of blindness, and another 2.7 million blind or sight-impaired people get Social Security for other reasons. Under rules authorized by Congress in 1988 and 1990, they can choose to be notified of agency actions by mail, with a follow-up phone call, or by certified mail with a return receipt. Those who make no choice are contacted by mail without a phone call. Alsup said the current system may have been effective 20 years ago, but no longer provides the "meaningful access" the law requires, in light of advanced technology. Little evidence was presented that blind people had lost benefits because of inadequate notice, Alsup said, but the current system is ineffective for at least some recipients. For example, he said, a blind person who needs to respond to a written notice must wait until someone is available to read it aloud, and may have problems meeting government deadlines. Alsup said the Social Security Administration refused to acknowledge that it was even covered by the anti-discrimination law until after the suit was filed in 2005, and "has been quick to find lame excuses for noncompliance." The agency must inform all blind and visually impaired recipients by Dec. 31 that they will have the choice of getting notices in braille or by Microsoft Word CD in mid-April, Alsup said. He said those who want another option, such as notification by e-mail, must be allowed to request it and show why they need it. "This is a huge benefit," said attorney Silvia Yee of the Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund in Berkeley, a lawyer for the plaintiffs. She said the ruling will allow many recipients "to have an independence in working with the (Social Security Administration) that they've never had before." Many sight-impaired recipients, particularly the young and those who become blind later in life, can't read braille, Yee said, "but for people who do read braille, it's their first choice." She said the CD option would particularly help younger recipients. Lowell Kepke, spokesman for the Social Security Administration's regional office in Richmond, said the agency "will review the order and take whatever actions are appropriate." From withat at msn.com Sat Oct 31 17:56:30 2009 From: withat at msn.com (Johnston) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:56:30 -0700 Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods Message-ID: Hello all, I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent thread. What course outlining methods have you used? This is my first year in law school, so everything is new to me. I question whether the typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. with indentations would be ideal for me. It seems like it would be hard to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like this. I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas. Thanks much. Jay in Oregon From AZNOR99 at aol.com Sat Oct 31 21:24:08 2009 From: AZNOR99 at aol.com (AZNOR99 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:24:08 EDT Subject: [blindlaw] outlining methods Message-ID: Jay, Welcome to the list. You raise an excellent point. I had the same problem trying to figure out the big picture with the outline method at first. I ultimately developed the habit of creating two outlines. The first one was a really general big picture sort - less than a page. Think of it as a sort of table of contents, if you want. I even went back and added page numbers to my other outline later. I modeled this one-pager after the course sylabus outline. I also created it near the beginning of the semester so that I had a sense of where we were headed. I've pasted portions of that one-pager at the bottom of this email for your reference. Then I would take that really general "big picture" outline and fill it in with specific cases, concepts, and exceptions. So I might include things like "definition" or a specific case name and short description under one of the subcategories. By the time the term ended, I'd have just as long an outline as everyone else, but I also had the one-pager, which was great for little cram sessions and to keep me grounded. In fact, I actually compiled all the one-pagers and used them to help me study for the bar exam. Let me know if you want me to send you other examples. Good luck, Ronza Course Title: Torts I. Intentional Torts A. Assault B. Battery C. False Imprisonment D. Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress (IIED) E. Trespass to Land ... II. Harm to Economic and Dignitary Interests A. Defamation B. Invasion of Privacy C. Misrepresentation D. Interference with Business Relations ... III. Negligence A. Prima Facia Case 1. Duty 2. Breach 3. Causation 4. Damages B. Defenses 1. Contributory Negligence 2. Comparative Negligence 3. Assumption of Risk 4. Strict Liability ... In a message dated 10/31/2009 3:22:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, withat at msn.com writes: Hello all, I am new to this list, so please pardon if this is a repeat of a recent thread. What course outlining methods have you used? This is my first year in law school, so everything is new to me. I question whether the typical method of using Roman numerals, Arabic numbers, letters, etc. with indentations would be ideal for me. It seems like it would be hard to see the big picture and to navigate the concepts in a document like this. I'm open to any/all suggestions/ideas. Thanks much. Jay in Oregon _______________________________________________ blindlaw mailing list blindlaw at nfbnet.org http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindlaw: http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/aznor99%40aol.com