[blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys

[Patti chang]

Our entire court system uses electronic signatures.

Patti Gregory-Chang
President, NFBI
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-original message-
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
From: AZNOR99 at aol.com
Date: 10/21/2009 8:04 PM

By that logic, anyone could draw an "X" and say it was your  signature.  Or 
anyone could look up your Attorney number online and use  that too.  
Forgery is forgery, whether it's the use of a stamp or scrolling  a signature 
which does not happen to be your own.  I used my stamp for  pleadings, 
discovery, official notification, and even before a notery  public.  I put the marks 
made by that stamp out as my signature, and it was  always accepted by 
courts, other attorneys, etc.

Ronza


In a message dated 10/21/2009 6:11:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mruniverse08 at gmail.com writes:

There's  no difference in the look but anybody can get hold of the stamp.
That's the  reason we only used it for advertisements.

-----Original  Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org  [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Rod Alcidonis
Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing  List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind  attorneys

There is a twist here. Willl, any reasons why a stamp is not  as sufficient 
as a signature? Granted, I do not know how the stamp is  made, but if it is 
made from one's signature, what's the difference  between the two?

Take care.

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
C.  718-704-4651
roddj12 at hotmail.com
"A lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton  
Houston

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From:  "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:09  PM
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'"  <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing Documents as  blind attorneys

> It depends on what instrument you are affixing the  signature to.  There 
> are
> some letters where that may  work.  There are others where it does not.  
In
> Texas, you  cannot use a rubber stamp on a pleading, though in most 
cases, 
>  we
> are doing electronic filing and your login code is your electronic  
> signature
> and a physical one does not need to be  there.
>
> So I'm guessing this would be determined by what  jurisdiction you are in.
>
> I would shy away from the stamp  unless I'm sending out generic letters 
> that
> do not offer  specific legal advice, etc.  We only use them for 
>  advertisement
> letters and such.  We never use them for anything  case related.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:28  PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]  Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>
> Blindlaw  listers:
>
> This line of discussion has inspired a question that  has come up in my 
> life
> as a power of attorney for my father,  who is blind.
>
> Is a rubber stamp of someone's signature a legal  signature?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:41 PM
>  To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
> hi,
>
> are you  signing/stamping your signature at the same place or is the line 
>  at
> different places on the pages?
> if you know the x will  always be at the same spot, create a cardboard or
> laminated guide with  a l notch.
> the bottom edge will line up with the bottom edge of the  page and the 
> corner
> of the l notch will provide the correct  x/y position for the bottom left
> corner of your stamp.
>
>  if you have assistance, ask the person to punch one staple vertically at 

> the
> left end of the signature line but that may destroy your  printer so 
> perhaps
> use a hole punch to do the  same.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message  -----
> From: "Rod Alcidonis" <roddj12 at hotmail.com>
> To:  "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signing  Documents as blind attorneys
>
>
>> Thanks, always  helpful Ronza. A signature stamp, then, is what I  need.
>>
>> And, thanks for all of the other suggestions. I  like the idea of signing
>> my name several times and choosing the  best and scan it.
>>
>> I don't like to use the signature  guide because it it is too long of a
>> process when one has to sign  multiple documents at once.
>>
>> I think I will have a  stamp made for me soon!
>>
>> Take  care
>>
>>
>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>> C.  718-704-4651
>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>> "A lawyer is either a  social engineer or a parasite." - Charles Hamilton
>>  Houston
>>
>>  --------------------------------------------------
>> From:  <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:42  PM
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re:  [blindlaw] Signing Documents as blind attorneys
>>
>>> I  used a signature card/guide.  You can get one from the  NFB
>>> Independence
>>> Market for like $2.  And  when I got to the point of spending  several
>>>  hours
>>> a day signing documents, I had a signature stamp made  for  me.  Lots of
>>> sighted attorneys use signature  stamps and give them to their
>>> assistants. I
>>>  had mine made at Office Max.
>>> Hope that answers your  question.
>>>
>>>  Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated  10/20/2009 6:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>  roddj12 at hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> How do  you  guys go about signing documents -- letters to clients,
>>>  opposing
>>>
>>> parties, etc --  those of us who  aren't able or willing to delegate 
>>> this
>>> task  to an assistant?
>>>
>>> I mean, signing that it  actually looks  somewhat legible?
>>>
>>> I would  appreciate any suggestions on this   topic.
>>>
>>> Take  care.
>>>
>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>>  C.  718-704-4651
>>> roddj12 at hotmail.com
>>> "A  lawyer is either a social engineer  or a parasite." - Charles  
>>> Hamilton
>>>  Houston
>>>
>>>
>>>
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