[blindlaw] Fw: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy concerning out of state services

Sat Apr 24 21:46:47 UTC 2010

What's dishonest? RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Fw: questions concerning informed choice,and DBS's 
policy concerning out of state services


> That is dishonest!
>
> Steve
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tim Shaw" <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Fw: questions concerning informed choice, and 
> DBS's
> policy concerning out of state services
>
>
>>
>> As a person working for a similar agency will telly ou they will infact
>> deny you sending you to the lousiana center unless you can come up with
>> specific reason that you need to attend that center of their own. For
>> example fi you were going to go into a specific vocational field and the
>> other center had a program geared toward it while theirs did not. That is
>> what the statement on out of state triaining is saying. If you can not
>> show that there is a training aspect that will be provided their that you
>> need that is not offered in state then they will only support the cheaper
>> in state training. My advice would be to find someone you know that lives
>> in lousiana and use their address to oopen a case there and get the
>> lousiana agency to send yu to the center. That would be much less of a
>> head ache
>>
>>> From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:52:18 -0400
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Fw: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's
>>> policy concerning out of state services
>>>
>>> Here's the attachment she sent. Its been scanned as well. I'd like your
>>> feed back. RJ
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Howard-Davis, Bobbie
>>> To: RJ Sandefur
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:51 AM
>>> Subject: RE: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy
>>> concerning out of state services
>>>
>>>
>>> Mr. Sandefur, please accept my condolence to you on the lost of your
>>> mother.
>>>
>>> If you need some adjustment to blindness training at this time, we can
>>> reopen your file and refer you the Lighthouse for the Blind of the Palm
>>> Beaches at this time for training.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am also attaching a copy the Division's policy on Informed Choice to
>>> help you in making your decision about training.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know you are aware of the DBS policy on Out-State-Services, because 
>>> you
>>> attached it to your e-mail.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In order to assist you with training services, please call our office 
>>> and
>>> ask to have your case reopen for services at 561-681-2448 or
>>> 866-225-0794.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bobbie Howard-Davis
>>>
>>> District Administrator
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> From: RJ Sandefur [mailto:joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:09 AM
>>> To: Howard-Davis, Bobbie
>>> Subject: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy
>>> concerning out of state services
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Mrs. Davis, My name is Robert Sandefur, I have some questions for
>>> you concerning my right to informed choice, and the DBS policy 
>>> concerning
>>> out of state services. In 1999, I attended the rehabilitation center,
>>> which is now the orientation and adjustment center, and did not find the
>>> experience to be a pleasant one. In 2004, I closed my case with DBS, due
>>> to a disagreement with my councilor at the time. However, due to having
>>> recently lost my mother, and other factors, I believe I am in need of
>>> some adjustment to blindness training, and this training should be
>>> conducted at the Louisiana center for the blind. (LCB) I was looking at
>>> the DBS web sight and came across the policy concerning out of state
>>> services:
>>> Out of State Services
>>> DIVISION POLICY 6.14
>>>
>>> SUBJECT
>>> Out of State Services
>>>
>>> EFFECTIVE DATE
>>> July 9, 2003
>>>
>>> REVISION DATE
>>> February 14, 2008
>>>
>>> EXPIRATION DATE
>>> This policy will be reviewed annually and updated as needed.
>>>
>>> PURPOSE
>>>
>>> To provide guidelines for the provision of out-of-state services.
>>>
>>> AUTHORITY
>>> 34 CFR 361.50(b)
>>>
>>> POLICY
>>> The Florida Division of Blind Services has established a preference for
>>> in-State services, provided that the preference does not effectively 
>>> deny
>>> an individual a necessary service. If the individual chooses an
>>> out-of-State service at a higher cost than an in-State service, and
>>> either service would meet the individual's rehabilitation needs, the
>>> designated State unit is not responsible for those costs in excess of 
>>> the
>>> cost of the in-State service. However, if the out-of-state services
>>> provides a unique service to meet the individual's rehabilitation plan,
>>> the Bureau Chief should be contacted to approve or disapproval such a
>>> service.
>>>
>>> Original signed by Michael Elliott, Bureau Chief, February 14, 2008 But
>>> compare this with a directive from RSA. policy as stated in 2001 in RSA
>>> PD-01-03:
>>>
>>>
>>> POLICY STATEMENT: The State VR program must provide applicants
>>> and individuals eligible for VR services with opportunities to
>>> exercise informed choice throughout the VR process, including making
>>> decisions about the employment goal, VR services, service providers,
>>> settings for employment and service provision, and methods for
>>> procuring services. To enable an individual to make such decisions,
>>> the State VR agency must provide information, support and assistance
>>> needed by the individual. The VR agency has the responsibility to
>>> implement policies, procedures, and practices, and to develop
>>> resources that enable applicants and individuals eligible for VR
>>> services to exercise informed choice throughout the entire VR process;
>>> these policies, procedures, and practices must be consistent with
>>> Federal statutory and regulatory requirements. Mrs. Davis, Does this
>>> mean, that DBS can tell me, "RJ, we're denying your request to attend
>>> LCB, due to causts?" I do realize I'd have to open a new case with DBS,
>>> since the previous one was closed in 2004. For your convience, I've
>>> attached a document explaining what LCB is, although I'm shure you know
>>> who they are. Mrs. Davis, This is only an inquiry, and I wish to get my
>>> facts so that I'll be able to have enough information in order to make 
>>> an
>>> informed choice as to where to go from here. I did study with a 
>>> Seminary,
>>> and obtain my master of theology, in 2006, and I was licensed by my
>>> church to preach in 2005. It was tough loosing Mom, and I know, she'd
>>> want me to continue doing what I believe the Lord has called me to do.
>>> However, How am I going to be an effective minister, if I don't have the
>>> blindness training, needed to sirvive? Another concern I have, is I have
>>> learned some ministers start out as by-vocational. In 2004, until now,
>> I didn't see that aspect of it. I have a batchors degree in criminal
>> justice. Another not so wise disision on my part. Mrs. Davis, I look
>> forward to your answer. Sencerly, Robert Sandefur
>>
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