[blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind

Tom Ladis tom at tomladis.com
Thu Aug 12 16:38:22 UTC 2010 

You are right.  I will be more careful what I bring up as a topic when I 
know what to do.

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind


> Well Tom...if you're going to let the fact that a couple people on here 
> got
> nowhere deter you from actually complaining to the webmaster....what is 
> the
> point of this conversation?  To vent?
>
> All I'm saying is at least attempt to contact the people who had no 
> problem
> with accessing the website.  You may find that you are sending the same
> emails repeatedly for no reason.  I'm just not understanding the point of
> this if you're not going to do something....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Tom Ladis
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:09 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>
> Thanks for your suggestions.  You are right that there are workarounds and
> some of the tests are presented at random.  From what I have heard in this
> discussion is that others have encountered this issue and gotten pleasant
> responses that led nowhere.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>
>
>> OK...this trail has gone on endlessly.  Has anyone tried actually calling
>> or
>> contacting support?  Maybe you should gather a group of people who could
>> call in with the same complaint.  Nitpicking it here in the group is not
>> going to accomplish anything.  Obviously some here have said they are not
>> having an issue.  Try contacting those people to get a step by step idea
>> of
>> what they are doing.  I've seen at least two people say they are not
>> having
>> or have gotten around the problem.  Have you tried that at least?  Try
>> that
>> and then come back with some sort of plan for those who wish to complain
>> to
>> Linked In and those who wish will complain.
>>
>> I know this is not my group but the same thing is being repeated 
>> endlessly
>> and it doesn't seem that you've attempted to get around the problem or
>> find
>> a solution from what others have said.
>>
>> My apologies if this has offended anyone.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Tom Ladis
>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:40 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I do not mean any offense at all, but it seems that people are willing to
>> accept things like this as ok even though they are unnecessarily
>> complicated
>>
>> and  barriers, and they add to the frustrations of using the internet 
>> when
>> blind.  If they are going to present barriers then they should have to
>> present  an easy way around the barriers for human operators but still
>> make
>> it difficult for automated systems.
>>
>> The squeaky wheel gets the grease, and if we are willing to accept these
>> things then we will be presented with more and more barriers as security
>> becomes more and more of a concern.
>>
>> Tom
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>>
>>
>>>I just listen to it a couple of times and tap the control key after
>>>getting
>>> the link.  I can usually silence window eyes.  Maybe need to repeat it a
>>> couple of times.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>>>
>>>
>>>> My problem on LinkedIn is similar to what you have set up not.  There 
>>>> is
>>>> a
>>>> jumbled string that can be read by clicking on a link, but JAWS
>>>> announces
>>>> the new window opening at the same time, which makes the reading of the
>>>> string a problem either way.
>>>>
>>>> Basically, my point is that this sets up a barrier to those who do not
>>>> know
>>>> how to work around screen readers talking at the same time or know 
>>>> about
>>>> and
>>>> using a third party tool to read the string.  In the case of Home 
>>>> Depot,
>>>> I
>>>> encountered a screen where there was no link to have the string read 
>>>> out
>>>> loud.  This is a bigger barrier.
>>>>
>>>> These barriers are going to get worse and become standard operating
>>>> procedure for web developers unless something is done to cause change 
>>>> in
>>>> this area.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tom Ladis
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:26 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The 
>>>> Blind
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, you guys are talking way over my head.  I've been following this
>>>>> discussion closely.  My credit union, there online banking services,
>>>>> use
>>>>> a
>>>>> verbal code link.  I'm able to click on a link for a verbal code and
>>>>> fill
>>>>> in
>>>>> the box.  after several discussions with them, the company running the
>>>>> online banking service was able to create this link which gives you a
>>>>> verbal
>>>>> code.  Is this the problem with LinkedIn?
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:54 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>> Blind
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do the new laws being discussed in Congress address this as an
>>>>>> accessibility
>>>>>> issue?  I went to the Home Depot website and was not able to complete
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> order after spending 30 minutes or so shopping and creating an
>>>>>> account.
>>>>>> They are also presenting some garbled text that I could not get past,
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> with a handheld CCTV.  They did not even offer a way to have the text
>>>>>> read
>>>>>> out loud.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect that this will become more and more popular among the
>>>>>> developers
>>>>>> and more and more of a problem for blind people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 2:57 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have visited sites where that form of question was used and it was
>>>>>>>totally accessible for screen reader users. There are also other 
>>>>>>>sites
>>>>>>>where the captcha code is shown and it can be selected and copied and
>>>>>>>pasted in to the form field to be entered.
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Chris Danielsen" <cdanielsen8 at aol.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:39 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Recently I heard of a company, Gogo In Flight, that solved the
>>>>>>>> inaccessible
>>>>>>>> visual captcha problem with logic questions instead of an audio
>>>>>>>> captcha.
>>>>>>>> These were very simple questions that would require a human
>>>>>>>> response,
>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>> as: If today is Tuesday, what was yesterday? Or: Of the numbers 3,
>>>>>>>> 9,
>>>>>>>> 5,
>>>>>>>> 14,
>>>>>>>> 7, which is the largest? Or: Of cow, rose, or horse, which is not 
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> animal?
>>>>>>>> Of course I guess this approach might not work for people with some
>>>>>>>> forms
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> intellectual or developmental disability. So it's possible that
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> perfect captcha solution. But that one at least addresses the
>>>>>>>> concerns
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> both blind and deaf users, or of deaf-blind ones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 8:44 PM
>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Charles and everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And what if this person is both blind and deaf? The folks who
>>>>>>>> develop
>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>> CAPTCHA solving solutions need to consider this population too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 7:17 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as long as there are alternatives to solve the captcha such as 
>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>> captcha
>>>>>>>> or use of other services such as Solona or Web Vizum they are not
>>>>>>>> breaking
>>>>>>>> the law. As blind professionals we need to look toward using
>>>>>>>> alternatives
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> solve these types of problems and the alternatives are out there 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 8:54 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Derek,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interesting that they even make it a random test.  There are other
>>>>>>>>> sites
>>>>>>>>> that do this type of thing and it is not fair appropriate for any
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> to do so.  This needs to change, for the sake of all blind people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are they breaking the law by doing this test?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Derek Wilson" <dwilson.lists at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:13 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you are wondering why sometimes LinkedIn prompts you with a
>>>>>>>>>> captcha
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> sometimes not, you may want to read on:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> QUOTE
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Security Verification Prompts
>>>>>>>>>> Why am I sometimes prompted for my password or to type in
>>>>>>>>>> characters
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> image shown on the security verification screen?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn is committed to protecting the privacy and security of
>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>> members'
>>>>>>>>>> information and maintaining the mutual trust we share with our
>>>>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As part of our proactive efforts to keep our members and 
>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>> safe
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> real and perceived threats, we vigorously monitor site activity.
>>>>>>>>>> At
>>>>>>>>>> various
>>>>>>>>>> points in the LinkedIn site, you may be prompted to re-enter your
>>>>>>>>>> password
>>>>>>>>>> or you may be asked to type in distorted letters or numbers
>>>>>>>>>> presented
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> security challenge. CAPTCHA (Completely Automated Public Turing
>>>>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>> Computers and Humans Apart) is a security method commonly used by
>>>>>>>>>> websites.
>>>>>>>>>> This feature helps to distinguish human attempts to access the
>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> automatic, computer-generated attempts to access the site, a
>>>>>>>>>> technique
>>>>>>>>>> typically used by spammers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At various times, you could experience an increase in CAPTCHA
>>>>>>>>>> prompts.
>>>>>>>>>> To
>>>>>>>>>> reduce the number of times you see the security challenge during
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> day,
>>>>>>>>>> you might consider the following actions:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   1. Enable cookies on your browser. (See your browser's help
>>>>>>>>>> section.)
>>>>>>>>>>   2. Ensure that you don't sign out each time you use LinkedIn
>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> day. We will remember your last login for a period of time which
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>>>> you to bypass the login sequence (including the CAPTCHA prompt).
>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> recommend that you sign out at the end of each day.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you have difficulty distinguishing a particular CAPTCHA image,
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> click on the "Try a different image" link. Audio CAPTCHA is also
>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>> by clicking the audio icon found on the "Security Verification"
>>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
> http://linkedin.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/linkedin.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_
>>>>>>>>>> faqid=3065
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The catch is, at least for me, that I cannot find the audio icon.
>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>> means I cannot accesss my account - even with a password.  This
>>>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> persist - especially for the totally blind - until it is 
>>>>>>>>>> addressed
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> END QUOTE
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you are on Twitter, I encourage you to pressure @LinkedIn to
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> act together. See: http://ow.ly/2lKvs & http://ow.ly/2lKxU
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Derek
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 12:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To 
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Chris and everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    Upon reading the posts about this I checked for myself and was
>>>>>>>>>> automatically logged in. Linked-In worked as it always does.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Chris Danielsen" <cdanielsen8 at aol.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:13 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To 
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if this is only a problem with new accounts or only
>>>>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>>>>> sometimes? Someone else on this list raised this issue last week
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> able to log into my own account with no problem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:34 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To 
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you hit Control to silence JAWS?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ah, the advantages of an external synth!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:09 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I received an invitation to connect to colleagues from the past
>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>> www.LinkedIn.com.  I have used LinkedIn in the past and been 
>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> around with only a few problems.  It appears that they have 
>>>>>>>>>>> added
>>>>>>>>>>> real-time verification to the login process on top of the normal
>>>>>>>>>>> username
>>>>>>>>>>> and password.  They do offer the ability to have the image that
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> present for real[-time verification, but the text is spoken at
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>> time that JAWS announces the popup window.  This seems to me to
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> barrier and was not there the last time that I logged in to my
>>>>>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone else on here use LinkedIn?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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