[blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind

ckrugman at sbcglobal.net ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
Thu Aug 12 19:30:40 UTC 2010 

I have used sites where I have notified the administrator and it has been 
resolved. Interestingly, in contacting many sites I found that the site 
administrators were not aware of the barriers that captchas presented. When 
they were made aware of it in many cases they decided not to use it. They 
were using it because they were told that they should as part of their web 
packages that were purchased by their organizations and nothing was said 
about any difficulties with it. My point about being a whiner is that we 
need to effectively pick and choose our battlefields and when we don't take 
any responsibility ourselves to try to mitigate issues it does not present 
well.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "E.J. Zufelt" <lists at zufelt.ca>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind


Good thing I'm not someone with a multiple disability, say blindness and 
cognitive or learning.  I wouldn't want to seem like a whiner.

But seriously, organizations who choose to implement CAPTCHAs need to 
provide options for individuals who are not able to solve the CAPTCHA with a 
reasonable degree of ease.

In the Drupal community CAPTCHAs are used on the groups pages for submitting 
posts (http://groups.drupal.org).  The community has a policy on CAPTCHAs

• We use a form of spam protection called Mollom - you should be aware of 
their Terms of service. If you are visually impaired please contact the site 
maintainers and we will change your account so you don't have to interact 
with Mollom.

This is not a perfect solution, the policy is on a page that is not 
particularly easy to find, and it could be better worded.  But, we are 
moving in the correct direction.  The reasoning for using a CAPTCHA is that 
if a user is subscribed to a group the new messages and comments are sent to 
their e-mail inbox immediately.  This means that any SPAM that gets through 
to the site is sent out to many users, even if it is later identified and 
removed from the site.

HTH,

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On 2010-08-12, at 10:11 AM, <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Its much better to pick and choose worthwhile battles rather than 
> insulting ourselves as blind people by making ourselves appear to be 
> helpless and incompetent. Its for us as a community to deal with real 
> issues and stop whining.
> chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I do not mean any offense at all, but it seems that people are willing to 
>> accept things like this as ok even though they are unnecessarily 
>> complicated and  barriers, and they add to the frustrations of using the 
>> internet when blind.  If they are going to present barriers then they 
>> should have to present  an easy way around the barriers for human 
>> operators but still make it difficult for automated systems.
>>
>> The squeaky wheel gets the grease, and if we are willing to accept these 
>> things then we will be presented with more and more barriers as security 
>> becomes more and more of a concern.
>>
>> Tom
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve P. Deeley" 
>> <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>>
>>
>>> I just listen to it a couple of times and tap the control key after 
>>> getting
>>> the link.  I can usually silence window eyes.  Maybe need to repeat it a
>>> couple of times.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>>>
>>>
>>>> My problem on LinkedIn is similar to what you have set up not.  There 
>>>> is a
>>>> jumbled string that can be read by clicking on a link, but JAWS 
>>>> announces
>>>> the new window opening at the same time, which makes the reading of the
>>>> string a problem either way.
>>>>
>>>> Basically, my point is that this sets up a barrier to those who do not
>>>> know
>>>> how to work around screen readers talking at the same time or know 
>>>> about
>>>> and
>>>> using a third party tool to read the string.  In the case of Home 
>>>> Depot, I
>>>> encountered a screen where there was no link to have the string read 
>>>> out
>>>> loud.  This is a bigger barrier.
>>>>
>>>> These barriers are going to get worse and become standard operating
>>>> procedure for web developers unless something is done to cause change 
>>>> in
>>>> this area.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tom Ladis
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve P. Deeley" 
>>>> <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:26 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The 
>>>> Blind
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, you guys are talking way over my head.  I've been following this
>>>>> discussion closely.  My credit union, there online banking services, 
>>>>> use
>>>>> a
>>>>> verbal code link.  I'm able to click on a link for a verbal code and 
>>>>> fill
>>>>> in
>>>>> the box.  after several discussions with them, the company running the
>>>>> online banking service was able to create this link which gives you a
>>>>> verbal
>>>>> code.  Is this the problem with LinkedIn?
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:54 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The 
>>>>> Blind
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do the new laws being discussed in Congress address this as an
>>>>>> accessibility
>>>>>> issue?  I went to the Home Depot website and was not able to complete 
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> order after spending 30 minutes or so shopping and creating an 
>>>>>> account.
>>>>>> They are also presenting some garbled text that I could not get past,
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> with a handheld CCTV.  They did not even offer a way to have the text
>>>>>> read
>>>>>> out loud.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect that this will become more and more popular among the
>>>>>> developers
>>>>>> and more and more of a problem for blind people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 2:57 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The 
>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have visited sites where that form of question was used and it was
>>>>>>> totally accessible for screen reader users. There are also other 
>>>>>>> sites
>>>>>>> where the captcha code is shown and it can be selected and copied 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> pasted in to the form field to be entered.
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Danielsen" 
>>>>>>> <cdanielsen8 at aol.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:39 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Recently I heard of a company, Gogo In Flight, that solved the
>>>>>>>> inaccessible
>>>>>>>> visual captcha problem with logic questions instead of an audio
>>>>>>>> captcha.
>>>>>>>> These were very simple questions that would require a human 
>>>>>>>> response,
>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>> as: If today is Tuesday, what was yesterday? Or: Of the numbers 3, 
>>>>>>>> 9,
>>>>>>>> 5,
>>>>>>>> 14,
>>>>>>>> 7, which is the largest? Or: Of cow, rose, or horse, which is not 
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> animal?
>>>>>>>> Of course I guess this approach might not work for people with some
>>>>>>>> forms
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> intellectual or developmental disability. So it's possible that 
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> perfect captcha solution. But that one at least addresses the 
>>>>>>>> concerns
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> both blind and deaf users, or of deaf-blind ones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 8:44 PM
>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Charles and everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And what if this person is both blind and deaf? The folks who 
>>>>>>>> develop
>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>> CAPTCHA solving solutions need to consider this population too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 7:17 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as long as there are alternatives to solve the captcha such as 
>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>> captcha
>>>>>>>> or use of other services such as Solona or Web Vizum they are not
>>>>>>>> breaking
>>>>>>>> the law. As blind professionals we need to look toward using
>>>>>>>> alternatives
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> solve these types of problems and the alternatives are out there 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 8:54 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Derek,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interesting that they even make it a random test.  There are other
>>>>>>>>> sites
>>>>>>>>> that do this type of thing and it is not fair appropriate for any 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> to do so.  This needs to change, for the sake of all blind people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are they breaking the law by doing this test?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Wilson" 
>>>>>>>>> <dwilson.lists at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:13 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you are wondering why sometimes LinkedIn prompts you with a
>>>>>>>>>> captcha
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> sometimes not, you may want to read on:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> QUOTE
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Security Verification Prompts
>>>>>>>>>> Why am I sometimes prompted for my password or to type in 
>>>>>>>>>> characters
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> image shown on the security verification screen?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn is committed to protecting the privacy and security of 
>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>> members'
>>>>>>>>>> information and maintaining the mutual trust we share with our
>>>>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As part of our proactive efforts to keep our members and 
>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>> safe
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> real and perceived threats, we vigorously monitor site activity. 
>>>>>>>>>> At
>>>>>>>>>> various
>>>>>>>>>> points in the LinkedIn site, you may be prompted to re-enter your
>>>>>>>>>> password
>>>>>>>>>> or you may be asked to type in distorted letters or numbers
>>>>>>>>>> presented
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> security challenge. CAPTCHA (Completely Automated Public Turing 
>>>>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>> Computers and Humans Apart) is a security method commonly used by
>>>>>>>>>> websites.
>>>>>>>>>> This feature helps to distinguish human attempts to access the 
>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> automatic, computer-generated attempts to access the site, a
>>>>>>>>>> technique
>>>>>>>>>> typically used by spammers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At various times, you could experience an increase in CAPTCHA
>>>>>>>>>> prompts.
>>>>>>>>>> To
>>>>>>>>>> reduce the number of times you see the security challenge during 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> day,
>>>>>>>>>> you might consider the following actions:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  1. Enable cookies on your browser. (See your browser's help
>>>>>>>>>> section.)
>>>>>>>>>>  2. Ensure that you don't sign out each time you use LinkedIn
>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> day. We will remember your last login for a period of time which
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>>>> you to bypass the login sequence (including the CAPTCHA prompt). 
>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> recommend that you sign out at the end of each day.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you have difficulty distinguishing a particular CAPTCHA image,
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> click on the "Try a different image" link. Audio CAPTCHA is also
>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>> by clicking the audio icon found on the "Security Verification"
>>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://linkedin.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/linkedin.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_
>>>>>>>>>> faqid=3065
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The catch is, at least for me, that I cannot find the audio icon.
>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>> means I cannot accesss my account - even with a password.  This
>>>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> persist - especially for the totally blind - until it is 
>>>>>>>>>> addressed
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> END QUOTE
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you are on Twitter, I encourage you to pressure @LinkedIn to 
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> act together. See: http://ow.ly/2lKvs & http://ow.ly/2lKxU
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Derek
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 12:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To 
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Chris and everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Upon reading the posts about this I checked for myself and was
>>>>>>>>>> automatically logged in. Linked-In worked as it always does.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Chris Danielsen" <cdanielsen8 at aol.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:13 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To 
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if this is only a problem with new accounts or only 
>>>>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>>>>> sometimes? Someone else on this list raised this issue last week 
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> able to log into my own account with no problem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:34 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To 
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you hit Control to silence JAWS?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ah, the advantages of an external synth!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:09 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The 
>>>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I received an invitation to connect to colleagues from the past
>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>> www.LinkedIn.com.  I have used LinkedIn in the past and been 
>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> around with only a few problems.  It appears that they have 
>>>>>>>>>>> added
>>>>>>>>>>> real-time verification to the login process on top of the normal
>>>>>>>>>>> username
>>>>>>>>>>> and password.  They do offer the ability to have the image that
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> present for real[-time verification, but the text is spoken at 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>> time that JAWS announces the popup window.  This seems to me to 
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> barrier and was not there the last time that I logged in to my
>>>>>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone else on here use LinkedIn?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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