[blindlaw] touch screen credit terminals at C&K market

Hyde, David W. (ESC) david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us
Wed Jul 28 18:20:15 UTC 2010


That also is good. The president there is Art Stevens in Salem.

 

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Perhaps this is something that should be referred to the NFB affiliate in Oregon to be addressed on a statewide basis.
Chuck
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> Not being an attorney, but having an interest as do you, I would point 
> out these things. Recently, there was a settlement with Target 
> relating to their website, requiring accessibility. It was in the 
> Ninth Circuit, so in your area. It is, of course, as far as I know, 
> not precedent setting. A second citation would be the settlement with 
> K Mart, putting accessible point of sale devices in their stores. 
> Again, not a precedent, but indicative. As David pointed out, there 
> have not been amendments to the ADA. In Oregon, I might talk to the 
> folks at the Oregon Disabilities Commission, the Department of Labor 
> Civil Rights Division, and for legal referrals, the Oregon Bar 
> Association. If Bennett Prows is looking at this list, he may have some contacts in the Oregon Bar Association.
>
> Finally, I would say that if you are the only one complaining to the 
> store about its terminals, you are easily ignored. If there is a group 
> of people raising the issue, then they will realize that it is not 
> just one malcontent causing problems. We all know how frustrating such 
> situations are, and I do not minimize your problem. Remember Arlow 
> Guthrie, who said that if you have fifty people a day... They may think it's a movement.
>
>
>
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> On Behalf Of David Andrews
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:19 PM
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>
> It sounds like, to me, the guy is mixing apples and oranges, the ADA 
> with Section 508.  Section 508, covers Federal purchases, and in many 
> ways is more strict then the ADA, especially with web.  He would be 
> covered by the ADA and ultimately he will have to have some sort of 
> accessible system in place.
>
> Dave
>
> At 02:28 PM 7/27/2010, you wrote:
>>Craig:
>>
>>What the legal rep told me was that there were different "levels," of 
>>coverage, and that the guidelines for federal facilities were more 
>>strict than those for private businesses, regarding accessible credit 
>>card terminals.  What I'd like would be an E-mail that I could forward 
>>to this guy John Christianson at C&K Market explaining why they need 
>>to replace their touch screen terminals with accessible ones--I don't 
>>feel that I could do that in the case of your mail. :)  I need 
>>something concrete that I can point to disputing his claim that the 
>>ADA's guidelines allow the use of the touch-screens, or do not mandate 
>>their replacement.
>>
>>Mark BurningHawk
>>Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>>Home:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>Namaste!
>
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