[blindlaw] touch screen credit terminals at C&K market
Hyde, David W. (ESC)
david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us
Wed Jul 28 18:20:15 UTC 2010
That also is good. The president there is Art Stevens in Salem.
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Perhaps this is something that should be referred to the NFB affiliate in Oregon to be addressed on a statewide basis.
Chuck
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> Not being an attorney, but having an interest as do you, I would point
> out these things. Recently, there was a settlement with Target
> relating to their website, requiring accessibility. It was in the
> Ninth Circuit, so in your area. It is, of course, as far as I know,
> not precedent setting. A second citation would be the settlement with
> K Mart, putting accessible point of sale devices in their stores.
> Again, not a precedent, but indicative. As David pointed out, there
> have not been amendments to the ADA. In Oregon, I might talk to the
> folks at the Oregon Disabilities Commission, the Department of Labor
> Civil Rights Division, and for legal referrals, the Oregon Bar
> Association. If Bennett Prows is looking at this list, he may have some contacts in the Oregon Bar Association.
>
> Finally, I would say that if you are the only one complaining to the
> store about its terminals, you are easily ignored. If there is a group
> of people raising the issue, then they will realize that it is not
> just one malcontent causing problems. We all know how frustrating such
> situations are, and I do not minimize your problem. Remember Arlow
> Guthrie, who said that if you have fifty people a day... They may think it's a movement.
>
>
>
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> On Behalf Of David Andrews
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>
> It sounds like, to me, the guy is mixing apples and oranges, the ADA
> with Section 508. Section 508, covers Federal purchases, and in many
> ways is more strict then the ADA, especially with web. He would be
> covered by the ADA and ultimately he will have to have some sort of
> accessible system in place.
>
> Dave
>
> At 02:28 PM 7/27/2010, you wrote:
>>Craig:
>>
>>What the legal rep told me was that there were different "levels," of
>>coverage, and that the guidelines for federal facilities were more
>>strict than those for private businesses, regarding accessible credit
>>card terminals. What I'd like would be an E-mail that I could forward
>>to this guy John Christianson at C&K Market explaining why they need
>>to replace their touch screen terminals with accessible ones--I don't
>>feel that I could do that in the case of your mail. :) I need
>>something concrete that I can point to disputing his claim that the
>>ADA's guidelines allow the use of the touch-screens, or do not mandate
>>their replacement.
>>
>>Mark BurningHawk
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>>Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>Namaste!
>
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