[blindlaw] blind attorneys

Sat Nov 20 21:24:16 UTC 2010

Hello Aser,
Congratulations!  I assume you are still on cloud nine today.  Where in 
California are you located?  I look forward to hearing from you.
All the best,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aser Tolentino" <agtolentino at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blind attorneys

>I guess you can count me among the unemployed blind attorneys now, as I
> learned last night that I passed the CA bar. Regardless of disability 
> though
> many in my class have found it difficult to find work.
>
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:56 PM, James Weisberg <jimi-law at dc.rr.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> My experience is similar Noel.  My point:  numerically speaking the 
>> effort
>> of the credentials are not worth the "chance" you will be one of the
>> "lucky"
>> one's to get a job offer.  Congrats on making it into the public sector 
>> as
>> I
>> believe that is the place for those such as us with vision problems and 
>> law
>> degrees.  I am currently in the process of waiting for a job interview 
>> with
>> the Fed myself!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
>> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 1:28 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blind attorneys
>>
>> James:
>>
>> I have lost track of your original point.   I hope this response is on
>> target.
>>
>> I was blind during law school, worked as a summer associate for a
>> nationally-known firm, and received a job offer as a result of my work
>> during that summer.  I was employed by that firm for over five years.  I
>> now
>> practice for the federal government.
>>
>> I know of others as well who were blind before law school who got jobs at
>> private firms.
>>
>> I also know that tremendous discrimination occurs but my own experience
>> tells me that it is entirely possible for a blind person to receive 
>> offers
>> of employment to practice in the private sector.
>>
>> Noel Nightingale
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of James Weisberg
>> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:48 AM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blind attorneys
>>
>> I have to distinguish, I'm getting back to Dave's comments below again 
>> now,
>> between employed blind lawyers who lost sight AFTER they had been 
>> employed
>> and developed a rep before going blind as being competent from those who
>> are
>> blind and thus never given the opportunity to develop such a rep unless
>> they
>> can do it on their own as I have.  I just don't count blind lawyers in my
>> calculation if they lost their sight after they were established because 
>> my
>> point is NOT whether or not a blind person can do the work, I know as I
>> have
>> been doing it for over ten years now.  My point is the effort for the
>> credentials compared with the likelihood of a job offer means go for
>> something else . . . that's all.  So I too would love the numbers on 
>> blind
>> lawyers never offered employment compared against employed blind lawyers
>> who
>> were blind prior to ever practicing!!  I'm betting close to 
>> "astronomical."
>> *smile*
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of mfhurley at optonline.net
>> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:29 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blind attorneys
>>
>> Prospects for blind lawyers were not good in a great ecomony.  I agree 
>> with
>> Dennis' post wholeheartedly.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Andrews
>> Date: Friday, November 19, 2010 5:26 am
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blind attorneys
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>
>> > James:
>> >
>> > I would like to suggest that the unemployment rate for blind
>> > persons
>> > in most all, if not all fields of endeavor is low. While my
>> > evidence
>> > is anecdotal, I don't think that it is necessarily any worse for
>> > blind lawyers. Over the years I have known a bunch of blind
>> > lawyers,
>> > who are working.
>> >
>> > From what I read, the prospect for all lawyers isn't that good
>> > right
>> > now, so it is hard to separate the blindness penalty from the
>> > bad
>> > economy penalty.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > At 05:55 PM 11/18/2010, you wrote:
>> > >Based upon my experience, Berkeley grad, top tier law grad,
>> > ZERO job offers
>> > >despite NEVER not getting an interview, combined with the
>> > extremely low
>> > >numbers of blind attorneys I can't think of what there might be
>> > to discuss.
>> > >My advice to anyone with vision issues considering law as a
>> > career is to not
>> > >waste their time or money they have a greater chance statistically,
>> > >probably, of getting hit by lightening on the way to law class
>> > than ever
>> > >getting an offer of employment. Now if you come from money, forget
>> > >everything I have said and just open your own firm! THAT IS
>> > THE WAY IT IS!
>> > >But there are always EXCEPTIONS. I personally wouldn't want to
>> > invest the
>> > >time and money law school requires on the hopes I'll be an exception.
>> >
>> >
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