[blindlaw] blind attorneys

Sun Nov 21 16:46:30 UTC 2010

Congratulations, Aser!.(on the Bar of course, not the unemployment ;)

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Aser Tolentino <agtolentino at gmail.com>wrote:

> I guess you can count me among the unemployed blind attorneys now, as I
> learned last night that I passed the CA bar. Regardless of disability
> though
> many in my class have found it difficult to find work.
>
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:56 PM, James Weisberg <jimi-law at dc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> > My experience is similar Noel.  My point:  numerically speaking the
> effort
> > of the credentials are not worth the "chance" you will be one of the
> > "lucky"
> > one's to get a job offer.  Congrats on making it into the public sector
> as
> > I
> > believe that is the place for those such as us with vision problems and
> law
> > degrees.  I am currently in the process of waiting for a job interview
> with
> > the Fed myself!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
> > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 1:28 PM
> > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blind attorneys
> >
> > James:
> >
> > I have lost track of your original point.   I hope this response is on
> > target.
> >
> > I was blind during law school, worked as a summer associate for a
> > nationally-known firm, and received a job offer as a result of my work
> > during that summer.  I was employed by that firm for over five years.  I
> > now
> > practice for the federal government.
> >
> > I know of others as well who were blind before law school who got jobs at
> > private firms.
> >
> > I also know that tremendous discrimination occurs but my own experience
> > tells me that it is entirely possible for a blind person to receive
> offers
> > of employment to practice in the private sector.
> >
> > Noel Nightingale
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of James Weisberg
> > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:48 AM
> > To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blind attorneys
> >
> > I have to distinguish, I'm getting back to Dave's comments below again
> now,
> > between employed blind lawyers who lost sight AFTER they had been
> employed
> > and developed a rep before going blind as being competent from those who
> > are
> > blind and thus never given the opportunity to develop such a rep unless
> > they
> > can do it on their own as I have.  I just don't count blind lawyers in my
> > calculation if they lost their sight after they were established because
> my
> > point is NOT whether or not a blind person can do the work, I know as I
> > have
> > been doing it for over ten years now.  My point is the effort for the
> > credentials compared with the likelihood of a job offer means go for
> > something else . . . that's all.  So I too would love the numbers on
> blind
> > lawyers never offered employment compared against employed blind lawyers
> > who
> > were blind prior to ever practicing!!  I'm betting close to
> "astronomical."
> > *smile*
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of mfhurley at optonline.net
> > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:29 AM
> > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blind attorneys
> >
> > Prospects for blind lawyers were not good in a great ecomony.  I agree
> with
> > Dennis' post wholeheartedly.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Andrews
> > Date: Friday, November 19, 2010 5:26 am
> > Subject: Re: [blindlaw] blind attorneys
> > To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> >
> > > James:
> > >
> > > I would like to suggest that the unemployment rate for blind
> > > persons
> > > in most all, if not all fields of endeavor is low. While my
> > > evidence
> > > is anecdotal, I don't think that it is necessarily any worse for
> > > blind lawyers. Over the years I have known a bunch of blind
> > > lawyers,
> > > who are working.
> > >
> > > From what I read, the prospect for all lawyers isn't that good
> > > right
> > > now, so it is hard to separate the blindness penalty from the
> > > bad
> > > economy penalty.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > At 05:55 PM 11/18/2010, you wrote:
> > > >Based upon my experience, Berkeley grad, top tier law grad,
> > > ZERO job offers
> > > >despite NEVER not getting an interview, combined with the
> > > extremely low
> > > >numbers of blind attorneys I can't think of what there might be
> > > to discuss.
> > > >My advice to anyone with vision issues considering law as a
> > > career is to not
> > > >waste their time or money they have a greater chance statistically,
> > > >probably, of getting hit by lightening on the way to law class
> > > than ever
> > > >getting an offer of employment. Now if you come from money, forget
> > > >everything I have said and just open your own firm! THAT IS
> > > THE WAY IT IS!
> > > >But there are always EXCEPTIONS. I personally wouldn't want to
> > > invest the
> > > >time and money law school requires on the hopes I'll be an exception.
> > >
> > >
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