[blindlaw] LSAT and law school information

Tue Nov 23 22:59:03 UTC 2010

Hi Susan,
I agree that this is a good idea for the reasons you stated, particularly if 
one has chosen not to attend a top 10 or 20 law school.  The trick for all 
law students is getting a summer internship during law school so as to 
secure a permanent job offer.  As a result, it is important to be at a law 
school where the firms in your chosen geographic area come to do interviews. 
Did you go to law school in Arizona?
All the best,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Kelly" <Susan.Kelly at pima.gov>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT and law school information

> At least when I went, another suggestion was to pick a school (or
> schools) in the general geographic area one thought he or she might want
> to set up practice - for example, given the differences in family law
> and water law provisions here in Arizona, it was though to be wiser to
> attend a school in this area of the country so that a person could get
> more exposure to those unique laws.  Just a thought, though.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of John Ramsey
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 November, 2010 10:02 AM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT and law school information
>
> One of the most looked at factors is the school's bar passage rate for
> first
> time takers.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Blaine Deutscher
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:56 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT and law school information
>
> when looking at a high ranked law school what are some things that
> you're
> looking at?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT and law school information
>
>
> Hello Blain,
> Where did you get the information that the parents of Harvard Law School
> students are paying for their educations any more than is true at all
> other
> law schools?  I sincerely doubt it.  When I looked recently, I was
> astonished to see that the highest ranked law schools and those toward
> the
> bottom of the rankings cost very close to the same.  The rankings I was
> referring to would be the U.S. News rankings.  My claim is that it is
> much
> easier to get a job as a lawyer when you go to a highly ranked law
> school,
> and I think this can be confirmed.  This concern is more true today,
> then
> when I attended law school 20 years ago given the current high attorney
> unemployment.  The advice I was given when I was applying to law school
> was
> to go to the one which admitted me that had the highest ranking.  That
> worked out well for me and this is the same advice I would give today to
> my
> spouse, children and friends.  My view is that law school is an
> investment
> like any other, and it seems sensible to me to invest in the entity
> which is
> most likely to give me the highest return on my investment, even though
> we
> can never know for sure about any investment in advance.  Finally, I was
> not
> intending to insult any law schools in Texas by only citing the
> University
> of Texas at Austin.  It has had a sterling reputation for at least the
> last
> 75 years, and when I last looked at the rankings I think it was in the
> top
> 10, and Sarah mentioned that she wanted to stay in Texas and that is the
> only reason I brought it up.  I know there are many views on the topic
> of
> law school rankings, and I would enjoy hearing your thoughts.  I look
> forward to hearing from you.
> Warmest regards,
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Blaine Deutscher" <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT and law school information
>
>
>> when we talk about the top law schools in the state what are you going
> by?
>> Harvard is a good law school but most of the people that go there have
>> their
>> parents paying for them to go.  I might go to a Law school that
> doesn't
>> have
>> the money but graduation and employment might be really popular and
> the
>> law
>> school is recognized for graduating wonderful Lawyers.
>> Blaine
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT and law school information
>>
>>
>> Hello Sarah,
>> My background and advice is similar to Daniels.  I graduated from law
>> school
>> in 1991.  Five law schools does seem like a small number of schools to
> me.
>> It is very difficult to predict where one will be admitted.  When I
>> applied
>> I was rejected by some schools where I thought I would be instantly
>> admitted
>> and I got into others which were a definite long shot.  As I look back
> I
>> can
>> say that my admissions and rejections were a mystery and definitely
>> unpredictable.  The University of Texas law school in Austin is one of
> the
>> top law schools in the country, and as such almost impossible to get
> in to
>> as a matter of statistics.  That does not mean you  won't, you will
> just
>> need high grades, a great LSAT score, and outstanding recommendations.
> My
>> advice is that you not set an arbitrary deadline as to when you must
>> apply.
>> Instead get all your ducks in a row first, making sure that they are
> the
>> best looking and most desirable ducks you can corral.  Once you have
> done
>> this you will greatly optimize your number of successful applications
> and
>> you will then be able to choose the school and financial aid package
> that
>> best fits your circumstances and goals.  Please feel free to contact
> me
>> off
>> list if I can help.
>> All the best,
>> Dennis
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Frye, Daniel" <Daniel.Frye at ed.gov>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT and law school information
>>
>>
>> Sarah:
>>
>> I will leave some of your questions unanswered, deferring to those who
>> have
>> more recent experience than I about the LSAT. I graduated law school
> in
>> 1993, some seventeen years ago now. The testing procedures are
> different
>> now, and I know that considerable litigation and advocacy around
> equitable
>> testing practices are regularly a topic of conversation here. But I
> can
>> tell
>> you these things:
>>
>> Applying to five law schools, as a rule, sounds like an arbitrary
> number.
>> I
>> don't know that it matters how many schools you submit applications
> to, so
>> long as you submit enough to a diverse range of schools, giving you
>> potential choices and allowing for some disappointed ambitions.
> Finally,
>> only you can know whether incurring tuition costs is something you're
>> prepared to handle. If this is a principal consideration for you, I
> guess
>> the simple answer is yes, apply in Texas, where cost is less of a
> factor.
>> If
>> you believe you can get scholarships, or if you have no objection to
>> incurring student loans as an investment in your future, apply
> elsewhere.
>> Texas has a variety of reputable, ABA accredited law schools, but
> better
>> ones exist throughout the country. If you are this uncertain about
> whether
>> law school is something you are interested in, an inference I draw
> based
>> on
>> your inquiry about finances, seriously evaluate your career objectives
> in
>> general before embarking on this expensive, time-consuming, but
>> potentially
>> rewarding journey.
>>
>> Be well.
>>
>>
>> Daniel B. Frye, J.D.
>> Management and Program Specialist
>> Randolph-Sheppard Programs
>> U.S. Department of Education
>> Office of Special Education
>> and Rehabilitative Services
>> Rehabilitation Services Administration
>> 550 12th Street, SW, Room 5023
>> Washington, DC 20202-2800
>> (202) 245-7308 office
>> (202) 245-7591 fax
>> (410) 241-7006 mobile
>> daniel.frye at ed.gov
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
>> Behalf Of Sarah
>> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 5:46 PM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [blindlaw] LSAT and law school information
>>
>> Hello. I am a pre-law major. I am planning to take the LSAT's next
> June. I
>> am totally blind.   Is the information to study for the LSAT's
> available
>> in
>> an accessible format? What accommodations are available when taking
> the
>> test?
>>    My pre-law advisor suggested I apply to five law schools. is this
>> information correct? I live in Texas, and there is a tuition and fees
>> waiver
>> for blind students. Should I just apply to law schools in Texas so I
> will
>> not have to pay tuition and fees? Feel free to email me off list.
> Thank
>> you.
>>    Sarah
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